The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.
Frank Zappa
30th April 2025 23:51
Raskolnikov
Re: The Great Quotes thread
"Freedom suppressed and again regained bites with keener fangs than freedom never endangered."
Cicero
"The only proper, moral purpose of a government is to protect man's rights, which means: to protect him from physical violence - to protect his right to his own life, to his own liberty, to his own property and to the pursuit of his own happiness. Without property rights, no other rights are possible."
Ayn Rand
1st May 2025 12:14
Bill Ryan
Re: The Great Quotes thread
What we know is not much. What we do not know is immense.
The last dying words of Pierre-Simon Laplace (1749—1827), mathematician and astronomer, one of the greatest minds of his era.
3rd May 2025 20:45
rgray222
Re: The Great Quotes thread
I am not a big advocate for anything that alters the mind (mostly because it can be done naturally) but some psychedelic plants and mushrooms certainly offer an avenue to expand your thinking.
Terence McKenna aka Timothy Leary
McKenna's work included several books and lectures, and he was particularly noted for his theories and ideas, such as the "Stoned Ape Theory," which suggests that psilocybin mushrooms played a role in the evolutionary leap from primate to human.
Terence Kemp McKenna (November 16, 1946 – April 3, 2000) was an American ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer, and author. He was known for his advocacy of the responsible use of naturally occurring psychedelic plants and his exploration of topics such as psychedelic drugs, plant-based entheogens, shamanism, metaphysics, alchemy, language, philosophy, culture, technology, environmentalism, and the theoretical origins of human consciousness. McKenna was often referred to as the "Timothy Leary of the '90s," "one of the leading authorities on the ontological foundations of shamanism," and the "intellectual voice of rave culture." He was born and raised in Paonia, Colorado, and later studied ethnobotany at the University of California, Berkeley. McKenna was also known for his knowledge of the use of psychedelics and his influential role in bringing psychoactive plants into the public consciousness of Western civilization.
4th May 2025 10:31
Paul D.
Re: The Great Quotes thread
"Terence McKenna aka Timothy Leary"
I think I know what you mean...I think you might mean "Leary of the 90's ". But Terence Mckenna is one of the greats in my eyes & ears, best speaker & actual voice :) I've ever heard. So I have to clarify, he was not " also known as Timothy Leary".They were two very distinct people.
Both were advocates of psychedelics, one in the 60's, one the 90's, so they had that in common, but Mckenna had serious doubts about L.S.D. , which Leary championed. He was far more in favour of Psylocibin mushrooms.
Also, for me, Mckenna was in another league all together. A great, thinker, experiencer/ psychonaut & beautiful soul to be frank. Something I personally can't say about Leary.
I love Mckenna, I don't agree with much he said. But I can listen to him saying it all day :)
5th May 2025 18:59
rgray222
Re: The Great Quotes thread
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Posted by Paul D.
"Terence McKenna aka Timothy Leary"
I think I know what you mean...I think you might mean "Leary of the 90's ". But Terence Mckenna is one of the greats in my eyes & ears, best speaker & actual voice :) I've ever heard. So I have to clarify, he was not " also known as Timothy Leary".They were two very distinct people.
Both were advocates of psychedelics, one in the 60's, one the 90's, so they had that in common, but Mckenna had serious doubts about L.S.D. , which Leary championed. He was far more in favour of Psylocibin mushrooms.
Also, for me, Mckenna was in another league all together. A great, thinker, experiencer/ psychonaut & beautiful soul to be frank. Something I personally can't say about Leary.
I love Mckenna, I don't agree with much he said. But I can listen to him saying it all day :)
Wouldn't doubt it. Seemed a common sentiment among the founders some 50 years earlier:
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” Benjamin Franklin
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the people discover they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy--to be followed by a dictatorship.”
Alexander Fraser Tytler Woodhouselee
9th May 2025 13:44
Tintin
Re: The Great Quotes thread
Take note my friends, even when all may seem insurmountable :flower:
This (with thanks to Brian Roemmele) from Napoleon Hill:
"Let me tell you something that most men never grasp until it's too late. Your life bends to your assumptions. The way you expect things to go is the way they usually go. Not because of fate but because of focus."
(Yet my father used to say, "Fear and respect go hand in hand".)
Have to say, I much prefer Albert Camus's quote :thumbsup: :)
9th May 2025 18:37
Raskolnikov
Re: The Great Quotes thread
Seems some things never change...
“To be GOVERNED is to be kept in sight, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction, noted, registered, enrolled, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, trained, ransomed, exploited, monopolized, extorted, squeezed, mystified, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, despised, harassed, tracked, abused, clubbed, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and, to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.”
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, General Idea of the Revolution in the Nineteenth Century [1851]
11th May 2025 00:13
Raskolnikov
Re: The Great Quotes thread
"The most monstrous monster is the monster with noble feelings."
"Time shall unfold what plighted cunning hides;
Who covers faults, at last shame them derides."
"Our doubts are traitors
And make us lose the good we oft might win,
By fearing to attempt."
Shakespeare/Bacon
21st May 2025 03:26
Eva2
Re: The Great Quotes thread
"When you notice that in order to produce, you must obtain permission from those who produce nothing; when you see that money flows to those who deal not in goods but in favors; when you realize that many get rich through bribery and influence rather than through work, and that the laws no longer protect you against them, but instead, they are protected from you; when you discover that corruption is rewarded and honesty becomes a form of self-sacrifice, then you can confidently say, without fear of being wrong, that your society is doomed."
Ayn Rand
21st May 2025 03:56
Raskolnikov
Re: The Great Quotes thread
Quote:
Posted by Eva2
"When you notice that in order to produce, you must obtain permission from those who produce nothing; when you see that money flows to those who deal not in goods but in favors; when you realize that many get rich through bribery and influence rather than through work, and that the laws no longer protect you against them, but instead, they are protected from you; when you discover that corruption is rewarded and honesty becomes a form of self-sacrifice, then you can confidently say, without fear of being wrong, that your society is doomed."
Ayn Rand
"Are we to understand," asked the judge, "that you hold your own interests above the interests of the public?"
"I hold that such a question can never arise except in a society of cannibals."
Ayn Rand
28th May 2025 00:39
Eva2
Re: The Great Quotes thread
We live in a cage with open gates. "Our mind is like a parachute, only works when it is open". Frank Zappa 1969
29th May 2025 10:27
edina
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"Let your love of life be in keeping with a poem, the poem of life - love, hope, joy, gladness."
ECRL 3440-2 (Edgar Cayce reading QoD (Quote of the Day))