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What the WW3 dreamers need is two sides, any 2 sides, willing to press nuke buttons. They control at least one nuke capable 'side', Israel. Who else can they use to set up a standoff ? . . . A Biden US would be a contender for that if they really do have the nuke codes, which I doubt. But, there are lost and hidden nukes that are probably in the control of the ww3 dreamers. They would still need to create a believable scenario before using any of them. They'd have to build up a nuke capable nation in the public mind as being hot and ready to hit the button so that they can blame that nation for the nuke they fire from their secret arsenal.
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
"US Marine Scott Ritter believes Iran will strike Israel in one of a few different ways that will be devastating to Israel. Will the U.S. get sucked into war?"
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"US Marine Scott Ritter believes Iran will strike Israel in one of a few different ways that will be devastating to Israel. Will the U.S. get sucked into war?"
Only one bullet point needed to summarize this video:
Per Scott Ritter, Iran will attack Israel in 24 hours.
It has been 12 hours since the video was published. It seems the mainstream media is agreeing with him:
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U.S. issues travel warning for Israel with Iran attack believed to be imminent and fear Gaza war could spread
Tel Aviv — Israel is bracing for a worst-case scenario that U.S. officials believe could materialize within just hours — the possibility of a direct attack on Israeli soil by Iran in retaliation for a strike almost two weeks ago that killed seven Iranian military officers. Iran has vowed to take revenge for Israel killing its commanders, who were hit by an April 1 strike on the Iranian embassy in Syria's capital.
Two U.S. officials told CBS News that a major Iranian attack against Israel was expected as soon as Friday, possibly to include more than 100 drones and dozens of missiles aimed at military targets inside the country.
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Cowardly, evil, desperate: Israel kills 3 sons 4 grandchildren of Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh in Gaza:
Israeli attack kills three sons of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh
The Israeli military has confirmed it killed three sons of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh in an air attack in Gaza. Four of Haniyeh’s grandchildren are also reported to have been killed in the strike on the Shati refugee camp on the first day of Eid al-Fitr. Haniyeh has told Al Jazeera that Palestinian leaders will not back down if their families are targeted by the Israeli army, and that the killings will not affect Hamas’s demands in negotiations for a ceasefire.
To Iran's east, you'll find Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Turkmenistan. A big triple no.
To Iran's south: the Persian Gulf which it completely dominates. No good.
To Iran's west: Iraq and Turkiye. The first a definite no, the second, a no so probable it must be considered a certain. Turkiye will not go to war with Iran for the US and Israel - a war not only sure to decimate it, but a war Turkich people will be fanatically against.
To Iran's north is the Caspian Sea. No use.
Azerbaijan and Armenia present an opening, but how will hundreds of thousands of NATO soldiers get there (let alone undetected)? If they go by sea, they will need to traverse the Mediterranean and the Black Sea and virtually physically go through Istanbul. Not only politically complicated, but a long long journey that gives Iran tons of time to prepare.
Remember the months and months the US took to amass forces for the Iraq invasion? It took 6 months or so - with no interruptions.
The problem is, with Iran, there's no way they're going to simply build up forces near the designated target's borders.
Iran has an arsenal of hundreds of thousands of guided and precise ballistic missiles, satellites in space and eyes almost everywhere. If a war is declared or started, every American asset within 0-3000 kilometers of Iran's borders will be bombarded so viciously no missile defense system will be able to stop it.
And all those dozens and dozens of American bases scattered throughout the vast area surrounding Iran? How will the US defend them under an attack on a scale of 1000 October 7th's combined?
Additionally, Iran has the most sophisticated anti-ship missiles in the world (Russia's Yakhont), of which it probably has thousands by now. This means no surface ship is going to be able to come close enough to Iran to make it an effective striking weapon (is this going to be the first time we get to see an aircraft carrier drowning? I believe potentially yes).
The US will have to rely on air superiority, but this is going to prove a very difficult, almost impossible task. US planes will have to fly a long way to get to Iran (and back), and it has invested massively in air defense systems, including some of the most sophisticated in Russia's arsenal. The US will lose many planes which will take years to replenish, and Iran will be able to target with ballistic missiles and drones all the bases from which they take off in Europe or the Middle East.
Another tool the US will use is cruise missiles fired from submarines: but this, too, does not win wars, and can be costly against a rival that prepared for this.
A full-scale invasion of Iran will require potentially millions of soldiers and will take years. The West is simply incapable of an effort of this kind: where will they find millions of young men willing to die at sea in order to occupy a country thousands of miles away? Today? Give me a break.
All this time the Iranians will be defending their home and their independence. The West will be trying to colonize and destroy them. They will have Gaza on their minds.
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I didn't mention Israel because it is virtually irrelevant in this war. Hizbullah alone is enough to paralyze it and keep its military busy for months.
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Bonus point: think about what happens to energy prices in an actual war with Iran. 500$ for an oil barrel? 1000$? 2000$? All is possible.
Guess what country will remain the biggest international producer and exporter of oil and gas, and rip all those extra many, many trillions. You guessed tight. Russia. If the Persian Gulf is up in flames, Russia will become a global economic superpower (at a time when the US is dwindled militarily and economically and cannot even fake a military threat against it).
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Another bonus point: you think Iran cannot, or will not attack on American soil? Think again. From cyber attacks to large-scale, professional, military-level sabotage and guerrilla warfare, in a war with Iran life in the US will definitely not be business as usual, and not only because inflation will be something 200%, and thousands of dead soldiers will return home in coffins every month for a long time.
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The US cannot win a war against Iran. And I believe all parties involved know it. The only thing that remains unknown is how insane and self-destructive the US has become under Netanyahu's and AIPAC's, how shall we call it, influence
13th April 2024 07:51
grapevine
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Great post mizo. Trouble is, the US/allies seem to be ignoring all the logical rules of engagement and continue 'poke-poke-poking' for The Big Response from Iran. But will they be prepared when they get it I wonder? Instead of striking at strategic but outer targets, they might make it more personal and take a pop at the leaders themselves, as in the case of the IRA at the Conservative Party Conference in 1984
13th April 2024 08:19
grapevine
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The speech by Yanis Varoufakis on Palestine that German police banned https://youtube.com/watch?v=9JXXBhruGhc&ab_channel=DiEM25 (15:55)
The German Police interrupted this presentation and grabbed the microphone preventing Yanis Vaoufakis from making this speech. imo Yanis Varoufakis is a much under-used proponent for peace.
13th April 2024 09:15
Rizotto
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"Israel has done it to itself". Scott Ritter is on fire, and blunt. Netanyahu is the most dangerous person on the planet right now, and when Israel undergoes defeat, it might resort to the 'Sampson option', i.e. nuclear weapons.
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13th April 2024 13:12
norman
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Jason Brashear has a prediction that 'fits all the data', and I agree, pretty much.
In the context of what he predicts as a 3rd world war plan, I do wonder if what's crossing the US Mexico border might be an opportunist move by a 3rd party who is aware of the original plan. But, I can also see how it can be part of the original plan.
@rick posted this in the "What personalities do you think deserve MORE exposure and promotion?" thread. I'd never heard of Jason Brashear so I went looking for him. I've listened to 3 interviews with him and I like his depth and accuracy of research and admire his mental recall ability but I don't share the main theme of his conclusions.
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That's quite a broad list there Exomatrix!!
I have to add Jason Brashear "Archiax" as an interesting guy. He can come off as bragging sometimes...don't believe he is he's just making a point. 25 years In prison doing nothing but researching old books can give someone quite a perspective. Believe he is onto something.
Here's his nearly 2 year old prediction of current events, especially note what he says about Jerusalem. I chopped this less than 10 minute section out of a long interview.
It makes perfect sense to me in a few ways, including the savage defence of the "white hat" narrative about the injections, but he's really talking about Pike's 3rd world war plan.
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What the WW3 dreamers need is two sides, any 2 sides, willing to press nuke buttons. They control at least one nuke capable 'side', Israel
And now by the looks of it, Israeli extremists are asking the government to red stamp their red cow sacrifice. Absolute madness that could ignite an already wartorn region into an armageddon-like holy war :facepalm:
The dates April 22-30 are super interesting. I mean, the Judeo/Christian festival of Passover crosses into the constellation of Taurus :sherlock:
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Unbelievable! AIPAC is paying money to advertise on Facebook the fact that it is corrupting the U.S. government and buying influence, especially among Hispanics, Asians, African Americans and progressive Democrats.
As a small but growing minority of Americans are paranoid that Russia is secretly influencing our elections, none of them will notice that AIPAC is spending hundreds of millions to get the U.S.A. behind Zionist genocide, and doing so in broad daylight.
A little off-topic here (but not completely!) — I wonder how many Americans could fill in the names of all those countries on a blank map with just the borders shown? Maybe 1 in 10,000, possibly 1 in 50,000. And maybe only one or two Members of Congress, if any at all.
(I couldn't! Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, no problem, but I've always got Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan confused and misplaced, with no hope for me in sight. :blushing:)
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13th April 2024 15:35
bojancan
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Beautiful intelligent discussion... as always, with wonderful guests... Abby Martin!
Coming in May 2024 from the new Palestinian film company Watermelon Pictures, WALLED OFF is a powerful film about about Israeli military occupation by filmmaker Vin Arfuso in collaboration with Anwar Hadid, Kweku Mandela, Roger Waters and Immortal Technique. Vin and Anwar join Abby to discuss their journey making the film, and the story in context of today's genocide in Gaza.
WALLED OFF: Abby Martin w/ Anwar Hadid & Vin Arfuso on Palestine Film
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with no hope for me in sight. :blushing:)[/I]
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For now there IS hope because they are not ready yet. Probably 5 more years to go. First they have to get Trump back in the White House to nurture the "Christians" and spout a lot of retoric, then he has to serve out his term and be replaced by the person who WILL go to war.
It's depressing but not hopeless to see that the popular inertia is thicker than mud and 5 years will pass like 5 minutes and people still won't grasp what's going on.
Christians are about to tarnish that identity. Maybe that's a good thing, because religious convictions are not faith, anyway.
13th April 2024 18:28
Ravenlocke
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— Message from Iran: Forget about your IME-Corridor. Hold my Delester and await my retaliation.
The Commander of the IRGC navy, Tangsiri, told Al-Mayadeen, that "Iran will respond 'firmly' but not 'hastily' or 'emotionally'."
He said that the hands of resistance are full. Hezbollah is stronger than the first day of the war. Yemen makes its own weapons & targets ships that are 1000km away.
The Americans should know that the Persian Gulf is not an international sea, but it belongs to Iran & several other countries," he also said calling the Strait of Hormuz an area of "friendship" & "peace".
"UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, KSA, Iraq & Kuwait are all our Muslim neighbors & they should know that bringing Israel into Iran's neighborhood is a practical threat to Iran," he added.
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ISRAEL THREATENS IRAN AFTER SEIZING CARGO SHIP
Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari:
“Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world, and its funding of militias in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen has turned the matter into a global conflict.
The Israeli army is prepared for all scenarios and will take the necessary steps in cooperation with our allies to protect our people.
Iran will bear the consequences for choosing to escalate the situation any further. We have increased our readiness to protect Israel from further Iranian aggression. We are also prepared to respond.”
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#Iran (IRGC) is sending multiple messages to the #US and #Israel by seizing the Israeli-own ship MSC ARIES in the Strait of Hormuz.
1. It is in no way a response to the violation of the Israeli bombing of a diplomatic consulate in #Syria.
2. It is a response to
@JoeBiden
's message to Iran saying: Don't (attack Israel). Iran says: What will you do now?
3. Responding to US officials saying that the US "will defend Israel by any means necessary". Iran says: Show us your move now!
4. A response to Israel's bombing of Iranian logistic warehouses in #Syria (not the consulate).
5. Ratcheting up tensions with Israel before the BIG HIT.
6. Cutting off the land route provided to Israel by the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Jordan by offering Israel a port at Jebel Ali where goods are transported via the Trucknet Israeli-Eilat base company to bypass the Yemen Ansar'Allah blockade.
7. The Strait of Hormuz will be closed in case of war (20% of world transit commerce and oil). Expect inflation and oil prices to reach the sky if this conflict continues.
