Drake: Updates, clarifications and more

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Posted by SilentFeathers

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Posted by StarDust

BTW, if you think we're all in the same boat, we aren't…unless we choose to do so. Bon Voyage!:yo:

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We may not all be on the same boat together but we are all on the same planet together, hello.

You can choose to believe your an ascended being, a butterfly, or a rock if you want but that doesn't change the fact that you are actually a human being looking at an internet forum right now.

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From my perspective, only one sliver of my group is here. The rest is elsewhere tending to other matters. Perhaps your experience is different.

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Believing in all these falsehoods doesn't do anyone any good but only makes the whole of us weaker.

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"Falsehoods" according to whom and based on what evidence? What is considered a "falsehood" to some may be a "truth" to another. If this were not so, then there would only be "one religion" on this planet. This is based on the perspective that there is no "universal way" no matter how much you wish to synthesize it.

From my perspective discussing ideas makes us stronger, not weaker, even if you don't believe in them. Believing otherwise is merely a form of control over others as a feeble attempt to deny "free will of choice".

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They like it when we're busy fighting with each other trying to determine what is real and what isn't......

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Who precisely is fighting with whom and to what end? The only thing that is 'real' is what you perceive to be real. Individual results may vary;)

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Thanks for the life lesson Stardust, have a great evening! :)

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Posted by Paul

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Posted by Avocadess

Are you on the Positive or Catastrophic Timeline? Listen 7pm CST to 9pm CST here with Drake and Alfred Webre:

http://alturl.com/6g5o9

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Are you on the Positive or Catastrophic Timeline? Listen 7pm CST to 9pm CST here with Drake and Alfred Webre:

http://alturl.com/6g5o9

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I fixed the "alturl" URL (reassigned a new one, and fixed the URL syntax) so that it should work now.

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For those who might be interested, the Drake discussion with Alfred with regard to "timelines" went into overtime… by 1 hour that wasn't available to live listeners to the best of my knowledge. The total show was approx. 3 hours, not 2 as originally scheduled.

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Posted by viking

We all need to start thinking STO and not STS, and looking at the bigger picture...your statement smacks STS ... perhaps you worded it not quite how you wanted to? yes?

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A wise one I met through this forum suggested to me in an e-mail once, that everything anyone does boils down to service to self. And I thought about that. She pointed out Mother Teresa, in all her good deeds, did so in service to a call within herself.

I found that insight quite profound.

Gripreaper points out (at least this is what I got from the core point amongst his many points) that unless we clean up our own house, how can we really be any good for anyone else?

So I am in the camp of "clean your own mess up first, Chester, and then maybe you can help clean up others" (without imposing my parasitically infested everything upon everyone else).

A tough one indeed. justoneman

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Posted by StarDust

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Posted by Paul

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Are you on the Positive or Catastrophic Timeline? Listen 7pm CST to 9pm CST here with Drake and Alfred Webre:

http://alturl.com/6g5o9

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Posted by StarDust

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Posted by Avocadess

Are you on the Positive or Catastrophic Timeline? Listen 7pm CST to 9pm CST here with Drake and Alfred Webre:

http://alturl.com/6g5o9

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Link doesn't work...

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I fixed the "alturl" URL (reassigned a new one, and fixed the URL syntax) so that it should work now.

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For those who might be interested, the Drake discussion with Alfred with regard to "timelines" went into overtime… by 1 hour that wasn't available to live listeners to the best of my knowledge. The total show was approx. 3 hours, not 2 as originally scheduled.

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Hmmm? interesting......a guest that actually isn't named after a snake or serpent!

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Posted by justoneman

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Posted by viking

We all need to start thinking STO and not STS, and looking at the bigger picture...your statement smacks STS ... perhaps you worded it not quite how you wanted to? yes?

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A wise one I met through this forum suggested to me in an e-mail once, that everything anyone does boils down to service to self. And I thought about that. She pointed out Mother Teresa, in all her good deeds, did so in service to a call within herself.

I found that insight quite profound.

Gripreaper points out (at least this is what I got from the core point amongst his many points) that unless we clean up our own house, how can we really be any good for anyone else?

So I am in the camp of "clean your own mess up first, Chester, and then maybe you can help clean up others" (without imposing my parasitically infested everything upon everyone else).

A tough one indeed. justoneman

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its about balance.

anyone who is exclusively service to self, will end up losing some of the good things that can be gained through helping others,

whereas anyone who is exclusively service to others, is a mug.

the principle of this universe rests, and is founded upon balance.

so why is it...... that we keep ending up in an 'either or' situation?

that, is a polarized disposition.

how can i help you, if i dont help myself.
how can i respect you, if i dont respect myself,

and would you want to be looked after, by someone who doesnt look after themselves.

its not all black and white.

More fear porn or is some of this stuff starting to look to be on the level? http://www.financialsensearchive.com...2008/0414.html

How Safe is My FDIC-Insured Bank Account?
by Dr. Chris Martenson. April 14, 2008

Your bank account may not be as safe as you think (or hope). Taking a deeper look at the legal details and the financial depth of the FDIC reveals several troubling details that call into question how the FDIC would fare during a true banking crisis.

The US is coming out of a period of unusually low banking stress and failures. Since it is typical human behavior to let one's guard down during tranquil periods, we might legitimately ask if this has happened with respect to the FDIC.

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[Mod-edit: The above post was a duplicate of another post, made at https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post538353. I trimmed this long duplicate post short, and recommend that the interested reader go to its original posting, at the provided link. -Paul.]

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Posted by Ishtar

I don't want to take us off topic but....

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LOL This thread actually has a topic? Of all the threads I've ever participated in on this forum, this thread has covered more topics, attracted more points of view, and digressed in every possible way.

It is singlehandedly magnifying the human experience and the polarized states associated with being human, and is a real social commentary on what happens during major nexus points of change.

Hi Ishtar - is my "Spirit Guide" the same as my "Spirtual Higher Self"? or is my "Spirit Guide" a separate entity?

Thanks for the helpful posts.

justoneman

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Posted by StarDust

From my perspective, only one sliver of my group is here. The rest is elsewhere tending to other matters. Perhaps your experience is different.
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Posted by SilentFeathers

They like it when we're busy fighting with each other trying to determine what is real and what isn't......

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Who precisely is fighting with whom and to what end? The only thing that is 'real' is what you perceive to be real. Individual results may vary;)

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What is really interesting, is the open possibility that you may not actually be the only sliver of your group here :)

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Posted by justoneman

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Posted by viking

We all need to start thinking STO and not STS, and looking at the bigger picture...your statement smacks STS ... perhaps you worded it not quite how you wanted to? yes?

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A wise one I met through this forum suggested to me in an e-mail once, that everything anyone does boils down to service to self. And I thought about that. She pointed out Mother Teresa, in all her good deeds, did so in service to a call within herself.

I found that insight quite profound.

Gripreaper points out (at least this is what I got from the core point amongst his many points) that unless we clean up our own house, how can we really be any good for anyone else?

So I am in the camp of "clean your own mess up first, Chester, and then maybe you can help clean up others" (without imposing my parasitically infested everything upon everyone else).

A tough one indeed. justoneman

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The further you go down this rabbit hole the more helpful it is to see that STO and STS are basically two sides of the same coin.

The more your consciousness perspective evolves, the more you are neither one or the other but remain in Service to the one infinite creation, in which you are, of course, a component part.

A purified, positive being if they offer service to themselves will actually be in service to others because in that purity - it is the same thing. The main thing that matters is your intent. If you intend to feed and take care of yourself (a service to self) so you can live another day in the service of others then clearly the ultimate service is to others.

Mother Theresa - in my opinion - was serving the Christ within her as well as the Christ within those of whom she served - she served her lord, personified for her as Jesus.

"By blood, I am Albanian. By citizenship, an Indian. By faith, I am a Catholic nun. As to my calling, I belong to the world. As to my heart, I belong entirely to the Heart of Jesus."

I would not therefore describe Mother Theresa as STS, simply because it is obvious to me that she was not polarized that way at all.

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For those who might be interested, the Drake discussion with Alfred with regard to "timelines" went into overtime… by 1 hour that wasn't available to live listeners to the best of my knowledge. The total show was approx. 3 hours, not 2 as originally scheduled.

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OMG, I am standing beside myself looking back at my body and wondering how the hell I got to this point in my life!

A partial list of activities I would rather do than listen to Alfred Webre and Drake for 3 hours....did I really just type that? Have I ascended/descended and don't know it?

OK the list.

watch paint dry

read the phone book

shopping with Condi

interview with Benjamin Fulford, Princess Nakamura and Leo Zagami

remove toenails.....

Service to self. Our current social conditioning and political correctness makes it impossible to bring down the matrix. Miss Manners is the only thing standing between you and freedom.

When you see someone building and spreading matrices that keep us imprisoned and you are socially incorrect for pointing it out , we may as well just grab a trowel and build it yourself.

Each time we have to 'accept' stupidity, ignorant, uneducated people wanting to run things, the spread of programming, wild improbable stories milled around with monotonous regularity, and shrilling fear porn left and right, and handle it the way the powers that be want you to handle it , (treating it with kid gloves)you are serving yourself.

That way you aren't being socially incorrect, not standing outside the herd, and not stirring the pot, or hurting feelings of those who have the powers-that-be invested in them. You aren't risking anything. You don't have to worry that you aren't popular or perceived as the nice guy, the good guy. You tear one lien apart holding the matrix together, or identify it and you cross the boundaries of those who assist in building this artificial reality; you better just go stand in the corner. Somehow, in some mysterious way, it will just dissolve itself.

Don't do anything that may cause the witless agents of the ptb to stray from their course, or expose it, or identify what it's doing just because we've been highjacked for god knows how long by that sort of social engineering. When someone stands up in a movie or a radio show and shakes a fist its to announce its all just a movie..its okay. There's nothing risked.

If its for for real...it's not okay. That person needs to sit down because the rest of the herd can't see the smoke screen.

When you see your Drakes and Fulfords and Rockefellers spinning their webs you better smile and nod and reassure yourself that you aren't stirring the pot. You may not be perceived as 'nice' and all service to other people have the FDA stamp of nice.

The more you protect, and excuse matrix building....the longer it will be around.


There is something higher than the illusion world we contribute to. By all means don't pay it the slightest bit of attention. It won't make you popular but popular people aren't really free. They have all these grasping people milling around them waiting for the next incredulous tale to be spun from their personal channelers (or video game developers). Because after all that is what it is.

We have to treat the ptb with kid gloves and those who unconsciously continue this prison with kid gloves and unwittingly serve the ptb in the process. There is something above this artificial re-production that one can serve, but you can't serve two masters. You have deny one master and all their little tools and stoolies as well.

When the time comes that we don't, we'll be serving something other than ourselves.

As always this is a choice. In spite of the fact our flavor of the month stool pigeon has failed to produce anything since he became the flavor of the month back in the spring, people are still making a choice for him, serving his lack of production, enabling it and basically ensuring that the web of ....I can't even call it deceit, its too inane and idiotic to be called deceit which implies some cunning on one's part....

How cunning do you have to be when your audience comes to you pre-conned?

....the web of idiocy then. Still spinning it because there's more flies to catch.


If your attitude about this sort of blow isn't doing you any favors, socially, you may be on the service to something higher than what other people are 'nicely' committed to.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=y4QkvPSwDHs

Okay that really gave me a fit of the giggles....

I wonder what's in the pot.

Spaghetti?

I bet it's spaghetti. Let's fight about it ..

SHUT UP! Spaghetti?

What would make you think it would be spaghetti? Are you running a program, again?

It's definitely dumplings and toadstools in there!:p

Because if someone's stirring the pot I want to make sure its something I want to eat! Don't look a pot stirrer in the mouth (or something like that ) because what they are stirring could be where your next meal comes from.

Besides...My mother ate* toadstools when she was breast feeding me.

*It's hard to find eye of newt in the Bible Belt.

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I would find spaghetti and dumplings an acceptable source of nutrition....

you're both wrong.

its a balance of dumplings and spaghetti.


if one is exclusively, dumplings, then one will miss out on the good things that come from spaghetti,

and if one is exclusively spaghetti, well then that will be at the expense of ones own dumplings.

this universe rests, and is founded upon cooking.

and i dont know how many times i have to say that :cool:


lol, trolls and their little dumplings!

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Besides...My mother ate* toadstools when she was breast feeding me.

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That's more than anyone needed to know (TMI)!

goodnight:peace:

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Posted by justoneman

Hi Ishtar - is my "Spirit Guide" the same as my "Spirtual Higher Self"? or is my "Spirit Guide" a separate entity

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Good question, justone.

I can only say from my experience, and that is No. That's because my main spirit guide in the Upper World is more like my partner, my counterpart, as we complement each other in a kind of male/female way. Whereas I have also met my Higher Self, if you want to call her that, and she is like a super version of me in every way, and she seems to be carving out my path through this life.

Thanks all for your very kind birthday wishes. I really do appreciate it. I was thinking ... I've spent so much of the last year in the Drake thread that it is entirely appropriate to celebrate my birthday in it. People will be getting married and having babies in here next! ;)

People will be getting married and having babies in here next!

I laughed at that...and then I got scared it might happen.