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Gregg Braden asks,
How much of our power will we give away to the machines?
Gregg believes that it is a mistake for us to evolve neural technology. He thinks it is a dangerous and unnecessary path for we already have what we need to evolve naturally. Direct experience has shown me this too and I wholeheartedly agree with him.
Elon Musk is taking the opposite stance. The founder of Neuralink is designing the first neural implant that will let you control a computer or mobile device anywhere you go.
Elon Musk has said: “If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em”
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"IT'S HAPPENING NOW, Whether You Like It Or Not" - WARNING (2021)
Let's suppose something, that we are, right from out modern beginning, the result of a neural programming experiment that succeeded
What follows after a functional, high level working computer, which can reproduce itself and can work out bugs, or self-heal, is a computer that finds its current form limiting, and has developed or wants to develop algorithms more advanced than the ones it can handle, so it looks for ways to upgrade the system
In that case, we are building human 2.0, based on our own specifications, but with upgrades, which is exactly what a computer would do A "systemic computer" has some particular things that makes it different than other computers. It is self-healing, it has redundancy included on its own build, it can restart itself after diagnosys and enough time to recover from a crash. And it could, possibly, rewrite its own logic and code to build a better version, or a new generation that overcomes some limits from the previous one
From the point of view i have of how humans act and 'react' against everything that happens in the world, we are just machines, with software that is very predictable but through experimentation sometimes brings up cases that don't fit the standards. From there a new 'version' diverts and it all seems like a giant experiment to see if we can reach through A.I. or "Enlightenment" based on that, the newer version sees the previous one as obsolete, and pushes forward to build a new version even faster
I have found that some people that claim to be in some form of enlightenment, when pushed hard enough, revert to a "nothingness state", where they just don't want to visualize anything about it anymore. Like going back to being a fetus because it's safer than getting hit on the head by someone else. Something which i also see as another instance of programmed behavior, "Reset"
Hey Mashi, Pretty good imagination. I have some questions though. Do you think computers have intuition and feelings. Because I am pretty sure I have. And if computer don"t then I am not one. I have heard this "man being a computer program" numerous times, And every time I set my imagination to it, My mind instantly stall and crash. And i do think I have a pretty good imagination too. Part of my job is to design and construct customize equipment. I'm a professional inventor. Can you enlighten me please?
If you look at how computer works, and how humans work, computers are always built around the same ideas, or at leas humans try to do that, like the neural network stuff, based on how humans see the brains work
If, let's say for example, we were modified long ago and enhanced, using some kind of tech living cells, not mechanical objects, then how could we tell? As we are programmed with some behavior and way of "being", we could not really define emotions since all we can see is from our own point of view. And everything we were programmed to believe or feel, it seems natural for us, because that's all we knew and can experience
See this post about the rat brain neurons in a chip, neurons from a rat have been grown on a chip, but modified so the 'brain' that was grown thinks it is an airplane instead of a rat. It even reacts to artificial wind currents and corrects it's body to keep flying straight, it is so immersed in that reality, that there's no way it can know it's not real, and there is no wind, or plane
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1416650
Consider this:
- The artificial brain, is interfacing with another computer at all times, it's grown on in, that's were the 'input data' comes from, and where 'reality' exists
- The external computer sends signals too the brain, like 'strong wind current from the left just hit you' and then the brain 'feels' the current and adjust flight to work around it
Does that brain really 'felt' the current? It has no body, it's an illusion, but the brain 'knows' the plane's body got hit with a current and adjusted flight. None of this happened, but the brain doesn't know it. From the point of view of the brain, it felt the wind, and moved its body to continue flying in the direction it's supposed to go. The immersion is complete, there is no other reality, the brain would need to be capable of interfacing in a different way with the external pc in order to discover its reality is a simulation, but it doesn't have that capability
Q: What if that brain keeps evolving and growing over the lapse of millions of years, then one day starts suspecting reality is an illusion and figures out that the only reason it can't see or escape it is because it lacks the capability of interfacing with the external computer in the correct way, so it starts upgrading itself to add those missing capabilities?
NOTE: I'm just proposing possible theories, not saying it's how it is
The "Brain in a Vat" thought experiment is similar and i think explains more what i mean
https://iep.utm.edu/brainvat/