What evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
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Posted by Irminsül
It's more than clear that all the people who are part of the "elite" got there by doing unspeakable things. Among some clues, you can see clothing with Illuminati or even outright satanic symbolism worn by this man. That said, I apologize to the person who made the thread — the thread is specifically meant to highlight the positive side of this individual. I believe ExomatrixTV made a separate post to show this person's dark side. Farewell, take care!Quote:
Posted by MikeWhat evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
Posted by Irminsül
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Posted by IrminsülIt's more than clear that all the people who are part of the "elite" got there by doing unspeakable things. Among some clues, you can see clothing with Illuminati or even outright satanic symbolism worn by this man. That said, I apologize to the person who made the thread — the thread is specifically meant to highlight the positive side of this individual. I believe ExomatrixTV made a separate post to show this person's dark side. Farewell, take care!Quote:
Posted by MikeWhat evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
Posted by Irminsül
I'm sorry but you don't get to make such a dramatic claim like that and walk away.
It's not clear at all to me that Elon Musk did "unspeakable things". What unspeakable things did he do? Please be specific.
What illuminatti symbols are you talking about? Show pictures please.
Please present evidence that he's a pedophile.
Please present evidence that he's a satanist.
(Since you asked) I'll step in if you don't mind and provide some worrying details from his life and close circle (immediate family).
I honestly don't know what to think of the whole "black eye club" thing, but I'll fully admit it's weird. I've never once had a black eye as an adult. Point being, outside of mma or whatever, black eyes are really uncommon. Yet everytime the black eye club gets brought up in the elite circles, they act like it’s a totally normal everyday thing.Quote:
Posted by Mike
Musk on his final day of DOGE
https://www.hindustantimes.com/ht-im...8628340095.png
Not him exactly, but his dad for sureQuote:
Posted by Mike
https://i.postimg.cc/SQ1KL9Nt/IMG-8960.jpg
Elon in "inverted priest" outfit on Met gala or something like that with Grimes.Quote:
Posted by Mike
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01...8768594485.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/L43bGkZN/IMG-8961.jpg
Elon's satanic mom & girlfriend.
https://i.postimg.cc/3wjXW1hq/IMG-8962.jpg
Now you can continue to adore him in this thread :facepalm:
I will continue to adore him! LOL.
Was all that supposed to be like some profound mic drop moment?:)
You called Musk a pedophile, remember? And then you offered up his dad as evidence? Yeah, his dad married what I guess you'd call an ex-stepdaughter, many years after he divorced the mother. She was 25 when it all happened. Not a kid or anything. Still weird? Hell yeah! But it's got nothing to do with your claim that Elon is a pedophile. Nothing.
His ex girlfriend, Grimes, looks like a vampire, I'll give you that. Never liked her. She is a colossal idiot. Musk clearly tired of her as well; they're no longer together. His more recent crop of baby mamas are far more on the normal side. Look them up.
The imagery Grimes uses is bizarre and disturbing. But having listened to her speak, she strikes me as an overgrown "Hot Topic" chick with a few Wicca books lying around the house maybe.. I don't take her seriously as any kind of dedicated satanist. I think she wears that garb as an affectation. I think Musk, being an eccentric himself, was drawn to her eccentricity.
The mom is weird, yes. I mean, the whole family is weird! They look like they're straight out of a Wes Anderson movie, or The Adams Family. I don't know what to make of them. But they look far more like a parody of an evil family than an actual evil family. There is some imagery here that's illuminatti-like, no doubt. But when I see Musk wearing a costume like that (at a Halloween party, mind you) and flexing like a buffoon, I see irony, not evil.
But to be fair, you've begun to make a case for some kind of satanic link perhaps; I'll give you that. But there isn't a shred of evidence that Elon is a pedophile or that he's done any sort of "unspeakable things". That's all wild conjecture on your part.
Here is mt 2 cents worth on this topic.Quote:
Posted by IrminsülIt's more than clear that all the people who are part of the "elite" got there by doing unspeakable things. Among some clues, you can see clothing with Illuminati or even outright satanic symbolism worn by this man. That said, I apologize to the person who made the thread — the thread is specifically meant to highlight the positive side of this individual. I believe ExomatrixTV made a separate post to show this person's dark side. Farewell, take care!Quote:
Posted by MikeWhat evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
Posted by Irminsül
Irminsül, I have admired several of the threads that you have started and a few of the comments you have made. Your threads appear to be well thought out and fairly detailed. It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with everything you write, but I admire the effort and the thoughtfulness. So your last two posts about Musk seem a bit out of character.
I get that a lot of people hate Musk, and I can certainly understand why you and many people in Argentina "might" hate him, given the fact that he and President Milei are kindred spirits when it comes to cutting government. I know that before Milei became president, he would often brandish a chainsaw at campaign rallies as a symbol of his drive to cut the size of government. I know that over the last year that Musk has promoted Milei's speeches and held him out as an example of how to cut government spending. So I might not agree with your thoughts on Musk, but I get your hatred, but you really should make an effort to put some evidence on the table before you label Musk a satanic, pedophile psychopath from the "elite."
Truly great individuals who possess just the right combination of intelligence, courage, and creativity come along so infrequently that we should encourage and applaud their growth. Sadly, a rather sizeable segment of the population feels convinced that their destruction is necessary.
I admire Musk quite a bit, and when I think about how he will be viewed in 100 years, 500 years or more, it is simply breathtaking. Every effort he has made in his adult life has been for the betterment of humanity, a trait so remarkedly rare that it will most likely not be seen again in your lifetime. This does not mean that Musk is a saintlike figure (who is); he certainly is a flawed messenger, but what he has already accomplished and will in the future is nothing short of staggering.
Sadly, while finding all of the corruption and fraud, no one seems to be being held accountable for their treasonous thefts... What is the point if these individuals are not arrested and charged with their crimes? Sorry that you suffered so much loss and retribution Elon, for what you embarked on, only to watch these criminals walk away...
No, no that was the other guy - post above mine.. I just provided some photos since you've asked.Quote:
Posted by Mike
Elon Musk has a very strange vibe as far as I'm concerned, but I can't categorically claim he's a Satanist or a pedophile (does anyone have real proof that Bill Gates is illuminati-satanist-pedofile?), but details like this definitely don't help him.
On the other hand, maybe you're right and it's just a matter of weird sense of humor, bizarre parents and very bad taste in women. Time will tell.
Hi rgray222! Thank you for your words. I actually realized that it was wrong to post something negative about Musk in the first place, because this thread is meant to highlight his positive qualities. I later understood that it wasn’t the right place for that. But I noticed that some people who commented afterwards also shared negative opinions about him. So I guess there’s no problem discussing the topic here…Quote:
Posted by rgray222Here is mt 2 cents worth on this topic.Quote:
Posted by IrminsülIt's more than clear that all the people who are part of the "elite" got there by doing unspeakable things. Among some clues, you can see clothing with Illuminati or even outright satanic symbolism worn by this man. That said, I apologize to the person who made the thread — the thread is specifically meant to highlight the positive side of this individual. I believe ExomatrixTV made a separate post to show this person's dark side. Farewell, take care!Quote:
Posted by MikeWhat evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
Posted by Irminsül
Irminsül, I have admired several of the threads that you have started and a few of the comments you have made. Your threads appear to be well thought out and fairly detailed. It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with everything you write, but I admire the effort and the thoughtfulness. So your last two posts about Musk seem a bit out of character.
I get that a lot of people hate Musk, and I can certainly understand why you and many people in Argentina "might" hate him, given the fact that he and President Milei are kindred spirits when it comes to cutting government. I know that before Milei became president, he would often brandish a chainsaw at campaign rallies as a symbol of his drive to cut the size of government. I know that over the last year that Musk has promoted Milei's speeches and held him out as an example of how to cut government spending. So I might not agree with your thoughts on Musk, but I get your hatred, but you really should make an effort to put some evidence on the table before you label Musk a satanic, pedophile psychopath from the "elite."
Truly great individuals who possess just the right combination of intelligence, courage, and creativity come along so infrequently that we should encourage and applaud their growth. Sadly, a rather sizeable segment of the population feels convinced that their destruction is necessary.
I admire Musk quite a bit, and when I think about how he will be viewed in 100 years, 500 years or more, it is simply breathtaking. Every effort he has made in his adult life has been for the betterment of humanity, a trait so remarkedly rare that it will most likely not be seen again in your lifetime. This does not mean that Musk is a saintlike figure (who is); he certainly is a flawed messenger, but what he has already accomplished and will in the future is nothing short of staggering.
His transhumanist agenda seems to me like a clear sign that he’s working for the wrong side. These kinds of people—these major public figures—always operate in this way. It’s like defending Bill Gates, who, if you watch the Netflix documentaries about him, is portrayed as an exemplary human being, a genius, and a philanthropist. But in reality, that’s just a façade for his true interests. In India and Africa, he carried out vaccine experiments on people, leaving hundreds with motor issues and other problems.
Another example would be thinking that Pope Francis was a great person. And that "great person" said that getting the COVID vaccine was an act of love! (That’s just one example among dozens). So I believe that people who are at the top of the pyramid are very rarely good human beings.
Once again, I point to the fact that Elon is pushing the transhumanist agenda—something I don’t consider a minor issue.
- Elon Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Trump’s Budget Bill!:
Elon Musk lashed out at President Donald Trump's signature tax and spending bill on Wednesday, calling on Americans to tell their representatives in Washington to "kill the bill".
The budget, which includes huge tax breaks and a sharp rise in military spending, was passed by the House of Representatives last month and is now being considered by senators.
The tech billionaire posted on X earlier this week that the bill would add to the US budget deficit and saddle Americans with "crushing" debt. On Tuesday, he had described it as a "disgusting abomination", in a widening rift between the two.
Jimmy Dore and Kurt Metzger discuss how the budget bill betrays Republicans’ lack of concern about the ballooning debt.
there is one thing I have never understood. many people know what insanity is, it is loss of logic to the max.
But yet it is not the height of the full insane core issue.
That is The basic fact of being egotistical.
So Quite honestly, Trump and musk are both at the peek of insanity.
that elon black eye said it all..
Hi Mike! Here I’m sharing with you what would be the equivalent of slamming reality right into your face, haha. Obviously, you can keep idolizing whoever you want. But at least now you can’t say the truth wasn’t shown to you. I know it’s annoying when someone talks about how things really are and that goes against someone else’s beliefs (especially if they’re beliefs that person has held for years). You can see this very clearly with flat-earthers when you show them that their belief system is based on nonsense, mistakes, bad reasoning, etc. I’m sure what I’m saying bothers you, Mike, but well... you wanted more proof—here’s another one with quite a bit of weight:
The "Secret" High Society of the Purple Eye
By César C. Torella de Sanleucio y Sanmiguel
The "High Society of the Purple Eyes" is the highest level of the so-called "Illuminati"—sic, a mistranslation of the ancient and true Alumbrados of Spain and Naples, who were something entirely different. The "Members or Followers of the Purple Eye" stand above all of the modern, Hanoverian, and corrupted Freemasonry. These anti-initiates and occultists, through a mysterious and secret rite, display as a visible and contingent consequence the now well-known "Purple Eye."
It appears that while previous rituals might have involved contact with the Elohim-Gods—or perhaps, instead, with Demons—after this Final Rite, the initiates become definitively enslaved to this "Ultradimensional Entity." In this case, to say “eye” is also to say beware of them.
The photograph below was published on “X” by Mr. Ricardo De Spirito Balbuena, @elzorrotacneno, who comments on it with the following words:
“Sarah Ruth Ashcraft, the supposed victim, speaks of a ritual that every person must undergo as an initiation to gain access to the most powerful and secret lodge in the world: the ILLUMINATI. Whether true or not, the number of public figures appearing with a purple eye is truly astonishing.”
César C. Torella de Sanleucio y Sanmiguel in the Úfita Valley, Spanish Hidalgo of Naples and Orthodox Knight of Constantinople.
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Irminsul, this is all very interesting, and I mean that. I enjoy this kind of speculation in a weird sort of way. It's fun! But as of right now it remains just that: speculation.
I'm not going to look up every black eye you've presented here. No doubt most of them have very common explanations. I've had at least 2 black eyes that I can recall, and I'm not a member of the Purple Eye Society. Neither are the dozens of friends and family of mine that have suffered black eyes during their lives.
I'd be open to seeing more evidence as you build your case (I'm open to being proven wrong!) but so far you haven't demonstrated anything concrete. You began by accusing Musk of being a pedophile and someone who has engaged in "unspeakable things", and to prove that you've sent me a bunch of black eyes and some cosplay stuff.
If you started an Elon thread and over time kept adding circumstantial evidence to it, I'd follow it with curiosity. You're in the very,very early stages of building what I'd call a tenuous case. But you have my attention, and if you continue I'll keep paying attention and try to maintain an open mind. But it must be said that's it's very reckless and irresponsible of you to make the type of accusations you've made so far (Elon being a pedophile) without any real evidence whatsoever. That's why I called you out on that. I like you, and I like your thoughtful posts on UFO's, so it's nothing personal but this sort of piling on Elon with crazy claims really gets in my craw.
Yes. This is one of the core issues. No-one's been arrested or (seemingly) held to account for all the fraud that DOGE unearthed.Quote:
Posted by Denise/Dizi
And DOGE was only just getting started. Elon was personally committed to the project night and day. And despite the important discoveries about USAID and Social Security fraud, it never got to grips with a bunch of even more important issues, because all the roadblocks went up to impede it.
Trump, very probably under pressure from the Deep State, stopped supporting it.
I suspect that Trump never expected DOGE would make so many quick inroads into the deep-rooted DC corruption. And soon after all that was exposed, it's 100% clear DOGE suddenly had the door slammed in its face and was not permitted to go anywhere near auditing the Pentagon — or Fort Knox. (Remember that??)
The last straw for Elon was the 'Big Beautiful Bill'. He's 100% justified in his anger about that. He saw that this would bring down the US economy, would add more trillions to the debt — and Must never wanted that to happen. It went 100% against what DOGE was tasked to accomplish.
Elon's criticism of the bill sent Trump over the edge as well — because politically he has to get it through. Trump knew it was flawed, and Elon told the truth. But Trump is in a corner economically as well as politically. So he had to attack Musk in retaliation.
Then when Trump lied (yes, he did), saying that Musk was fully familiar with the bill way in advance, and he was just upset about the EV issue, Musk was even more enraged.
Musk felt very betrayed by Trump's maneuvering. Musk has never been a politician, but Trump has to be — which means making compromises, looking after donors, being aware of the Deep State, taking cheap shots at others which are unjustified, and distorting truths. (Yes, Trump does all that, as do all politicians.)
The Russians, when asked to comment on all this, politely said that it was none of their concern (which it's not). But they'll be quietly noting that this is more evidence of Trump's inability to keep his promises to individuals*, and his previously stated commitments to goals and projects.* And don't let's talk about Jared Isaacman's withdrawal as the nominee to head NASA, who Elon naturally fully supported. Isaacman was by far the best person qualified for the job, and Trump had previously posted effusively in his favor. Isaacman's withdrawal was for purely political reasons: nothing at all to do with NASA or the US's future in space — which Elon also deeply cares about.For Elon, all this is about pesonal integrity. I really feel pretty sure about this. :flower:
I'm in agreement with all of this, with one exception maybe. At this point anyway, it's not obvious to me that Elon is right about The Big Beautiful Bill. Time will tell, I s'pose, but I've heard this bill (and all it's ramifications) being described very differently by different people.. all highly intelligent and capable - partisans and non-partisans alike - so it's left me a little off balance. I know as much about bills and economics as I do about brain surgery, so all I can really do is rely on the analysis of others and apply my intuition.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanYes. This is one of the core issues. No-one's been arrested or (seemingly) held to account for all the fraud that DOGE unearthed.Quote:
Posted by Denise/Dizi
And DOGE was only just getting started. Elon was personally committed to the project night and day. And despite the important discoveries about USAID and Social Security fraud, it never got to grips with a bunch of even more important issues, because all the roadblocks went up to impede it.
Trump, very probably under pressure from the Deep State, stopped supporting it.
I suspect that Trump never expected DOGE would make so many quick inroads into the deep-rooted DC corruption. And soon after all that was exposed, it's 100% clear DOGE suddenly had the door slammed in its face and was not permitted to go anywhere near auditing the Pentagon — or Fort Knox. (Remember that??)
The last straw for Elon was the 'Big Beautiful Bill'. He's 100% justified in his anger about that. He saw that this would bring down the US economy, would add more trillions to the debt — and Must never wanted that to happen. It went 100% against what DOGE was tasked to accomplish.
Elon's criticism of the bill sent Trump over the edge as well — because politically he has to get it through. Trump knew it was flawed, and Elon told the truth. But Trump is in a corner economically as well as politically. So he had to attack Musk in retaliation.
Then when Trump lied (yes, he did), saying that Musk was fully familiar with the bill way in advance, and he was just upset about the EV issue, Musk was even more enraged.
Musk felt very betrayed by Trump's maneuvering. Musk has never been a politician, but Trump has to be — which means making compromises, looking after donors, being aware of the Deep State, taking cheap shots at others which are unjustified, and distorting truths. (Yes, Trump does all that, as do all politicians.)
The Russians, when asked to comment on all this, politely said that it was none of their concern (which it's not). But they'll be quietly noting that this is more evidence of Trump's inability to keep his promises to individuals*, and his previously stated commitments to goals and projects.* And don't let's talk about Jared Isaacman's withdrawal as the nominee to head NASA, who Elon naturally fully supported. Isaacman was by far the best person qualified for the job, and Trump had previously posted effusively in his favor. Isaacman's withdrawal was for purely political reasons: nothing at all to do with NASA or the US's future in space — which Elon also deeply cares about.For Elon, all this is about pesonal integrity. I really feel pretty sure about this. :flower:
Setting all that aside, if I were Elon I'd be furious too. But I can sympathize with Trump's position as well. Ben Shapiro has a really thoughtful take. He breaks down the feud into 3 parts: political, business, and personal. 11 mins long:
This might help you understand the logic behind Musk's investment in transhumanism.Quote:
Posted by IrminsülHi rgray222! Thank you for your words. I actually realized that it was wrong to post something negative about Musk in the first place, because this thread is meant to highlight his positive qualities. I later understood that it wasn’t the right place for that. But I noticed that some people who commented afterwards also shared negative opinions about him. So I guess there’s no problem discussing the topic here…Quote:
Posted by rgray222Here is mt 2 cents worth on this topic.Quote:
Posted by IrminsülIt's more than clear that all the people who are part of the "elite" got there by doing unspeakable things. Among some clues, you can see clothing with Illuminati or even outright satanic symbolism worn by this man. That said, I apologize to the person who made the thread — the thread is specifically meant to highlight the positive side of this individual. I believe ExomatrixTV made a separate post to show this person's dark side. Farewell, take care!Quote:
Posted by MikeWhat evidence do you have for any of that?Quote:
Posted by Irminsül
Irminsül, I have admired several of the threads that you have started and a few of the comments you have made. Your threads appear to be well thought out and fairly detailed. It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with everything you write, but I admire the effort and the thoughtfulness. So your last two posts about Musk seem a bit out of character.
I get that a lot of people hate Musk, and I can certainly understand why you and many people in Argentina "might" hate him, given the fact that he and President Milei are kindred spirits when it comes to cutting government. I know that before Milei became president, he would often brandish a chainsaw at campaign rallies as a symbol of his drive to cut the size of government. I know that over the last year that Musk has promoted Milei's speeches and held him out as an example of how to cut government spending. So I might not agree with your thoughts on Musk, but I get your hatred, but you really should make an effort to put some evidence on the table before you label Musk a satanic, pedophile psychopath from the "elite."
Truly great individuals who possess just the right combination of intelligence, courage, and creativity come along so infrequently that we should encourage and applaud their growth. Sadly, a rather sizeable segment of the population feels convinced that their destruction is necessary.
I admire Musk quite a bit, and when I think about how he will be viewed in 100 years, 500 years or more, it is simply breathtaking. Every effort he has made in his adult life has been for the betterment of humanity, a trait so remarkedly rare that it will most likely not be seen again in your lifetime. This does not mean that Musk is a saintlike figure (who is); he certainly is a flawed messenger, but what he has already accomplished and will in the future is nothing short of staggering.
His transhumanist agenda seems to me like a clear sign that he’s working for the wrong side. These kinds of people—these major public figures—always operate in this way. It’s like defending Bill Gates, who, if you watch the Netflix documentaries about him, is portrayed as an exemplary human being, a genius, and a philanthropist. But in reality, that’s just a façade for his true interests. In India and Africa, he carried out vaccine experiments on people, leaving hundreds with motor issues and other problems.
Another example would be thinking that Pope Francis was a great person. And that "great person" said that getting the COVID vaccine was an act of love! (That’s just one example among dozens). So I believe that people who are at the top of the pyramid are very rarely good human beings.
Once again, I point to the fact that Elon is pushing the transhumanist agenda—something I don’t consider a minor issue.
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Posted by Gemma13
Hi Mike! Well, thanks for your words. To be honest, as those who’ve gotten to know me in this beautiful forum have probably seen, it’s not really my style to post things like that initial message about Elon. Sometimes I go through certain mental/emotional phases that are a bit unusual, and I act impulsively… “guided,” maybe? That’s kind of what happened with the whole Elon thing. And within less than three days, the current scandal between him and Trump broke out. Synchronicity? Maybe. Was I guided by my Pleiadian friends? Perhaps. Have I always been a bit crazy? Don’t even doubt it, haha.
Anyway… I’m honestly not interested in trying to prove Elon Musk’s “evilness.” Not everything in life requires proof or hard evidence. In ufology, people who think like that tend to follow a materialist-positivist model, and in order to believe or accept the existence of extraterrestrial beings, they feel the need to dissect one. It’s the equivalent of the apostle Thomas, who needed to stick his hand into Jesus’s wound to confirm that He had resurrected.
Just today I received that information about the Purple Eye Club through a WhatsApp group, and that’s why I shared it. I don’t think I’ll go much deeper into the topic… unless more info comes my way, haha. Take care!
Friends, watch the half-minute section between 1:00 and 1:33 in this video. Thomas Massie predicted the entire thing on 18 May, nearly 3 weeks ago. And what he foresaw is exactly what happened.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=E8UpmXfXy8c
Transcript:That's a real untold story here. And I think we may be on a collision course.
I think there's three cars coming together at an intersection, and they don't realize they're going to hit. One of them is Congress with Mike Johnson driving. Trump obviously is is one of these cars. (Maybe he's the train.) And then there's another car which is DOGE.
And I don't think Elon Musk is going to suffer these fools once he finds out how foolish they are or duplicitous they are.