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Lay off David - the man needs money to survive in the system we are in, I think he is doing a great job - his messages are always positive.
I think there are many people on here addicted to fear porn and when some good news comes on the horizon they always seem to lash out at it.
Give him a break and look at all of the FREE information he is putting out there
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We...each One of Us...Must still do the higher work in front of us through are very own volition regardless of how the 'higher'(us extension) is playing out and panning out...and it is happening because now is like no other time, imho!
Whether it be Bill or David or Benjamin or Whoever that is sharing their work and story and research and connections...it is still an individual matter...and the ptb do not like us acting individually together in a unified selfless manner to help these changes for the good come to fruition... the good YOU decide to think and act on!
And keep in mind this is an internet forum and some interesting things are continually being posted by some interesting members that have some interesting agendas.
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Hi Calz sometimes your posts are so clear headed that I'm well impressed, as of this one. :cool:
Stan
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steveofengland
I thiink I'm a bit grumpy today, I'm sorry I don't want to sound mean spirited.
Much love.
Jesus was born into a very wealthy family, He travelled the world learning and teaching. He had no reason to earn as he was looked after.
David has to earn so he can travel, do conferences find accomodation and share what knowledge and understanding he has.
I hope you are not so grumpy now Steve, :-)
Re: Underground Bases Update by Wilcock ...
I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but this new economic system intrigues me... Hasn't China scooped up most of the world's mineral deposit rights and corporations. This sounds like it would make them the richest country in the world, if true. How do we know that this isn't some scheme to transfer power completely to these other 3-5 superpowers and that the world would be a significantly better place? We need more details.
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I like David Wilcock as well, but I'm sorry when I see statements like:
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Collectively, world governments are becoming aware that they have been manipulated and lied to.
Huh? It is the world governments who have been manipulating and lying to us. Assuming they are taking their marching orders from TPTB, are we seriously to believe that they had no clue that they might be manipulated and lied to? I mean, I know our leaders are inept, but they can't be that stupid.
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Many, if not most elected officials are terrified of these hidden powers. They have been vigorously threatened with fates far worse than death -- witnessing the gruesome results firsthand -- if they should ever dare to oppose the Old World Order.
Russia, China, Brazil and India bravely led the charge with the BRIC alliance, which became BRICS when South Africa signed on. From this seed, we now have a massive international coalition involving the leaders of over 80 nations -- and it's growing by the day.
Perhaps the BRICS leaders didn't get the memo that they should be terrified of these hidden powers.
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Together, these nations have formed a new alliance for justice. Their most important and significant goal is to utterly crush the ability to create money out of thin air. All currencies will soon be backed by tangible assets, such as precious metals and other commodities.
This plan was devised by people who had worked within the old system at a very high level, and have since broken away. (I cannot go into greater specifics at this time.) They knew exactly what the biggest problems were -- and what we need to do in order to fix them.
I see, the very people who have been screwing us for decades have miraculously seen the errors of their ways and now want to help us by ushering in a currency system that is backed by "tangible assets" like precious metals, etc. And we're suppose to just accept this on face value? The only reason why anything has "tangible" value is because someone has told us it has value and we accept it. You know, kinda like the US dollar which is backed by nothing. The only things that have true value are food, water and air. These things no one can survive without. We can't eat or breath precious metals. Nevermind the fact that we must still entrust this "new economic system" to some "authority" who will "guarantee" us that there is plenty of gold (or whatever) to back up the monetary system du jour. Sounds to me like same game, different day.
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In the new system, if you have 20 dollars -- either in cash or in your bank account -- you can visit any one of a variety of warehouses storing materials and goods, and withdraw 20 dollars' worth of assets from the warehouse.
Does this sound any different than what we have today to anyone? It's called going to the store and buying what you need.
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This might not sound any different than going to the grocery store, but the difference is extremely substantial. No currency in the world will be issued unless it has the direct backing of hard assets -- held in storage as collateral against the value of the money.
This is not unlike the idea of a Gold Standard -- and in fact, gold will be one of the precious metals held in storage -- but there is not enough gold to run the world's financial systems appropriately at this point. That problem will only intensify as growth continues.
It is very important that all money is tied in with real things: stuff that actually exists, has real value, and sits in a warehouse somewhere, so that anyone who uses the money can turn in their cash for it.
Technically, the term I heard is that every financial system in the world will be "tethered to a basket of commodities."
This one simple move will utterly crush the Illuminati and all other shadow factions. The playing field will finally be leveled.
Legitimate wealth, such as what ordinary people or even most well-to-do people have in the bank, will not be affected by this change.
If you have money in the bank, those assets will still be yours when the changeover is made -- except they will soon have a lot more purchasing power than they did before in the old, corrupt system.
All of this is but a brief transitional phase as we move into what will ultimately be a moneyless system... as I will explain in Part Three.
How does this system change anything? As he points out, the problem will intensify with growth. So unless we limit growth (i.e., reduce population or keep it static), inflation will occur as you have more people with less money going around vying for the same "warehoused" goods. Further, he gives no explanation as to how this will "crush the Illuminati" (who, ostensibly, have great wealth) while we get to keep our wealth (or lack thereof) and are unaffected. And then he goes on to say our money will have more purchasing power. How does that happen?
But the real piece de resistance is given by the last line (i.e., all of this is transitional phase before we will move into a moneyless system). Yeah, right. Not only will we no longer have any "tangible" object (i.e., paper money) to trade for goods and services, but we'll be able to completely trust the intangible accounting of the banksters and their computer systems to manage our "moneyless system." I mean, we all know how trustworthy the banks, wall street, etc. have been and there certainly aren't any nefarious programmers out there who might "tweak" the software that controls everything. I feel better all ready. How about you?
I could go on and on, but you get my drift. This whole thing smells very suspicious to me. Kinda like, oh, NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
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Do I jump in or not? Why not - here goes.
Yes David's messages are always hopeful. Yes David has accumulated lots of knowledge. Yes David has many contacts. Yes David has made a good income off of the above (not saying that's right or wrong). And Yes, David has displayed a great deal of ego, although I have noticed he has also made great efforts of late to pull it back.
I haven't kept track of David's predictions, but I have seen many not materialize, but then he tweaks them by saying something like: First info wasn't entirely correct but since has gotten more clarification.
I suspect, like many of us, David has developed more psychic abilities than the average. What I do know from personal experience is that when one begins to believe they are smarter or more psychic than others or become too egotistical that their abilities begin to atrophied. I also notice that it is very easy to get pulled into our own stories by weaving with others of same mindset and feeding off of each other. Not saying any of this is or isn't true of David.
Just saying Look Both Ways Before crossing the Street and don't get too caught up in the Drama of the incoming Traffic.
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Jesus was born into a very wealthy family, He travelled the world learning and teaching. He had no reason to earn as he was looked after.
My friend, I believe that you are confusing Jesus with Buddha here... :nod:
Re: Underground Bases Update by Wilcock ...
Two votes here from Minnesota for David Wilcock's sincerity.
I asked my friend about David Wilcock recently. My friend is a scientific hardcore guy in his 60's with a PHD studying nutrition, astrology and the occult for 40 plus years.
He scours everything with a fine tooth come. He says Wilcock is the "real deal" and that it is also true that Wilcock is the re-incarnation of Edgar Cayce.
This article, if mostly accurate, indicates we are in the throes of the "shift".
PS I am feeling just a bit uneasy knowing that both Bill and Kerry are going to be out of the United States for quite a while. Bill moved to Vilcam......, and Kerry posted on her blog to be overseas from Oct. 15th for a month+.
Hmmmm...... Anybody want to put me and Otis up in a safer country up for the winter? signed, Gooty and Otis. ps I don't each much but I can't speak for Otis-he's 4 months
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Wilcox makes a very good point in calling them The Powers that Were. We should do the same. As Webot founder Cliff High cautions, be selective of the words you use as it empowers or dis-empowers something. We should always refer them as Wilcox did, TPTW. It's certainly an easier adaption to our vernacular than Was-Weres (WW).
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Hi SteveofEngland,
I read about this on Wilcock's site a couple of days ago after seeing the link on Inelia's facebook page. I didn't have to pay for this extensive information that took a long time to read!
If I hadn't been drawn to David Icke's book in the bookshop one day, I would never have known anything about the real history of the world and what's going on. I'm beginning to think that to be totally skeptical is as limiting as being totally naive. Maybe you should do a bit of research before coming out with generalisations like this?
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I too like David Wilcock, but sometimes I feel that if I were a first-class devil feeling particularly diabolical, I might incarnate as someone like him :cool:
Actually, it doesn't really matter, because when Shakespeare said 'all the world's a stage', he was thinking of Othello and Iago downing a pint of ale together after the performance.
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Hi, nobody has mentioned in this thread that these countries are working against the leaders of the G5 nations, Britain, the U.S., France, Germany and Italy. These are the people mainly responsible for the underground bases and the incoming NWO. The other countries are cheesed off because up until now they have been receiving worthless, unbacked paper money from these nations. They have had enough and have told the U.S. that they don't want their money any more. This is why they've invaded Libya: Ghaddafi said he wasn't willing to accept this money any more. The Japanese did the same and look what happened there recently and after the event they were threatened with a nuclear incident in the Tokyo area. The massacre in Norway is another example. Go and read the article on David's site. It is a lot more complex than seems in this thread. Fulford also claims that the people in the Pentagon are working against these people and that there are plans to arrest Bush snr, jnr, Blair, Kissinger, Rumsfeld, etc. as soon as they are able. I don't know if this is exact but even David Wilcock is saying not to post the article because it is being constantly updated. I do, hope, though that this is what is really happening and it does seem to fit in with the fact that we should be entering a new Golden Age if we are on the positive timeline.
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I read the DW article. I wish.
Stan
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billyji
Jesus was born into a very wealthy family, He travelled the world learning and teaching. He had no reason to earn as he was looked after.
My friend, I believe that you are confusing Jesus with
Buddha here... :nod:
No confusion my friend.
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ceetee9
Technically, the term I heard is that every financial system in the world will be "tethered to a basket of commodities."
This one simple move will utterly crush the Illuminati and all other shadow factions. The playing field will finally be leveled.
Legitimate wealth, such as what ordinary people or even most well-to-do people have in the bank, will not be affected by this change.
If you have money in the bank, those assets will still be yours when the changeover is made -- except they will soon have a lot more purchasing power than they did before in the old, corrupt system.
All of this is but a brief transitional phase as we move into what will ultimately be a moneyless system... as I will explain in Part Three.
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ceetee9
How does this system change anything? As he points out, the problem will intensify with growth. So unless we limit growth (i.e., reduce population or keep it static), inflation will occur as you have more people with less money going around vying for the same "warehoused" goods. Further, he gives no explanation as to how this will "crush the Illuminati" (who, ostensibly, have great wealth) while we get to keep our wealth (or lack thereof) and are unaffected. And then he goes on to say our money will have more purchasing power. How does that happen?
But the real piece de resistance is given by the last line (i.e., all of this is transitional phase before we will move into a moneyless system). Yeah, right. Not only will we no longer have any "tangible" object (i.e., paper money) to trade for goods and services, but we'll be able to completely trust the intangible accounting of the banksters and their computer systems to manage our "moneyless system." I mean, we all know how trustworthy the banks, wall street, etc. have been and there certainly aren't any nefarious programmers out there who might "tweak" the software that controls everything. I feel better all ready. How about you?
I could go on and on, but you get my drift. This whole thing smells very suspicious to me. Kinda like, oh, NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
All of this is but a brief transitional phase as we move into what will ultimately be a moneyless system... as I will explain in Part Three.
Michael Tellinger... Contributionism, For Instance
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YsGtTdjGVa4
This IS Going To Happen! A Transition WILL Take Place!
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I love good news!.............
I don't absolutely believe David is spot on with his grasp of things but I need guys like him in my life to out weigh the apathetic ( at best ) and head'down ignoramuses that suck the life out of me here.
I did something very wacky last Friday night. I went down to my local working men's club ( for the first time in over a year ), waited until the "serious" crew were still left over after closing time, asked the landlord for a quote to buy everyone in the place a free drink, handed over the money, and waited a few minutes until it was time to make a short speech.
I announced to everyone there that the fight back has really begun. I told them at least 2 underground bunkers that the world's crooked elite were going to shelter in while we all caught a pandemic cold have been thoroughly NUKED!.
Not one cheer from the audience. Most didn't even get it. 1 young lad just said, "so will this soon be on the Discovery Channel?"
I was chuffed to even be able to walk in there and tell the good news. I didn't feel dependent on a roaring response. Nor did I get one.
One of 2 reasons I did it was because I know there are few keen Freemasons in there on a Friday night, and there were, so I could give them something to check out later. The other reason was simply to celebrate something actually worth celebrating for a change. They like a good excuse to celebrate in that place. Usually it's about who won a football trophy, but I felt compelled to stick a bit of the big picture in their faces. Maybe they will gradually get the idea.
I know a 'working men's club' in the north east of England might not seem very relevant to many of you, but, I feel very strongly that those places are the heart and soul of the real world. When those guys "get-it" you know it's going to happen.
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So the guy is selling books? That's all I'm saying.
There is nothing wrong with supporting oneself or try to recoup one's living expenses. It is certainly better to be able to do that than be dependent on the state. The latter involves a victim mindset that is warned about in Handbook for a New Paradigm (published by George Green). Jordan Maxwell is another noted and well respected researcher yet he cannot make a living through his research. Ditto with Red Elk.
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Hahahahahahahhahaaaaaaa Frickin' space hippies!!!! Bwahahaha!! It was just a Star Trek rerun.
But seriously, we already are running our economy on a basket of commodities. And we all should know darned well that the American economy was purposely sunk for profit and the NWO. We lived it. Now we're getting it sold to us.
It may look like the NWO, smell like the NWO, and taste just like the NWO, but it's not, it's:
"I Can't Believe Its Not The NWO!"
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Isn't it possible that Wilcock is being duped by his 'sources' ?
Consider this: TPTB know that within the last 10-20 years their plot to achieve world domination through some type of doomsday mechanism (e.g. fake alien invasion, nuclear war, manufactured 'natural' disasters etc.) has entered into the public domain. Now, obviously everything is done to deride this people as crazy conspiracy theorists who walk around all day in tinfoil hats. So they've succeeded in containing this knowledge to a small percentage of the population.
But the fact of the matter is, once they initiate their doomsday mechanism there will be a contingent of people who actually know what is going on - and that could ruin everything. If they just round these people up, well that would legitimize everything to the non-believers. So wouldn't it be a stroke of brilliance if they lulled the awake ones into thinking 'o hey, this isn't part of the fake invasion, those are the benevolent space hippie ETs!'
Because everything that Wilcock just described is exactly what the NWO calls for: a world without currency and the introduction of ETs. And we're supposed to let our guard down because a guy, with a blog and a couple of sources says so?