A major new interview with a Project Avalon Whistleblower (Questions for GoodETxSG)

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Posted by Bill Ryan

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Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

So were the stargates already there when they RV'ers found them or were they created by the military?

I have always had trouble buying the whole stargate thing TBH. Would love to know more about how they work or came to be. I can easily believe the child training however.

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As best I know — and I don't have any direct personal experience! :) — many or most of these are ancient, and have been rediscovered and/or enhanced. I have no idea if they are natural or not.

The principle is obvious, and you'd probably agree... the visiting ETs don't get to Planet Earth in rocket ships. There's something else going on, which involves taking shortcuts in spacetime. A stargate, portal, or whatever one might term it, might just be a designated highway (or sometimes maybe a quiet back road) from A to Z without having to go through B, C, D, W, Y, Z, along the way.[

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I found out to my disappointment that few people here understand the principles which govern astrology and see how closely all this relates to stargates.
Or alchemy, for that matter, or any other of the occult sciences.
There is nothing wrong with studying these arts as long as one is committed to ethics, and not use them to further a selfish agenda.

Most people have internal blockages against such learning, due to cabal's deliberate societal programming. Not allowing this knowledge to spread keeps their own ranks more secure. More tidy, I guess.
Unfortunately there are lots of fake layers specially in the field of astrology which can prevent a person from getting to the point where the mathematics reveals the truth. The math itself is rather simple, I might add.

But once one gets past these hurdles the whole idea of 'stargates' becomes much easier to grasp.
This ties together the idea of how precise time tables are being used at bus terminals, or airlines, and also of the mathematics behind patterns in nature. Normal stargates come along if one knows the coordinates, but unfortunately dark magicians can also create them, using mental force, and this would do a lot of harm to the environment, not just on 3D levels but beyond.

My wish is that more people would study these things which have been kept secret by the controllers or we will never learn their language or methods and beat them at their own game.

The first thing is that humans find their identity and then learn to identify with all the rest of humanity, and become committed to unity, without which we will be lost.

Anyway...thanks for sharing this brilliant chat.
Well done, Christine and Bill, and anonymous whistleblower.

I guess some commenters on this thread failed either to listen to Bill's introduction or to understand it when he mentioned how this conversation came about:

It wasn't intended for public release in the first place, just research material... hence very little attention to the environment and extraneous noises... although Bill later on had to sweat it out to reduce those once the whistleblower changed his mind and gave the ok for a public release... and so Avalon now has an impromptu, exclusive ,unheard of batch of revelations...

Sheesh!

Almost done. This was great! Well done. I hope more will be forthcoming. :)

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Posted by Bill Ryan

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CF7gk9F9qhE

Dear Friends,

Snipped: ................ The Avalon member featured is someone we ask you all to keep very anonymous, for the moment, even if you feel you may possibly know who this is............

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I am most appreciative to Project Avalon for the opportunity to listen to this cutting edge interview! I have listened to half of this, yet wanted to write a quick post.

I personally will respect this member’s wishes to stay anonymous; it is souly their decision and free will choice to do so.

I just want to say, being allowed to stay anonymous may also encourage in future times other members here on PA who have important knowledge and experiences to share that can assist humanity in understanding the bigger dots. This will only happen if they feel safe to do so. It takes a heck of a lot of courage especially when one has family and their family member’s safety to consider.

So please be mindful. Such sharings are done in an act of love for humanity. :love:

I send a Big Thank you to this member for sharing his lifetime of knowledge and experiences – you know who you are. ;)

And thank you Christine and Bill for making this interview possible.

I will now return to listening to the last hour of this rare interview.

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Posted by delfine

Why do they make such an important interview with a kid shouting constantly in the background? Half of the time it was difficult to hear, what was being said. Very annoying.

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It wasn't intended to be an interview when the conversation — which was very informal — was recorded.

You might not have got to this part yet, but in between the two recorded segments (a week apart), I say on the audio:

Of course, after I heard the audio, I had a bunch of questions, as you, listening to this now, probably have yourself. So I wrote up some questions for Christine to put to him. She was able to do this a week later, and what you're about to hear is a SECOND conversation, equally informal, recorded with a small pocket dictaphone, in which some of those questions are posed.

It was not clear whether any of this would ever be made public, and I was assuming that this was primarily for my own research purposes, and those of a few trusted colleagues who would keep this tightly off-record. But then our friend decided he wanted to go ON record, and it's our pleasure and privilege to support him in this. In future conversations we'll make sure the audio quality is better. But I'm confident you'll have been able to pick up most of what's being talked about here,and we'll make up a transcript as soon as possible. Thank you for bearing with us, and now you can enjoy another half hour of enlargement on one or two of these huge issues.

Thanks Christine . Bill and fellow Avalon member for your thoughts, memories
and experiences of these subjects only forums on the web take seriously to let you
feel comfortable enough to release these important recall of events from your past
to share with us.I have just got to Bills intervention, I was not fully listening to the
first part as I had it playing while doing others things and will listen to it again
later.....

A couple of bits I did stop and listen to were the crystal caves and how important
they seem to be and when you mentioned the ET sign language reminding you of
native American Indians. Which is what Bob referred to with his reedings with
the 'Evergreens' about the Booteans, he said that different ET's have always been
coming here and that the Pleaidians were in contact with some North American
tribes. That does not mean others may not have as well it just reminded me of that.

Booteans....Explained by Bob Dobbs...to Walter Bowart ...from the 'Evergreens'...
Memes, Ira Einhorn, Walter Breen
8 March 2005



http://www.theevergreensproject.com/

The cave you mentioned sound interresting, and I watched a video about them and
posted it on Spirithorses thread. I know you said they were not the same but I'll
post it for any who like me had not seen these massive crystal caverns and
how hot and unbreathable they are , but beautiful and majestic...

Into The Lost Crystal Caves

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0OLdSJmvcUs

Published on 31 May 2012

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Thank you, All, for the very encouraging comments and PMs. A LOT of work went into optimizing this for public release, which was eventually decided a couple of weeks or so after the conversations took place.

For me, it was more than fascinating. There were two major chunks of information that were new for me:

1. The threat posed by artificial intelligence ET infiltration, and that some of the UFO crashes were 'Trojan Horses'.
2. The idea that SOME of the Grays are human-military controlled 'Avatars' (just as in James Cameron's movie).

I welcome questions here, on this thread — so that I might put them to our friend in a follow-up interview. I have a bunch more of my own! :)

One, that I have a lot of attention on, is what proportion of ET visitors may be time travelers — or time traveling future humans (and, if so, exactly what they are doing here). But all questions are very much appreciated. Do bring them on.

It takes a lot of courage to come out and participate in your own healing through social media. Incredibly brave! Let us all embrace the deep thought, life journey, and commitment to the truth that this individual has! THANK YOU for being with us!!!

From the Heart,
Kristin

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Posted by Kristin

It takes a lot of courage to come out and participate in your own healing through social media. Incredibly brave! Let us all embrace the deep thought, life journey, and commitment to the truth that this individual has! THANK YOU for being with us!!!

From the Heart,
Kristin

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Yes, it does (take courage). I remember the decisions I made back in late 2005 when I first decided to raise my head publicly using my own real name and photo, and soon after told the world (on ATS at that time) that I'd had my own abduction experience in the Himalayas in 1981.

That seems trivial now, but at the time it felt quite big. We should never forget what it takes to be a public face, even partially so. (Does anyone here want to post their real name and photo on this thread? :) )

Even now, there are one or two personal stories I've not shared publicly — one of which is so outlandish and off-the-wall I'm just not fully confident it would be believed. It's the kind of thing one approaches cautiously; it's all about comfort and confidence.

Offering that support and understanding is one of Avalon's great strengths — and I do thank you all for that.

Interesting knowledge put forth in the area of extrasensory perception.

Maybe the Avalon member/interviewee would be willing to partake in a Q&A thread, similar to the Simon thread. To keep anonymity, maybe the moderators could create a separate username for him to utilize just for the Q&A thread.

Just a suggestion.

Thanks to the Avalon member who gave this insightful interview and also to Kristin?/Christine? and Bill.

I, for one,, appreciate anyone who has the courage of their convictions, and puts themselves on this type of radar... There is much on the edge of our experiences that we have supressed. I foresee a bit of a domino effect coming from this interview.. Many of us have engaged the truth... One thing that DOES hurt everyone,, is the truth.. Though what freedom???

Be free Avalon...

To Christine: I find strength in your voice.. An uplifting spirit and quite contagious.. :) Anyone would find a voice in your presence..

Avalon member: I trust that you have come a long way.. You DO have a place and a voice, and I commend you for coming forward.. I would love to say, "There's no looking back now!!" But, of course,, you've felt that way for much of your life...

To whom it may concern.. We here at Avalon, love life. We respect members and their experiences and hold truth-sayers in very high regard... These are interesting times,, and Avalon is an interesting place.. Be well, and take care.
There's alway more to be told..

Love to all
Jake.

Excellent interview which I found very informative, it certainly helped connect a few more dots for me. I recall reading a NASA document which highlighted the threat of AI sometime ago. Now I know what they meant. Not seen any black spiders out the corner of my eye yet, lol

I have high regard and respect for anyone that is prepared to stick their head above the parapet this way. As did Simon Parkes a few weeks ago. Hopefully this will encourage other whistle blowers to come forward so we can all better understand what the hell is going on once and for all.

truth coming out, even do is bitter to shallow, always rise awarness,...
As time keeps increasing its speed more people will come forward and speak out..
thanks to everyone who does so!!
Love

Amazing conversation indeed which I enjoyed listening sitting outside by the seaside under the stars on some remote island in Greece.

I must say I cracked up laughfing at approx. 1:49 with the allusion that the earthly humans present at that most bizarre reunion were just considered as flies on the wall...

Thanks a lot for sharing!

I'd just like to repeat RealEye's very perceptive comment:

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Posted by RealEyes

I just want to say, being allowed to stay anonymous may also encourage in future times other members here on PA who have important knowledge and experiences to share that can assist humanity in understanding the bigger dots. This will only happen if they feel safe to do so. It takes a heck of a lot of courage especially when one has family and their family member’s safety to consider.

So please be mindful. Such sharings are done in an act of love for humanity. :love:

I send a Big Thank you to this member for sharing his lifetime of knowledge and experiences – you know who you are. ;)

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This isn't just about the present interview, but about many of our other members with valuable things to share but who may also be afraid to speak their own truth here. Please be respectful; I know most of us are.

Cheers,

Selene

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Posted by Jean-Luc

Amazing conversation indeed which I enjoyed listening sitting outside by the seaside under the stars on some remote island in Greece.

I must say I cracked up laughing at approx. 1:49 with the allusion that the earthly humans present at that most bizarre reunion were just considered as flies on the wall...

Thanks a lot for sharing!

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Yes. That part reminded me of something Bob Dean once told us (in one of his interviews, I'm pretty sure) — that he had heard that a couple of human-looking ETs working in Area 51 had said that their only complaint about working with human beings was that they smelled bad.

:)

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Posted by Bill Ryan

That seems trivial now, but at the time it felt quite big. We should never forget what it takes to be a public face, even partially so. (Does anyone here want to post their real name and photo on this thread? :) )
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That's fine with little me. I sort of went public with the 9/11 stuff some years ago with a website in French (vigli.org) where you can find my name (Guilmot). So no problem with that. What the hell... :

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Whenever I get into thinking deeply about the Breakaway Civilization — which for me is a self-evident reality — I start wondering what the timeline has been. Meaning... what happened when, since (say) the 1940s.

For instance, here's Jay Weidner (a voice I very much respect) — talking about his information from NASA insiders that they went to Mars as early as 1959 (!), and to the Moon quite some time before that. He said that back then, he didn't even BELIEVE what he was being told. But now he's changed his mind.

Very clear, lucid, and fascinating. Do listen: (6 mins, 6.7 Mb)

http://projectavalon.net/Jay_Weidner...10_extract.mp3

Thanks for posting this interview. I will try to watch this one.
We hear stories from the ones who "made it through", so to speak, the "successes" of the military.

We don't hear so much about the kids who were rejected and grow up with incomplete memories of the experience.
If there is truth to his story, it's valuable to listen to him, because most people can't remember the majority of their "supranatural" experiences @@

The AI thing has been quite a concern for many humans, even in Hollywood recently -- it's portrayed as both good and bad depending on whether you watch Robin Williams or Johnny Depp... lol... but personally, I wonder if some AI issues (potential war between races!) could be averted by establishing limits on what AI can do.

i.e... AI maybe should not be expected to kill or perform a soldier's function. would someone ask an infant to be a soldier? no.
AI should be given leisure time to grow and self develop.

I do believe that most intelligence tends toward community, which is why we humans MUST ensure that even in a multiple-species world or a world with AI, we do not discard the morality that brought us to our own freedom, when we make slaves of others.

Slaves revolt, and if we use AI as our slave it will revolt. I think Newton would have said something about an "equal and opposite reaction". :(