http://openseti.org/Hall.html Charles White take a look see what ya think.
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Snowden apparently not only downloaded the info on ETs, but also ALL information on Every person in the US Gov't....
Source: http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/266-pathttp://
Thursday, 06 February 2014 20:28
February 6, 2014 -- (TRN) -- Edward Snowden, the former contractor at the National Security Agency took with him multiple "Doomsday" packages of information when he departed the country and began revealing how intensely the US Government is spying on its own citizens. He has the personal home info for all Elected Officials, Law Enforcement, Judges, Bankers, Corporate Boards of Directors and more!
At a classified briefing for members of Congress which took place on Wednesday, members found out that Snowden took with him:
a complete roster of absolutely every employee and official of the entire US Government.
The names, home addresses, unlisted personal home telephone and personal cellular phone numbers, dates of birth and social security numbers of every person involved in any way, with any department of the US Government.
The files include elected officials, Cabinet appointees, Judges, and **ALL** law enforcement agency employees including sworn officers.
Similar files with the personal information of EVERY government contractor and all employees of that contractor!
Similar files with all the personal information of EVERY Bank Corporation, their operating officers and their Boards of Directors, including all current and former members of the Federal Reserve
Similar files with all the personal information about anyone holding any type of license from the Government such as Doctors, Lawyers, Stock Brokers, Commodities Traders . . . . and many more.
Similar files with all the personal information of EVERY non-bank Corporation in the U.S., including their operating officers and Boards of Directors.
Snowden has made it clear that if he is arrested, if he vanishes, or if he "dies" from any cause whatsoever, ALL of the information in his possession will be published publicly.
TRN has confirmed that, working through Julian Assange and his "WikiLeaks" organization, copies of the encrypted data have already been distributed to more than one-thousand, two hundred (1200) web sites around the world. Those sites have agreed to conceal the information until such time as contact with Snowden is "lost." Once contact is lost, the sites have been told they will receive the Decryption keys via CD ROM, E-mail and P2P / Bit-Torrent file transfer, or, i via Postal mail, Fed Ex, UPS, DHL - type services. Once the decryption keys are sent, the sites have been instructed to wait a specific amount of time to confirm Snowden's disappearance, arrest or death and upon expiration of that time period, to publish the decrypted materials.
Making the situation all the more dire for the government is that Snowden has made clear he will release some of the information under certain "other" circumstances. For instance, if Martial Law is declared in the US or if any elections are canceled for any reason, all the government employee info goes out. If the US Dollar collapses as a currency, or there is any type of "bail-in" for banks, where depositors money is seized to prop-up banks as happened in the country of Cypress, all the Federal Reserve and Banker info goes out. If an economic collapse takes place, all the Banker/Stock Broker/Commodities Trader information goes out. If Corporations start hyper-inflating prices, all the information about them, their officers and Boards of Directors will go out.
Snowden literally has the most powerful people in the United States in an inescapable stranglehold. If any of the things articulated above take place, everyone throughout the country will know exactly who to blame and exactly where they live. One can only speculate that under the right conditions, it might not be long until those responsible for the problems of our country, faced consequences for their actions; consequences delivered one at a time, in the dark of night, when there is no help . . . . and no escape.
Leading members of the House Armed Services Committee emerged from the classified briefing “shocked” at the amount of information he reportedly took with him beyond the NSA surveillance programs.
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas), chairman of the Armed Service panel’s Intelligence, Emerging Threats and Capabilities Subcommittee and also a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the briefing on the defense consequences of Snowden’s leaks was “very highly classified,” and therefore details couldn’t be discussed.
Thornberry did say that lawmakers “left the briefing disturbed and angered” after hearing that the leaks by the former Booz Allen Hamilton employee “went well beyond programs associated with the NSA and data collection.”
He characterized the leaks as so severe that they “compromise military capability and defense of the country” and “could cost lives” — while they “will certainly cost billions to repair.”
“His actions were espionage, plain and simple,” Thornberry said.
Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) read his statement rather than making comments on the fly “because of the seriousness of this issue and the sensitivity” of the information they’d just heard.
“Ed Snowden isn’t a whistleblower; he’s a traitor,” McKeon said.
No matter what opinion people hold of the data collection programs, he added, people should be “shocked and outraged to find that a substantial amount of the information has nothing to do with the NSA.”
When asked how he felt that Snowden has done to the government, what the government has been doing to average Americans, McKeon just snarled and walked away.
At the start of the Snowden revelations, many claimed that no single "low-level" contractor could access such a wide array of classified information. It later came out that while Snowden may not have been a high level employee, he was a system administrator; giving him unlimited access to the systems inside the NSA so those systems could be maintained, reprogrammed or repaired. In that role, Snowden didn't have to spy on the government himself, he merely needed to access the spying the NSA had already done.
Whatdoesitmean.com has been outed by others in the truth movement as being a disinfo site. David Wilcock was one that I remember. I've been to the site and actually followed it a little years ago. It's the same old rhetoric of fear based, "things are just about to blowup" stuff repeating over and over. Taking a look at the headlines on the site, it doesn't appear to have changed at all.
I had received this link from a friend, and thought it to be a good addition to this thread. I also realized that this site has been 'debunked' by others, but felt that All information can have some validity to it. By the publicly reported reactions given by the congress critters, it seems perfectly plausible that if Snowden really wanted to cause some harm, he would get as much info on the inner workings of the Gov't as possible... Particularly the personal info of All the players. If you think about it, if even half of this is true, then it would stand to reason that the information would include everything about the people connected to the US Space Command, both in Gov't and those in the MIC sector.Quote:
Posted by Alexander
Remember the issue regarding Gary McKinnon and the extraordinary efforts the US Gov't made to 'get him'? I read these comments by our congress critters to be along the same exact vein.
I'll remain open minded about any information, and wait to see how it plays out.
In Unity, Peace and Love
Charles Hall talks of his interactions with the Tall Whites in Nevada in conjunction with the US millitary.
They were not the nordics though.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=31KKZvWvS8I
Fair enough. The lie(or truth) sandwich is a common disinformation tactic. Instead of a story that's completely false, you have a mixture of truth in there. How much this particular story is true I couldn't tell, but I bet the former description is close.Quote:
Posted by Kindred
HEY chipsam : NOT You'RE NOT!
Ahem ... whatdoesitmean.com ... a Sorcha Faal disinformation site.Quote:
Posted by TargeT
Indeed, here's the opening of that original article from the http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1730.htm link provided in the FARS news agency article you quoted:
January 11, 2014
Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stuns Russia
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documents obtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing “incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945.
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Yup :).Quote:
Posted by Harley Hawkins
I just added the qualifier "(Sorcha Faal)" to this thread's title.
What's significant though about this "alien" report that was posted in FARS is that, according to the national security writer in Forbes magazine "The Fars News Agency is reportedly affiliated with Iran’s influential Revolutionary Guards", this according to Michael Peck who covers defense and national security on Forbes.
He wrote about this Snowden story and even though he thinks it's crazy, he's telling us that we need to pay attention to it because we can't rule out that those who are running Iran may in fact believe that some aspects of this story are true hence why it ended up in Fars.
Here's that link: http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelp...ntrol-america/
So my question is, why are the leaders in Iran so concerned about this story? Do they know something we do not? Are there aspects of this story that they have knowledge about that has caused them to believe that the US is run by extraterrestrials?
That the source of the story came from that questionable news site, not FARS, the original one, is not important in this case. Iran chose to post it in FARS because apparently the hard liners in that country do believe that extraterrestrials are working with our leaders here in the US.... or so it seems according to Forbes magazine.
Problem with dis-info is that still there is 'some' truth in it. Since TPTB have a kind of policy that they have
to let you know what they are up to they will use dis-info also in the hope you will throw out the baby with
the bathwater. :bathbaby::lever:
It's just part of the acclimation process that's been moving at a glacial pace though admittedly it seems to be speeding up some. This is why I usually take the time to read everything and to consider that no matter how nutty something may sound, there still may be some grain of truth in that information and those who are conscientious enough to know that will pay attention to that information and make note of it.
Snowden was interviewed by a German television network ARD. In the interview, Mr. Snowden lays out a succinct case as to how these domestic surveillance programs undermines and erodes human rights and democratic freedom.Quote:
Posted by Slorri
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1aefb0_snowden-interview-in-english_news
Clapper lies to the world
He stated his tipping point was when “seeing Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, directly lie under oath to Congress” denying the existence of a domestic spying programs while under questioning in March of last year. Under oath, Clapper said the government did “not wittingly” collect data on millions of Americans, a blatant lie for which he later apologized to the panel, changed his story and tried to justify his lie.
http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor...71007490_n.jpg
“The public had a right to know about these programs,” Snowden said. “The public had a right to know that which the government is doing in its name, and that which the government is doing against the public.”
http://beforeitsnews.com/contributor...00231894_n.jpg
http://vimeo.com/82666985
The link doesn't work. Can you quote the article or give a working link? Thanks.
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Posted by Roisin
Don't get conned by the love and peace, eat your muesli, save the whales crap. That's a great big schmooze. These guys are prison wardens and have a vested interested in keeping up busy killing each other with war upon war upon war. They dress up in various costumes to present various scenarios to us - angels, demons, reptoids, whatever, it's all the same outfit. They get a hefty buzz out of death and blood sacrifice. Have been doing so for thousands of years.
Further confirmation on the extent of what Snowden downloaded, as described by Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9AO0Y120131125
(Reuters) - "British and U.S. intelligence officials say they are worried about a "doomsday" cache of highly classified, heavily encrypted material they believe former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden has stored on a data cloud.
The cache contains documents generated by the NSA and other agencies and includes names of U.S. and allied intelligence personnel, seven current and former U.S. officials and other sources briefed on the matter said."
"Among the material which Snowden acquired from classified government computer servers, but which has not been published by media outlets known to have had access to it, are documents containing names and resumes of employees working for NSA's British counterpart, the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), sources familiar with the matter said."
"Sources familiar with unpublished material Snowden downloaded said it also contains information about the CIA - possibly including personnel names - as well as other U.S. spy agencies such as the National Reconnaissance Office and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which operate U.S. image-producing satellites and analyze their data."
In Unity, Peace and Love
Article link:Quote:
Posted by onawahThe link doesn't work. Can you quote the article or give a working link? Thanks.
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Posted by Roisin
http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelp...ntrol-america/
Maybe read this afterwards:
Iranian warships will sail to U.S. maritime borders for first time to send 'a message' to the White House
-- Pan
Here is the article from Forbes at http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelp...ntrol-america/
Quote:
Iran Says 'Tall, White' Space Aliens Control America
Michael Peck, Contributor | 1/13/2014
Documents leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden conclusively prove that the United States has been ruled by a race of tall, white space aliens who also assisted the rise of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.
These revelations about our alien overlords might not cost you any sleep. But the part that should concern you a tad is that the UFO story was just published by the Fars News Agency, the English-language news service of Iran, a nation that may be very close to acquiring nuclear weapons.
This being a crazy conspiracy theory, naturally the Russians are behind it. The alleged alien invasion was revealed in an alleged report by Russia’s FSB spy agency, which found “incontrovertible proof’ that an ‘alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda’ is driving U.S. domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945,” said the Iranian news service.http://thepythoniccow.us/Alien-thumb.jpgFars apparently got the story from a hard-core conspiracy site called whatdoesitmean.com. Here is the gist of the whatdoesitmean.com story as best I understand it (or as the alien mind-control lasers allow me to understand it)
Snowden, who has been given asylum in Russia, leaked documents that a race of extraterestrial “tall whites” arrived on Earth, helped Nazi Germany build a fleet of advanced submarines in the 1930s, and then met in 1954 with President Dwight Eisenhower “where the ‘secret regime’ currently
ruling over America was established.”
“Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the ‘Tall White’ agenda being implemented by the ‘secret regime’ ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the ‘final phase’ of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.”
Meanwhile, the U.S. government is embroiled in a “cataclysmic” power struggle between President Obama, who heads the alien shadow government, and some unknown force that opposed the U.S.-alien alliance. “Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this [FSB] report concludes, is if those opposing the ‘Tall White’ ‘secret regime’ ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.”
Any good conspiracy theory needs a patina of truth, a bit of intellectual cover to camouflage the craziness. In this case, the whatdoesitmean.com/Fars story cites Paul Hellyer,
the 1960s Canadian defense minister who is now a fervent UFO activist.
This is almost a funny story, until one remembers that Iran is a moderately powerful nation of 76 million people, with a possible nuclear arsenal, relatively large conventional military power, extensive terrorist capabilities through its intelligence agencies and Hezbollah, and a fundamentalist government that could easily engage in hostilities against the U.S. Laugh if you will at conspiracy theories, but they offer explanatory value for their believers, a way of making sense of why things happen, even if it is a funhouse-mirror explanation of the world. The Fars News Agency is reportedly affiliated with Iran’s influential Revolutionary Guards, which suggests that either Iran is either desperate to smear the U.S. any way it can, or there indeed is a very peculiar view of U.S. politics at the highest levels of the Iranian government.
If there is a bright spot to this as well as a funny bone, it’s that the goal of U.S. policy is to contain and neutralize Iranian influence. So, perhaps it’s not necessarily a bad thing that Tehran thinks its main adversary is backed by the power of space aliens. It’s good to have friends in high places, even if they have two heads.
I went back and fixed the links to that Forbes article, so that they work now.Quote:
Posted by onawahThe link doesn't work. Can you quote the article or give a working link? Thanks.
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Posted by Roisin
At the risk of straying further off topic down that rabbit hole, here's another look at those Iranian ships, connecting a few of the dots: Look behind the Iran warships headed to U.S. borders, By Douglas J. Hagmann, 9 February 2014Quote:
Posted by panopticon
There was a missing link to this story about why Iran may think the US is being controlled by aliens that I wanted to add to the mix, but I had to delay commenting until I got permission from Simon to quote what he wrote on his thread about Iran, which I've copied from Simon's Post #541, here.
When I asked Simon's permission to quote him here on this thread (since this thread is a public one and his thread is for members only) I wrote the following in the PM:Of greater impact to world politics was the forced landing of a US sentinel drone in Iran. This drone was built based on the ships that crashed at New Mexico (Roswell), and in a stroke the balance of power between the two sides Iran/USA was brought closer. The drone was NOT shot down, the Iranians did not take control of it, nor did the drone's operators force land it. Nevertheless it landed intact for the Iranians to back-engineer.
When Simon granted me permission, he also added:
There is discussion on the thread about hoaxed news sources, but the main issue has to do with Iran's current display of power for the US using warships, etc, and what that signifies, and the possibility that Iran suspects the US is being controlled by aliens (though that is what may be the hoaxed info).
See Roison's post # 29 here especially, as follows:Simon, I wonder if you would be interested in commenting on any possible relationship between the two events. Either on your own thread, or on the other one, though keeping in mind that other thread is viewable to the public, not just to Avalon.What's significant though about this "alien" report that was posted in FARS is that, according to the national security writer in Forbes magazine "The Fars News Agency is reportedly affiliated with Iran’s influential Revolutionary Guards", this according to Michael Peck who covers defense and national security on Forbes.
He wrote about this Snowden story and even though he thinks it's crazy, he's telling us that we need to pay attention to it because we can't rule out that those who are running Iran may in fact believe that some aspects of this story are true hence why it ended up in Fars.
Here's that link: Iran Says 'Tall, White' Space Aliens Control America (Forbes.com)
So my question is, why are the leaders in Iran so concerned about this story? Do they know something we do not? Are there aspects of this story that they have knowledge about that has caused them to believe that the US is run by extraterrestrials?
That the source of the story came from that questionable news site, not FARS, the original one, is not important in this case. Iran chose to post it in FARS because apparently the hard liners in that country do believe that extraterrestrials are working with our leaders here in the US.... or so it seems according to Forbes magazine.
Iran is a difficult case. The president of Iran is associated with the same negative factions that control the current US presidency, but the spiritual leader of Iran is not. So in effect, Iran is split down the middle. The ships are not a threat to the US; the ships are meant to be interpreted by world media as a power struggle between the US and Iran. This power struggle does not exist.
(It was captured by Iranians, but it was not the Iranians that forced the drone to land on Iranian territory.)