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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
Andrew Basiago maintains Obama was his team leader, back when he was known as Barry, during Andrew's
involvement in the Mars jump room program, code named Project Pegasus.
Long vid, but there are many other shorter ones floating around this section of youtube.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
What is the saying? Many a true word spoken in jest...think about it.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
The key thing he said was
" that is why you are not President"
I think that says it all
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
There is a chance the next POTUS will be someone unexpected by TPTW, according to Simon Parkes.
Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren might get enough support, but could something like that actually happen?
The only way I can see it happening is if things behind the scene shift hugely very quickly.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
All extant technology, and all branches of physics...are firmly up against the artificial glass ceiling of technology and physics limiting.
So... the problem is how to break this thing. How to ease it into existence.
Like the horse says:
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...01694293-0.jpg
The larger part of the conference is now free on yootoob, check at the link for the rest of the speakers.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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Originally posted by Carmody: "All extant technology, and all branches of physics...are firmly up against the artificial glass ceiling of technology and physics limiting.
So... the problem is how to break this thing. How to ease it into existence."
It may very well be that breaking will have to do with time, The programming of our world (see Philip.k Dick) is tightly kept under time structure (the division of years, months, minutes, hours) it seems that somehow the breaking of time and the enhancement of consciousness, both runs parallel, are aimed to specifically break this glass ceiling
This answer arise while I am writing
Blessings,
Limor
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
I've always found it hard to believe that an Elected (read Temporary) official would be deliberately made aware of anything unless it was absolutely necessary. I don't see why a President would actually be in any serious position to effect disclosure. Remember the movie Independence Day? I think that's closer to the truth about how secrets are kept than Men In Black.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
I love the passive voice: as a transformation of 'X instructed us', 'we were instructed' lets you off the hook as to the agent involved. It will be news to most people that the so-called 'most powerful man on earth' receives instructions from anyone. Too bad Jon Stewart is no longer around to coax out the next jokey answer by asking 'instructed by whom?'
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
If pressed he will reverse his statements and batter it down or "debunk it". For reactions are the thing that need to be controlled.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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If pressed he will reverse his statements and batter it down or "debunk it"...
That is how all psychopaths speak. They constantly say things which they then reverse. They can contradict themselves even within the same sentence, while their paragraphs are masterpieces of double-speak. This is a known feature of psychopathic "communication".
an addition: Non-psychopathic people do this sometimes, too, of course, but a psychopath does it all the time**, especially when pressed for the truth. Colloquially it is known as weaseling.
**This is because psychopaths are pathological liars. When almost everything a person says is a lie, they are bound to "weasel" a lot!
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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DDavis137
I've always found it hard to believe that an Elected (read Temporary) official would be deliberately made aware of anything unless it was absolutely necessary. I don't see why a President would actually be in any serious position to effect disclosure. Remember the movie Independence Day? I think that's closer to the truth about how secrets are kept than Men In Black.
Yeah, its all on a "need to know" basis. And even if it wasn't actually on a "need to know" basis, they would say that it was anyway...so all their bases covered.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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bogeyman
If pressed he will reverse his statements and batter it down or "debunk it"...
That is how all psychopaths speak. They constantly say things which they then reverse. They can contradict themselves even within the same sentence, while their paragraphs are masterpieces of double-speak. This is a known feature of psychopathic "communication".
an addition: Non-psychopathic people do this sometimes, too, of course, but a psychopath does it all the time**, especially when pressed for the truth. Colloquially it is known as
weaseling.
**This is because psychopaths are pathological liars. When almost everything a person says is a lie, they are bound to "weasel" a lot!
it is called :
The Double Bind.
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A double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, and one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will automatically be wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation.
Double bind theory was first described by Gregory Bateson and his colleagues in the 1950s.[1]
Double binds are often utilized as a form of control without open coercion—the use of confusion makes them both difficult to respond to as well as to resist.[2]
A double bind generally includes different levels of abstraction in the order of messages and these messages can either be stated explicitly or implicitly within the context of the situation, or they can be conveyed by tone of voice or body language. Further complications arise when frequent double binds are part of an ongoing relationship to which the person or group is committed.[3][4]
Double bind theory is more clearly understood in the context of complex systems and cybernetics because human communication and the mind itself function in an interactive manner similar to ecosystems. Complex systems theory helps us to understand the interdependence of the different parts of a message and provides an ordering in what looks like chaos.
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This is the essence of enforced two party systems, like western political practice and us vs them enemy/friend labeling. to confuse the natural system in the human that is designed to seek singular coherent solutions and paths.
This is part of why some of the US states are looking at outlawing third parties in political contests as it offers a way out of a purposely created double bind.
Reinforcement is constant across all political spectrum, political conduct and corporate control of the interface systems like newspapers, and so on.
double bind consciousness is constantly being reinforced via the empowerment and overt publication and aggrandizement of sporting contests and systems, via their prominence and elevation in said systems of double bind communications systems.
All of human society and culture is being literally 'gamed', just below the consciousness threshold, regarding how the mind sorts, collates, and utilizes -- data input and output.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
What this means, is that there will be an enforced contest between the double bind of Hillary and Jeb bush.
That is the probable contest that will be put in front of the public, and a third 'safety' a contingency may be put aside, readied and prepped..., and possibly enacted IF they think that people will accept a 'new road'. Possibly, this may be done for both parties.
In a continual double bind for decades, the people of the US may chose what looks like a clear choice, a 'new road'.
We shall see.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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Carmody
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Silkie
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bogeyman
If pressed he will reverse his statements and batter it down or "debunk it"...
That is how all psychopaths speak. They constantly say things which they then reverse. They can contradict themselves even within the same sentence, while their paragraphs are masterpieces of double-speak. This is a known feature of psychopathic "communication".
an addition: Non-psychopathic people do this sometimes, too, of course, but a psychopath does it all the time**, especially when pressed for the truth. Colloquially it is known as
weaseling.
**This is because psychopaths are pathological liars. When almost everything a person says is a lie, they are bound to "weasel" a lot!
it is called :
The Double Bind.
double bind is an emotionally distressing dilemma in communication in which an individual (or group) receives two or more conflicting messages, and one message negates the other. This creates a situation in which a successful response to one message results in a failed response to the other (and vice versa), so that the person will automatically be wrong regardless of response. The double bind occurs when the person cannot confront the inherent dilemma, and therefore can neither resolve it nor opt out of the situation.
Double bind theory was first described by Gregory Bateson and his colleagues in the 1950s.[1]
Double binds are often utilized as a form of control without open coercion—the use of confusion makes them both difficult to respond to as well as to resist.[2]
A double bind generally includes different levels of abstraction in the order of messages and these messages can either be stated explicitly or implicitly within the context of the situation, or they can be conveyed by tone of voice or body language.
Further complications arise when frequent double binds are part of an ongoing relationship to which the person or group is committed.[3][4]
Double bind theory is more clearly understood in the context of complex systems and cybernetics because human communication and the mind itself function in an interactive manner similar to ecosystems. Complex systems theory helps us to understand the interdependence of the different parts of a message and provides an ordering in what looks like chaos.
(my emphasis)
In my experience, the double bind is another, different aspect of psychopathic behavior than pathological lying and weaseling, but it is even more emotionally distressing and destructive.
When the psychopath contradicted himself, I was conscious of what he was doing, could pin it down, and logically refute him, if I could catch him in time.
But when he double-bound me, all I was aware of was intense confusion, inner turmoil, and anxiety, plus the feeling that I had done something very wrong and that I was going to be punished for it, and that I had to apologize profusely and humble myself before him by confessing to how much I hated myself and how grateful I was for his love and guidance (which I did, often in long emails, or by falling to the floor at his feet and sobbing, or by...). In my experience, double binds are much harder to unravel logically than mere weaseling because of their meta-communication aspect. Weaseling is distressing, too, of course, but not like double-binding.
I thank you so much for this post :) Posts like this are invaluable to me.
p.s. In the video clip, I do not think what Obama is doing is double-binding because the interviewer could have said, "But Mr. President, you just said..." if he had been quick enough. You can't do that in a double bind because of the meta-communication aspect of double-binding. In a double-bind, the contradiction is hidden within the communication. Sometimes what makes it a double-bind is simply body-language...something I experienced too many times to count. Double-binds are nested, like Russian Dolls. Mere contradictory statements are not.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
an IQ of 100, ie the average cannot process fast enough to see the scope of an evolving and shaped double bind. sensitivity to these systems of control awareness of these systems is very IQ or speed of processing dependent, and also tied to the size of the capacity to carry data.
Which is what makes educating people on such matters so difficult.
In another thread, I spoke of watching Space x's rocket crash on it's platform.
I formulated a perfected fix from known technologies, in about 15 minutes. It turns out the landing problem was not even remotely tied to my solution, but something else altogether. However, if their problem was solved, for their own landing solution, it seems their landing solution would still be exceedingly difficult and very prone to failing in it's task. Mine is perfected and entirely functional. 1-2-5-10 years, vs 15 minutes.
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Around the turn of the millennium, a member of the unbelievably brilliant Prometheus society published one of the most interesting and important articles in the history of psychology, and amazingly, virtually no one has ever read it. The article asserted that problem solving speed doubles every 10 IQ points. The Promethean would later go on to revise the figure to every 5 points. Yes, reaction time (information processing speed) has a beautifully Gaussian distribution, but because the human mind operates in parallel, an IQ 105 is not 5% smarter than an IQ of 100, but rather twice as smart! And an IQ of 110 is four times smarter! Although the Promethean never put it in those terms, this inference was based upon the fact that no matter how cognitively homogeneous a classroom, the difference in learning speed is always at least an order of magnitude. Think back to your high school math class. The brightest kid in the class grasped what the teacher was talking about in seconds, while the dullest may take all year.
https://brainsize.wordpress.com/2014...-intelligence/
What I'm saying is the double bind is dripped into the record. And then manipulated, so it comes up as a backdrop in the day to day life and reflections in motional cognition. Some psychologists may argue over it like labeling scotch whiskeys (like kids agonizing over the character of individual marbles) as all being different .....but in essence they are all human toxins of the alcohol family.
The reason the psychologists label all the components as being distinctly different, is due to their cognitive limits being approached and they can't easily discern the meta shape and meta patterns of the data envelope, just like the child at their particular age related scope limits, in characterizing each individual marble.
The general public is the same, and are thus fooled easily, as the overall pattern recognition systems and ancillary cognition aspects are not as highly developed.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
My intuition is that he is telling the truth. In short:
- we (they) are under alien control - true!
- US presidents are told to lie about ET matters - true!
- he cant reveal anything (because is just a servant of evil Archons) - true!
The fact that he was commenting that much is quite surprising. You know, I dont think that Kimmel is allowed to ask ANYTHING big that has not been aproved beforehand.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
Yes and children raised with parents using a lot double bind language have a higher rate of schizophrenia. So we now know in which mental state the world population is. We are made to get mentally sick and unable to discern the truth.
Add to this the chmtrail spraying, the Monsanto food, the electro magnetic pollution plus micro waves and radioactivity, it is a miracle some of us can still function at all. .
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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Arak
My intuition is that he is telling the truth. In short:
- we (they) are under alien control - true!
- US presidents are told to lie about ET matters - true!
- he cant reveal anything (because is just a servant of evil Archons) - true!
The fact that he was commenting that much is quite surprising. You know, I dont think that Kimmel is allowed to ask ANYTHING big that has not been aproved beforehand.
I think Obama is full of ****.
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
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Silkie
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Posted by
Arak
My intuition is that he is telling the truth. In short:
- we (they) are under alien control - true!
- US presidents are told to lie about ET matters - true!
- he cant reveal anything (because is just a servant of evil Archons) - true!
The fact that he was commenting that much is quite surprising. You know, I dont think that Kimmel is allowed to ask ANYTHING big that has not been aproved beforehand.
I think Obama is full of ****.
Just a puppet...
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Re: Obama on Aliens: is he telling the truth, or joking?
It's only logical that Kimmel isn't allowed to ask anything that isn't approved of before hand. That's why ranking politicians are so seldom asked difficult questions except by other politicians. Notice the uproar anytime a difficult question is posed to an incumbent. When there isn't an uproar, the subject is simply dropped in short order. It isn't necessarily that so many pundits are bought, which they generally are, but that even when their conscience demands it they still can't be confrontational. Don't forget the time Obama was called a liar on national TV and the huge uproar that caused. Most of us knew it to be a candid moment, but it couldn't be allowed by the mainstream.