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This is terrible first of all, whatever happened down there. This will probably lead to more restrictions and serveillance. Not to familiar with french law, but maybe more gun control.
I'm not a fan of guns, but if people were allowed to carry guns for self protection they might have been able to stop this guy.
There is no need for more fear though, there is need for more love
From # 20....We have been here many times over the decades , this isQuote:
This is terrible first of all, whatever happened down there. This will
probably lead to more restrictions and serveillance. Not to familiar with french
law, but maybe more gun control.
I'm not a fan of guns, but if people were allowed to carry guns for self protection
they might have been able to stop this guy.
There is no need for more fear though, there is need for more love
a trusted format and meme.......
Hollywood style! US Commentator // Crisis Actors // UK Police Stage Counter-Terror Training Exercise in London?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...856#post975856
This attack maybe staged like many others , or a lone patsy , or even a genuine
opportunist ? the most unlikely but not impossible. This is 'Theatre' so anything
is possible. As we know don't just listen to mainstream but look at the bigger
strategic picture ' war on terror' be afraid , give up your rights voluntarily and
we will 'protect you' and this event ties into that imo.......
Another thing most of these events have in common is that none of these
attacks , murders , terror attacks ever benefit the 'supposed perpetrators'
but do benefit other nefarious players and parties ie funding for security ,
mil ind complex and creating control memes. Order out of chaos , an age
old strategy......
'Problem Reaction Sollution'
7/7 London Terror Drills go LIVE
Uploaded on 7 May 2010
DRILLS were running, just like on 9/11/01 that were eerily similar to the actual
events, loooong odds of this occurrence approach the astronomical improbability of
the Douglass Adams "Babble Fish"
'ALWAYS COINCDENCE '
Reed Elsevier 7/7 drills: 'spooky coincidence' Peter Power Visor Consultants on CBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqOba9et0lY
7/7 London bombings - Terrorist exercise Peter Power - Cover up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhO-ghltVQ
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A previous thread we have been here before and will again until the real
perpetrators are exposed jailed or removed from power and influance
which may or may not be impossible depending who they really are.....
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War on Terror! Steve Hughes - it's funny cause it's true. // Believe in Conspiracies? D.Icke ...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...racies-D.Icke-...
The 'War On Terror ' is BS and just a continuation of the 'Cold War' , ' The Troubles'
in Northern Ireland and many other flash points around the world varying from
civil strife developing into conflicts against tyranny of one type or another. The other
type of manipulated war or regional conflict are 'False flags' which we know has a
very long history. The problem is the perpetrators of these events overwhelmingly
own the mainstream media and is one of the reasons they have gotten away with
this for centuries. There are genuine acts of violence and dissent against authority
and some wars may have accidently or genuinely happened. But the more we find
out most conflicts are manipulated and financed by shadowy organisations that
really run the world.......
There are few ways to question authority , but a time honoured way is thru humour.
For a brief period in the last century or so the press did try to hold criminal activity
in government or society . But over the past 50 years or more the Corporate world
has bought up much of the mainstream media and the ' free press ' and news media
has got even more controlled and censored . The web has changed this and opened
up more information , but that has also brought in a wide spectrum both good and
bad with plenty of 'trolls' and dis info information going on. The 'elites ' are fighting
back and there are many trying to ban conspiracy and free thought that is not
vetted and controlled by 'Big brother' etc.....
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Steve Hughes - its funny cause its true.
This Aussie comedian hits the nail on the head regarding "terrorism". There's nothing
more moronic than going to war against a concept.
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In a Youtube videocast, author and researcher David Icke questioned the potential
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In the video, David Icke examines a speech made by the PM in 2014 at the UN
General Assembly in which Cameron said:
THE PEDDLING OF LIES: THAT 9/11 WAS A JEWISH PLOT OR THAT THE 7/7
LONDON ATTACKS WERE STAGED. THE IDEA THAT MUSLIMS ARE PERSECUTED
ALL OVER THE WORLD AS A DELIBERATE ACT OF WESTERN POLICY. THE CONCEPT
OF AN INEVITABLE CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS.
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BBC Panorama: London Under Attack (the show that predicted 7/7)Drills & Deception !! 7/7 Ripple Effect 2
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...829#post708829
Ludicrous Diversion - 7/7 London Bombings // call for independent enquiry, Tony Gosling // Blair: How I heard about 7/7
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eard-about-7-7
Hollywood style! US Commentator // Crisis Actors // UK Police Stage Counter-Terror Training Exercise in London?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...856#post975856
In 1958 Edward Meier wrote a till letter of predictions and snt it to 18 countries all across Europe , warning of the rise of radical Islam ... foretelling the fall of France , and the spreading of terrorism all over the world ... the coming of cell phones, computers, the Internet, plastic credit cards, the two Iraq wars the second led by the son of a former President. .. he has given predictions that go far into the future, up until the death of our sun ... check out the event timeline on the futureofmankind.uk. ... if not stopped terrorism will spread all around the world...
Hi cursichella,
It could quite possibly be an attack to tell France to stay in the failing EU.
But the Kharzarian Mafia and the Cabal are getting desperate. But the EU will fail.
France will Fraxit.
Hi Snoweagle,
This is the Khazarian Mafia and the Cabal. Not necessarily the Freemasons?
But this has Bibi's bloody hands all over it, just like the last attack.
I was just in Nice, and it was so quiet. I thought I was dreaming when I woke up to this. Seems very strategic to hit one of the main European holiday destinations right in the middle of summer on a "special" day.
What a difference a day makes..................
Boris booed at French embassy speech yesterday....
Published on 14 Jul 2016
boris johnson is booed at the french embassy
Boris Johnson loudly booed as he tried to reassure the audience
at the French Embassy in London
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6SLXZrJytA
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Nice attack: UK must redouble efforts on terror - May
1 hour ago
From the section UK
short vid on link..http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36801346
Theresa May: "We must redouble our efforts to defeat these brutal murderers"
Theresa May says the UK must redouble its efforts to defeat terrorism, as she
condemned "brutal murderers" behind "horrifying" attacks like that in Nice.
The prime minister said Britain stood "shoulder to shoulder" with France after
a lorry drove into a crowd killing at least 84 and injuring 50.
Downing Street says a "small number" of Britons were injured in Nice.
The attack was of "an undeniable terrorist nature", French President Francois Hollande has said.
UK police forces are reviewing security at major events over the next week.
meeting has been called of senior officials in the government's emergency
Cobra committee to see what Britain can do to help, Mrs May said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36801346
As the world becomes more open... the more holes open up, the more avenues for malfeasance open up.
This can only happen when you've got a hidden oligarchy class that is at war with one another and the public masses.
As we come to a point of commonality across the globe, the greater the damage that can be done to and through the sum total -by a given avenue and act.
This is both obvious in retrospect and needs be said.
The thought is that autodriving vehicles are to be perfected via small individual vehicle testing (most miles traveled) and then implemented wholesale in large trucks, by mandated law.
Oddly enough, the large trucks would be more safe...... but possibly (probably) more vulnerable to attack and takeover of their controls.
As for trucks being driven through crowds, this could happen anywhere, in any big city, in Asia, Europe, North America, and South America. Any major city, on almost a daily basis.
I know of many a place (and so do you) where massive vehicles have been in places where they could have driven over hundreds of people. It is a situation that is encountered at any given concert venue, for example, or large trade show, or sports game. The chance or opportunity for such a situation exists, in the many hundreds of locales all over the globe, every day.
The so-called terrorist is irrelevant in such scenarios ---as it keeps happening. It means we have to deal with the depth of the situation that places a given person behind a given wheel of a given truck. And that means finding the hidden layers of the situation, not the surface layers proposed by major media and politicians involved with that media. As their solutions never lead to anything but that which benefits hidden oligarchy. An oligarchy which is responsible for the mess, due to their gaming and game playing with the globe and it's population.
Which the so-called alternative media and alternative news, alternative theorists, they have the truth of the situation in hand, for the most part. They have in mind and hand ..and point directly to ...the lever by which the enabling of such people (terrorism enabled by hidden oligarchy) comes into being.
Nice attack: truck driver named as France mourns 84 killed in Bastille Day atrocity
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Investigators continue to work at the scene near the heavy truck that ran into a crowd at high speed killing scores who were celebrating the Bastille Day July 14 national holiday on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, France, July 15, 2016. © Eric Gaillard / Reuters
1h ago 13:18
What we know so far
The attack
- A large truck ploughed into crowds celebrating Bastille Day in the southern French city of Nice at about 11pm local time on Thursday. At least 84 people were killed, including several children. A further 18 were seriously injured.
- Witnesses said the driver swerved from side to side to apparently kill as many people as possible as he drove at about 30mph for just over a mile along the Promenade des Anglais on the seafront. One witness said the driver fired a gun at police before they killed him.
- Two Americans, Sean Copeland and his son Brodie, from Texas, have been named among the 84 victims. Another victim has named by her son as Fatima Charrihi. He said she “followed a moderate Islam”.
The suspect
- Witnesses told of parents frantically throwing their children over fences to avoid them being struck by the lorry as people rushed down the promenade.
- Police shot the driver of the truck dead. Investigators are trying to determine if he had accomplices. The incident is being treated as a terrorist attack, but no group has claimed responsibility.
- The police have named the suspect as 31-year-old French Tunisian Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, after his identity papers were found in the truck. Police investigators and forensic experts entered his apartment around 9.30am (0730 GMT) with an armed police intervention unit in support, and brought out bags of material later.
- French media reported that the killer was known to police for petty crime, and was not on any terrorist watchlist.
French government response
- Nice’s regional president, Christian Estrosi, said guns and grenades, some of them fake, were found in the lorry.
- The French president, François Hollande, said the country’s state of emergency would be extended for another three months. He said the country’s borders were being tightened, and vowed that France would show “real force and military action in Syria and Iraq”.
- Hollande also announced three days of national mourning starting on Saturday.
- A military operation is in place allowing the mobilisation of 10,000 troops.
- The interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said: “We are at war with terrorists who want to strike us at any cost and who are extremely violent.”
- The prime minister, Manuel Valls, said: “Terrorism is a threat that is weighing heavily on France. Times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism. We have to show solidarity and collective calm.”
- Later, Hollande arrived in Nice to chair an emergency security and defence meeting in Nice with Valls and Cazeneuve.
International response
- The Front National leader, Marine Le Pen, has used the attack to score political points against the French government’s response to terrorism. “Nothing that we have proposed has been put in place,” she said.
- World leaders including Barack Obama, Angela Merkel, Xi Jinping and Mariano Rajoy, have condemned the attack.
- Germany and Italy have ordered tighter border controls with France.
Britain’s response
- The attacks have also been condemned by religious and political leaders across the Muslim and Arab world. The Egyptian president, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, described it as a “vile terrorist attack”. Arab League chief Ahmed Abul Gheit denounced the “craven terrorist attack”.
- Britain’s new prime minister, Theresa May, said: “The United Kingdom stands shoulder to shoulder with France, as we have done so often in the past. If, as we fear, this was a terrorist attack, then we must redouble our efforts to defeat these brutal murderers who want to destroy our way of life.”
- A small number of British citizens are known to be among the injured. Britain’s ambassador to France has travelled to Nice as officials offer help to anyone caught up in the attack.
Updated at 2.34pm BST
- The National Police Chiefs’ Council has ordered a security review of all major events in Britain over the next seven days. Britain’s deputy national security adviser has chaired a meeting of the government’s emergency committee Cobra. London’s mayor, Sadiq Khan, has announced he will be reviewing safety measures in the UK capital.
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Suspect named
The police have named the suspect as 31-year-old Franco-Tunisian Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, after his identity papers were found in the truck, AFP reports.
Neighbours portrayed him as a solitary figure who rarely spoke and did not even return greetings when their paths crossed in the four-storey block, located in a working-class neighbourhood of Nice.
Sebastien, a neighbour who spoke on condition that his full name was not used, said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel did not seem overtly religious, often dressed in shorts and sometimes wore work boots.
He had a van parked nearby and owned a bike, which he brought up into his first-floor apartment.
Of those who were interviewed, only one, a neighbour on the ground floor, said she had had any concerns about him - he was “a good-looking man who kept giving my two daughters the eye.”
Police investigators and forensic experts entered his apartment around 9.30am (0730 GMT) with an armed police intervention unit in support, and brought out bags of material later.
A source close to the investigation said an “inactive” grenade was found inside the vehicle, as well as “several fake rifles.”
“Investigations are currently underway to establish if the individual acted alone or if he had accomplices who might have fled,” interior ministry spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet said.
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What's that saying... ""You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that: it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel "?Quote:
The French president, François Hollande, said the country’s state of emergency would be extended for another three months.
... because, so far, the only connection to terrorism I can fathom is that of a suicidal Germanwings pilot nose diving into a mountain side... and that's one of a psychopath bent on taking down as many people with him as can be.
Just listened to public prosecutor Francois Molins , Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
was known to local police and was given a six month prison sentence on 24th
March 2016 , I presume it was suspended or he was released early ?
Attack in Nice: Paris prosecutor updates the press on the attacker
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French prosecutor updates victim numbers
BreakingWhat do French authorities say about the attacker?
Posted at 08:42
French prosecutor Francois Molins revealed the following:
• The attacker Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel was born on 3 January 1975 in Tunisia,
with domicile in Nice
• He worked a chauffeur and delivery man
• He was married and had children.
• His ex-wife has been detained by police
• Bouhlel was known by the police and legal system because of threats, violence
and petty theft between 2010 and 2016
• He had been condemned on 24 March 2016, and been sentenced by a court,
there was a prison sentence of six months for voluntary violence with a weapon in
January 2016
• Secret services are not aware that he had ever shown any sign of radicalisation
• Digital material which has been seized is being investigated, as well as the mobile
phone found in the lorry
What the attacker did
Posted at 08:19
French prosecutor Francois Molins has also confirmed other details:
• He said the lorry was rented on 11 July, and was due back on the 13th
• Inside the cabin, there were automatic fire weapons, two Kalashnikov rifles,
bullets and a grenade. Earlier reports had suggested the weapons were fakes
• A mobile phone, a driver's licence and bank details were also found
• The lorry was a 19-tonne vehicle
BreakingFrench prosecutor confirms identity of attacker
Posted at 08:15
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel has been confirmed as the driver of the lorry involved
in the Nice attack by the french prosecutor Francois Molins.
Posted at 08:08
France prosecutor Francois Molins has spoken to the press. He said: "We deplore
the death of 84 people.
"202 were injured including 52 who are now in critical care - with 25 of those in
intensive care.
"I would also like to pay tribute to all state services who were mobilised following this attack."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36799172
A matter of perspective/viewpoint:
For Western countries, such occurrences have enough jolt to create a "tragedy" response whereas in other regions of the planet, similar occurrences have become life's daily events... like in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine... where any celebration is an excuse for bombings... you know... like weddings...
So that the fear virus of "Anyone! Anywhere! Anytime!" is being inoculated/injected into the whole of the population of this planet as a matter of daily life, like police brutalities, random drive-by shootings or "lone psychos" going postal.
There is something about these "desensitizing" inoculations in order to overcome populations' allergies best described with that quote attributed to Stalin:
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A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.
‘Thanks, M. Valls’: Social media furious over PM’s ‘France will have to live with terrorism’ comment
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Lavrov and Kerry Honor Nice Attack Victims
UK: British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson condemns Nice attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aflo4_NMjS0
Germany: Federal ministries respond to Nice Bastille Day attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkUfqHDCqHU
Belgium: "We are all today with the French people" - EU's Schulz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUFEW81-Yx4
Russia: Muscovites pay respects at French embassy following Nice attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HughiiPWrK0
Russia: Patriarch Kirill leads the Holy Synod in Nice victims’ tribute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s44r2EGvdx8
US president Barack Obama reacts on Nice attack: "our hearts are with the people of France"
likely he was recruited THEN ?Quote:
Just listened to public prosecutor Francois Molins , Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
was known to local police and was given a six month prison sentence on 24th
March 2016 , I presume it was suspended or he was released early ?
Maybe he knew what was going to happen because the ones revealing that future to him were the ones orchestrating it and the revelation (and we believing it) is part of their execution.Quote:
Posted by ghostrider
So is the world going to end or is it not going to end? A question you can't help asking these days.
and we now have at least one major newspaper saying that the driver was not a Muslim, at all.
drug taker, drinker, wife beater, never went to the mosque, ever.
'He drank alcohol, ate pork and took drugs. He was NOT a Muslim - he was a s***'
There goes the "send another 10,000 troops into the fray, so that we can live with terrorism forever" game, dissolved into a poofed-busted balloon fizzle....
As said before, hundreds of trucks in such position and possibility, every day, all over the world.
ie, a sociopath, that due to circumstance and life scenario....that popped/blew his own sanity check-valves.... and just happened to be from that part of the world.
It is just that... he may have been taken advantage of, or the situation used.... for darker purposes. We Know that already, but the newspaper involved ...seems to be trying to tear the thing apart, with regard to people calling it a directed middle-east originated terror attack.
Yeah right, when learn these terrorists NOT to carry ID's??Quote:
Posted by TigaHawk
So every time an ID is found, I know it's all BS.
That started already at 911.
Truck driver rampage story has a glaring hole.
Once again Jim Stone has his take on this. Similar to their opinions on a staged incident...
Can't get a decent paste for the article so just the link. Maybe someone with a few skills can get the article up as I don't seem to have them.
http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamer...eethisai1.html
The article linked-to by Carmody, there, also give some indications that he wasn't in any sort of "right mind" beside being a boozer and drug addict:
... all that after a brush with jail time, for assault, which makes me wonder what kind of antidepressant he was on that exacerbated the suicidal action?Quote:
He worked as a delivery driver, but is believed to have been fired recently after falling asleep at the wheel and crashing into four vehicles on a highway.
But he separated from wife Hajer some two years ago following a series of violent arguments, and he was said to have been depressed in recent months as their divorce had been finalised.
In any case that article, although suggesting he wasn't a Muslim, heavily pounds on the association "truck terrorist"... not "truck psychopath" or "truck SSRI-soaked"... check it out: have a word count for terrorist, terror, terrified, etc... in that article...
While I am at it with words and their usage:
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... he separated from wife Hajer...
Since he doesn't have custody of their kids, it seems truer that his wife separated from him... no?