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The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.
He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.
This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.
It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.
Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)
I noticed, despite all his facts, he had a very obvious bias within his thinking that favoured his facts quite dramatically in the way it was presented.
Isreali's did this, did that, but in the same time period the Palastinian's did nothing. (sub-human, incapable)
However he ignores all the geopolitical history of the region and all the 'big players' that had such a strong influence on shaping the region. The actual peoples were mere pawns.
Why might the Jews have been accorded such favouritism that the entire Western world, politically, can see no wrong in their policies/actions? Might there be a 'hidden hand'? There are plenty theories about that.
The sheer fact that no Western mainstream commentator mentions the uncanny similarlty to a progrom in the treatment of Palastinians today as we witnessed, historically, in the 2nd World War against today's perpetrators.
Irony?
I sensed a large amount of bias also, but, what he did say especially pertaining to the historical aspect of the video was for the most part quite accurate and informative. No one side is ever completely innocent, that has surely been proven throughout history. This video is just an interesting perspective from one Israeli, peppered with some historical facts.
I'm waiting for someone to actually mention anything relating to how all these fighters so easily crossed the border on October 7th and actually had so much time to do what they did. I'm also waiting to hear an explanation as to why it took so long for the IDF to actually respond. Many of these fighters actually had plenty of time to wander around slaughtering many and then had even more time to get back across the border unchallenged with large groups of hostages.
What may have led up to something like October 7th is one thing, but how October 7th actually happened is another, like I said, no one side is ever completely innocent. Every time someone in the media even slightly brings up why the border was so easily breeched by so many, the subject is immediately changed, and they are told now is not the time for that, the time now is to crush Hamas.
Nothing is as they say it is anymore, it's all just more deception, manipulation, and insanity.
15th October 2023 20:50
Ernie Nemeth
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
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The Israeli man in this video explains the Palestinian narrative, the Israeli narrative, the history of the Land of Israel, the problems that have led up to the events happening now, and what might be the only way to peace.
He challenges everyone to prove him wrong.
This is a well put together video and I can't prove him wrong and believe me I've tried, but just can't find any facts to prove him wrong.
It's 28 minutes long but is quite informative and interesting and had my attention all the way through it.
Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)
Interesting take on the region. References to the bible and quaran lent emphasis to his main argument.
I have bookmarked some of his claims in my mind and waiting for any verification I might run across.
On that note, I am listening right now to Jay Dyer on InfoWars about the topic. An entirely different take, focusing in on the British influence even in the 18th century. Not much for a deep dive into the history of the region. Whether the Arabs have a claim to the land, where the word Palestine came from, or even how the Jews have been systematically erased from many Arab nations in recent decades (not to mention the Christians).
Later on, Dyer also emphasizes the role of the Fabian society and Sufiism.
Good framework for further study.
15th October 2023 20:51
ExomatrixTV
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The Mystery Of Israel - Solved? (Best Quality!)
quote: "The film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true.
This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.
The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel.
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
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I thought that Rabbi Richman's comment just after the 5:00 minute mark was interesting - seems to support Rabbi Finklestein's views on the goyim as well. I think this is a minority pov in that community, as are the extreme ideologies in the Christian and Muslim communities.
'More Israeli Voices Speak Out - Hamas Attack Inside Job. It is hard to fathom that for some reason someone no doubt deep state actors have an agenda to inflame the entire Middle East. But sad to say many innocent lives are lost as a result of this concocted attack. Will the truth ever be told?'
Thanks! At 16:00 the video shows an unbelievable letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx. Sounds like where Klaus Schwab of the WEF got his agenda.
I looked it up online and here it is. Hard to believe it's real, some internet links claimed it is a hoax, but I will appreciate any confirmation or otherwise about the authenticity.
"1879 letter from Baruch Levy to Karl Marx:
The Jewish people as a whole will be its own messiah. It will attain world dominion by the
dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy, and by
the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the
privilege of citizenship. In this new world order the children of Israel will furnish all the
leaders without encountering opposition. The governments of the different peoples forming
the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be
possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property, and everywhere to make use of
the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is
said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
world in their hands."
This is consistent with, if not right of, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion, which I am currently rereading.
15th October 2023 21:03
Michel Leclerc
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Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”
15th October 2023 21:04
ExomatrixTV
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There's been such a bombardment of imagery - a veritable deluge - that one has found oneself being even more careful than usual in attempting to discern true imagery from manufactured imagery - the 'message' - and I have over two decades of experience of doing that, and usually get my observations spot-on.
So, what I post here is a snippet from a Twitter thread that may be worthy of consideration in discerning more carefully still image sources for the narrative. This example here suggests that some footage, that purported to be from the Negev desert festival, may in fact have been sourced from an earlier Bruno Mars concert in Tel Aviv, two days earlier.
Meanwhile, a deafening silence of the so-called "Fact Checkers" hired by the biggest social media platforms to censorreal research.
If they continue to ignore REAL IMPORTANT FACT-CHECKING, they are complicit pushing false narratives which can lead to thousands of innocent people needlessly being killed ... Just like what happened in IRAQ ... No "fact checking" during the assumed "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in Iraq (LIE!) coming with an alleged "Mushroom Cloud" (LIE!) and the Kuwait "Baby Incubators" (LIE!) at the U.N. speech all of that and more led to slaughter of millions!
Big Government & Big Media LIES can have huge consequences, meanwhile "fact-checkers sites" focus mostly on those who try to expose Government & Big Media lies. They are just an extension of the massive corruption & deceit.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
15th October 2023 22:00
Dorjezigzag
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Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”
Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.
Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp. Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.
Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.
Do you really think that authorities do not use this kind of analysis to formulate their narratives as well? They need to use the stories with maximum manipulative effect.
Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.
15th October 2023 22:23
Bill Ryan
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Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.
Mod note from Bill:
Dear Friends, we may all need to remember, if and when we can, that emotions and tensions are running quite high, perhaps not only individually but among many millions of people everywhere right now. It's all rather a swirling storm, in which it's not always easy to keep one's balance and remain totally unaffected.
Do please see my personal post here (and the half dozen replies that follow) on The Support Thread. That may be interesting to many, and any members reading this are more than welcome to share their thoughts and feelings there.
:grouphug: :focus:
15th October 2023 22:25
Michel Leclerc
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One more Isreali voice from a kibbutz who testifies that for hours on end they had no help from the IDF during the Hamas attack.
This young woman is intelligent and wise, Isreal needs a prime minister like her now.
It’s been widely reported that the Egyptian government shared numerous warnings with Israel about the impending Hamas attack across the Gaza border. But now it appears the U.S. government was also aware in advance that Hamas was planning something substantial.
Guest host Craig Jardula and Kurt Metzger talk to Due Dissidence hosts Keaton Weiss and Russell Dobula about the burning question of whether the Netanyahu government was aware an attack was in the offing and did nothing to stop it.
15th October 2023 22:55
Michel Leclerc
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Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”
Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.
Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp. Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.
Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.
Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.
Sorry Dorjezigzag, I cannot heed your order not to react within the thread. Allow me to be my own judge on that.
Propp is a mostly formalist (you will appreciate the pun I suppose) and ultimately reductionist approach to the study of tales which has its value but which is not applicable to dreams for instance. Reading a film as if it were a tale is like explaining a car as if it were a bicycle. You cannot explain the complex by the simple.
I do not wish to derail this thread into a discussion among narratologists. My point was and is however that psychoanalysis is, although interestingly relevant for the study of horror film as such, essential to the study of the intent of viewers of the horror film (in ways in which Propp is not).
The depth-psychological study of what goes on in the horror movie viewer’s psyche is therefore, and moreover, of direct relevance to what goes on in the psyche of people who see real or staged horror videos of war and military conflict. And that fact makes my point valuable for the topic of this thread. People are already, and will increasingly become aware of "false" videographic and photographic documents about the beginning of the drama. Yet those who are easily overcome by bloodlust will ignore this evidence.
(I would prefer to end our discussion there. I am under the impression that we are talking about two quite different things.)
15th October 2023 23:49
Dorjezigzag
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Thank you Dorjezigzag. You persist in your fairytale interpretation of such movies, which is your right of course. I disagree: they are not fairytales by any measure. Listening to a fairytale no child wants to be the big bad wolf. The characters in such movies think that their life is a fairytale, but the audience watching the film indulges in the fantasy of being the wolf. And their denial afterwards is the tell-tale sign of their guilt on a deeper level. By now one should expect at least the readiness to apply the psychoanalytical interpretative techniques to the reading of cultural products. It is only when one reads them like that that there is any relevance of horror movies to what is happening in Palestine. Not for nothing have a few observers already spoken of an aura of "staged"-ness around several photographs. Reality imitates art; Stockhausen called 9/11 a work of art. It is by priming the public with a vicarious, penalty-free opportunity to indulge in a gore spree that one awakens what I have called the "cannibalistic impulse”. (I might also refer to the by now well-known horror raiding chimpanzees value so highly. “Finally we can be chimpanzees again!”) When volunteers left enlightened Europe to participate in the assaults on Syria, one young Dutchman said in an interview something like this: “Finally I can live out in reality what I have only been doing gaming on the computer.”
Im not going to get into an argument with you but you really need to do some research before you are so disrespectful. You are not even trying to understand my perspective. How many times do I have to tell you I am not celebrating horror films I am just pointing out the similarities with this event to manipulative horror conventions. If we are to understand the nature of the narratives of these events we need to look at the structure of narrative conventions that has evolved in popular culture.
Just to be clear I used to be a lecturer in film at university and work in the film and television industry. so I know what I talking about. Most movie studios before green-lighting a film will put it through an analysis based on the work of Joseph Campbell who was influenced by the work of Vladimir Propp. Both of whom used the study of fairytales and mythology to formulise their theories and perceptions.
Modern psychology that we know today has taken a lot of its structure from the analysis of mythologies and fairytales.
Anyway back to topic and if you want to comment anymore PM me.
Sorry Dorjezigzag, I cannot heed your order not to react within the thread. Allow me to be my own judge on that.
Propp is a mostly formalist (you will appreciate the pun I suppose) and ultimately reductionist approach to the study of tales which has its value but which is not applicable to dreams for instance. Reading a film as if it were a tale is like explaining a car as if it were a bicycle. You cannot explain the complex by the simple.
I do not wish to derail this thread into a discussion among narratologists. My point was and is however that psychoanalysis is, although interestingly relevant for the study of horror film as such, essential to the study of the intent of viewers of the horror film (in ways in which Propp is not).
The depth-psychological study of what goes on in the horror movie viewer’s psyche is therefore, and moreover, of direct relevance to what goes on in the psyche of people who see real or staged horror videos of war and military conflict. And that fact makes my point valuable for the topic of this thread. People are already, and will increasingly become aware of "false" videographic and photographic documents about the beginning of the drama. Yet those who are easily overcome by bloodlust will ignore this evidence.
(I would prefer to end our discussion there. I am under the impression that we are talking about two quite different things.)
Why are you constantly trying to reduce my argument to 'its just about fairytales', yes that is one element, but my article was about so much more than that. For instance how terror is used to induce shock and trauma and how to maximise this effect. The focus on youth and sexuality. All very much psychological manipulations.
How about rather than trying to pick holes in my article and cherry pick points taking them out of context while ignoring others you actually write one yourself?
To get back on topic I am going to share a short story now. my own personal experience about why I can particularly relate to these events. Stories have great meaning.
1 THE ECLIPSE
Sometimes in life the boundaries between the world of dreams and the world of waking life become blurred. We see faint patterns and structures in these connections through the ancient stories of myth and fairy tales. The following story is a journey into this realm where all becomes clear once the fog has cleared.
I have spent several years visiting and working in Israel, returning many times to areas up and down the country including Galilee, Jerusalem, Safed (Tsfat) and the Palestinian territories such as Gaza and the west bank.
I had been working the season teaching water sports in Greece with my girlfriend Josephine and we decided we would avoid the harsh UK winter by taking the boat to Israel, she had never visited and I was looking forward to showing her some of the places I had become familiar.
We worked a while in Tel Aviv and then set up a job on the Lebanese border near the town of Nahariyya, but before we travelled there we decided we would visit Jerusalem as I was keen to show the many places of interest in this intense cultural melting pot.
We took in the major attractions in the old city including the wailing wall, the dome on the rock and the church of the holy sepulchre as well as some of the more off the beaten track locations I was aware of from my time living in Jerusalem.
Within the old city there are lots of street juice vendors and after all the walking around the town we decided we would stop at one for some refreshment. There was a bountiful selection, but the Pomegranates looked particularly enticing so we ordered two of them. As we were drinking, I commented, half in fun how we were going to have vivid dreams tonight as it had been my experience with pomegranate juice in the past. I further told her how in folklore and mythology the pomegranate is associated with the underworld, the unconscious and dreams. An example being how Persephone had to remain in the underworld for 6 months of the year because she had eaten 6 pomegranate seeds. That being the cause of winter which we were trying to avoid by being in Israel.
The freshly pressed pomegranate juice was particularly flavourful and energized us to continue exploring the old city for the rest of the day, but as night closed in, we were glad to come home to bed for some much-needed sleep.
That night my comment about the pomegranate juice, half made in jest, had more resonance than we could imagine. My girlfriend had an intensely vivid dream. In the dream there were two detectives, characters reminiscent of Mulder and Scully from the X files show. They are stood over an orrery, which is a mechanical astrological machine. The clockwork planets move around to simulate the movements of the planets in our solar system. In the dream, the Sun, Earth, and Moon are coming into alignment, then as the Moon passes directly behind Earth and into its shadow, the faces of Mulder and Sculley morph into the faces of two Islamic terrorists. There is a feeling of extreme anxiety as she is plunged into darkness and unsurprisingly, she is somewhat distressed and anxious the next day.
We had planned to visit some more sites in Jerusalem on this day, so I tried to up my enthusiasm so as to distract her from her anxiety. Trying to joke and be playful to bring her out of her unease. Anyway, my efforts were not helped when we were harangued on coming out of one of the many churches. If I remember correctly it was on leaving the convent of the sisters of Zion, or at least in that area of the Old city. Our confronter was a young Muslim boy, probably around 10 years old who came up to us and accuses me of carrying a gun earlier, which to us seems ludicrous. Of course, I do not have a gun and never had I reply to him in bafflement and semi amusement. This does not ease the tension and he becomes even more hysterical and adamant that we had a gun and his accusatory voice gets louder and louder. I suggest perhaps he thought that my camera was a gun and show him this, but this does not ease his mania. A crowd starts to form around the hysterical boy and us, and I realised that the boy will not be convinced, so I figured it was time to make a swift exit. As we depart, his loud frantic denunciations continue. The old city with its history of hostilities and tension is not a place you want to be accused of carrying a firearm.
We leave the old city and head towards the church of Gethsemane with its beautiful gardens and wizened trees and the tranquil atmosphere helps us calm down and we start to see the funny side of it all.
After another day of trekking across Jerusalem and taking in so much culture we went to a bar restaurant to wind down and sample some of Jerusalem’s nightlife before we departed to northern Israel the next day. The alcohol and food was much appreciated to lighten the mood and lessen the anxiety. Our spirits were lifted, and we were back in a fun and adventurous mood. Then we notice a story developing on the TV screen showing the news in the background. A high-ranking member of Hamas, the Palestinian terrorist group had been killed that afternoon and the group were looking to enact revenge. Not the best news to hear when we are heading towards the Lebanese border where Hezbollah missiles can be launched into Israel.
We got the bus to our new workplace in Betzit near Nahariyya and we were quite impressed, it was close to the beach and quite beautiful with our living quarters nestled amongst trees. Soon we were settled into a work routine and although the work was quite hard, we liked the nature and surroundings and explored the local area with real admiration A pleasant few days passed, but a noticeable occurrence over those days while we were exploring the surrounding area was that we had a constant companion. An Owl seemed to be following us, wherever we went, flying overhead even during the day. It appeared somewhat distressed and would even swoop down towards us, not attacking, almost in warning and when we settled for overnight sleep it was always close by its warning cries bellowing into the night.
The Ainu in Japan trust the Owl because it gives them notice of evil approaching. In Ancient Greek mythology the Owl was a creature sacred to Athena, Goddess of the night who represented wisdom. Her companion Owl always on her shoulder unless flying on her behalf, revealing unseen truths to her. Around the world in myth and folklore If one saw an owl or heard its hoot, it is seen as a harbinger of bad luck, ill health, or death. The owl was obviously a bit disconcerting but generally we were in quite good spirits and we were enjoying our surroundings. Not only was the partly forested nature beautiful, the ocean and skies were stunning as well. There were incredible sunrises and sunsets and at night the stars were vibrant and clear with little light pollution.
One night we noticed that the moon was full, which was lighting up the night sky, so we decided to head towards the beach. We found a nice spot and laid down on the sand looking up at the beautiful moon and out to sea as it reflected on the ocean like sparkling jewels. It was an enchanted evening, but our tranquillity was broken when we noticed that the moon was disappearing. Soon it became clear that an eclipse of the moon was in process. We both turn from looking at the moon and look at each other in horror, we are both thinking of the same thing, Josephine’s dream. The eclipse that was represented in the dream was occurring in actuality. As the sky darkened by the moon’s disappearance, our mood darkened as well. And on completion of the eclipse we anxiously decided to head back. The return journey was very different to the excitement on making our way to the beach. The now sinister atmosphere deepened by the continued shadowing by our Owl companion, hooting more forebodingly than ever as we journeyed back to our home amongst the trees. Josephine had been concerned about the possibility of being bombed and she had spoken to the locals who had reassured us that the site where we were staying had never been hit. The Katyusha rockets in the rare times they were fired always fell more towards the town which was miles away.
This reassurance was starting to wane after the unexpected experience of the eclipse and its concurrence with the dream. Within folklore and mythology an eclipse is often seen as a portent of doom. The darkening of the sun or moon was believed to be the work of dark forces in the universe that were always present.
According to Norse legend, a giant sky wolf named Skoll chased the moon; his brother, named Hati, chased the sun. If either caught its prey, an eclipse resulted. In Chinese myth, a dragon was trying to eat the moon. The Chinese word for eclipse, "shih," means "to eat." To frighten away the dragon, people shouted and beat drums. In Benin and Togo, West Africa, The Batammaliba people believe that during an eclipse the sun and moon are fighting. The only way to stop the conflict, they believe, is for people on Earth to settle their differences.
There were large trucks that would travel up and down a road that was about 500m from where we were staying, many of them United Nations trucks who had a significant presence in the area. When they hit a hump or potholes, they would make a tremendous crashing sound. This often-put Josephine on edge and I often had to reassure her that it was just a truck. Anyway, we heard a almighty crash and Josephine gave me that look and again I reassured her that it was just a truck, that had almost become like my reflex response. I was not so sure though, then there was another colossal explosion and this time there was no explaining it away.
‘Run to the bomb shelter’ I shouted as we ran outside.
I looked up at the sky and it looked like it was raining fire, Katusha missiles were falling all around us, we could see explosions and fireballs as they hit the ground. Two fell so close that the blast wave knocked us off our feet, everything went into slow motion, our ears ringing from the explosions. I will never forget the look of terror on Josephine’s face as shrapnel flew towards us. Miraculously none of it hit us. Finally, we made it to the bomb shelter where unsurprisingly a few had already arrived as more and more people spewed in. Our friend told us how he was asleep, and a blast threw him out of his bed, which proved fortuitous as shrapnel flew into and destroyed his TV. If he had not been thrown out of his bed, he would have been in the path of the projectiles.
It is always interesting to see different people’s reaction to traumatic experiences; some are energised others become withdrawn. Some lose their sense of humour others exult in exuberant gallows humour. As the bombing died down, we were advised to remain in the bomb shelter for the rest of the night as there was the chance of further waves during the night. We soon set up a video and TV and watched some movies, a mixture of action and horror which I’m sure was totally inappropriate for some people in the grips of trauma. Some of us deepened our bonds that night but for Josephine and me,it was perhaps the beginning of the end, something changed in her through the whole experience.
We spoke often after about how uncanny the series of synchronicities that unfolded over that intense period of time were. How the strange dream with the mechanical eclipse foretold the coming eclipse that we didn’t know was about to occur. How the appearance of the terrorists in the dream after the eclipse mirrored our own experience on that fateful night. The Owl that had been stalking us since arriving in Betzit, continually vocalising an alarm, disappeared from the bombing night onwards, there was no more need to raise a warning. The attack was apparently in revenge for the killing of the Hamas official I spoke of earlier in the story.
Josephine unsurprisingly never felt comfortable after that experience and although we stayed a while longer, we cut our intended stay short and went to stay in Vienna, Austria. It was there a more fortuitist synchronicity would occur.
16th October 2023 00:29
SilentFeathers
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
I told ya'all a couple days ago they'd put a face out there to be our new boogie man!
Ironically this new boogie man lives in luxury, of all places, in Qatar. This is unreal as Qatar is holding the 6 billion dollars promised to Iran that we've heard so much about this last week.
This whole ordeal is starting to look like a poorly written script for the sequel to 911....this video looks like a trailer of the new movie we all are about to see.
Who Leads Hamas? Ismail Haniyeh Emerges As The Public Face Of Israel Attack Despite Being In Qatar
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
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Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which it is
said that when the messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole
world in their hands."
source: [2011] Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great
This is consistent with, if not right of, The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion, which I am currently rereading.
Nowhere in the writings of Karl Marx is there any mention of Baruch Levy and/or his alleged letter.
The Protocols are also a forgery.
First of all, the letter of Albert Pike to Mazzini was a hoax in the sense of trolling the gullible public. For fun and entertainment.
These are a bit more serious, because they are, in fact, political, but more in the sense of fear porn from British Fascism.
The simplest way to put it was by Josef Goebbels who knew a thing or two about propaganda. He said that Hitler believed the Protocols were literally true. Goebbels said they were true in character, but not in facts.
The difficulty is that what can be traced to Babylonian Captivity is the Torah itself. As an example, the Book of Genesis.
Pre-Captivity Hebrew lore would have been Psalms and a few Prophets.
Moving forward is not exactly Zionism, it is religion in the conventional sense.
This is from a longer article, but the reason for British co-intel is explained by the Ghost of Oliver Cromwell:
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In 1290 in England, King Edward l issued the “Edict of Expulsion” which banished Jews from the kingdom. This was not overturned until 1657, over 350 years later by Oliver Cromwell as Lord Protector. Cromwell's protectorate readmitted the Jews to England. Kind of a big deal. Also, a lot of people don't seem to realize Oliver Cromwell was financed by those Jews. The Jews were invited back to England by Cromwell when he needed money after the Civil War. While Cromwell’s weird Puritan fetish for Biblical Israel may have had something to do with it, in inviting back the Jews, Cromwell was mainly motivated by his determination to move the Amsterdam Jewish merchants to London to bolster England in her trade war with Portugal, Spain and the Netherlands, whose Jewish community was famed for its wealth, commercial know-how, and business contacts.
Flip of a switch. Same now as then.
In thinking of the more modern Fabian Society, this would also be correct as an upgrade, that is, formation of a shadow oligarchy via the London School of Economics.
This is right before Theodore Herzl whose article has been posted.
During the Nazi era concentration camps, there was a "solution" being worked in terms of deportation, which would have meant to multiple British and U. S. outlying territories such as the Virgin Islands. When the Zionists got wind of these plans, they turned around and said, oh, no, there is only one destination, Palestine. Understandably this infuriated Hitler.
Correspondingly you look in Ukraine and find a big chunk of the new immigrant population.
So far, in my view it seems like we are witnessing The End of British Israelism, not a special trick it does to become even more successful.
What happens to us in these countries, I am not sure, but it has been spoken of in the past tense since last year.
If it is the Roman plan, you will drop everything and run to Catholicism.
Because Rome still belongs to the Romans, it is less likely to self-destructively explode on the world stage like the Zionists.
The Americans did a lot of things to prevent pacification in this area, not to mention the implementation of the 1947 UN Security Council decision on the creation of an Arab state in Palestine. Therefore, of course, this is a clear manifestation of the fact that there is no longer any Pax Americana, no unipolar world. And now the world is entering a new transition period, towards multipolarity, including through pain, blood and awakening conflicts.
Shift of influence? Fear porn not working so well??
16th October 2023 10:41
Bill Ryan
Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War
An update re Hezbollah (in Lebanon) as of about 9 hours ago. (Things are developing quite quickly. If Hezbollah starts to attack Israel with full force then Israel will be fighting on two fronts.)
Hezbollah said it attacked five Israeli army bases on the border with Lebanon, where the battle is currently taking place.
The IDF deployed artillery and AH-64 Apache attack helicopters. The infiltration of a DRG from Lebanese territory is reported.
Hezbollah shot up IDF cameras and sensors used to monitor the border.
Many Israeli officials are calling on the authorities to attack Hezbollah with full force.
According to Defense Secretary Gallant, Prime Minister Netanyahu is "hesitant."
16th October 2023 10:46
Bill Ryan
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An update re Hezbollah (in Lebanon) as of about 9 hours ago. (Things are developing quite quickly. If Hezbollah starts to attack Israel with full force then Israel will be fighting on two fronts.)
And this seems relevant as well, regarding Israel fighting on two fronts. (Or possibly more, if Iran joins the conflict)
According to a leaked memo, as reported by this media outlet, which I have confirmed through three individuals in US Military, the following is noted.
1) American Troops do not want to die for Israel.
2) CENTCOM was caught off-guard and does not have enough assets to support Israel in case of intervention or conflagration of a regional war
3) CENTCOM does not believe Israel will be able to handle a multi-front war.
16th October 2023 11:03
Rizotto
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The Mystery Of Israel - Solved? (Best Quality!)
quote: "The film exposes something so nefarious, so evil, so mind-blowing that many will find it hard to believe. Yet it is true.
This film can deliver a fatal blow to the satanic elites, who want to establish a world government to enslave all of humanity.
The shocking secrets unveiled by this incredible documentary will shine a blazing light on those who have always been hiding behind the state of Israel.
Britain's The Times demonstrates new levels of manipulation and hypocrisy.
Headline: "Israel shows mutilated babies."
The caption under the photo in small print: "Palestinian children wounded in air strikes on Gaza City".
16th October 2023 11:17
Bill Ryan
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It was an interesting video, BUT -Quote: