This is a fascinating interview! This guy Nathaniel Gillis offers an almost scholarly presentation of all things paranormal, and like my hero John Keel suggests that
almost all paranormal phenomena are manifestations of the same force assuming a different avatar. But he takes it several steps further by suggesting ritual magic is the common pathology, and Ufology is merely a front for initiation. And he gets into things I've never even heard of (entities leaving secretions and sigils?). The interview is so expansive and highly strange that I don't even know how to describe it, so I'll just copy and paste the little blurb and time stamps.
If you think you've heard it all, you haven't!:). This is an investment in time (about one and half hours) but entirely worth it. You won't be sorry.
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Nathaniel Gillis is a religious demonologist and author known for his unique perspectives on paranormal phenomena. Drawing from personal experiences, including living in a haunted house which spurred two decades of research, Gillis seeks to redefine the nature of hauntings, ghosts, and high strangeness. He is the founder of Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy and has authored books such as "A Moment Called Man." Gillis often explores the intersection of demonology with other unexplained phenomena, including UFOs and alien encounters, suggesting a common underlying source for these varied experiences. He is recognized for his concept of the demonic: "The reason they are playing by different rules is because they are playing a different game."
0:00 Intro
1:14 Introducing Nathaniel Gillis and Necronetics
1:45 UFO abductions linked to occult ritual magic
2:32 Singular intelligence behind archetypes
3:30 Ritual magic as the common pathology
4:22 Entities leave secretions and sigils
5:13 Physical insemination and hybridism
6:10 Embodied practitioners performing chaos magic
9:29 Necronetics: genetics and necromancy
10:23 Modern cases of bio-sigilization
13:40 Entities manipulate perception (observer effect)
16:06 Collapsing into various archetypes
17:38 Remote viewer's guides revealed as "sorcerers"
22:56 Scientific conclusion: entities demand worship
25:29 Why entities demand worship
26:47 The control matrix: threats and harm to researchers
33:41 Theory: embodied initiates create physiological constructs
42:54 Methods of deception and identity diversification
47:06 Entities induce trance states and feed on fear
53:27 CE5 as entity-initiated contact
57:26 Apparitions are projections from orbs
1:03:29 Consciousness as currency, soul extraction
1:08:59 Spiritual rules, trauma as a portal
1:18:22 Ufology as a front for initiation
