Not at all. Several here on this thread (including myself and Bruce Charlton) have been maintaining exactly this. :thumbsup:Quote:
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Not at all. Several here on this thread (including myself and Bruce Charlton) have been maintaining exactly this. :thumbsup:Quote:
Posted by Miller
No truce! Everything on the front lines has been proceeding as normal, as it were. (But because hundreds of men are dying every day I really shouldn't make light of this in any way. :flower:)Quote:
Posted by AuCo
'Normal' means that Ukrainians continue to be being killed or incapacitated in large numbers, their tanks and armored vehicles continue to be destroyed by artillery and drones (there's one impressive video of a Russian tank taking out two Ukrainian vehicles from about 100 meters range with no trouble at all), and the Russian defense is holding rock solid, as it was from the beginning.
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Solid, calm, smiling sense from CIA veteran Ray McGovern, more and more these days like the Wise Old Man of the Mountains. :) Interviewed by Judge Napolitano, published a few hours ago, he explains how the CIA/MI6 works in these kinds of situations. And it all sounds very plausible.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_tFkI1cujgo
For others who found this interesting as well (the first time Macgregor has really diverged from the views of Scott Ritter and others), here he is again, currently live with Judge Napolitano and continuing to explain his opinion about Prigozhin and Wagner.Quote:
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=0zRF9FGRr9s
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Russian media Verstka writes that construction of camps for mercenaries of Wagner PMC has started in Belarus. Though there is no official confirmation of this information, it was rumored that the establishment of these camps began before Prigozhin’s rebellion.
"Verstka confirmed the construction of a camp in Asipovichy, Mogilev Region, for 8,000 fighters, 200 km from the border with Ukraine. There will be several camps.
Construction of a military camp for mercenaries of Wagner PMC is already in full swing in Mogilev Region of Belarus, "Verstka" was told by the Forestry Department of the region. According to the source, there will be several camps, one of which will be located near the town of Asipovichy.
Verstka's source, close to the leadership of Mogilev Region, confirmed that authorities have been instructed to build a camp the PMC in this region.
Information about sending mercenaries to Belarus is also confirmed by relatives of the members of Wagner PMC."
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/s...53653149917184
Putin’s speech and video with English interpreter
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PUTIN (today, RT translation): "We have shown supreme consolidation of society and executive authorities at all levels... practically all Russian society - everyone - was united by their sense of responsibility for the fate of the country. Since the very beginning of these events all the necessary decisions to neutralize the threat were taken and to protect the constitutional order, lives, and safety of our citizens.
The armed mutiny would have been suppressed in any case. Despite their loss of reason, the participants could not not understand that, including the fact that they engaged in criminal actions, splitting apart the country which is now facing colossal external threats and pressures, when our comrades are dying at the front lines, holding on whatever the cost.
But the mutineers betrayed their country, their people and they betrayed those who they dragged into this affair, who they pushed to shoot at their comrades. It is this fratricide that the new Nazis in Kiev and their western masters wanted to see and the various traitors as well. They wanted to see Russian soldiers kill each other. They wanted to see Russian servicemen and civilians die and ultimately to see Russia defeated and the Russian society split apart, in a bloodbath.
They didn't want to take responsibility for failures in the war and with the so called counter offensive but they miscounted the law enforcement authorities and the military, who were loyal to their oath and to their people and to their duty.
The courage and sacrifice of the pilots who died prevented a tragedy on a national scale. At the same time we know that most soldiers and commanders of the Wagner group are also patriots of Russia loyal to their state. They proved this with their courage in combat, liberating the Donbass and Novarosia. They were used blindly. They were thrown against their comrades with whom they fought shoulder to shoulder for our future.
Since the very beginning, I gave orders to prevent bloodshed. And we needed time for that, including to give an opportunity to those who realized that made a mistake, to rethink their decision, to realize that they're putting society at risk and that this is leading to destructive consequences as a result of this reckless affair.
I thank the soldiers and commanders of the Wagner group, who made the only correct decision and refused to engage in a fratricide and who stopped at the last line. Today you have an opportunity to continue your service to Russia by signing a contract with the Minister of Defense or other authorities, or to go back to your families.
Those who wish may go to Belarus. The promise I gave will be fulfilled. I repeat, the choice is up to you.
But I'm sure that this will be a choice of Russia's warriors who realize their tragic mistakes. I'm grateful to President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko for his efforts and his contribution to the peaceful resolution of the situation.
But I repeat, it is the patriotic spirit of people, the consolidation of the entire Russian society, that played the deciding role in these days. This support allowed us to overcome this hard challenge. Thank you for this. I'm grateful."
https://twitter.com/upholdreality/st...11863780945925
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Prigozhin’s Statements:
‼️The main thing from Prigozhin's statement about the rebellion
▪️The formal reason was "intrigues" that would lead to the "disbandment of PMCs" on July 1, Prigozhin said.
▪️The purpose of the campaign was to prevent the destruction of the PMC "Wagner" and to bring to justice those persons who, through their unprofessional actions, made a huge number of mistakes during the military defense.
▪️He assures that the PMC started its march to demonstrate protest, and not to overthrow the government.
▪️"We covered 700 km in a day, not a single soldier on the ground was killed, we regret that we were forced to strike at air assets, but they threw bombs and struck."
▪️When the 1st Assault Squad approached Moscow, it became obvious that a lot of blood would be shed, so we felt that demonstrating what we wanted to do was sufficient (about why the PMC turned around)."
▪️Lukashenko extended his hand and offered to find solutions, the columns turned back and went to the field camps.
▪️The march of justice showed many things that we talked about earlier: the most serious security problems in the country, we blocked all military units and airfields that were on our way, in 24 hours we covered the distance from the launch site of Russian troops on February 24 to Kiev, and from the same point to Uzhgorod.
▪️If the actions on February 24 were carried out by a unit by the level of training, like the Wagner PMC, the special operation might have lasted a day, it is clear that there were other problems, but we showed the level of organization that the Russian army should correspond to.
http://t.me/RVvoenkor
https://twitter.com/djuric_zlatko/st...61126350901255
Published about 5 hours ago, here's today's summary from The Moon of Alabama.
Prigozhin's Farce is Over and it is Clear Who Has Won
The Prigozhin's insurrection farce is over. I had predicted that it would not take long to end:In twelve or so hours things are likely to have calmed down.About eight hours after I published the above Prigozhin had given up and left the scene.
Prigozhin had launched his hopeless mutiny after the Defense Ministry had demanded that all his men sign contacts with the Russian army. That would have taken away the autonomy of his Wagner outlet and with it a large chunk of his profits. The run of his troops towards Moscow was a desperate attempt to get Putin's attention and to make him reverse the ministry's plans.
To justify his move Prigozhin had claimed that Russian miliary forces had attacked a Wagner camp and killed a number of its troops. To prove that he published a video that shows some trash in the woods but no dead soldiers. It was an obvious fake.
Putin had already publicly agreed to the ministry's plans and he is not the man who reverses his decisions on a dime, or under pressure. After Putin's Saturday morning TV speech, during which he accused Prigozhin of treason without naming him, it was clear that there was no chance for the mutiny to have any success. Many of Russia's governors and high ranking military soon assured Putin publicly of their loyalty.
As far as is known none of Wagner's military commanders and only a few thousand of its 25,000 troops had joined Prigozhin in his lunatic run. No one in Russia changed sides or supported him. When the Wagner troops entered Rostov on the Don the people who talked with his soldiers were critical of their presence. When Wagner were leaving without further bloodshed the people applauded. To interpret that as support for Prigozhin, as some 'western' analysts did, is false. The people were just happy that the whole stunt was over.
Finally the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, likely on request from Putin, got Prigozhin on the phone, used some very strong words and negotiated a deal. If Prigozhin goes into exile in Belarus he will not be bothered any further. But the Russian prosecutors will not yet close the treason case against him. Should he again make a hassle he will likely end up in jail.
Prigozhin may be allowed to take some of his troops with him to Belarus. But the large majority will come under the command of the Russian military and will be transformed into some special unit. The French foreign legion may be an good example for such a force and its potential use.
In previous years Prigozhin's companies had made large profits by catering to the needs of the Russian military. The contracts they have will likely end and his personal fortune will take a big hit. The good days are over for him.
The Biden administration is claiming that the whole affair has weakened Putin:QUESTION: But just staying on Vladimir Putin for a minute, do you believe that this is the beginning of the end for Vladimir Putin? SECRETARY BLINKEN: I don’t want to speculate about that. This is, first of all, an internal matter for Russia. What we’ve seen is this, though. We’ve seen this aggression against Ukraine become a strategic failure across the board. Russia is weaker economically, militarily. Its standing around the world has plummeted. It’s managed to get Europeans off of Russian energy. It’s managed to unite and strengthen NATO with new members and a stronger Alliance. It’s managed to alienate from Russia and unite together Ukraine in ways that it’s never been before. This is just an added chapter to a very, very bad book that Putin has written for Russia. But what’s so striking about it is it’s internal. The fact that you have, from within, someone directly questioning Putin’s authority, directly questioning the premises that – upon which he launched this aggression against Ukraine, that in and of itself is something very powerful. It adds cracks. Where those go, when they get there, too soon to say. But it clearly raises new questions that Putin has to deal with.Some well sponsored 'sources' agree with that position:
Meduza’s sources added that the rebellion weakens Putin’s position: “He was unable to get down to Prigozhin’s level, but he was nowhere to be found after yesterday’s national address. He’s the first in command, and takes control when necessary. He shouldn’t make Lukashenko the public face and allow Russia’s security officials [siloviki] to lead negotiations.”As does the Washington Post:On Saturday morning, in the face of Prigozhin’s advance, Putin warned of the “brutal” response to be meted out on what he described as a “rebellion” launched by “traitors.” By the evening, his chief spokesman announced that looming charges against Prigozhin would be dropped and that Wagner fighters who did not participate in the mutiny would be offered contracts by the Russian Defense Ministry. The climb-down revealed a fragility and instability at the heart of Russian power.There are also all kind of conspiracy theories. Will Schryer thinks the whole affair was a psychological operation to smoke out potential traitors. Agit Papadakis claims that this was part of some internal conflict:
With the Putin-Prigo deal, the siloviki have gotten rid of three birds with one stone: Prigo is out forever, exiled to Belarus with Lukashenko as his no-nonsense parole officer, the criminal element in Wagner near and dear to Prigo will be shipped off to Africa, and Putin is disgraced forever, having lost the respect of both the Kremlin and the Russian people. He will now be a powerless figurehead like his brain-dead enemy Biden, taking orders instead of giving them.I disagree with those opinions as I see no sign that Putin came away from it as anything but the winner.|
I am joint in that by Larry Johnson who writes:The West wants to believe that Putin is weak and unpopular — I would note that not a single respected critic of Putin endorsed Prigozhin’s mutiny and that all political leaders across the breadth of Russia lined up behind Putin when the rest of the world was celebrating (prematurely) the demise of the Russian leader.Watching Russian talk shows, Gilbert Doctorow has a similar take:Without any assistance from me, consumers of mainstream Western media know very well the official interpretation that, as always, is being handed down from Washington and is re-posted by our journalists as their own original reporting: how the Prigozhin affair demonstrates the fragility of dictatorships, how it shows the real weakness of the Putin regime, and so forth, and so on. I will offer here a glimpse into what is now being said in Russian public space. I say ‘a glimpse,’ because the diversity of views inside Russia is almost as vast as the country itself and only our ignorant and bigoted opinion formers in the West miss that point.The former Indian ambassador M.K. Bhadrakumar agrees:
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The third panelist on the Solovyov show whom I will cite very briefly was Alexander Babakov, deputy chair of the State Duma and a parliamentarian from the United Russia party. His point was that the armed mutiny failed because it was rejected by the regular Army, by the Russian government at all levels and by the people as a whole. In this way, Russia demonstrated to the world its unity in time of war, its readiness to stand up to the Collective West. The lesson for the West was precisely the strength of the country and of its Commander in Chief.
Is anyone listening in Washington?
Blinken has piled up a consistent record for being horribly wrong on his assessments on Russia — starting from the deathly blow the ‘sanctions from hell’ were expected to give to the Russian economy; Putin’s hold on power; Russia’s catastrophic defeat in Ukraine; Russian military’s deficiencies; Kiev’s inexorable military victory, and so on. In this case, he has reason to feel embittered particularly because of the spectacular unity of the Russian state, political elite, media, regional and federal bureaucracy, and the military and security establishment in rallying behind Putin. Arguably, Putin’s political stature is now unchallengeable and unassailable in Russia and the Americans have to live with that reality long after Joe Biden’s departure from the scene.Today Prigozhin again tried to justify his 'march for justice' as he calls it and again repeats the evidence free claim of the attack on his group. He also claims that his operation demonstrated the problems in the Russian military and the quality of Wagner.
But in fact there was at no moment any danger for Russia. The Russian airforce could have destroyed the Wagner convoys on their way to Moscow at a few minutes notice. His troops in Rostov-on-Don were surrounded by the Chechen troops of Ramzan Kadyrov who had rushed to the city and were prepared to fight Wagner down.
I don't think that there is a chance that Prigozhin will ever have a come back. He is finished and he has only himself to blame for it.
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⚡️PUTIN IS HOLDING MEETING WITH HEADS OF ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
Putin is holding a meeting with the participation of the heads of law enforcement agencies, Peskov said.
Prosecutor General Krasnov, Interior Minister Kolokoltsev, Defense Minister Shoigu, FSB director Bortnikov, National Guard head Zolotov, FSO director Kochnev, head of the Investigative Committee Bastrykin, and the head of the Kremlin administration Vaino are participating.
https://twitter.com/runews/status/1673417457627721740
Jewish pedophille Putin mentions blackmail attempt...
https://news.sky.com/story/any-black...llion-12910112
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... don't know, but, who would want - right in the middle of a war - dismantle the most effective and efficient army group of soldiers and disperse them to the 4 winds? That too is treason! Putin didn't walk back on his word of being "stab in the bacK" nor of "inescapable consequences"... yet Prigozhin finds easy, unchallenged asylum in Belarus... hence not the alleged traitor in Putin's crosshairs... if this is true, we will soon find out who did the real backstabbing... right?
Referencing Sky News articles (or those from the BBC, CNN, CBC, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, Reuters, Moscow Times, Kiev Independent, The Daily Beast, and a list of maybe 30 more) won't really work here, and certainly won't be helpful. :)Quote:
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As best I understand (in a rapidly moving situation!) this isn't the proposal, no matter how Prigozhin is interpreting it or presenting it. I may possibly be wrong, but if Wagner troops are assimilated into the Russian military, effective and established units would certainly be kept together.Quote:
Posted by Gwin Ru
Again as best I understand it, there's no criticism at all of the Wagner forces who didn't take part in the Rostov affair (which is the significant majority of them). They're totally appreciated by Putin, and are admired and applauded by most of the Russian population. Any senior military commander, Gerasimov included, would absolutely want to keep the established units intact.
(But yes, we'll soon see how this all unfolds :highfive: )
Skynews is a crucial propaganda organ for the Kissinger crowd how is that not relevant to actually discerning the truth?Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanReferencing Sky News articles (or those from the BBC, CNN, CBC, Fox, MSNBC, ABC, Reuters, Moscow Times, Kiev Independent, The Daily Beast, and a list of maybe 30 more) won't really work here, and certainly won't be helpful. :)Quote:
Posted by PlasmaVortex
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As I understand from Putin’s speech here, https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1564609Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanAs best I understand (in a rapidly moving situation!) this isn't the proposal, no matter how Prigozhin is interpreting it or presenting it. I may possibly be wrong, but if Wagner troops are assimilated into the Russian military, effective and established units would certainly be kept together.Quote:
Posted by Gwin Ru
Again as best I understand it, there's no criticism at all of the Wagner forces who didn't take part in the Rostov affair (which is the significant majority of them). They're totally appreciated by Putin, and are admired and applauded by most of the Russian population. Any senior military commander, Gerasimov included, would absolutely want to keep the established units intact.
(But yes, we'll soon see how this all unfolds :highfive: )
Putin is giving the Wagner group a choice,
“ I thank the soldiers and commanders of the Wagner group, who made the only correct decision and refused to engage in a fratricide and who stopped at the last line. Today you have an opportunity to continue your service to Russia by signing a contract with the Minister of Defense or other authorities, or to go back to your families.
Those who wish may go to Belarus. The promise I gave will be fulfilled. I repeat, the choice is up to you.”.
That doesn’t sound like he is dispersing them to the four winds?
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https://twitter.com/its_maria012/sta...38978161381376
I think it was Colonel Douglas Macgregor who said that Wagner was like the French legion. There are also foreign fighters in it.
So probably not every single one of them can be contracted into the Russian army.
Prigozhin was allegedly the owner/leader of Wagner but in no way a military commander. Each unit had their own (probably experienced) military commander.
That may hold the units together I think. However keep in mind that the regular army demands strict top-down discipline and that may become a problem
for Wagner fighters who probably had much more liberty to do what they think necessary (which might explain their success too b.t.w.).
Whatever may have happened, I do not tend to think there is any "weakening" of Putin domestically or abroad.
Mostly the opposite. These journalists have not taken their lesson from 1881. This was around the beginning of what is commonly called "Nihilists", or just "terrorism", having already committed a few murders and explosions in mines and railways. And then the world's first suicide bombing was directed at Tsar Alexander II--by Wagner-alikes, mostly paroled convicts. Of course, being internationally-influenced through British Switzerland, the group had at its disposal a Pole and a Jew. The decision was made to exclude them and require that the attacker be one of the Russian criminals.
There are two outstanding characteristics, it was suicide because the bombs of the time were too heavy to be thrown more than a few feet. Also, it is in the era of mass communication, with many regularly-printed newspapers, and telegraphy over distance. Not quite instant, but news travels fast. Then, even worse, we are told:
There have been “palace regicides” before now—as in the case Peter III and Paul—committed secretly and within the four walls. But the killing of a Czar in full daylight, in his own metropolis, amidst his guards and under the very eyes of a population entirely devoted to him, is a crime hitherto unknown in the annals of Russian history—a crime which covers the whole land with disgrace.
The point of the article is less about the crime itself, but--coming from a Russian--about the "soul of the Russian people" accepting the fact that sometimes they have to deal with poor leaders, the answer to which is not found in foreign interference or violent crime:
And that means an inexorable chase to everyone suspected—death and immediate “Lynch Law” at the hands of the infuriated crowd. Yet the professed object of the Russian Nihilists, as constantly brought forward by the arrested leaders of the deadly secret organization called “the terrorizing faction,” is the salvation of the Russian people. “The idol we sacrifice to is not self, not personal passion, nor profit,” says Goldenberg in his confessions, alleged to have been written prior to his committing suicide in the Petropavlovskaya Fortress (November 1880), but “the good of society in our beloved Russia.” Often, and unjustly indeed, has the Russian populace been suspected of secret sympathy with their would-be benefactors and redeemers; whereas the truth is that these modern Sardanapali, who, prior to perishing themselves, never fail to destroy dozens of innocent victims, were ever abhorred by the lower classes. For long years have many of these educated young men and women, masqueraded in the garb of working people or peasants, and adopting the ways and language of the working classes of Russia, mixed with their “younger brethren.” By sowing dissatisfaction and filling their heads with revolutionary ideas, they hoped to bring about the much desired result—a revival of the days of terror in our own century—but with no effect. That they have signally failed to convert to, or even impress the lower classes with, their own ideas, is no fault of theirs, but is owing to reasons which Europe does not seem to have well realized yet. The mutual relations between the Czars of Russia and the people are unparalleled in history. French Bretagne alone, in its undeviating loyalty and devotion to the Bourbon family throughout the great revolution—nay, even now, amidst Republican France—can afford us a point of comparison. But in neither country does that loyalty rest on the individual merits of the sovereign or the personal affection he inspires. Its cause is to be sought for in their religious fanaticism with which that feeling of loyalty is so deeply intermingled, that to weaken the one is to kill the other. Coronation was in France, and is still in Russia, one of the chief Church Sacraments, and the Czar in the people’s sight is more even than any of the Kings of France ever was—“a Lord’s Elect and His Anointed:” he is thrice sacred. Religion is the Czar’s chief stronghold, without which he would have but a poor chance of security. And that perhaps is the secret of so much outward piety, but too often combined with the greatest moral depravity in the Imperial families. The Russian people were as devoted to Ivan the Terrible, the Russian Nero, and to the half-insane and cruel Paul, as they were to Alexander II, the “Blessed.”
It is even clearer at the trial of Sophia:
The young lady [says the Gazette] showed herself extremely insolent and daring before her judges. Their attempts to elucidate from her some details of the crime with which she is connected, proved utterly useless. Looking them fearlessly in the face, she burst out laughing. When pressed to explain the cause of her hilarity, she exclaimed, “I laugh at your tribunal! You will remain as blind now as your police, before whose very nose I waved my pocket handkerchief while giving the signal to my friends to throw the bomb on the day of Emperor’s execution. . . . Having done my work, I quietly retired, and went home without their ever remarking my participation in the final scene. . . . I laugh at you and your police.” . . .
“But think of what lies in prospect before you!” . . .
“Gallows? I know that well, and am prepared for it from the first. I laugh at your gallows as I do at you! “
“But think of God. . . . He. . . .”
“I laugh at your God likewise . . . I do not believe in God.”
“Woman”!—sternly remarked the Judge—“hold you nothing sacred in the world! What is there, then, you do not laugh at?”
She became suddenly serious. “My people”—she said—“The Russian people—is the only object I do not laugh at; it is my sole divinity and idol!”
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The judges after consulting returned—“Prisoner! We will now act according to your own desires. We will put an end to your examination and will not sentence you to any punishment—neither gallows nor even simple exile. We will exempt you altogether from our tribunal; but, taking you to the Palace Square, we will deliver you into the hands
and justice of your idol—the Russian people. Let it be your only judge. . . . Gendarmes! Lead the prisoner away.”
A quarter of an hour later, Sophia Perovsky was writhing at the feet of the Imperial Procureur. Outside, near the gates of the Tribunal, the agitated masses of populace were howling, cursing, and threatening, at the prison van which brought the political prisoners for their examination, the soldiers vainly trying to keep the threatening crowds at a distance. “Yes! Yes!” she cried ringing her hands—“I will tell you all, all. . . . Sentence me to whatever torture and death you will. . . . But do, oh, do not deliver me unto the people! . . .”
HPB to her sister Vera Zhelivosky:
"Good heavens, what is this new horror? Has the last day fallen upon Russia? Or has Satan entered the offspring of our Russian land? Have they all gone mad, the wretched Russian people? What will be the end of it all, what are we to expect from the future? Oh God! people may say, if they choose, that I am an Atheist, a Buddhist, a renegade, a citizen of a Republic, but the bitterness I feel! How sorry I am for the Imperial family, for the Tsar martyr, for the whole of Russia. I abhor, I despise and utterly repudiate these sneaking monsters — Terrorists. Let every one laugh at me if they choose, but the martyr-like death of our sovereign Tsar makes me feel — though I am an American citizen — such compassion, such anguish, and such shame that in the very heart of Russia people could not feel this anger and sorrow more strongly."
'What do you mean by this? Aren't you an American?' I got so cross that I have sent a kind of general reply to the Bombay Gazette: not as a Russian subject am I clothed in mourning (I have written to them), but as a Russian by birth, as one of many millions whose benefactor has been this kindly, compassionate man now lamented by the whole of my country. By this act I desire to show respect, love, and sincere sorrow at the death of the sovereign of my mother and my father, of my sisters and brothers in Russia. Writing in this way silenced them, but before this two or three newspapers thought it a good opportunity to chaff the office of the Theosophist and the Theosophist itself for going into mourning. Well, now they know the reason and can go to the devil!
To M. Fadeev:
It's a real calamity: fancy that even now I cannot read Russian newspapers with any sort of composure! I have become a regular and perpetual fountain of tears; my nerves have become worse than useless.
Next for Alexander III:
Encouraged by its successful assassination of Alexander II, the Narodnaya Volya movement began planning the murder of Alexander III. The Okhrana uncovered the plot and five of the conspirators, including Aleksandr Ulyanov, the older brother of Vladimir Lenin, were captured and hanged in May 1887.
This, of course, was really the precursor to the Bolsheviks, which is what Russia usually talks about, but even so, they are perfectly aware of more than thirty years of skullduggery sent over by the likes of Rothschilds and Mazzinists.
I am not sure it directly corresponds to Wagner, since Lone Gunman remains a viable option simply based on the fact of the end of his original contracts. Maybe he just wanted to make a show of force, without necessarily attacking any powerful official. But what remains in common is that most likely "the masses" are going to view it disfavorably and remain loyal to their leadership, if not a Czar, someone who is still the head of the Russian state.
The people who are into "planning" with some notion they are going to degrade the society or unleash civil strife aren't going to get there.
Yes, you could influence it politically so that you hold back industries and allow tycoons to start offshoring wealth, and when this is figured out, the trend is simply reversed.
If the press didn't use so many negativistic buzzwords, they would have nothing to report. It is such an English language thing. There is so much less of that abrasive tone from almost any non-Anglo country. I believe they may have become frustrated by the false, unworkable ideas born out as the ongoing attempted corrosion of the Russian "soul" or "national will". Does the UK have one of those?
“ I think it was Colonel Douglas Macgregor who said that Wagner was like the French legion. There are also foreign fighters in it.”
Yes it was, Colonel Douglas Macgregor said that to Judge Napolitano.
Another interesting explanation given here,
https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/sta...18051574972416
Wagner troops moved to Belarus
Helpful note from Bill:
This is in Korean, but English subtitles can be generated by clicking Settings > Subtities > Auto-translate > English (or any other language).
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German Troops to Russian Border, 8000 Wagner in Belarus! Ukraine Nuke Drill
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Prigozhin’s Dangerous Game Of Extortion. What The Wagner Head Gained and Lost
Kim Iversen
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"Breaking down Prigozhin’s attempts at extorting Moscow. Was it for personal money or for love of his Wagner Group?"
Three videos providing a little break from the day to day news, commentaries and analyses of the current conflict, if you don't mind, while reminding us of the human tragedy in any war...
The first and the third video, by the way, were filmed in Moscow just a few days ago.
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Young Russian singer Yaroslav Yuryevich Dronov, better known by his stage name Shaman, has supported the Russian military operation in Ukraine since the beginning and has performed at various government-organized events. In January of this year he even played for Russian soldiers in Lugansk and Mariupol.
In the following video, added to his YouTube channel just a few days ago, he is singing his single Rise Up during a concert at the Kremlin, in honour of the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow, which is celebrated annually on June 22 in Russia, in Belarus and in Ukraine.
Quite a touching and respectful display of patriotism and of remembrance to honour the fallen, actually...
Text under the video:Dear family, today we celebrate the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow - remembering the heroes who defended the freedom and independence of our nation and mourning those who gave their lives so that all of us could live.
I DIE, BUT I DO NOT SURRENDER!
- These words, written by a Russian soldier on the wall of the Brest Fortress, immortalized the feat of defenders of our homeland who fought back the enemy in the first minutes of the Great Patriotic War. They knew that the truth is behind us and we will definitely win.
These heroes will remain forever in our hearts. And we will stand up to honor their memory.__________________________________________________________Lyrics:
Let's Rise
Let's rise
As long as we're still living and the truth is on our side
From up beyond someone is watching us with the eyes we love
They smiled like children and marched into the skies
Let's rise
And get closer to them
Let's rise
As long as God and the truth are on our side
We'll say thanks for granting us victory
To those who found their heavens and are not with us any more
Let's rise
And singsong
Let's rise
Our eternal memory beats harder in our chest, among ourselves
Let's rise
The heroes of Russia will remain in our hearts
Till the end
Let's rise
And remember all those we have lost in this fire
Those who were off to die for freedom, not medals
I know we will definitely meet
Let's rise
And singsong anew
Let's rise
Our eternal memory beats harder in our chest, among ourselves
Let's rise
The heroes of Russia will remain in our hearts
Till the end
We'll rise (х3)
Let's rise
Our eternal memory beats harder in our chest, among ourselves
Let's rise
The heroes of Russia will remain in our hearts
Till the end
Source of the translation: https://lyricstranslate.com/en/vstanem-lets-rise.html
Secondly, here's a short video with historical footage from the Great Patriotic War.
I realize that this video does not really belong on this thread, but I am adding it nevertheless for the added context offered by the text that accompanies the video, re: the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow:
Text under the video:__________________________________________________________
22 июня день памяти и скорби | June 22 is the day of remembrance and sorrow
The Great Patriotic War lasted for 1418 long days and nights and ended with the complete defeat of the Nazi invaders. On May 9, 1945, at 00:43 Moscow time, the Act of Unconditional Surrender of Germany was signed. 27 million human victims. There was not a single family that would have been spared by this tragedy. And it is our duty to remember this and not let history repeat itself!
June 22 reminds us of all those who died on the battlefield, tortured in German captivity, died of hunger, cold and disease in the rear, from wounds received in hospitals.
This is a memorable date for all residents of Russia and all former Soviet countries. Throughout our country, commemorative events are held annually, state flags are lowered, flowers and wreaths are laid at the Eternal Flame, at monuments and memorials of fallen soldiers in the Great Patriotic War. We mourn for all those who defended our Fatherland and our future at the cost of their lives.
Finally, if you feel so inclined, watch a few minutes of this walk along the embankment of the Moscow River, where 1418 burning candles are displayed one next to another — 1418 representing of course the number of days of the largest war in the history of Russia.
The video was filmed on the evening of June 21, 2023.
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German central bank risks bailout after money printing spree.
Germany's central bank may need a bailout to cover more than €650 billion in debt losses it racked up in a massive European Central Bank's bond-buying program, the country's federal auditor warned.
The auditor said the Bundesbank's bond-buying losses were "substantial" and "could necessitate a recapitalisation with budgetary funds."
The ECB's steep rate hikes led the Bundesbank to lose €1 billion of its bond holdings last year alone.
That is because the central bank is now paying commercial banks more interest on deposits at the Bundesbank than the interest it earns on its bonds.
Earlier in March, German central bank President Joachim Nagel warned that the "burdens on the Bundesbank's profit and loss account are likely to increase considerably in the years to come."
He noted that the Bundesbank's reserves of €19.2 billion are likely to be wiped out in the coming years.
Nagel said that while its buffers would be sufficient to cover losses this year, he warned that in subsequent years, "the burdens will probably exceed our financial buffers."
That said, Nagel expects that current losses will be transferred to the Bundesbank's balance sheet and covered by future profits "over the course of time," adding that, for now, "the Bundesbank's balance sheet is sound."
https://telegraph.co.uk/business/202...rinting-spree/
https://twitter.com/mazzenilsson/sta...42194064064513
NATO Secretary General position still up in the ai
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Flamethrowers "Solntsepyok" and MLRS "Grad" began to burn the militants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the Antonovsky bridge
The enemy’s raid group had just been hit by the Solntsepyok heavy flamethrower system, before that, our MLRS covered the enemy’s concentration site (on video).
The battle for the bridgehead continues.
https://t.me/vicktop55/15769?single
https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status...64653354381313
Here is an anomaly I found in the material I posted earlier.
This is aimed at "general information", such as Wikipedia, I rarely find it to be "wrong", but, it has numerous instances of being "incomplete" in a way that makes trails go cold. This is one such instance.
If we can figure out who is being discussed here, the Wiki page is on Grand Duke Nicholas Konstantinovitch:
In a scandal related to this affair, he stole three valuable diamonds from the revetment of one of the most valuable family icons. He was declared insane and he was banished to Tashkent.
His bio is quite brief, there are not details or specific events until he builds a palace in Tashkent, 1890.
What is given for the source is another web page, Romanov Sex Scandals 2018:
Then, in April 1874, diamonds were stolen in the palace of Nicholas’s parents, taken from the revetment of one of the most cherished icons in the family, the one that Nicholas I had blessed his younger son, Nicholas’s father, and his wife with.
The investigation led to an astonishing discovery – the diamonds were stolen and sold to a pawn shop by Grand Duke Nicholas! He planned to spend the money on gifts for his Fanny. The Grand Duke didn’t show a hint of remorse at the crime, so at his parents’ order he was declared insane, lost all his privileges as a member of the Imperial family and was sent to the countryside, and eventually to Central Asia. He wasn’t even allowed to attend the funeral of his uncle, Alexander II, in 1881.
A bit more to it, but, we might begin to suspect that the diamonds went missing in 1874, but who knows what happened after that.
Well, since around 1866, Russia had found itself on the receiving end of assassination attempts and terrorist acts; after a section explaining people in their 20s going around with too much money, we find this guy may be lying in Letters to The Pioneer 1881:
That unanimous, persistent rumour names unhesitatingly the Grand-Duke Constantine, the late Emperor’s own brother, as the direct and chief conspirator of the regicide. . . .
Enormous sums of money have been secretly capitalized of late in foreign markets and traced to the Grand Duke, and even the priceless stones from the family ikons in his private chapel, a theft but just discovered, were taken out by no hand of a common thief, but by that of their owner.
Grand Duke Konstantin Nikolayevich is meant by the first sentence. His page says nothing of these later years.
The young Grand Duke, while pleading guilty of the theft, said that he had only saved the diamonds from worse hands than his—those of the Nihilists. He declared that he personally was and would ever remain His Majesty’s most faithful and loyal subject, while his father and mother were but two traitors who conspired against the Czar’s life. It is now proved for a certainty that on the day of regicide the Emperor, yielding to the entreaties of both Loris-Melikoff and Dolgoroukov, would probably have remained at home, had not the Grand Duke Constantine’s wife suddenly thwarted Loris-Melikoff’s plans. The Grand Duchess Alexandra Iossifovna, or “Madame Constantine” as she is called, touched the Czar’s pride to the quick by remarking that “were he to abstain from showing himself on that day, the people might suspect His Majesty of being a coward.” That was enough, and the Emperor drove to his doom. It is a well-known fact that ever since March 5th (17th) she has been kept a prisoner in her palace, no one being allowed to see her but in the presence of a high official, who is said to sleep in a room next to her own bed chamber.
Then there is the fact of their eldest son, the Grand Duke Nikolay Constantinovitch being publicly arrested on the open accusation of being implicated with the Nihilists. Moreover the high office of the Amiralen-Chef held by the Grand Duke Constantine since his very childhood has been suddenly abolished, and the official Government paper has notified all Russia of it. Again, at the time when the dining room in the Winter Palace was blown up, the whole of the Imperial family was present during the catastrophe except the Grand Duke Constantine; who had, on the pretext of some business two hours before, left for Cronstadt. Nor was he at St. Petersburg on March the 1st (13th), having most unexpectedly gone again to the same place on the previous night, returning to the metropolis but three days later, pretending as an excuse a sudden and serious attack of illness upon hearing of the fearful event.
Does one sell the family jewels for "gifts for an actress" in order to prevent those dreadful Nihilists from getting them?
Narodnaya Volya has a quite descriptive page, clear enough that its mission is assassination and terrorism, but, it still does not mention accomplices amongst the Tsarists.
When the diamonds first went missing:
In the spring of 1874 a mass movement of Going to the People began, with young intellectuals taking jobs in rural villages as teachers, clerks, doctors, carpenters, masons, or common farm laborers, attempting to immerse themselves in the peasants' world so as to better inculcate them with socialist and revolutionary ideas. Fired with messianic zeal, perhaps 2,000 people left for rural posts in the spring; by the fall some 1,600 of these found themselves arrested and jailed, failing to make the slightest headway in fomenting agrarian revolution. The failure of this movement, marked by a rejection of political arguments by the peasantry and easy arrests of public speakers by local authorities and the Okhrana, deeply influenced the revolutionary movement in years to follow. The need for stealth and secrecy and more aggressive measures seemed to have been made clear.
However detailed, it does not say anything about outside assistance such as Rothschild banks, or internal complicity from disgruntled Romanovs. The Letters from the original event obviously show this.
It does mention Propaganda of the Deed by the Mazzinist Pisacane as significantly influential:
These ideas are called propaganda of the deed and have exerted compelling influence on rebels and terrorists alike ever since [1857].
Russia 1866 is shown at the beginning of the huge strand of acts derived from this work, including President McKinley, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, and so on. Again we find a kind of split from someone who might be a "socialist", "moderate reformer", etc., certainly wants to wash their hands:
As early as 1887, a few important figures in the anarchist movement had begun to distance themselves from individual acts of violence. Peter Kropotkin thus wrote that year in Le Révolté that "a structure based on centuries of history cannot be destroyed with a few kilos of dynamite". A variety of anarchists advocated the abandonment of these sorts of tactics in favor of collective revolutionary action, for example through the trade union movement. The anarcho-syndicalist, Fernand Pelloutier, argued in 1895 for renewed anarchist involvement in the labor movement on the basis that anarchism could do very well without "the individual dynamiter."
Inspired by The Man who was Thursday 1908 (fictional), Jack London began but did not finish The Assassination Bureau Inc., which was set in America. In 1969, the fictional background was re-worked to film The Assassination Bureau, which starts in London 1908. It is a black comedy and still fictional, but, at least somewhat deliberately tinkered to be suggestive of the actual events.
This seems to be about the same as what was called in the French Revolution "Radicals". There is a big difference between someone prepared to slap on a uniform and fight--e. g., the American Continental Army against the British military--and someone willing to do anything to unleash violence.
"Violent acts for sale" seems to summarize most western Private Military Contractors, which again is why such a thing does not really sound Russian. It may as well have been dissolved if it does not really fit their ethos. If convicted, Prigozhin would have served twelve to twenty years--sounds light and then he would be re-qualified to join such a band.
Amnesty seems to have worked quite well in Syria, probably because most of the defectors were desperate and misguided. When Russia first tried it, Europe thought it was the thing to do, but then it directly played into outspoken terrorism.
Tarpley on Lord Palmerston's assistants Mazzini, Urquhart, and Napoleon III:
Mazzini is also an assassination bureau.
That article is thickly detailed.
Perhaps first inspiring the Orsini Affair 1858:
The expatriate Italian leader Giuseppe Mazzini worked a network of activists and fundraisers from London.
Even from a favorable view in The Atlantic:
In Mazzini’s case, moreover, as one of his biographers has pointed out, his contemporaries have been the less able to grasp an idea of his character as a whole owing to the fact that his astonishing influence over his own countrymen and the whole democracy of Europe was exerted mysteriously and chiefly from a distance, and they have been compelled to judge him from “ the remote effects of an inspiration often misinterpreted by those who were its instruments.”
As we know, he launched Young Italy in distinction to the Carbonari, and of course the widespread issuance of such youth movements is pretty much in line with propaganda of the deed.
This was up and running before, and was informative to, dangerous Russian Nihilists such as Bakunin.
I listened to this earlier this morning over my second cup of tea, and it is excellent, as ever. Clear, and as accurate an analysis as I've heard so far, from anyone. This really must be listened to in conjunction with the ever extraordinary Ray McGovern whose serene wisdom remains omnipresent throughout.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanFor others who found this interesting as well (the first time Macgregor has really diverged from the views of Scott Ritter and others), here he is again, currently live with Judge Napolitano and continuing to explain his opinion about Prigozhin and Wagner.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0zRF9FGRr9s
Apropos the dynamic between Andrew Napolitano and Ray McGovern: two 'New Yorkers' - New Jersey and The Bronx if I remember correctly - who totally get it :)
I'll temporarily retire my more conspiratorial musings for another time ( :) ) as it's become abundantly clear to me - and it had occurred as well - that this event, which still does count as grand theatre (!) had been remarkably skilfully handled by Vladimir Putin whose impressiveness continues to rise; that it does seem as if this was not a truly treasonous act; that Prigozhin has (obviously) within Russian circles been understood to always have the potential to do something as outlandish as this, to make a statement, which does in this case have some justification.
Entertaining isn't quite the right word here, but it sure as heck has been totally gripping drama, in a way that perhaps only a Russian mind could really properly understand. One does wonder whether Tolstoy could have contrived a plot so engaging: the good Ruble would suggest, quite probably.
So, onwards we go....
Thanks, Bill, and apologies. Only a brief absence from this thread and it's impossible to keep up.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanNot at all. Several here on this thread (including myself and Bruce Charlton) have been maintaining exactly this. :thumbsup:Quote:
Posted by Miller
I really don't want to appear shallow, and of course you all know me WAY better than that, but: have any of you seen so many attractive, healthy, and exuberant young people all in one place exuding a simple pure pride? :heart: My goodness, they're gorgeous....
This is quite the moment :sun:
Filmed, I think, perhaps as recently as yesterday although I can't be certain.
“I am Russian” — “Я Русский”
Trust me, there really isn't anything like this happening here in the UK right now.
Shared by Kim Dotcom on Twitter who rightly states that this is "hard to watch".
Ukrainian soldiers trapped in a minefield
It brings home the reality of what the hopelessly abandoned, under-supported Ukrainian soldiers are faced with every day on the battlefield. NATO knows all this of course but daren't ever admit to it publicly, you know, to "keep face". I echo Scott Ritter's recently impassioned vitriol aimed at those western military and political types who should all be brought before the ICC and charged with crimes of murder.
This isn't graphic in the sense to which we're sadly accustomed, but a stark snapshot of reality. A little longer than some clips, and comes in at about 11 minutes in length :flower:
Having lost many family members to wars and having seen the devastation to the ones that lived through it, life long devastation, it is refreshing to see respect and honor shown to these men and women. There are many countries that see them as nothing more than cannon fodder and lab rats for experimental medical injections. That song was so touching it moved me beyond words. Thank you, Atman.Quote:
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Posted by Ravenlocke
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russ...agner-uprising
Excerpt from above article,
“What Prigozhin Wants
I sometimes like to think of western “end of history” predeterminism (in which all of history is an inexorable march towards global neoliberal performative democracy and the final liberation and happiness of all mankind is announced when the victorious pride flag flies in Moscow, Beijing, Tehran, and Pyongyang) as being essentially a geopolitical corollary to Jurassic Park - a poignant story of hubris and ruin (and one of my favorite movies).
The analytic model of Jurassic Park’s creators presumed that the dinosaurs - creatures about whom they knew practically nothing - would over time submit to control routines like zoo animals. Blinded by the illusion of control and the theoretical stability of their systems (presumed to be stable because it was designed to be stable), there was no appreciation for the fact that the Tyrannosaurus had an intelligence and a will of its own.
I think that Yevgeny Prigozhin is a bit like the Tyrannosaurus in Jurassic Park. Both the western neoliberal apparatus and the Russian four dimensional plan-trusters seem to think of Prigozhin as a cog that exists to execute the function of their world model. Whether that model is the long march of history towards democracy and the last man or a brilliant and nuanced master plan by Putin to destroy the unipolar Atlantic world, it does not matter much - both tend to negate Prigozhin’s agency and turn him into a slave of the model. But perhaps he is a Tyranosaurus, with an intelligence and will that has an internally generated direction indifferent to our world models. Perhaps he tore down the fence for reasons of his own
We have to return to who Prigozhin is, and what Wagner is.
To Prigozhin, Wagner is first and foremost a business which has made him a huge amount of money, particularly in Africa. Wagner’s value (in the most fundamental sense) comes from its high degree of combat effectiveness and its unique status as an independent entity from the Russian armed forces. Any threat to either of these factors represents a financial and status catastrophe for Prigozhin.
Recently, developments in the war have evinced an existential threat to the Wagner group as a viable PMC. These are, namely:
A concerted push by the Russian government to force Wagner fighters to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense. In effect, this threatens to liquidate Wagner as an independent organization and subsume it wholesale into the regular Russian military.
Wagner is losing the manpower surge from last year’s conscriptions (including convicts). These conscripts provided an enormous manpower buffer that allowed Wagner to shoulder the large-scale fighting in Bakhmut, but many have completed their tours of duty.
This means that Wagner faces potential destruction from two fronts. Institutionally, the Russian government wants to essentially neutralize Wagner’s independence by folding it into the MoD. From Prigozhin’s point of view, this essentially means the nationalization of his business.
Furthermore, a slimmed down Wagner (having shed much of the conscripts that fleshed it out to Army Corps size) is not something that Prigozhin wants to send into combat in Ukraine. Once Wagner is stripped down to its core of experienced wet work operators, casualties in Ukraine will begin eating directly into Wagner’s viability.
In other words, Prigozhin and the authorities were at an impasse. What Prigozhin probably wanted most of all, to put it bluntly, was to use the fame won in Bakhmut to take Wagner back to Africa and start making lots of money again. What he did not want was to have his PMC absorbed into the Russian military, or to have his core of lethal professionals attrited in another major battle in Ukraine. The MoD, on the other hand, very much wants to absorb Wagner fighters into the regular army and use them to defeat Ukraine on the battlefield.
So, we have a clear conflict of interests.
But what can Prigozhin do about it? He has absolutely no institutional power, and Wagner is dependent on the Ministry of Defense for equipment, supplies, ISR, and so much more. Furthermore, Prigozhin’s personal wealth and his family are under the jurisdiction of the Russian state. He has very limited leverage. There are really only a few things he can do. He can record videos to embarrass, harass, and degrade the Ministry of Defense. Of course, it’s probably unwise to directly attack Putin in these rants, and it might not play well to insult ordinary Russian soldiers, so these attacks have to be properly targeted at precisely the sort of bureaucratic higher ups that the Russian public is predisposed to dislike - men like Shoigu and Gerasimov.
Apart from these video tantrums, Prigozhin really had only one other play to stop the institutional absorption of Wagner - stage an armed protest. Get as many men as he could to join him, make a move, and see if the state could be rocked enough to give him the deal he wanted.
It sounds weird, of course. You’ve heard of gunboat diplomacy - now we get to see tank-based contract negotiations. Yet it is clear that the dispute over Wagner’s independence and status vis a vis Russian military institutions was at the heart of this. Earlier this month, Prigozhin announced his intention to disobey a presidential order that required his fighters to sign MoD contracts by July 1.
Prigozhin’s statement this morning (Monday, June 26), however, was extremely instructive. It focused almost exclusively on his central grievance: Wagner was going to be absorbed into the institutional military. He doesn’t take this to its conclusion and note that this would nationalize his highly profitable business, but his comments leave no doubt as to his motivation. Here are a few key points that he makes:
Wagner did not want to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense
Absorption into the MoD would mean the end of Wagner: “This unit was supposed to cease its existence on July 1.”
“The goal of our campaign was to prevent the destruction of Wagner Group.”
But what did Prigozhin think would happen? What was his optimistic scenario? Likely, he hoped that general anti-bureaucratic and anti-corruption sentiments, combined with Wagner’s popularity and fame, would lead to an upswell of support for the group which would put the government in a position to acquiesce to Wagner’s independence.
It was a bold decision. Facing institutional absorption, Prigozhin gambled on a measured destabilization campaign that would rock the country just enough to spook Putin into cutting him a deal. Prigozhin might have convinced himself that this was a clever and decisive roll of the dice that could turn things in his favor. I rather think that they were not playing dice at all. They were playing cards, and Prigozhin had nothing in his hand.”
I've seen this video yesterday and it shows how incredibly stupid war is. At first I felt to share it too just to prove that point.Quote:
Posted by Tintin
But on the other hand I don't like to subject a greater audience to these kind of horrible images where you realize that one
moment somebody is fine and then the next disaster strikes. Watching it makes me feel like an accomplice because of this
timely nature (Watching it is one thing, filming it is even on a deeper level).
Perhaps we should still show these videos to all those people playing shoot'em'up games to confront them with the horrible reality.
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... latest from Scott Ritter:
Scott Ritter talks about the situation in Russia 26:17
https://yt3.ggpht.com/KuxxtPFS5Ws1d-...00ffffff-no-rj Issues that Matter with Cynthia Pooler
Jun 26, 2023 #scottritter #putin #russia
Scott Ritter talks about the situation in Russia
Address to Defence Ministry, National Guard, Federal Security Service, Interior Ministry and Federal Guard Service units which ensured law and order during the mutiny
Speaking on Cathedral Square of the Moscow Kremlin, the President addressed service personnel from the units of the Defence Ministry, the Federal Service of National Guard Troops, the Federal Security Service, the Interior Ministry and the Federal Guard Service, which ensured law and order during the mutiny.
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June 27, 2023 13:25 The Kremlin, Moscow
The President addressed service personnel from the units of the Defence Ministry, the Federal Service of National Guard Troops, the Federal Security Service, the Interior Ministry and the Federal Guard Service, which ensured law and order during the mutiny.
https://avalonlibrary.net/Tintin/Put...ne_27_2023.jpg
The President addressed service personnel from the units of the Defence Ministry, the Federal Service of National Guard Troops, the Federal Security Service, the Interior Ministry and the Federal Guard Service, which ensured law and order during the mutiny. Photo: Sergey Guneev, RIA Novosti
President of Russia Vladimir Putin:
Comrades,
Today, standing here on the historic Cathedral Square of the Moscow Kremlin are the service personnel of the Russian Federation Armed Forces, soldiers and officers of the National Guard, the Federal Security Service, the Interior Ministry and the Federal Guard Service. They are the ones who, together with their comrades-in-arms, at a time of challenge for the country, threw themselves in the way of trouble which would have inevitably led to chaos.
You have defended the constitutional order, as well as the life, security and freedom of our citizens, steering our Motherland clear from upheavals and de facto stopping a civil war in its tracks.
In that complicated situation, you acted in a firm and coordinated manner, proving your commitment to the people of Russia and to your military oath through your actions and showing responsibility for the destiny and future of Russia.
Defence Ministry units, the National Guard, officers of the Interior Ministry and special services ensured reliable operation of all critical decision-making bodies, strategic facilities, including the defence ones, ensured the security of border regions, the rear lines of our Armed Forces, of all combat units which carried on with their heroic frontline operations during that time. We did not have to withdraw any combat troops from the special military operation zone.
Our comrades-in-arms – pilots – lost their lives while confronting the mutineers. They held their ground and fulfilled their orders and their military duty with honour. I am asking you to observe a minute of silence in tribute to their memory.
(Minute of silence.)
Comrades,
Your resolve and courage, along with consolidation of Russian society, played an essential and decisive role in bringing the situation back to normal. Those who were drawn into the mutiny saw that the army and the people were not with them.
The swift and well-managed deployment of defence, security and law enforcement units helped prevent the situation in the country from going down a very dangerous road and ensure that there were no civilian casualties.
I extend my gratitude to you and all the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies and security services for your service, courage and valour, for your devotion to the people of Russia.
(National anthem of Russia.)
Best of luck to you. Thank you.
Robert W Malone, MD, tweets his response to what Hungarian Foreign Affairs Minister Péter Szijjártó has asked in a recent interview:
Péter Szijjártó:“How on earth is it possible that someone blows up critical infrastructure on the territory of Europe and no one has a say, no one condemns, no one carries out an investigation?”Robert W Malone:"Psywars: There is no investigation because the leaders in the EU nations and the USA know exactly who blew up Nordstream. Hint: it wasn't the Russians.https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/statu...72741646479361
5th gen warfare tactic - confuse the populace with conflicting propaganda, until they can't tell up from down."
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... what he says: he ain't dead! So, what gives?
MORE U.S. Weapons for Ukraine = $500M / w Larry Johnson fmr CIA 22:39
Streamed live 39 minutes ago #Ukraine #Putin #Biden
https://yt3.ggpht.com/7sG2dx9yKbBfmA...00ffffff-no-rj Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom