The Putin Thread

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Posted by Tintin

Actually, David Icke might for once be wrong here

I can't access the Telegram account from work; who is the 'top' political scientist being quoted here? The source? (Smells a little like black propaganda being circulated.) Just a hunch.

Nobody is pure as the driven snow of course and that would apply to VP too but there are factions at play opposed to him, as well as those that support him.

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It seems a rapid growing trend that more and more "alternative media platforms" spread accusatory claims with no real sources given, no honest proper context given ... And in the world of diplomacy, politicians are not necessarily "in bed with each other" when shaking hands and/or smiling in front of a camera for the press.

I personally find it really extremely harrowing dumb that people use that as "evidence" claiming "they all are part of the same agenda" ... Meanwhile, I know that so many fall for this "guilty by association" assumption ... There are so many examples of people who really do not work together but are pushed to at least "talk to each other" so that others can have more peaceful beneficial common grounds/prosperties/economics etc ... In other words, both sides may represent different fractions of people who do not want endless wars nor economic sanctions etc. etc.

• I have always known that "diplomacy" is not what it seems!

It seems "friendly" it seems "they love it" ... but is all an act to show they know how the game is played ... That does not mean they "must" be part of a deeper agenda >>> but for certain "conspiracy researchers" it seems that way <<< and I get that, but I find it still dumb, sorry ... Yes, on super high levels that is beyond all the puppet politicians they have an end-goal and that is totalitarian technocratic "global governance"!

But not all (allegedly) "puppet politicians" have to go along with sacrificing so much for WEF - Agenda2030 - NetZero2050 - Great Reset - CBDC/ESG - NWO Tyranny - Depopulation Agenda etc.

If you know you are being used but you have different plans that is the opposite of the NWO Tyranny ... How would you plan to win this battle? ... By showing all cards openly or do you have to use (partly) deception tactics to fool your "overlords" that you do not want them to succeed!

• This issue, is something I always struggle with ... I never like mind-games & deceptive tactics, but these things seem inevitable in a world of fighting very powerful global psychopathic control freaks!

You can choose to do things that are done to outsmart these psychopaths ... at the same time you will be accused of "working for them" even if it is not the case.

It is so easy talking & judging on the side-line safely behind your desktop computer, safe from any consequences ... The "conspiracy accusations" on so many levels has become completely mainstream ... So much so, you do not even register as "awkward" anymore.

Too many are part of this discussion now that the vast majority can safely discuss this now ... Yes, there is still global coordinated censorship going on BUT it is not working for them, it only helps the resistance to grow faster!

In short: "nothing is as it seems" but this also goes for so many: "conspiracy memes" especially when there are no proper sources given! >>> Conjecture mixed with assumptions is partly the "new normal" in the "conspiracy research" world nowadays!

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cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'
July 10th, 2023 🦜🦋🌳

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Posted by Tintin

Actually, David Icke might for once be wrong here

I can't access the Telegram account from work; who is the 'top' political scientist being quoted here? The source? (Smells a little like black propaganda being circulated.) Just a hunch.

Nobody is pure as the driven snow of course and that would apply to VP too but there are factions at play opposed to him, as well as those that support him.

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It seems a rapid growing trend that more and more "alternative media platforms" spread accusatory claims with no real sources given, no honest proper context given ... And in the world of diplomacy, politicians are not necessarily "in bed with the other" when shaking hands and/or smiling in front of a camera for the press ... I personally find it really extremely harrowing dumb that people use that as "evidence" of "they all are part of the same agenda" ... Meanwhile, I know that so many fall for that "guilty by association" assumption. There are so many examples of people who really do not work together but are pushed to at least "talk to each other" so that others can have more peaceful beneficial common grounds/prosperties/economics etc. In other words, both sides may represent different fraction of people who do not want endless wars nor economic sanctions etc. etc.

• I have always known that "diplomacy" is not what it seems ...

It seems "friendly" it seems "they love it" ... but is all an act to show they know how the game is played. That does not mean they "must" be part of a deeper agenda >>> but for conspiracy researcher it seems that way and I get that, but I find it still dumb sorry ... Yes, on super high levels that is beyond all the puppet politicians they have an end-goal and that is totalitarian technocratic "global governance"!

But not all (allegedly) "puppet politicians" have to go along with sacrificing so much for WEF - Agenda2030 - NetZero2050 - Great Reset - CBDC/ESG - NWO Tyranny - Depopulation Agenda etc.

If you know you are being used but you have different plans that is the opposite of the NWO Tyranny ... How would you plan to win this battle? ... By showing all cards openly or do you have to use (partly) deception tactics to fool your "overlords" that you do not want them to succeed!

• This issue, is something I always struggle with ... I never like mind-games & deceptive tactics, but these things seem inevitable in a world of fighting very powerful psychopathic control freaks!

You can choose to do things that are done to outsmart these psychopaths ... at the same time you will be accused of "working for them" even if it is not the case.

It is so easy talking & judging on the side-line safely behind your desktop computer, safe from any consequences. The "conspiracy accusations" on so many levels has become completely mainstream ... so much, so you do not even register as "awkward" anymore. Too many are part of this discussion now that the vast majority can safely discuss this now ... Yes, there is still global coordinated censorship going on BUT it is not working for them, it only helps the resistance to grow faster!

In short: "nothing is as it seems" but this also goes for so many: "conspiracy memes" especially when there are no proper sources given! Conjecture mixed with assumptions is partly the "new normal" in the "conspiracy research" world nowadays! :facepalm:

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

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i concur with johns sentiments and i'm learning the hardway about the need for full explainantions when advancing controversial ideas/theories/evidence its best to be scientific with you're language.

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Actually, David Icke might for once be wrong here

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It seems a rapid growing trend that more and more "alternative media platforms" spread accusatory claims with no real sources given, no honest proper context given ...

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Yes. The davidicke.com website post quoted was very unlikely to have been written by David himself, and it merely copied a Russophobic Daily Mail article verbatim. Totally lazy and unthinking, and whoever did that should have known better.

A short 4 min excerpt from a conversation between Scott Ritter and Vladimir Soloviev, a Russian journalist very well placed to comment on: "Who is Vladimir Putin?".

Much of this synchronises with my observations on the man who is very very far away from the monster portrayed by our legacy media. And of course, for astrology buffs, it's very clear that he exhibits clear Libran traits in his public persona, and his engagements with others. That is, amongst other traits, he's a good listener and values relationships highly.

Vladimir Soloviev tells Scott Ritter what Putin is really like


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v37ni5y

3:21 minutes showing a Putin nobody here in the West ever gets to see:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bO70S_EywTE

Just 40 seconds:

Putin telling a dark joke (so much truth in it):

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dnj0Wqu-2o4

And another short video showing how well Putin understands global economics and how well he understands his enemies.
Out of everything profound he says here, the mainstream "Daily Mail" just takes the one light-hearted sidenote as their headline for this clip.
Astonishing.

Putin shows he takes other nations seriously, much more so than the West does. No wonder he is becoming quite popular in Africa.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8tI0VmcMG64

Here's an older clip of Vladimir Putin being, well, authoritative :) :muscle:

Source: https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/statu...86755912040711

Can't wait for the MSM outcry when Tucker gets to interview Putin. :)

Reports in RT said he is trying to get an interview, and MSM already spinning it as a propaganda boon for Putin if/when it happens.

2:08 minutes

As usual Putin doesn't mince words.
It's worth watching.

Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v27q5hm/?pub=4

• Ukraine Bombshell: Millions Of EU Citizens Are Praying Putin Will Win
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Showtime ! comedy relief... :chuckle:

Putin coming for US elections – Clinton

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high black witch :cat: :evil:

Former US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has predicted that Russian President Vladimir Putin will interfere in the 2024 election, repeating never-proven allegations from 2016 and 2020 in an interview with former White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Sunday.

“The Russians have proved themselves to be quite adept at interfering and if [Putin] has a chance, he’ll do it again,” Clinton claimed, insisting that the Russian leader, whom her campaign famously accused of propping up her Republican rival, Donald Trump, in 2016, “hates democracy.”

“He particularly hates the West, and he especially hates us,” she said, arguing that Putin was behind a deliberate strategy to “damage and divide” the US. The twice-failed candidate called on Americans to resist the purported tyranny of Russia’s “authoritarian dictator,” as well as his “apologists and enablers.”

“We have to reject a kind of creeping fascism of people who are really ready to turn over their thinking, their votes to wannabe dictators,” Clinton added.

more? ew ...

https://www.rt.com/news/583542-hilla...tion-meddling/

• Ex-CIA: Pentagon PANICS As Putin Exposes Biden’s Secret Agenda

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zn1LOyD29qI

In this interview between former CIA officer Ray McGovern and Stephen Gardner, several key topics were discussed including: Misleading Information on Russia and Ukraine: The interview begins by highlighting instances where Russia was blamed for actions taken by Ukraine, illustrating how misinformation can impact international relations. Poland's Investigation into a Missile Attack: Poland recently completed an investigation into a missile attack that killed two Polish individuals. The investigation revealed that the missile came from Ukraine, not Russia, causing tensions between Poland and Ukraine. Ukraine's Situation: The discussion touches on the challenges Ukraine faces, including internal conflicts, disputes with Poland, and the need for a ceasefire to prevent further casualties. US Domestic Politics and Impeachment: The interview delves into the impact of US domestic politics on international relations, citing the example of impeachment proceedings against former President Trump and potential legal issues involving President Biden. US-Russia-China Relations: Ray McGovern emphasizes the growing alliance between Russia and China, contrasting it with the United States' financial involvement in Ukraine and its implications for global politics. World Bank Funding for Ukraine: The World Bank's announcement that Ukraine needs substantial financial assistance for reconstruction is discussed, along with concerns about where the funding will come from. Energy Politics: The interview explores the role of energy politics in international relations, including the Nord Stream pipeline and its implications. Tony Blinken's Background and Views: Tony Blinken's academic background and his dissertation on US-European-Russian relations are mentioned, shedding light on his perspective on Russia's role in Europe.

Putin: “The fact that everyone applauded this Nazi (in Parliament) is absolutely disgusting. Especially the Zelensky, who has Jewish blood in his veins, stands there and applauds a Nazi, a person who killed Jewish people with his own hands.”

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• Many Hundreds Of Russian Nuclear Missiles Will Appear In The Air! Putin, Ukraine:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VRodfSApGKY

Putin answered a question about the possibility of changing Russia's nuclear doctrine.
Putin's speech at a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club. 2023.
Russian President Vladimir Putin took part in the plenary session of the 20th anniversary meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club 2023. In particular, they talked about events around Ukraine.

• The Prosperity Of Europe Was Based On Cheap Energy From Russia! Putin, Valdai 2023:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ImuQbdhMmEQ

The economy of the United States is growing, and the economy of Europe has already gone into recession! Why climb through the window if there are doors?! Putin's speech at a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club. 2023. Russian President Vladimir Putin took part in the plenary session of the 20th anniversary meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club 2023. In particular, they talked about events around Ukraine.

No quotes from of any of the leaders of Western nations, just the words of Vladimir Putin
Western nations ‘changing tune’ on defeating Russia – Putin
The stronger the nation is, the less its enemies will be trying to hurt it, the Russian president said
3 Nov, 2023 12:43
https://www.rt.com/russia/586503-put...raine-enemies/

Western nations, who previously insisted that Ukraine should defeat Russia on the battlefield, are gradually changing their position, President Vladimir Putin noted on Friday.

“They are changing their tune now, saying different things,” the Russian leader told members of the Civic Chamber, a civil society body tasked with consulting the government on policymaking.

Putin argued that the nation should become stronger in all aspects, including the economy, military, and political stability. Such strength deters hostile actors from trying to isolate Russia, he said.

“They (EU nations) excluded our energy. So what? What is the result? Our GDP will grow [up to] 3% this year, and the leading European economies are shrinking,” he noted.

“They suffer; they have real problems,” Putin added, noting that he was saying this without joy. “This doesn’t mean that we should behave aggressively. It means we must be sovereign in every sense of the word,” he concluded.

The US and its allies have accused Russia of launching an “unprovoked” attack on Ukraine last year and have pledged to support Kiev for “as long as it takes” to defeat Moscow. Washington has stated that its goal in Ukraine is to inflict a “strategic defeat” on Russia.

Moscow said the hostilities were caused by Western refusal to address Russia’s concerns about NATO expansion and Kiev’s discriminatory policies against Russian speakers after the 2014 armed coup. The US allegedly stopped the Ukrainian government from striking a truce in the first weeks of the ongoing conflict, which would have made it a neutral nation.

Kiev has declared that the only outcome it would accept is to push Russia out of all territories that it claims as its own, including Crimea. It has failed to secure any significant gains on the frontline during the so-called summer counteroffensive this year.

“Despite the supply of new kinds of NATO weapons, the Kiev regime is losing,” Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said earlier this week, assessing the battlefield situation.

Some important statements from Vladimir Putin, featuring the first time he's publicly linked the progress of the Ukraine SMO with the current very serious Palestinian problem.

https://t.me/MFARussia/18098

The text: (the bold emphasis is all in the original)

From President Vladimir Putin's speech during a meeting with members of the Security Council and Government, and heads of security agencies (October 30, 2023)

The events in Makhachkala last night were instigated also through social networks, not least from Ukraine, by agents of Western intelligences services. I would like to ask myself in this connection: is it possible to help Palestine by trying to attack the Tat people and their families? Tats, by the way, are the titular nation in Daghestan. The only way to help Palestine is to fight those who are behind this tragedy. We, Russia, are fighting them in a special military operation, fighting them for ourselves and for those who seek real, true freedom.

I never cease to be amazed by the Kiev regime and its overseas masters. We know that Bandera and other henchmen of Hitler have already been put on a pedestal of honour, we know and see how the Ukrainian leadership applauds the Nazis of the Second World War, who were guilty of the Holocaust victims, who personally took part in these crimes, and today, under the guidance of their Western patrons, are trying to instigate pogroms in Russia.

By the way, I am not sure whether all the leading circles in the same States are aware of this. It would not be a bad idea for those who care so much about the citizens of Israel to investigate what their security services are doing in Ukraine, whether they are trying to instigate pogroms in Russia.

But those who really stand up for truth and justice, who fight against evil and oppression, against racism and neo-Nazism, which the West encourages, are now fighting at the front – near Donetsk, Avdeyevka, on the Dnieper. I repeat: these are our soldiers and officers. And the choice of a real man, a true warrior, is to take up arms and stand in line with his brothers, to be there where the fate of Russia and, indeed, of the whole world, including the future of the Palestinian people, is being decided.

That speech is supposed to come from OUR leaders.

What are we to make of that?

Have we ever heard the words 'truth' and 'justice' in any context from the resident at the White House?