Printable View
MSOM SPECIAL REPORT SR5: Exposure - The Electromagnetic Human Test - James Grundvig
1,940 views•Sep 7, 2020
Making Sense Of The Madness
(Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1376941 )
Transcript here: https://johnmichaelchambers.com/5g-e...ic-human-test/
Bill:I hear you. I know where my allegiance lies. If it seems otherwise, I am sorry.Quote:
My own frustration is that I've done my very best to explain things, taking great care with my posts for accumulated hours and hours and hours, and the reaction is [sometimes] that I'm just some kind of orthodox-science, limited-intellect, closed-minded authority figure.
I always root for the underdog, and here it seems I have done it again. But if the words are read carefully I agreed with not accepting the epidemic at face value.
The fact of whether there is or is not an actual virus does not mitigate the very real fear the public has, or the confusion on how to respond to it. And because so much disinformation has mixed with the facts, it is not even clear that every response was and is still being implemented in various countries. From no lock down and no face masks to stage four dictatorial house arrest and Gestapo-type check points, everything has been tried.
As far as can be confirmed, no specific response has had better results than any other, except that it is fact that the collateral damage from severe draconian responses has caused the most harm. Some of that damage can be reversed, some is permanent.
It is also true that many are rethinking their lifestyles, and many are re-prioritizing what they consider important. It is unclear yet what consequences that will have. Indicators seem to point to major readjustments with a possibility of a profound impact on society going forward. Time will tell.
Gracy May:Quote:
e: Scientific Materialism versus Truth
Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
Maybe, just maybe, we can see better now why Wade says we must sing in the choir - because we must stand in solidarity. Without singing from the same hymnal, we are easily picked off one by one by our own biases and prejudices.
Exercise great care in choosing the right choir then Ernie.
If I find myself in a Walking Dead zombie apocalypse scenario, I know I need to get with a group to survive. But I'm not just going to choose any group, and it sure is heck won't be the one that's loudest, and trying to pressure me in.
No way Jose, I'm going with a group that's playing it smart. The loud groups may indeed be good people, but loud just winds up getting people killed, and that's not what I'm looking for.
I truly hope you never find yourself in a zombie apocalypse - but we have been given lots of training by Hollywood in that regard, haven't we?
The chorus of the song that choir sings is the reality of dirt cheap unlimited energy that will catapult humanity into an entirely novel epoch of abundance and fulfillment. The verses speak of that future and attempt to clarify the need for unity in order to bring that reality to fruition.
Some of the fine details are contentious to some but the meat of the matter is evident.
Not sure why scientific materialism has to conflict with truth. It is merely another perspective, worthy of every consideration, so long as the bias of that perspective is kept clearly in mind. Every perspective has its blind spots and no one has a monopoly on truth.
I agree that not enough attention is given to what may well be the reason behind all this media fear mongering.
Its good to look at Global Reset, New World Order and what may be going into vaccines.
The thought that there is a plot to reduce the human population and to interfere with the DNA -- insert chips via injection is so over the top to not be believed by most.
That does not make it untrue.
I support most of what David Icke says I do not support the website in which the video I recently posted appears.
Its policy--statements, takes away from another wise excellent video.
New information put out by Onawah is very important.
Her research second to none.
I have long felt that the law --- legality - will be the main way to defeat the cabal.
This is why I have reposted legal challenges which I have donated to.
There is little mention of these legal challenges in the UK media.
The media continues to fear monger as does the Government.
Gatherings of more than six people at home to be banned again in England amid fears of second coronavirus wave
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/gatherings...211232676.html
Chris
Some fallacies of physics.
Scientific materialism really kickstarted with Einstein’s dismissal of the aether theory.
Wilhelm Reich didn’t sound too impressed with Einstein in his book ‘The Function of the Orgasm’. I’d always been put off reading this book because after the sexual revolution of the 60’s and today’s hedonistic society, well who doesn’t know about about orgasms? Turns out this book is way more than just his theories on sexual energy, it’s an autobiography of his entire intellectual career from his work as a psychoanalyst under Freud, to why he broke away from the psychoanalytical crowd and began his own career researching different topics.
He was working as a psychoanalyst when Einstein’s theories were being promoted, of which he found Einstein’s theory of lifeless rocks floating around in space to sound a lot like the “return to the womb fantasies” his psychosis patients had been describing.
There was an experiment that was conducted around that time. The Michelson-Morley experiment, which was set up to prove or disprove the ancient aether theory of physics. Einstein said of the experiment that if aether drift proved accurate his theory of relativity would “collapse like a house of cards”.
James DeMeo has a great book detailing the controversy and shows how the harbingers of materialism falsified and ignored the results in order to keep their materialistic worldview intact.
========================THE DYNAMIC ETHER OF COSMIC SPACE:
CORRECTING A MAJOR ERROR IN MODERN SCIENCE,
by James DeMeo, PhD
Over 400 pages with 100+ photos and illustrations, references, index and two appendices.
The Cosmic Ether Changes Everything!
The historical ether-drift experiments of Michelson-Morley, Dayton Miller and others yielded positive results for an ether wind and light-speed variations of 5 to 18 kilometers per second. Academic bias and erasure has misrepresented these facts for over 120 years, to the point that few dare question today. Scientist James DeMeo reviews the original documents and archives, exposing the facts which demolish nearly all of the post-ether astrophysical theories, including Einstein's relativity, the "big bang", "black holes" and quantum magic. Cosmic ether exists and moves in a creative gravitational spiral vortex, as the long-sought prime mover and life-energy. A must-read item for the professional scientist, educated layperson and student, in ordinary language with minimal maths.
Part I, Cosmic Ether as Theory and Experimentally Confirmed Fact, includes 8 different chapters which firstly introduces the concept of ether, then details the late 18th and 19th Century experimenters who made its detection by increasingly sophisticated instruments. The interferometer experiments of Dayton Miller are introduced, exposing facts by direct quotations from their publications in mainstream science journals, of multiple positive detections of the ether. In most every case, from the early to the more recent ether-drift experiments, the cosmic axis of Earth's motion in space, in right ascension and declination were in close agreement with the Sun's motion through the galaxy, towards the star Vega. These experiments provide evidence violating a major starting assumption for Einstein's theory of relativity, showing that light speed is variable, depending upon direction in the cosmos.
Part II, The Empire Strikes Back: Erasure, Mystification and Falsification of History, covers the rise of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, and how he and his supporters managed to obscure and ignore the positive outcomes of the various ether-drift experiments. It also details the unethical "hatchet-job" against Dayton Miller's ether research, years after his death, by Einstein sycophant Robert Shankland, whose paper is still cited today as "definitive proof against Miller's ether-drift findings". That, it most certainly was not! Einstein's originally friendly, but later dismissive treatment of Miller is detailed, including his statements in private letters wherein he expressed deep concern that, if Miller's work was correct, then his theory of relativity would "collapse like a house of cards".
Part III, Into New Territory: Additional Evidence for a Material, Motional and Dynamic Ether, Dr. DeMeo overview findings from different disciplines, for a biologically-active and water-reactive cosmic life-energy. These findings are very agreeable to those of the ether-drift scientists, who postulated a material entrained ether. Direct evidence for the cosmic ether and ether-wind, by other names, are shown to have cosmic motions nearly identical to the older ether-drift findings: the interstellar wind, dark matter wind, cosmic ray wind, neutrino wind, and so forth. Seventeen different cosmological factors with nearly identical cosmic azimuth directions are identified in this study, integrating the older ether-drift findings with modern astronomy! The serious implications for modern astrophysical theory are detailed, even while empirical astronomy and space science engineering remain unchallenged. All the post-ether astrophysical theories are shown to be mired in mysticism and unproven assumptions.
The Dynamic Ether of Cosmic Space provides over 100 photos and graphical illustrations, with full references, an index, glossary and two Appendices. It is developed for the educated layperson and student, but most scientific professionals will find it eye-opening and refreshing.
A dynamic cosmic energy in space changes everything, indeed!
Out of the theory of relativity comes the world of quantum. Eric Dollard describes Quantum Mechanics as a “khazarian circle jerk” but that doesn’t stop the industry and the billions of dollars of funding that’s been injected into it.
There’s an electrical engineer who proposes a debunking of the ‘double split experiment’. The wave/particle paradox that the world of quantum builds its foundations on. His evidence shows the paradox can be explained, not by light being both a particle and a wave, but simply by the limitations of the measuring equipment that records the results, which gives the illusion of their being both a particle and a wave.
If so much of our modern understanding of science is built on false premises, does some of this confusion spill over into the world of viruses. Wilhelm Reich did some interesting work in his Book ‘The Cancer Biopathy’, which proposed a new theory of how disease enters and multiplies within the body. It’s no wonder his books were burned and censored after he was jailed and died in prison for his sins of questioning medical orthodoxy. But his research does prove there’s more to the phenomenon of disease than the majority of scientists that conduct today’s studies are aware of today.
"If so much of our modern understanding of science is built on false premises, does some of this confusion spill over into the world of viruses. Wilhelm Reich did some interesting work in his Book ‘The Cancer Biopathy’, which proposed a new theory of how disease enters and multiplies within the body. It’s no wonder his books were burned and censored after he was jailed and died in prison for his sins of questioning medical orthodoxy. But his research does prove there’s more to the phenomenon of disease than the majority of scientists that conduct today’s studies are aware of today. "
Thanks for this Jake, not throwing the baby out with the bath water, we are indebted to science for so much.
However, I think The Exome Theory is well worth investigating, any new theory will perhaps be rubbished by the establishment.
Eventually it will be proved valid or otherwise.
Professor Dolores Cahill said that the body is full of viruses waiting for something to trigger them.
Dont know if she was alluding to Exome theory or not.
All a mystery to me as yet but I am curious about this theory.
Chris
Just to clarify, I didn't suggest to throw the exome theory out altogether. It's more the notions of whether we 'catch' a virus from others, or like Delores cahill says, are pre-existing cells activated through internal and external environmental conditions.Quote:
Posted by greybeard
The sciences never having been my strong suit, I wasn't aware of that earlier origin of the term "scientific materialism".
When I entitled this thread, I was thinking more along the lines of how I've been seeing the term used more recently, describing how profit has become the goal of so much science today, rather than arriving at truth, or improving the lot of humankind.
I didn't realize Reich shared the same tragic fate as Tesla and so many other martyrs to Truth.
May this crucible we are suffering through now lead to a new era where science becomes truly humanitarian rather than a tool and plaything for the greedy and power-hungry...
As we are reminded of those heroes, we can at least send them all a silent message of gratitude for all that they sacrificed.
My hope is that the more those of us who can see the forest for the trees expose the lies, the less self-sacrifice will be the price for revealing the truth.
Thanks for your considered contributions!
Quote:
Posted by Jayke
Scientific materialism may break down in the micro world of quantum physics, and there may have been a wrong turning taken in early 20th-century science. But it works well enough on the macro level of everyday reality, in a court of law, for example, where corroborating evidence rightly takes precedence over intimate convictions. Forensic science is important in many ways known and yet unknown. One being Bayesian statistics applied to tax fraud: the numbers added up, but they were demonstrably made-up numbers. See this post.
There are three areas where (deliberate) error, stealth and deception are strategic tools: warfare, crime, and government. In war, resistance fighters can make these things ethically justified when defending against an aggressor. Criminals use these devices to dodge responsibility by hiding their crime or making it look accidental. And governments have all sorts of layers of secrecy to paper over the gap between their promises and their action.
Government and crime. This is an area that calls for full spectrum treatment. Whenever stealth is used, the forensic approach will be necessary. However, we have reached the point where in-your-face truth is being served up. Only the other day, the British government brazenly admitted in Parliament that it intended to break international law. This crime is not only in the mainstream newspapers, it is there in the official video parliamentary record.
You don’t need to be a scientist to witness this in flagrante delicto. Here scientific materialist inquiry makes way for simple truth for the whole world to see and hear from the horse’s mouth. Something else we get to see: every week Boris Johnson stands squirming in parliament facing the opposition as if he were in the dock under cross-examination by the former director of public prosecutions Keir Starmer. See this post. In such cases, there is no distinction required between criminality and incompetence because you are dealing at best with criminal incompetence/negligence, which is incompetence with some degree of probable intent. The criminal element came to the surface the other day – only with a reversal of roles, with Johnson accusing Starmer of being a former terrorist (IRA) sympathizer.
Here is a recent fairly trivial example. The other day, tennis champion Novak Djokovic was thrown out of the US Open for hitting a ball in anger that struck a line judge, after losing a couple of important games. Had it not hit anyone (in an empty stadium), he would have got off with a warning, but the punishment is automatic because it is always a dangerous thing to do. One of the challenges of this sport is learning to let off steam in ways that don’t hurt people, i.e. deal with internal issues with no external violence. Whatever the source or nature of the Covid virus, the elite are behaving exactly in the same fashion; they are losing their grip on the power game, and taking it out on people. They are totally out of line long before they begin murdering virus sufferers. The next question being, is that what they are doing?
Note, the above is not a blanket statement. Pandemic precautions being what they are, i.e. things a fascist dictatorship might impose, a benevolent government (I believe they do exist) needs to make sure it is understood as acting in one’s best interests. Measures from lengthy hospitalization down to quarantining and face masks are not automatically equitable with stealing our freedoms, provided the threat is real.
Government and warfare. Stealth is a weapon of war. In 1944, Eisenhower took every step to feint a landing across the Straits of Dover before landing in Normandy. What we are talking about here is the next level up: war by stealth. This is nothing new: the CIA has been conducting clandestine wars around the world for seventy years. Economics and political unrest have been the usual weapons, but even a pandemic is nothing new.
I remember Macron saying at the beginning of the pandemic, ‘We are at war’. This begins to make some sense when we consider that a virus is another weapon of war, and would be an ideal one for a war by stealth. See this post.
We have a good idea of the conflicting forces, but we are not always sure who or what is one which side. As I describe in the above linked post, the Covid virus is ambiguous. Is it a harmless virus with sometimes devastating effects, or a killer virus that is mostly pretty harmless. If it were human, it would be a secret agent, possibly a double agent.
This is a grey area along a spectrum having scientific materialism at one end and absolute truth at the other. Absolute truth I take to be the totality of reality; relative truth an individual perception of that reality. What humanity needs is somewhere in between: a global truth that parcels together 8 billion individual perceptions, in other words a workable minimum of peace. This spectrum includes a parameter we call causality. At the causal end, you have scientific materialism, with particles of matter behaving causally. Of course, there comes a point when the tiniest particles turn out to behave acausally/unpredictably and science freaks out. At the acausal end, you have absolute truth, where everything is at the same time; I quoted Jack True: confusion is part of the process. The huge grey area in the middle I call concomitance.
Things happen because everything happens. Causality is just our way of stringing them together and trying to make sense of the world. There may be an acausal link within a given particle/thing/individual. The virus as described above could go through both slits in the double-slit experiment. Likewise, Donald Trump might have two souls, making him a double agent, although on a different level than working for Russia. ‘Making America great again’ is a two-edged slogan. When was America last great? A very long time ago, some would say.
I have a great deal of work to do on this subject of concomitance, but even within the domain of causality, a hidden cause or operative can always override an overt one. If you want to harm Putin, for instance, you could do worse that poison his main opponent and blame Putin. But then again, Putin could be using this as his excuse: he didn’t do it but the job was done. But then again… This is what happens when deception takes over.
Here is an interesting thought from today’s Le Monde newspaper. (In French)
In France, in late August, positive cases had soared to their April peak (and now are way above), and yet there are hardly any deaths (3% of the maximum rate) or even hospitalizations (4%). The article concludes by explaining how five times more tests producing the same number of positives suggests that back then there must have been not 7,000 cases but 100,000 – demonstrating both that back then the virus was fifteen times less lethal than supposed, and that the current numbers are still lower than in April, although up on June/July. Donald Trump says the same thing and is laughed at by all and sundry. Why? Perhaps because all and sundry are seeing his ‘other soul’ being dumb as usual. It would suit his smarter side to keep out of sight.
araucaria
I love your examples, very relevant.
Chris
It seems clear that even among reputable scientists, the whole subject of viruses --whether they exist as defined, how they function, their origins, etc. is still controversial.
For any individual, whether they are familiarized with the science or not, as Mike stated in a recent post (see that following), what you think about it often will just boil down to who you TRUST.
Bill, you obviously trust Dr. Martenson while I and others here on Avalon trust other reputable sources who don't always agree with his analyses.
I don't think that's necessarily because we are too simple minded or unfocused to understand what's going on, or because our priorities aren't in the right order, or we are too lazy to apply ourselves sufficiently to the task.
It's all definitely very confusing, made all the more so by the fact that often the most profound testimonies come from experts like Dr. Andrew Wakefield, Dr, Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Judy Mikovits, whose credentials and reputations were generally held to be in high standing up until the time that they took the incredible risk of blowing the whistle, and then their reputations were smeared, their careers were ruined, their very lives were threatened.
(Although in the long run, it has made their word all the more worthy of trust, imho, much more so than those sources who still are supported and paid and basically controlled by TPTB. )
And all the more reason why the onus of so much confusion should not fall on the shoulders of questioners and dissenters, as confusion and obfuscation is obviously one of the goals of TPTB.
Because the more distracted we are, the easier it is for them to continue with their NWO agenda, step by step, and masking and testing (no matter how ineffective or inaccurate) are obviously important steps in that agenda.
I'm sure that's obvious to you as well, Bill, so I don't understand why those two aspects of the plandemic have become such a bone of contention here on Avalon.
In the matter of masking, I personally trust the judgement and ethics of RF Kennedy Jr.;though he is not a scientist, he knows and works with many scientists personally and he and his team are devoted researchers.
See:
(The controversy around the efficacy/accuracy of the Covid testing rages on, but I won't go into that here; I think Greybeard has covered that very well elsewhere on this thread and elsewhere.)Quote:
Posted by onawah
Bill, even though I don't always agree with your opinions, I don't think that you are "some kind of orthodox-science, limited-intellect, closed-minded authority figure" or I never would have remained here so long or also put in all the "great care and accumulated hours and hours" that I have.
(I speak for others as well, I'm sure, but speaking just for me, it's to the point now where now my eyesight is suffering and I am developing symptoms of carpel tunnel syndrome and frozen shoulder in my right arm because of so much time spent on my computer.)
But that shouldn't mean that we always have to align with your opinions or your idea about what Avalon is, Bill ( or anyone's on the staff), or otherwise be subjected to lecturing, ridicule, belittlement condescension, banning, etc.
That's certainly much less the case here than on other forums, and I understand that, but it still happens here.
Bill:If I'm wrong, then please feel free to unsubscribe me. :sad: You might actually be doing me a favor...! :nod:Quote:
If that's what you think I am, after all this time, then please leave now. I mean it. Get the hell outta here. You've not learned a thing about myself or Avalon.
But I don't think there is any way that you can reasonably expect to dictate what someone else's idea of Avalon should be.
And speaking for myself, no offense intended, but I didn't come to Avalon to learn about you or anyone else here (though that has certainly been part of the process) but to learn about what is going on in the world that isn't being covered by the mainstream media, and to compare notes and share information that helps in that process.
Bill:As to any questions regarding the intended topic of this thread, I was hoping the subtitle, which is "Follow the Science...or Follow the Money?" would make that more clear.Quote:
:focus: (whatever that is!)
Apologies if I failed in that.
(We all bring our failings as well as our strengths to the forum--the lesson perhaps is in developing tolerance...)
I did not fully understand initially that the term "scientific materialism" applied so much to theories in physics and that has probably caused some confusion.
The way in which I have been hearing that term applied lately (and the way in which I intended it to be applied here) has had to do with the unprincipled manner in which science has been hijacked by those in the corporatocracy with the means to do so, in order to serve materialistic goals (and genocidal NWO goals) and firstly and primarily -- to earn profits in furtherance of those goals.
Rather than in service to Life, and working in harmony with Nature.
Instead, continually and arrogantly trying to improve on Nature or simply to corrupt it.
And in so doing, to further corrupt and obfuscate the truth by censoring those who dissent and point out the fallacy in those misguided goals.
So my goal is to gain more clarity as to which sources of information are which, and, inasmuch as there is confusion and division here on Avalon as to which is which, to help resolve that schism, and to identify where we may have been misled and misled to censor others who are attempting to lay bare the lies.
I hope any confusion as to the intent and purpose of this thread has been cleared up now. :flower:
Quote:
Posted by Mike
Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanUpdate: the number of sequences done is now 51,998. (Probably >52,000 by the time you've finished reading this post!)Quote:
Posted by silvanelf
The lab techniques to isolate the virus for gene sequencing are different from fast-track, thousands-in-a day, drive-thru clinical testing. (And yes, that testing is (a) misused, (b) misreported, and (c) a very blunt instrument.)
My advice to [some] members reading this:
Focus on government and international agendas. Not the science of what the virus is — because many posting, despite their good intentions, still don't understand this all very well.
Those well-meaning folks are often just mixing everything up into a giant stirred-up stew that's
And making one-sentence statements that "it's just like the flu" helps no-one. (Certainly not those who have the thing.) People were saying this in January!
- frequently inaccurate or not fully accurate (and sometimes just plain wrong)
- confusing to many reading this stuff. (I've been told this by visitors.)
If people reading this don't fully understand what the heck a virus is after 8 months of discussion and an enormous amount of simplified, well-illustrated, publicly available information, the odds may be against suddenly having an 'Aha' moment and understanding it all now.
My own frustration is that I've done my very best to explain things, taking great care with my posts for accumulated hours and hours and hours, and the reaction is [sometimes] that I'm just some kind of orthodox-science, limited-intellect, closed-minded authority figure.
If that's what you think I am, after all this time, then please leave now. I mean it. Get the hell outta here. You've not learned a thing about myself or Avalon.
Whether you think the virus is real or not, it's how the authorities are handling it all that matters. Nothing else.
Get real, get focused, and get your priorities right.
:focus: (whatever that is!)
~~~Quote:
Posted by onawahIt seems clear that even among reputable scientists, the whole subject of viruses --whether they exist as defined, how they function, their origins, etc. is still controversial.
For any individual, whether they are familiarized with the science or not, as Mike stated in a recent post (see that following), what you think about it often will just boil down to who you TRUST.
Bill, you obviously trust Dr. Martenson while I and others here on Avalon trust other reputable sources who don't always agree with his analyses.
I don't think that's necessarily because we are too simple minded or unfocused to understand what's going on, or because our priorities aren't in the right order, or we are too lazy to apply ourselves sufficiently to the task.
It's all definitely very confusing, made all the more so by the fact that often the most profound testimonies come from experts like Dr. Andrew Wakefield, Dr, Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Judy Mikovits, whose credentials and reputations were generally held to be in high standing up until the time that they took the incredible risk of blowing the whistle, and then their reputations were smeared, their careers were ruined, their very lives were threatened.
(Although in the long run, it has made their word all the more worthy of trust, imho, much more so than those sources who still are supported and paid and basically controlled by TPTB. )
And all the more reason why the onus of so much confusion should not fall on the shoulders of questioners and dissenters, as confusion and obfuscation is obviously one of the goals of TPTB.
Because the more distracted we are, the easier it is for them to continue with their NWO agenda, step by step, and masking and testing (no matter how ineffective or inaccurate) are obviously important steps in that agenda.
I'm sure that's obvious to you as well, Bill, so I don't understand why those two aspects of the plandemic have become such a bone of contention here on Avalon.
In the matter of masking, I personally trust the judgement and ethics of RF Kennedy Jr.;though he is not a scientist, he knows and works with many scientists personally and he and his team are devoted researchers.
See:
(The controversy around the efficacy/accuracy of the Covid testing rages on, but I won't go into that here; I think Greybeard has covered that very well elsewhere on this thread and elsewhere.)Quote:
Posted by onawah
Bill, even though I don't always agree with your opinions, I don't think that you are "some kind of orthodox-science, limited-intellect, closed-minded authority figure" or I never would have remained here so long or also put in all the "great care and accumulated hours and hours" that I have.
(I speak for others as well, I'm sure, but speaking just for me, it's to the point now where now my eyesight is suffering and I am developing symptoms of carpel tunnel syndrome and frozen shoulder in my right arm because of so much time spent on my computer.)
But that shouldn't mean that we always have to align with your opinions or your idea about what Avalon is, Bill ( or anyone's on the staff), or otherwise be subjected to lecturing, ridicule, belittlement condescension, banning, etc.
That's certainly much less the case here than on other forums, and I understand that, but it still happens here.
Bill:If I'm wrong, then please feel free to unsubscribe me. :sad: You might actually be doing me a favor...! :nod:Quote:
If that's what you think I am, after all this time, then please leave now. I mean it. Get the hell outta here. You've not learned a thing about myself or Avalon.
But I don't think there is any way that you can reasonably expect to dictate what someone else's idea of Avalon should be.
And speaking for myself, no offense intended, but I didn't come to Avalon to learn about you or anyone else here (though that has certainly been part of the process) but to learn about what is going on in the world that isn't being covered by the mainstream media, and to compare notes and share information that helps in that process.
Bill:As to any questions regarding the intended topic of this thread, I was hoping the subtitle, which is "Follow the Science...or Follow the Money?" would make that more clear.Quote:
:focus: (whatever that is!)
Apologies if I failed in that.
(We all bring our failings as well as our strengths to the forum--the lesson perhaps is in developing tolerance...)
I did not fully understand initially that the term "scientific materialism" applied so much to theories in physics and that has probably caused some confusion.
The way in which I have been hearing that term applied lately (and the way in which I intended it to be applied here) has had to do with the unprincipled manner in which science has been hijacked by those in the corporatocracy with the means to do so, in order to serve materialistic goals (and genocidal NWO goals) and firstly and primarily -- to earn profits in furtherance of those goals.
Rather than in service to Life, and working in harmony with Nature.
Instead, continually and arrogantly trying to improve on Nature or simply to corrupt it.
And in so doing, to further corrupt and obfuscate the truth by censoring those who dissent and point out the fallacy in those misguided goals.
So my goal is to gain more clarity as to which sources of information are which, and, inasmuch as there is confusion and division here on Avalon as to which is which, to help resolve that schism, and to identify where we may have been misled and misled to censor others who are attempting to lay bare the lies.
I hope any confusion as to the intent and purpose of this thread has been cleared up now. :flower:
Quote:
Posted by Mike
Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanUpdate: the number of sequences done is now 51,998. (Probably >52,000 by the time you've finished reading this post!)Quote:
Posted by silvanelf
The lab techniques to isolate the virus for gene sequencing are different from fast-track, thousands-in-a day, drive-thru clinical testing. (And yes, that testing is (a) misused, (b) misreported, and (c) a very blunt instrument.)
My advice to [some] members reading this:
Focus on government and international agendas. Not the science of what the virus is — because many posting, despite their good intentions, still don't understand this all very well.
Those well-meaning folks are often just mixing everything up into a giant stirred-up stew that's
- frequently inaccurate or not fully accurate (and sometimes just plain wrong)
- confusing to many reading this stuff. (I've been told this by visitors.)
And making one-sentence statements that "it's just like the flu" helps no-one. (Certainly not those who have the thing.) People were saying this in January!
If people reading this don't fully understand what the heck a virus is after 8 months of discussion and an enormous amount of simplified, well-illustrated, publicly available information, the odds may be against suddenly having an 'Aha' moment and understanding it all now.
My own frustration is that I've done my very best to explain things, taking great care with my posts for accumulated hours and hours and hours, and the reaction is [sometimes] that I'm just some kind of orthodox-science, limited-intellect, closed-minded authority figure.
If that's what you think I am, after all this time, then please leave now. I mean it. Get the hell outta here. You've not learned a thing about myself or Avalon.
Whether you think the virus is real or not, it's how the authorities are handling it all that matters. Nothing else.
Get real, get focused, and get your priorities right.
:focus: (whatever that is!)
Natalie, I don't "trust" researchers that I read or listen to — in any subject. I do whatever work I have to to understand what they're saying, follow their logic or hypotheses, and then decide for myself whether their presentations are likely to be flawed or reliable.
I do that with virology, ufology, astrophysics, cryptozoology, and quite a few other subjects I have knowledge of and/or are fairly well qualified to take a good close look at — including whether or not a missile took out Beirut harbor on 4 August. :)
Others, through no fault of their own, aren't in a position to do that. So they rely on "trust" instead.
Anyone is entitled to do that, and humans rely on interpersonal judgment and trust a very great deal: when choosing a romantic partner, or maybe considering a job offer, the purchase of a house or used car, or even when bartering in a market.
People do that often using subtle cues, like tone of voice, facial expression, eye movement, and all aspects of presentation of just about anything at all. Even the music accompanying YouTube videos.
We have to understand that most presentations are tying to "sell" something. For instance, an idea: many videos use persuasion in all its subtle aspects, and their goal is to persuade the viewer or listener to accept their ideas or worldview. And many people "buy" (or not!), just as if they were responding to a car salesman.
But that's not science. That's something much more likely to let you down sometime unless you're VERY VERY good at it.
You mentioned Chris Martenson, and he's one of the very few who does NOT do this. He presents research papers that anyone can read. He interprets others' ideas in a very user-friendly and easily-understandable way. He's not trying to persuade you of anything. The only axe he grinds is trying to get to some useful truth.
Most others have an agenda that they're selling. Caveat emptor.
That applies in the alternative media every bit as much as it does in the mainstream.
You've said many times (and kudos for your honesty :flower: ) that you're no scientist. But that leaves you relying a great deal on trust. All I can say about that is that you gotta have that trustworthiness-evaluation skill down to a very high level to be consistently correct.And it works the other way round. Others DIStrust, for the same basic human-nature reasons — because they don't fully understand.
So trust, or distrust, is all they can fall back on. That's closer to my original point.There are many people on Avalon who are arguing points based on trust, or distrust.
But I'm actually trying to talk about truth — which was in the title of your thread.
When it comes to truth, Natalie, you're really just guessing, and hoping that you're right. (And you may be! But I'm describing the process here.) And my process is different.
I try to explain things so that people will understand, but then they don't trust me either — and we get nowhere at all. I might as well not try.Do you understand what I'm saying here? :)
Yes, I understand Bill, but I think that intuition and clairvoyance get very short shrift when it comes to comparisons and discussions about science.
And that is why I think science and spirituality don't always meet all that well on Avalon.
Shamans, psychics, and dare I say it, some INFJs (of which I am one) can arrive at truth without doing all that incremental work that science demands.
Developing the third eye (Intuition) allows us to see reality more directly than the third chakra (Intellect) without always knowing all the "facts", and to connect the dots by what appears to intellectuals to be taking impermissible "short cuts".
The developed crown chakra (Imagination) allows us to imagine what might be, without knowing precisely how to get there; seeing what the future might bring, and thereby that from the past which might be proven in the future to be false.
Both demand a lot of focus too, though of a very different sort, and certainly a lot of work on personal evolution.
Most people are operating from the first 3 levels, and so the higher levels are not as well understood or accepted.
Highly developed intuition and imagination are by no means the result of intellectual laziness, though they may appear to be more effortless.
In this age of materialism, people operating from the higher chakras don't get a lot of credit and often won't risk the ridicule they are subjected to if they make any claims to such abilities or share what they know to be true.
When I speak of the process of finding who to trust, it's not just guesswork or trust in chosen authorities I'm referring to, it's also the use of those higher faculties in choosing who to believe, as well as gut instinct, which is also not without value.
And I don't make any claim to having those abilities more developed than anyone else--but I will say that in many cases, there is an equal if not greater general lack of understanding about how and why there are ways of arriving at legitimate conclusions that can be just as, if not more valid than the intellectual process, which is what mainstream science is so very dependent on.
The late Dr. Christopher Hills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hills
wrote extensively on that subject, and he was very far ahead of his time.
He described himself as operating primarily from intuition but he was obviously also very much an intellectual, so I think he must have had an ability to evaluate both realms quite accurately, judging from the prodigious amount of writing he did.
I lke to cross reference hence posting experts with a whole lifetime in their field --experts who have been peer reviewed like Professor Dolores Cahill-- whose reputation has been smeared.
To many similar cases to mention here.
This post has numerous cross references
Is his research to be doubted?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1377275
COVID diagnostic test: worst test ever devised?
by Jon Rappoport
September 10, 2020
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020...-ever-devised/
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1377275
Do we trust David Icke ridiculed for years but one of the best researchers there is?
Dont acquiesce, one of the best pieces of advice
Chris
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/virus...ImyIF4Pdv.html
Pursuing the ideal of ‘double agents’ such as viruses and presidents, the concept may also be applied to materialism, as being both an idea and a thing. Materialism is to be found on both sides of the ideological argument, in the form of Marxism in the East, in the form of the accumulation of wealth in the American dream. World conflict is derived from the fact that, as a concept, materialism is self-contradictory in that, as a thing, it has two expressions, namely communism and capitalism. Capitalists, those notorious idealists, are inveterate materialists. And communists, those notorious materialists, are notably idealistic.
Hence, you see two forms of materialism: historical materialism (it’s the economy, stupid!), and dialectical materialism, which are both somewhat oxymoronic, as I shall explain. Scientific materialism is another oxymoron or ‘double agent’.
Since dialectical materialism asserts the power of dialectics (thesis v antithesis > synthesis), then dialectics apply to the materialism concept itself. See this post. The antithesis of materialism being idealism, then this means that some idealistic element is injected into the process to take it to a higher level. The same happens with historical materialism, where the idealistic element is of course money. What was originally all about things and their exchange (barter) has turned into little more than an idea (numbers on a screen), materialistic wealth being the very real things that this funny money can buy. Scientific materialism is antidialectical materialism as practised by science, and comes unstuck when it discovers experimentally that not everything is matter as we know it. In other words, dialectics also apply to such antidialectical materialism, and you end up with some form of idealistic science.
Another way of seeing this is to say that we abandon universals for the world of particulars. I know, this is to place the emphasis somewhat on the material: for an idea as to why and how this might be, see this thread, dealing with ‘scientific nihilism’. The universe is everything that is, or rather it is everything that is plus everything that is not, i.e. a synthesis of all things and all ideas, a synthesis of materialism and idealism. Such a universe by definition cannot be one of countless multiverses: it is all those multiverses taken collectively. So when scientists veer off in the opposite directions of cosmology and subparticle physics, they have totally drifted away from any kind of materialism towards pure idealism. Counter-intuitive, maybe, but see this post by Mike Gorman.
The tentative working conclusion then has to be that, like the open-ended Richter scale, we are talking about an open-ended scale where universality is an abstract concept tending towards taking concrete form without ever getting there. Infinity seen as a process rather than a thing, where everything is infinitely tiny and infinitely huge at any level. On the Richter scale of destruction, somewhere around 15 (?) indicates an exploding planet. There will be values further down the line corresponding to an exploding solar system, an exploding galaxy and so on. On the other hand, this universal scale is one of exploding creation. The notion of Imagination explored by Jon Rappoport with Jack True covers the operation of endlessly creating reality, i.e. being ungrounded. For me the purpose of being ungrounded is… to be grounded in a better place for a better world. Since we are all in this together, our ambitious personal creativity will naturally be tempered by everyone else’s, leading unreasonably, perhaps, to disappointment. We should not be disappointed but keep going, because the synthesis of idealism and materialism is process, and confusion is part of the process. As many people have been discovering during lockdown, love in the abstract is all well and good, but being in the physical plane, we need the physical expressions of a kiss, a hug, a caress, a loving word. Let’s keep it simple :)
My field of expertise was psychology (Hypnotherapy NLP Psychotherapy)
Hence I am well aware of agenda, motivation,conditioning -- perceived pay value.
Aware of my own too, so restrict to the best of my ability.
I see repetition, memes, subtle devaluation of posts.
Not the slightest bothered as people are entitled to express in anyway they choose.
In the media this is very evident to a retired profe ssional like me.
But not so to Joe average --they see it as truth not propaganda.
Funnily enough some of the best psychological advice is to be found in spiritual text.
"You are never angry for the reason you think you are" ACIM
It takes experience to look beyond the presenting anger and see what lies there, yet I dont make assumptions,
Its up to people to investigate what they present to the world-- very few do.
Most make the same mistakes over and over without seeing a pattern.
The third eye has to do with pattern recognition.
Intuition not to be dismissed lightly.
So I hope now the focus goes on what is happening now in the world rather than science.
Where is all this leading to, what can we do about it?
Dont acquiesce.
For UK people
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442/
Chris
Repeatedly we are being presented with case stories of persons with these new symptoms that are being labelled as a novel virus covid19. It is told to be extremely contagious, for some even severe and deadly. But analyzing statistics it are rather exceptions who become that seriously ill from nothing else than the virus
Naturopaths have their holistic approach of disease : “ the terrain is everything , the microbe is nothing”.
I think that is right ( in sofar that one knows how to keep his terrain in good shape) but something important is missing : a holistic view of the population of the planet as a group.
This group is trying hard , like in the Avalon forum, to find truth and as a result a better life and future. The group is trying to move into a higher spiritual state. But what if this process has been booby-trapped ? As in mythical tales were the soul has to cross a chasm with deadly danger?
The group is like a body and some of its members are like cells who get extremely ill or even die.
It is important to realize as a group that it is in such process.
I am no New-ager and do not know if Gaia is one being, but there is the knowledge of spiritual inter-connectedness . Like the skin is one organ, but an ulcer or rash appears only in some places.
What I have been missing in the reports of Avalon members who got the covid disease is a description of their daily lifestyle over the last years or longer. This to establish how their ‘terrain” may have been weakened.
It was not revealed for Avalon’s Hervé , probably because it’s health privacy and as a security measure. But I just don’t believe that a bio-weapon virus makes it to a small remote village.
From William Sanford we got more information but it’s still not enough to find answers why he specifically got this disease out of nowhere and not his family.
The same for Frank V. We only know that he functions with full trust in computer science to analyze a virus where this science is used to keep the planet in a state of dependency and slavery.
We have not sufficiently thought how these strange symptoms of a respiratory disease may have been triggered from the distant past.
Some call this an archetypal influence. I appreciate that member Jayke makes a reference to that. It is certainly a good concept to understand what may be there. This whole covid virus story just does not make sense And that is proven by several members who resist the scientific explanations and the focus on a virus.
The story starts to make more sense if one sees the struggle of the group as a whole and by looking at the virus as a symptom of underlying spiritual entrapment and hazard.
I considered the following definitions:
Archetype in Psychoanalysis:
(in Jungian theory) a primitive mental image inherited from the earliest human ancestors, and supposed to be present in the collective unconscious.
Holistic Medicine: What It Is, Treatments, Philosophy, and More
www.webmd.com ›
Holistic medicine practitioners believe that the whole person is made up of interdependent parts and if one part is not working properly, all the other parts will be affected. In this way, if people have imbalances (physical, emotional, or spiritual) in their lives, it can negatively affect their overall health.Mar 18, 2020
Notes:
- I could not study all posts on this thread and the controversy.
- Do I have subjective reality about what I wrote. On a personal level yes, but we are still in the group process in my opinion
The media highlights anything that spreads fear of the virus to the degree that people in UK are driving miles to be tested-- such is the belief in validity of the virus, hence my repetitive posts contrary to this being a valid accurate reliable test.
You will not get the media highlighting the no of suicides, nor the number of people having adverse effects to wearing masks.
My Ex a nurse of quite a few years and disgustingly healthy passed out at work through wearing a mask.
She and other nurses comparing notes -- she is not alone in this.
She not the kind of person to go on protests but the one in Edinburgh attracted her.
A bus load from Inverness went.
The media (u tube etc) does not delete posts advocating masks but deletes those of science on u tube stating, it is not healthy to wear one and the adverse effect on the Kids.
So Im inclined to believe those who have reputations trashed and U tube presentations deleted --just too many professionals going against the official narrative that the virus is the most deadly thing since -- you put a name to it.
Members are entitled to support wearing masks and that the test is ok, if that is their choice.
Im posting information for guests -- not trying to influence members.
Members are welcome to criticize my posts there in lies the value of a balanced forum
Guests can make up their own minds too.
Chris
My emphasis.Quote:
Posted by greybeard
Chris.Quote:
Posted by greybeard
Stepping far enough back from this issue to see the forum as a guest may view it, there is something else you need to consider. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the oil, often times the listener hears it to such great extent, that the sound begins to be ignored, and slowly fades on off into the backdrop of daily consciousness.
I did some quick basic math, and of the 98 posts thus far in this thread, 27 are yours. Someone scrolling through this thread will see that smiling face of yours 28% of the time. You're even light years ahead of two others adament in these issues, with onowah's current post count here at 15 (15%), and delight at 9 (9%).
Adding together the drumbeat of all three equals a whopping 52% of all posts on this thread, with you leading the charge!
Chris (and others), often times less is more. Don't think for one second that everyone in the general vicinity, from passing guest to members posting daily, don't know precisely how you feel about certain matters, and why.
They've got it.
Essentially what you're doing at this point by pounding that drum even more incessantly, is the exact opposite of what you're hoping for. Any more, rather than people curious to see your next opinion, they're just thinking to themselves "oh there he is again", and moving on to something else.
You have a background in psychology? This is Psychology 101.
Perhaps a look at the number of posts advocating the use of masks and saying the tests are valid might give balance.
Most times my posts are in response to these, they are not in isolation.
Also look at the number of times per day the Government Memes come upon TV Papers Radio.
Funnily enough Eckhart Tolle and other spiritual teachers have been saying identical things for many years.
Thousands a week visit this thread to hear the same old.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1377288
Of course you are correct in what you say Gracy May
People can check my posts or not as the case might be -- freedom of choice.
They do evolve with latest info on the subject from reputable sources.
Its not just repeat of my opinion, which as said may be flawed.
People have come to believe the propaganda of the official narrative, through being exposed to repetition
Chris
Ps We are at war --its not about proving anything --its about winning this battle against evil. Thats what beating a drum is about.
Is COVID-19 virus an Exosome? Ken Witwer+Jan Lötvall - the extracellular vesicle angle
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UY4pJaGJgkA
For this video Jan Lötvall has invited Ken Witwer to discuss the overlap between extracellular vesicles (EV) and virus. Specifically we discuss the way by which enveloped viruses use the host membranes to produce virions (the virus particle).
DISCLAIMER: Nothing said in this vlog-podcast should be considered to be final scientific facts, as we primarily introduce hypotheses and thoughts about the topic, even though these are educated. We also have a discussion how EVs could be involved in the disease, and how EVs from different sources could be utilized as therapeutics. Importantly, all of these comments are speculations, and do not convey any recommendation. All therapies to be tested in COVID-19 should undergo proper processes and approvals before being tested in patients.
I must say I find this interesting --Im learning -- I have no opinion
Chris
If I may just step in here briefly to add my 2 cents, I think you both have a point.
IMHO, Gracy, Greybeard's posts generally don't lack in quality in the sources of information he sites, which I appreciate a lot because they are usually very credible and often ones that I've missed.
But I can appreciate how the number of posts the Mods have to monitor just adds to the work load. for which you are not compensated!
The quantity of your posts, Chris, can be overwhelming, not just to the Mods, but to members and guests as well, I think, particularly when they just consist of a few comments, followed soon after by another one with just a few comments, and so on.
It's like you are using Avalon to record your stream of consciousness, which isn't really what it's intended for, unless you have a thread of your own intended specifically for that purpose, such as Wind and Wade Frazier have done.
It does get a bit much as well, when you repeat the same remarks over and over again, such as "just my opinion, which may be flawed" etc..
It gets to be kind of like overhearing someone talking to themselves or arguing with someone who's not even really there.
May I make a suggestion?
That you hold off for awhile before commenting on any particular thread/subject until you have gathered a number of thoughts, articles or videos to share, etc., and then make a compilation, where possible, so that your posts are longer and denser, with relevant info, but not so frequent, repetitive, and sort of rambling in the thinking-out-load mode?
I think that would save the Mods a lot of trouble, and would make your posts more attractive to the average reader, whether member or guest.
Offered in the spirit of constructive criticism, and appreciation for the efforts of both!
Thanks!
Quote:
Posted by Gracy MayMy emphasis.Quote:
Posted by greybeard
Chris.Quote:
Posted by greybeard
Stepping far enough back from this issue to see the forum as a guest may view it, there is something else you need to consider. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the oil, often times the listener hears it to such great extent, that the sound begins to be ignored, and slowly fades on off into the backdrop of daily consciousness.
I did some quick basic math, and of the 98 posts thus far in this thread, 27 are yours. Someone scrolling through this thread will see that smiling face of yours 28% of the time. You're even light years ahead of two others adament in these issues, with onowah's current post count here at 15 (15%), and delight at 9 (9%).
Adding together the drumbeat of all three equals a whopping 52% of all posts on this thread, with you leading the charge!
Chris (and others), often times less is more. Don't think for one second that everyone in the general vicinity, from passing guest to members posting daily, don't know precisely how you feel about certain matters, and why.
They've got it.
Essentially what you're doing at this point by pounding that drum even more incessantly, is the exact opposite of what you're hoping for. Any more, rather than people curious to see your next opinion, they're just thinking to themselves "oh there he is again", and moving on to something else.
You have a background in psychology? This is Psychology 101.
Quote:
Posted by greybeard
Accepted what you say onawah I get carried away -- a bit over enthusiastic perhaps.
I mean well -- smiling.
Chris
Mod note from Bill:
Chris, I've put you On Sabbatical for 3 days (72 hours). That's not a punishment, or else it'd be termed a "temporary suspension". It's a tough-love support for you to get focused on what's really important, how and why you contribute to a discussion, and what you do and don't contribute to Avalon's quality.
onawah's post to you was better stated than the mods have so far been able to, and was 100% spot on. We appreciate that. Something has to change here. More is not necessarily better.
And thinking aloud all the time, saying that you don't really know stuff, doesn't help a soul — except that maybe you feel a little better after expressing yourself.
This is not your personal blog or journal: it's a communal round-table discussion which in some areas has become way out of healthy, valuable balance. If you can't moderate yourself wisely and sensitively, the mods will do this for you.
:focus:
There is a contingent of posters who see this site as their own "personal blog" between themselves and Bill, which is fine
To be fair, I see this site as every member's "personal blog"
:)
I am taking a sabbatical too, not officially leaving but will not add to the quantities of info. Keeping the forum streamlined is bound to benefit for brevity. Mods are not paid. I have always thought that the mod room was probably a club. Just to be clear, I don't understand the need to impose this kind of move (on Greybeard or anyone) but I did learn from Dan Andrews that 8-5 curfews make it easier for the police.Quote:
Posted by Gracy May
True, I feel a bit snarky as the world outside and that includes this court yard is looking a little unfriendly.
It is true that at this point, information may be too little too late?
There are blogs and blogs!Quote:
Posted by Bluegreen
Yours discusses politics, Hollywood, sports, music, St Thomas, the military, ETs, Illuminati programming — and quite a lot else, including all aspects of human nature.
That's admirably eclectic! And everything you post you give a great deal of thought to before you do (it's almost always interesting), and you also always give a great deal of room to everyone else.
If you were sitting round a large table, or in a discussion group like the Laughlin meetup last year, you'd do a lot of listening and then when you said something, everyone would stop, interested in what you had to offer. You'd not be dominating any of the conversation, because you never do that either in the real world or in the virtual one.
Hey :flower: Your contributions here are hugely valued, always. You need to know this.Quote:
Posted by DelightI am taking a sabbatical too, not officially leaving but will not add to the quantities of info. Keeping the forum streamlined is bound to benefit for brevity. Mods are not paid. I have always thought that the mod room was probably a club. Just to be clear, I don't understand the need to impose this kind of move (on Greybeard or anyone) but I did learn from Dan Andrews that 8-5 curfews make it easier for the police.Quote:
Posted by Gracy May
True, I feel a bit snarky as the world outside and that includes this court yard is looking a little unfriendly.
It is true that at this point, information may be too little too late?
We'll always respect anyone who feels they need to take a breather. Boy, these are very challenging times and quite draining, for all, including moderators, who are also human :)
Please don't go anywhere away from us too soon. If you do, and we'll respect that, do it only for your own self. That you've identified for yourself that you need to do that for your you.
You have our love, always :flower:
A changed subject so my post is redundant. Please delete this post.
Thank you norman. As someone who laid a few Norman bricks the other day, let me add a few thoughts of a bricklayer :)
I am neither a scientist nor the opposite of a scientist. I have a grounding in a rigorous approach to ‘arts’ subjects of which the foundation is language. In other words, I do not seek resonance with this or that video (I don’t watch too many of those). I seek resonance/consistency with myself, what I write, which is why many of my links are to my own material. This is not so much a scientific as an encyclopaedic approach, and yet it all comes back to this one individual. On the other hand, if instead of trying to publish a book or post a personal blog I persist as an anonymous poster on a largish forum over which I have no influence, this suggests that I have nothing to buy and, more importantly, nothing to sell – beyond the content of my posts. Each of them costs some considerable effort, since when I begin writing I have no idea what I am going to say: the effort and the process actually produce the end result. To that extent, what I do matches my perception of how the universe works; which is not to say that whatever I write is in any way ‘valid’ beyond my personal perception. But it does relativize the importance both of greybeard’s ‘drum beat’ posts and Bill Ryan's multiple Chris Martenson posts. If my work agrees or disagrees with theirs, that is corroboration, not collaboration – always supposing the distinction still has any value.
You see, looming large in my personal perception are my nearest and dearest, who are as wary of conspiracy theory as the rest of the population; they are my grounding. The latest suggestion that I relocate I reject for the same reason as last time, even though Baron C0rv0’s prediction of a big splash in the Atlantic would again cook my goose:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1348239Quote:
But take Wnlight’s predictions last year. They even claimed to a degree of objectivity, through dowsing. I live in a place where people should have been panicking, not to say drowning, but I naturally chose to ignore those dire predictions. If I had told my family we needed to move south immediately, they would [have] taken me to have my head examined, and rightly so as it turned out. The dowsing was capturing something, but only a potential thing, maybe some collective fear. An effective forum should not be relaying and amplifying this kind of negative non-information. This sort of thing has been going on for years and it only aggravates the main problem facing humanity, namely the growing nihilism in some quarters due to fear caused by eons of catastrophic trauma plus the steady drip of everyday trauma. In a sense, the fewer people know about some things the better, and if you are aware, better keep it to yourself. Secrecy is not always criminal. Generally speaking (but not always), fear is talkative: it is the opposite to, say, “Just do it”.
This last statement is not entirely correct, or at least has not always been so. It would have to include (just one example) Corey Goode, who has an ongoing thread here explaining in excruciating detail how he is a Good person in name only. Or it would have to include (just another example) a certain moderator ignominiously banned not very long ago. In fact, it may be that the perception ‘We're all good people here’ is the illusion that is the ‘precedent for cataclysm’. The idea that ‘It's happened before’ almost contains the idea that ‘It will happen again’. That is one thing that I WILL combat, and I am not talking about the microcosm of a forum.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
With all due respect, there is indeed a strange parallel between the relocation agenda and the forum owner’s ‘piss off’ message to long-established members. On both counts, I will not budge, and if this turns out to be my last post, so be it.
Greybeard and I are continuing to have some interesting email conversations while he is on involuntary sabbatical.
He just emailed this to me from David Icke:
"Its Coming! Are You Prepared For This?" David Icke
8,000 views•Premiered 3 hours ago
Which was very good timing because I have been meditating a bit lately on the human levels of consciousness, the chakras and the corresponding colors, as they were taught to me by a couple of different teachers, the first and foremost being the late Dr. Christopher Hills, who wrote a lot of books all about that sort of thing, one entitled "Nuclear Evolution". See: https://www.amazon.com/Nuclear-Evolu.../dp/0916438090
In the video, David Icke speaks of the level of consciousness of the heart (the 4th chakra, for which the color is green).
Green connects us with Nature, and David makes the association of acting in accordance with what is NATURAL , as acting from CONSCIENCE, without fear.
When we act from that level we are acting instinctively from what our connection with Nature tells us is true and right and natural.
(I think people often refer to that as "gut instinct" though of course, the gut is closer to the third chakra, which is about intellect. Perhaps we need to coin a new term like "heart instinct").
The first time I was required to put on a mask so that I could go into a store to buy groceries, my heart was speaking for my whole organism, and was screaming "This is NOT RIGHT"!
Not just morally wrong, but wrong because it was unnatural, because it wasn't good for me, not just for my physical being, not for my entire being.
OF course, I had already formed an opinion about it before that, but that was coming in part from my intellect. This other response to masking was much more than that.
The next chakra up is the throat (the color blue), and that is the level of devotion.
Devotion gives us more of the energetic wherewithal to speak out for and to adhere to what we feel to be right.
(Herd instinct, which is the second chakra (the color orange) keeps people doing what they are told, taking what they think is the safe path.
The level of sensation, the root chakra, (the color red) prompts us to do what feels good sensually.
According to Dr. Hills, most of the people of Earth are acting primarily from those two centers.)
But I imagine that most of these people were not prompted by herd instinct or because it felt good sensually to come together (not to mention convenient!) to peacefully protest the lockdown, the masking, the testing, the whole plandemic...but were being prompted by their conscience and their devotion to the truth:
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net...7b&oe=5F81E8B5
I pray to God and Goddess that more will take heart from that example, and find the courage to speak out against what they know to be unnatural and wrong.
We may yet be fewer in number, but not lesser in power or worthiness to be heard.
Then we may see a real turning point in this massive herding toward annihilation that the elite would have us succumb to with their genocidal plans.
Great data compilation on Covid here:
Stanford University Nobel Prize Winner Biophysicist Michael Levitt says the pandemic is over, though according to the mainstream media, the "casedemic" continues. As much data from him and many other experts as anyone could wish in this video.I give the first part of this video an A+, despite all the religious beliefs shared at the end, but easy to skip through.
https://www.facebook.com/veritasmedi...4536836892730/
Also posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1377844
If people are interested in extremely in depth, sound analysis of the full impact and full reality of the COVID-19 saga, look no further than...
The Ethical Skeptic -
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic
His website -
https://theethicalskeptic.com/
and spend the 30 minutes listening to a recent interview -
https://omny.fm/shows/the-todd-herma...ptic-joins-the
Then come back and try and make the argument that the deaths of despair have been justified.
Note: The credentials of The Ethical Skeptic are impeccable both with regards to knowing what he is talking about but with regards to something very hard to find these days - actual ethics.
HOMELAND SECURITY TO BIOSECURITY-Corbett Report
9/13/20
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/cov...o-biosecurity/
Reviewed by Alexandra Bruce:
"About a month ago, YouTube stopped notifying me of when my subscriptions post new videos, so I’m kind of flying blind. I would have posted James Corbett’s latest tour-de-force sooner, had I been notified.
Here are some highlights from the transcript, which can be read in full here:https://www.corbettreport.com/covid911/
…
Those paying attention will have already noted the parallels between the “War on Terror” declared after 9/11 and the “War on the Invisible Enemy” that has been declared on COVID-19…
That so many of the people who were there at the birth of the war on terror are currently acting as midwives to the biosecurity state should come as no surprise. After all, the biosecurity paradigm is not a replacement for the terror paradigm; it is its fulfillment…
…we find insight on this turn of events from [Italian philosopher] Giorgio Agamben, who has noted that viral epidemics are
“above all a political concept, which is preparing to become the new terrain of world politics—or non-politics. It is possible, however, that the epidemic that we are living through will be the actualization of the global civil war that, according to the most attentive political theorists, has taken the place of traditional world wars. All nations and all peoples are now in an enduring war with themselves, because the invisible and elusive enemy with which they are struggling is within us.”
Governments are banning gatherings and events. Instituting new screening procedures. Quarantining healthy, functioning people against their will. Tracking and surveilling every individual. Controlling their movements. Monitoring their transactions. Make no mistake: the “War on Terror” is not over. It has just greatly expanded.
The proponents of 9/11 truth have warned for 19 years that the “War on Terror” was always a war on the public. Long pushed to the margins of the political debate, that viewpoint has been vindicated as the “terrorist” label is replaced by the “asymptomatic carrier” label and all the machinery of the police state is wielded against everyone who opposes the biosecurity takeover.
Given that those once derided as “conspiracy theorists” have turned out to be the most prescient political observers of all, perhaps it is time to learn the real lessons from 9/11 that mainstream discourse has always excluded:
That 9/11 and the “War on Terror” was not a war at all, but a power grab;
That the “temporary” measures brought in to deal with an alleged “emergency” will never be relinquished;
And, most importantly, that unless everyone who cares about this—the most blatant power grab in history—rises up, refuses to cower in fear of the invisible enemy, and reclaims their inalienable rights to freedom of movement, freedom of association and freedom of assembly, then those freedoms will be gone for good.
This is the message of 9/11 truth: that the world was tricked into giving up their rights in the name of an endless parade of bogeymen. In reality, it was the very politicians and officials claiming to protect us from these bogeymen—the ones donning the mantle of “homeland security”—who were the greatest threat to the public. And now they are claiming we are the bogeymen, “asymptomatic carriers” of an invisible enemy,” walking and talking weapons of mass destruction who must be caged in fear forever lest the virus kills us all.
This is a lie, and it exposes what the fearmongers are themselves afraid of: free humanity. Gathering. Talking. Working. Playing. Living.
It is no small irony that this year’s 9/11 memorials have been disrupted by the COVID scare. The torch has well and truly passed, and the annual injunctions to “Never Forget” have been replaced by a litany of “Always Remembers.” Remember to wear your mask. Remember to stay 6 feet apart. Remember to avoid large groups. Remember to stay home.
After 19 years, perhaps it is time to admit that 9/11 truth failed to expose the “War on Terror” lie in time to derail the homeland security agenda. But we are entering a new era, and we have a new chance to wake from this nightmare.
Knowing this, the only question is: Will we reject the “War on the Invisible Enemy” before it’s too late?
Whatever our choice, we better make it quickly. A Great Reset is coming."
Or if youtube censors it, try Bitchute at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/opAyJt94Kmo/
While materialists look to label and define the culprit, thereby making it real, the truthers want to expose the root of the entire agenda, thereby making the virus inconsequential.
Because this epidemic is quite selective in who gets infected, the bulk of humanity has had no experience with the illness itself and have only experienced the repercussions of the drastic response. Because they are labelled 'carriers' and a risk to those around them they become the victims of an invisible enemy that will never affect them directly. And since we are talking about at least 85% of the world's population, we are talking about a vast majority of experiences.
Then we have those who, because they themselves are compromised or by the luck of the draw this virus has affected someone they know, the experience is direct and the threat very real.
So the health authorities begin the massive cost of labeling, defining, curtailing, controlling, and compiling a new viral agent and its particulars. But we are not allowed to have a life again until a vaccine. And this was how it was presented from the beginning, that the new normal would have to include an interim period where we all wait for a vaccine. How was that arrived at before the true extent of its virulence had yet been determined?
So there is the mass of humanity indirectly affected by this pathogen, and a minority with some or another direct experience. And we have a policy that came out of an international body fully formed before the epidemic even hit.
As the true numbers come out we are getting quite a different picture of the dangers posed by this virus but the scare-mongering tactics that began early on has remained the official narrative. Because of it, as Corbett reports, we have the continuation of the security state but now on steroids.
While the battle against the truth continues, materially we are supposedly all a little bit safer and definitely a little less free. And our repertoire of labels has grown by one...making us feel like we have mastered this scourge.
Scientific materialism is a story. It can be true or it can be false. But scientific materialism is not against the truth, it merely makes a very early assumption that it has remained loyal to since the inception of science, which states:
The universe is grainy. Or the more secular: All things real must be material. And secretly: There is no need for a god.
That's it. If that is not true then scientific materialism is not truth.
One of the first uses of the mind is to ask "WHY?" I was talking to a friend last night who lost a loved one last week to possible medical malpractice. Certainly there were errors all along the path leading to a death at 44. She is wondering WHY did this death happen?Quote:
Posted by Ernie Nemeth
She is also trying to find some solace that life is not over for her friend which leads her to call on her taught conception of GOD from her religious upbringing. This religion taught that we are not to question GOD. This POV holds that we are not able to understand and have to accept "God's Will".
I recall from history that once the "Church" held everyone in a strangle hold and the pendulum swung to "Science" as a way to seek truth over religious fundamentalism.
Lately science is also showing the same front of Authoritarian management. Think of how many scientists with great credentials are being maligned by other scientists when not holding a united front of "THIS is why..."
I think the right to ask WHY is a DIVINE RIGHT of sovereign beings and the exploration a true science of our birthright as thinking/feeling beings.
Think of ALL the paradigm wars that disallow alternative POV and IMO the underlying war is to establish who is boss over us all. We are to BOW to that authority. Religious worship and scientific DEFERENCE to authority are all about "There is a boss, some Divine Masculine KING at the pinnacle of power and YOU are not He". We just see a pendulum swing as to whom we should have as the controlers of OUR MINDS.
I read this today in an old forum Science and Spirituality. It is from a poster David Kay. I think it had food for thought.
Quote:
Rationalism and materialism seem associated. When we experience something that may or may not be supernatural, we call the materialist explanation the rational explanation.
Rationalism received an upsurge in the Enlightenment, which tried to reduce the influence of religion. They demanded the separation of the Church and the State. It seems that rationalism is materialistic.
Looking at it in the historical context, it seems a little more complicated. Christianity is a religion that raises more questions than it answers. Why the Divine Incarnation? The explanation for the crucifixion is that it absolved us from the sin of Adam, but how can we be absolved by an action which we did not accomplish ourselves? Why are we guilty of the sin of Adam when we did not commit it ourselves? Why did the absolving not take place immediately after the sin was committed?
Christianity is not really satisfying to an enquiring mind, so this would cause inquisitive people to look to the study of material properties for knowledge, but there's more to it than this. Christianity was hostile to enquiring minds. There were Inquisitions to prevent it, and they acted with great cruelty. We like to think that England was a more liberal country, but a bookseller was fined for selling a copy of Thomas Pain's book The Age Of Reason. There was not freedom of thought in England.
Intelligent people must have pondered over the questions raised by Christianity. Thomas A Kempis, in The Imitation Of Christ, says that we should not speculate about matters relating to God, because he knew of cases where this led to doubts. People must have felt angry that they could not discuss doubts openly.
It was better to study the properties of matter because that was safe. Even theoretical science could be dangerous, as Galileo found out. It was safest to stick to mechanics. Nobody was ever hauled before an Inquisition for inventing a machine. The reason why rationalism was anti-religion was because religion was antirational. It must have seemed to a lot of people that the rational approach to religion was to kick the whole thing over. Materialism is the revenge of rationalism against religion. It acted in self defence.
There is the question of the supernatural in religion. How does the supernatural happen?
All patriarchal religion falters on the inability to imagine Creation as a masculine thing. Even the rationalistic religion of Hermetism had difficulty with this, and decided that the Father is beyond all conceptualisation. Logically, if this is true, then spiritual development is impossible by any method, because it implies that there is no quality in us which reflects the spirit. It requires a denial of the principle of Divine Ideas being reflected into the world, which means that it is impossible to see the world as an outer manifestation of the Divine. The world and the spirit must therefore have nothing to do with each other. It led to the belief in what is called the Clockmaker God, that is a God Who created the world, wound it up, and left it to run like a clock. In this perspective, there can be no manifestation of the supernatural in the world, and no way that ritual and ceremony can work. This made it possible for Atheists to discredit Christianity by pointing to its supernatural element. It is why the Protestants abolished the Mass, and declared the principle of transubstantiation, by which the bread is transformed into the body of Christ, to be mumbo jumbo. The hostility to ritual has led to a lot of people believing that marriage is wrong. "Why this ritual?" I am asked.
Some Christians have gone so far as to declare priests an evil, and there are some modern sects which don't have priests.
We are left with a religion that makes it necessary to believe many things without any reason for supposing them to be true. This makes it necessary for people to have an irrational mind to practice religion without doubt. So, when the materialists claim to have a monopoly on reason, the religious leaders do not dispute it. They urge it, because they want to discredit reason. Having reached this state, we find that the material sciences have given us explanations for things that religion did not. We come to the conclusion that science is the basis of understanding, and the basis of civilisation, ousting religion from the position of making this claim.
And now comes Evolution. We know that the fossil record proves that Genesis is not true, but does that prove that all Creation explanations are not true? The problem is that Christianity had a monopoly on religion. If you were religious, you were Christian. If you were not Christian, you were not religious. Christianity discredited Pagan religions by making people think they were more primitive. They persuaded people that the Pagans believed the statues of the gods to be the gods. Anybody familiar with Classical religion will know this is not true, but many people believed it. Ironically, this put Christianity into an evolutionist perspective, and so gains credit for Evolutionism. It enabled Frazer, in The Golden Bough, to argue that civilisation is an evolutionary progress from magical thinking, to religious thinking, ending in scientific thinking, implying that materialism is the truth. Christianity fell victim to its own propaganda.
The problem that Christianity has it that it cannot create an explanation of Creation by explaining that all organisms are manifestations of Divine Ideas falling into matter, and that the simpler organisms fell first to give an impression of evolution. This is consistent with the fossil record, but is not acceptable because of lack of understanding of Divine Ideas, and because Christians don't want a rival explanation to Genesis. The Christians have adapted to Evolutionism by declaring that the Bible is not literal truth, which leaves the question of Creation unresolved, and adds credence to materialism. Evolution is unquestioned, making the origin of life explained by materialism.
In the modern world, the material sciences are the only thing that encourages enquiring minds, except for a few who read philosophy, and a few who study the occult. We think that scientists are the most intelligent people, but do not expect clerics to be more than reasonably intelligent. We look to science for the answers. Most people do not believe that meditation can lead to a higher understanding. There has been a decline in the regard for science of late, and this is accompanied by a decline in the regard for the intellect. We see that science harms the ecology and threatens the survival of life, and conclude that intellect harms the ecology. We see science and intellect as the same thing. People cannot find satisfaction for enquiring minds in religion. We are moving into the Age of Aquarius, when people will value knowledge above all. Religion must provide that if it is to survive. That requires that religion be based on the principle of Divine Ideas, which requires acceptance for the feminine nature of religion. Most people find that unacceptable. Better the end of the world.
David Kay
Where I am coming from
Context is all important.
My situation.
I have five Grand Children all affected by coronavirus regulations and more.
The oldest age 25 has to wear a mask to work..
Girls 22 and 19 have had their education put on hold till now and its wear masks in corridors and no more than six people together out with school/University, two meters apart of course.
The two youngest, just over one year old and the other just started primary school.
Their Mum, Erin, my daughter in law, is a beautiful clever woman, from New York born and bred .
She met my son at University in Dundee.
Indoctrinated into a vaccine culture she has had almost seventy shots, my son three.
Guess who will be first in line to get these kids, my flesh and blood too. Vaccinated.
Grandparents are not listened to these days.
Now here is a major point.
My ex wife Ita, a nurse, has not been allowed to visit the Grand children since March.
Why!!! because Erin fully believes that the virus is dangerous for all ages in spite of evidence that kids dont get it.
Ita being a nurse is sure to be carrier of the virus, in Erin.s eyes
Ita is gutted as you might expect.
All my family are self employed and in danger of loosing these separate businesses that took years to build. They employ people – those jobs at risk.
Any concerned Father -Grandparent would bang a drum surely?
For myself Im nor concerned -- it will come right.
However, the pain and suffering is very real for many.
I have five children and was self employed virtually all my life.
My experience of life in this field is first hand.
I feel for those who are self employed.
At one point in time I was elected as “The Chairman of the Highland Branch of The Federation of Self Employed “ also “Chairman of The Highland Association of Registered Care Homes.”
The members elected me as they knew I would fight for their rights and I did till our Care Home went to the wall.
I know what it is when you have a mortgage and children to support and no occupation.
This is going to happen to a lot of people.
The UK Government keeps reimposing lockdown on cases, tested by ----
not on the mortality rate.
This is why I have repeatedly posted about the tests, this is the one mechanism that they use to justify all their actions.
For me this is not an intellectual discussion as to whether I posted too much or not –
This post it is real personal experience shared
I could say a lot more but out of respect for opposing views–will say no more
Chris
Science should reflect reality.
Sometimes it discovers something unknown --but it was a reality before discovery.
Nothing unreal exists.
I have reposted this video as it opened my eyes to many untruths and also how Wikipedia trashes scientists reputation who come out with facts contra to materialistic "theories"
Removing their valid qualifications.
Same happened with those asking for further investigation into the possible link between vaccines and Autism
Dr Wakefield for just one.
Well worth watching to the end.
Chris
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ocP6JSyicY0
Reading through the quote from David Kay, it presents a kind of duality, between religion and scientific "rationalism" which holds to the material world. I'm not sure the landscape and the choices are not more complex. And reveal a "divine feminine" in the world of scientific thought as well.
Mathematics is called the "Queen of the Sciences". It is called that by some (mostly mathematicians) because they believe it to be a pinnacle. But the original meaning is that it is wedded to the sciences but is not science itself. It has no reason to be encumbered by either physics or matter, but is necessary for the understanding of and furthering of physics. Physics deals with the material world only. Mathematics does not.
Greybeard, most of the below was written before your return. Welcome back. Over the weekend, my wife emptied a bookshelf on the landing, instructing me to deal with it. As if I could deal with a hundred books without looking inside :) One was a study on GK Chesterton, who was the closest equivalent a century ago to a popular blogger today, and to whom I have made reference in the past. Here, for you, Chris, is a quote from that book that will readily serve as an epigraph to the rest of this post:
‘So what happens when everyone turns into a conspiracy theorist?’Quote:
In Manalive, Chesterton’s view of mental illness and its treatment has developed from the premisses suggested in ‘Orthodoxy’. Community can only be restored by strengthening the family to the point where it is independent of the state. Mystery can only be restored by the drastic tactics of Innocent Smith, the sane man turned outlaw. John Coates, Chesterton and the Edwardian Cultural Crisis, Hull University Press, 1984, p. 227)
Good question; there is no easy answer, which is why these are perilous times.
Let’s get the positive stuff out of the way. Yes, we seem to have passed from the whistleblower stage to the universal conspiracy theorist stage. Why? Probably because all the work at homes have been doing a little more online research than they would have done in the office. This will pan out as many with a job to do actually performing their task a bit better. Police will investigate beyond the usual suspects, the courts will prosecute some who seemed beyond their reach. And the one parliamentarian in the UK required to launch impeachment proceedings against Johnson may be found. He has a huge majority, but the standard procedure for a huge majority is a backbench revolt, where the junior members form an opposition of their own. Since the opposition leader is a former chief prosecutor, the prospects for such an action are rather good, since any half-decent judge is looking for SUBSTANCE. If this sort of thing began happening all over the place, then it could become very interesting. I am talking about people doing the job there are paid to do, only with a little less despair, and a little more hope. An incoming tide floating all our boats at once. The role of the general public in this will be to provide the backing of public opinion and perhaps also demonstrations in the street.
This is the future I wish for and expect: nothing spectacular at all, but somewhere down the line it will be noted that a revolution has taken place. But to get there, there are a number of considerations to be taken into account and thought through which are germane to the discussion on this thread. They relate to the opposition, which is not about to vanish overnight. If we are talking about the general public all becoming conspiracy theorists, then most of them will not have done their homework or the spiritual work done by the likes of Avalonians or whoever. This may be conceived as a brake; however, I would suggest that it is just the reverse.
I have been hinting for some time that conspiracy theorizing is bad for you – or if you prefer, not very scientific or logical. In various ways. Let me explain further.
Occam’s razor – a scientific concept – suggests that we avoid introducing more entities than are strictly necessary. If we apply this to language, and accept that the vast majority of speakers are not scientists, with one word for one thing or concept, then it follows that our language has far too many words describing the same things. Accordingly, it might be interesting and valuable to pare things down as far as we dare, and take it from there. No doubt some concepts that seemed miles apart will coalesce, not like poetic rhymes or metaphors, but as strict lexical synonyms.
If we pare things right back, we have earthbound humanity in a physical environment, and with a growing mental/non-physical capacity. Nothing else is required, no alien worlds or alien people: nothing else is required In other words, we have a daytime reality, and nighttime dreams, which are somehow unreal. Hence two types of people: for one type grounded in reality, dreams are good or bad, but are kept apart. For the other type, dreams are good and spill over into reality. The dreamer becomes a sleepwalker acting out their dreams. Only for the others, these sweet dreams are nightmares. And that includes the alien worlds and alien people; and rightly so, because they are invariably engaged in warfare, local, global, interplanetary, interstellar warfare. While these others are simply living their quiet lives, looking after their family, their farm, whatever. Now if you scale things back right up, what do you find? The elite, and the conspiracy theorists, are together spouting all this dream stuff that has no grounding in reality.
I have been quoting the hypnotherapist Jack True, who encouraged people, as one way of using their imagination, to create multiple dreams in the waking state in order to create their reality. He was doing this mostly with ordinary good people, but the fact is that the elite, on the other side of the big divide, having been doing this all along. My point is that if this is the type of enlightenment being promoted by the alternative media, then we have two possibly novel ideas to contend with. One is that the ones are merely catching up with the others, in which case they seem to be creating the conflict that they don’t want. Jack True’s ’matrix’ is constructed in exactly the same way as he proposes to escape from it. In other words, his method of giving a free rein to ‘Imagination’ has already been hijacked by the other side.
The other idea is that we now have billions of dreamers, and just a few long-term experts. Given human evolution over millennia, the wildest dreams of the experts are now our worst nightmares, and yet they are being sleepwalked into our current reality. The problem then becomes, how do we wake up, and revert to purely daytime encounters with hard reality, away from all the dreaming?
I suggested we had too many lexical items, making for some unlikely synonyms. Dreaming, nightmares, fascism, nihilism, AI, we are making all kinds of distinctions that are not leading to greater clarity but on the contrary are muddying the water. One example of where this process leads is the idea of ‘strategic relocation’ on this forum. We are all attached to some part of the planet through birth and perhaps other defining moments in life: we are where we are for good reasons. One synonym for ‘strategic relocation’ might be ‘head for the hills’, another ‘western migration’. You get into the impossible tangle whereby for example xenophobic johnsonism leads to Brexit because of foreign immigration, and the answer is to… apply for an EU passport and emigrate.
What we are seeing, as I have hinted at many times before, is that conspiracy theory is actually enabling the cabal to create its nightmare world. In other words, it is itself that part of the nightmare that is leaking out into reality; call it perhaps lucid dreaming, but so far it has not changed anything much. On the contrary, it has been magnifying and empowering the diabolical death wish in every conceivable direction, in space and time. The entire Cosmos is at war and has been so for eons. Every civilization on earth has now been brought into the picture, not just those that have left traces, but others before them that have not such as Atlantis or Lemuria. Another word for the nightmare is madness, and uncovering all this stuff is part of the madness. The road to sanity is through people who have been awake all along and trying to keep the sleepwalkers out of (self-)harm’s way. These are the only ‘aliens’ required, who are not aliens at all, being fully human except for the madness.
The way forward, then, is to minimize everything as much as possible. What we actually know of the Cosmos, beyond our wild imaginings is very little: a few photons through a telescope and reams of complex mathematics to turn it into something huge. If this works like PCR, then that sounds about right. Here is a more trivial example. When the English in the 19th century codified the game of soccer, for some years the Old Etonians were the best team. They were ‘world-beaters’, except that the world in question was no bigger than little England. Now imagine the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg and Cameron taking on Real Madrid or Liverpool, and you will get the idea as to how far humanity has progressed in a very short time. Or, looking through the other end of the telescope, just how primitive it was still when some of our grandparents were alive.
The idea then is that the huge monster of the nightmare is a figment of the imagination, to be brought down to actual size in the light of day. In the novel Perelandra (see this post). C.S. Lewis goes back to the earliest Adam-and-Eve conditions, when his hero discovers that all he has to do to eliminate the ‘all-powerful’ Satan from Venus is to engage in hand-to-hand combat with, and kill, a middle-aged academic like himself; something small enough to be doable and yet hugely significant. It is a man-sized target and, like many modern sportsmen facing defeat, he is able to do a little more than he thought possible – that is all that is required. We are looking for champions, not GOATs (greatest of all time), just winners.
A stitch in time saves nine. We have reached the point where nine stitches may be necessary, but at least we can save the garment. We are not fighting some Cosmic Devil, we are simply at the next stage in our evolution where honest people will have an opportunity to assert themselves in small, natural ways as I described above. Some people in high places need to go to jail. They have taken incompetence to new heights by recording their own misdeeds for purposes of bribery with the side-effect of building up a conclusive case for their conviction. The same goes for government ministers brazenly admitting to parliament that they want to tear up an international agreement they signed for themselves only last year. We have a justice and law enforcement system in place to deal with them. To state that ‘everyone turns into a conspiracy theorist’ is simply one way of saying that the zeitgeist is favourable to that actually occurring, meaning that those with real power are now in a position to wield it effectively.
You see that no Hegelian Dialectics are needed. Why? Because the antithesis being ‘nothing’, the synthesis is merely a reiteration of the thesis.
The ‘bottom line’, or should I say, world view, that may be drawn from the above is that, yes we are living in a matrix, the way a trainee pilot is living in a matrix in a flight simulator. That way, when he discovers a glitch in his performance or in the hardware, no lives are lost, no irretrievable damage is done. But that is simply from a personnel training viewpoint. Taking this further, you have the situation of Human Species x.0: some technicians will be trained to see what, if anything, can go wrong. From the standpoint of the ordinary human, this would resemble the devil incarnate. And yet, from the viewpoint of a developer of a viable species, there is strictly no evil intended or involved, and no one out to eat us!
Below the ‘bottom line’, then, what do we have? We have a safety net, which is the exact opposite of original sin. We can do no wrong, beyond what has already been documented over eons. What we can do is reveal unexpected potential leading to Human Species x.1. To do that, we need to relax, meaning for starters, release the hand brake :)
The above, as always, is posted somewhat as stream of consciousness; i.e. before logical appraisal sets in to disturb the thought. My apologies for loss of clarity.
Quote In Manalive, Chesterton’s view of mental illness and its treatment has developed from the premisses suggested in ‘Orthodoxy’. Community can only be restored by strengthening the family to the point where it is independent of the state. Mystery can only be restored by the drastic tactics of Innocent Smith, the sane man turned outlaw. John Coates, Chesterton and the Edwardian Cultural Crisis, Hull University Press, 1984, p. 227)
Thanks for this araucaria
Family so important
At the beginning of this virus situation my Ex Ita thought I was a conspiracy theorist and smiled at me.
At that time the local hospital was virtually empty to make way for Virus cases -- there were very few.
She is a bank nurse and got no shifts for months, no patients no essential operations.
No income.
Then the hospital got busy with non covad cases.
Ita had to wear a mask -- super fit --she collapsed reduced oxygen intake.
She compared notes with other nurse -- not just in Inverness.
Same story. You wont see this in the media.
Then she watched the Professor Dolores Cahill video of her talk in Ireland.
Ita is from Dublin.
I did not give her the video --a nursing friend suggested it.
I found way back the last person to try to convince a woman is her husband especially an Ex.
She was totally convinced of the validity of what Professor Cahill was saying that she booked to go to the demonstration in Edinburgh which was rather larger than the press made out.
The Cabal would try to divide and conquer especially in families and friends labelling some as conspiracy theorists.
Thankfully my family is sound.
Chris