Bill:
Can you explain/have any ideas how that affects each of us? Are all of us trapped in this continuous time loop individually, doing the same things over and over again? What is your view?
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Bill:
Can you explain/have any ideas how that affects each of us? Are all of us trapped in this continuous time loop individually, doing the same things over and over again? What is your view?
Andrew D. Basiago - Project Pegasus, Time Travel, Teleportation & The Chronovisor Device
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...IR-090910.html
A lot of good, interrelated links on that page.
PS - This will be my last post for 3 weeks. I am leaving for Peru, internet access is going to be very limited. Peace y'all.
PPS - One more link on time travel and more corroborating material to sift through:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/es...timetravel.htm
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Posted by Bill Ryan
So, (if true) Bill Murray's movie, "Groundhog Day", is closer to our present reality than any documentary. And, if true, it would make any 'practical' solution to take away even some of the Cabal's power with a plan like The Reset Button moot - as they would simply insert into the timeline whatever it would take to counter the people's strategy.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
If true, it does seem to make resistance futile, doesn't it? (Not to say I won't die resisting, attempting to understand, pumping out love and compassion with the intuition it is our greatest force, .. and vowing to come back much better prepared for the fight next time.)
Dennis
@Dennis
It was described to me as a bit like reading a book (the locus). People read a different speeds and for each person time seems to pass at a different speed (some will get to the end before others). The meaning of the book will also be slightly different for each person. Imagine that somewhere down the line the pages of the book are blank...The people who get there first will imagine the ongoing story...But yet the story will also be 'written' by those who get to that point later. Each rendition is a timeline. The book at some point for all becomes a product of our projection. This is what is UP FOR GRABS!
love
K
On the 'other side' of every sun is a black hole.
love
K
Very interesting Dennis,Quote:
Posted by Dennis LeahyQuote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
So, (if true) Bill Murray's movie, "Groundhog Day", is closer to our present reality than any documentary. And, if true, it would make any 'practical' solution to take away even some of the Cabal's power with a plan like The Reset Button moot - as they would simply insert into the timeline whatever it would take to counter the people's strategy.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
If true, it does seem to make resistance futile, doesn't it? (Not to say I won't die resisting, attempting to understand, pumping out love and compassion with the intuition it is our greatest force, .. and vowing to come back much better prepared for the fight next time.)
Dennis
I was shown (well, brought there) "Hell" once in a very intense hallucinogenic experience, and I was shown a few aspects of "Hell" The first thing was loops of everything, experiences, run over and over again, individual thoughts, experience, whole scenes and events - everything, on both small and large scales. Things would change slightly between the loops but not very much - it was incredibly restrictive - no one was able to be properly expressive, but was "forced" to act out these loops over and over. But no one could quite see that it was happening, just the odd "deja vu" experience.
Hell was a "state", not a place at all. I'm not religious, but if one re-reads Jesus' words about hell and inserts a definition like this it makes way more sense.
The second aspect, after thinking about it, is related to the first one, but not on topic and not that important for this. I just wanted to point out an interesting synchronicity between what I was given as "hell" and what Dennis posted about time loops and entanglements.
In my 2 cents I am coming to believe this needs to be fixed from the top down with a different method - it can't be fixed from this physical realm alone.
We definitely can be trapped in our own and collective 'mind consciousness' never realizing that 'time is actually an illusion', and that everything is happening at once in the Eternal Now -- at different vibrations...Quote:
Posted by Sebastion
"David Icke talking about how the Illuminati are trying to keep the Earths Consciousness or vibrational level as low as possible by keeping us in a vibrational prison thus limiting what we perceive as reality."
My take on the past few pages (as initial thoughts, via hypothetical extrapolation and personal experience):
My vague understanding of the potentials also includes the interviews with Dolores Cannon. Ie, that beings where and are injected into the system, to be 'in situ' is it where..and fix the rumbles and hiccups as they happen.
For...a single correction as envisioned and enacted via an illiterate group, who's thinking and actions caused the problem in the first place..those largish 'jumps' are too sharp. Too sharp a change causes reflection or a prismatic splitting.
Potentially, the only workable cure, would be to inject repair into the flow, to fix the ripples as they happen.
Within the context of the works of Micheal Newton, there resides beings with a descriptor for their activities, they being called 'timelords' - but in a less fantastical way than the word might initially feel to be. Beings who showed an aptitude for such things and grew into the job, just like a 'human' might decide to specialize in some branch of physics, medicine, or engineering.
Basically, comptrollers of time, regarding watching, recording... and also inserting beings into avatars in the proper place and time, regarding the earth as a training ground or school, in it's entirety.
I also suspect, at that juncture of thought, that timelords would be injected into the system, to help fix the ripples 'in situ', for external corrections, large corrections..would very likely fail. For... a big split or ripple, would have manifold interactions and trying to gather all the split threads back together would be well nigh impossible, as time goes by, in the given context. Each individual flaw needs to be locally corrected. Via this methodology the error's manifold ripples can be normalized, or smoothed out. Human intervention (occupied avatar), in it's ignorance, would possibly be considered as only making a bigger mess.
think about it. Humans living in ignorance.. at ANY level of ignorance of their actions..in a post split situation could never understand the depth of the created ripples and vortexes.
But an external cure injected into the system, via being outside of 3d time, as we know it...that could work, as the literal overview is possible. And it would be localized fixes, methinks.
It's 'Godel's incompleteness theorem' as spoken of by Einstein:
"The significant problems we face can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."
Which is sort of a psychology related way of saying that a problem cannot be solved within the confines of the space that created the problem. Thus, the limits of humanity are approached, nay, exceeded by the scope of the problem that was created..and outside intervention and view is likely the only way to enact a fix.
In that moment and space, unwanted aspects can rear their head, via 'unknowns' and their contact with 'duality humans'. Which is which? The human cannot clearly see it, is the conclusion.
On Kelly's Blog, there is an ex-NSA who talked about the secret government moving enormous cargo into the DIA area, risking the operation being discovered, but "they are running out of time".
Why the sudden emergence of so many reports, apparently from independent sources? I am inclined not to think of them as a huge psy-ops to manipulate people (Only the alternative community in any case). This is likely to be real.
I can imagine some answers to some obvious questions, just for entertainment:
. Why are they running out of time?
Because the storm is coming within months. I don't know what, but Bill's warning of ultra -CME could just be one of a few natural calamities.
.Where are they running to?
3 alternatives. Stay on Earth underground, 2, go to the moon's bases, 3 Mars.
. Are they relinquishing the control of Earth humans?
Not likely. They must want to come back to repeat manipulating humans for a few more ages. Otherwise there is no need for that Anglo Saxon Mission. But they may not succeed.
The "Transmutation of Error" - yes this must be fixed from a conscious level, because the heart of the problem is the extreme separation in human consciousness, and that is compounded with the ego influencing our individual consciousness causing irrational splits and contradictions. This is my 2 cents as I firmly believe that time is created by consciousness, thus problems in time need to be fixed via consciousness. I'm being really vague in my explanation though .. .sorry. I'm not finding the best words to describe, but my take is similar to Carmody's interpretation.Quote:
Posted by Carmody
Can you kindly post a link to this?Quote:
Posted by syrwong
*** To Vivek: have a great trip to Peru. If you find yourself in Ecuador, let us know! Many thanks for all your intelligent and valuable contributions.
Carmody,Quote:
"The significant problems we face can not be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."
Which is sort of a psychology related way of saying that a problem cannot be solved within the confines of the space that created the problem. Thus, the limits of humanity are approached, nay, exceeded by the scope of the problem that was created..and outside intervention and view is likely the only way to enact a fix.
In that moment and space, unwanted aspects can rear their head, via 'unknowns' and their contact with 'duality humans'. Which is which? The human cannot clearly see it, is the conclusion.
by this analogy you reached the exact explanation from scientific point of view of what was said long time ago about second coming.
Now whether in flesh or in energy wave Christ will come.
Either way since he is on totally different wavelength than 3d humans we might percieve this event manifold.
Everyone according to their then current level of conscience.
Source sent us many messengers from the dawn of time and we should realize that we aren`t separated from high planes of existence.
Simply our 3d part here experiences 3d and our higher part up there experiences up there.
But since we`re one actually in ultimate reality , our higher self decides to aid our lover self and come to our aid.
You know kids were playing whole day in the mud and sand boxes, it`s evening and mom and dad want them out of mud and sand ,washed and ready for good night sleep , lots of love and great supper.
Every kid will welcome this bath and love their parents.
For the kid will know that it is loved and becoming a man or woman - a God in cosmic sense.
http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...equipment.htmlQuote:
Posted by Bill RyanCan you kindly post a link to this?Quote:
Posted by syrwong
*** To Vivek: have a great trip to Peru. If you find yourself in Ecuador, let us know! Many thanks for all your intelligent and valuable contributions.
I see it as anything but futile. If time and consciousness are interlinked, then we simply continue to maintain the growth of our consciousness which projects the best outcome for the most. More and more of us are on this trajectory and "we" can't be stopped.Quote:
Posted by Dennis LeahyQuote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
So, (if true) Bill Murray's movie, "Groundhog Day", is closer to our present reality than any documentary. And, if true, it would make any 'practical' solution to take away even some of the Cabal's power with a plan like The Reset Button moot - as they would simply insert into the timeline whatever it would take to counter the people's strategy.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
If true, it does seem to make resistance futile, doesn't it? (Not to say I won't die resisting, attempting to understand, pumping out love and compassion with the intuition it is our greatest force, .. and vowing to come back much better prepared for the fight next time.)
Dennis
Something tells me the more "they" pile on, our collective consciousness continues to counter and we have the advantage in this particular us/them dynamic as we are already home in a sense.
Our hearts and minds are already made up in that regard. They can't "do" anything to us anymore.
Each time "they" loop back, the game gets harder and harder for "them."
We have already left this game, see?
Just my dream version of "winning."
It lies in leaving the game...
Is the movie the message? In the new MIB movie, J jumps into a 40 year time loop to save the planet.
Hi BillQuote:
Posted by Bill RyanCan you kindly post a link to this?Quote:
Posted by syrwong
*** To Vivek: have a great trip to Peru. If you find yourself in Ecuador, let us know! Many thanks for all your intelligent and valuable contributions.
What syrwong is saying is that its in Kerry,s blog on Camelot which I have read, posted 2 days ago..
Regards to all
roman
http://projectcamelotportal.com/kerr...equipment.html
Not sure if this is the way to do it. But I copied and pasted the page from ProCam with the actual article. It was posted: Saturday, 14 July 2012 13:34
I have been on a different timeline from Avalon in recent weeks and have not been following this or other threads. However I was asked to listen to the OP audio, and the following was my private two cents worth back on June 30. I may need to go back to the bank for more :)
I would just add that I see personal integrity and focus as a steadying mechanism when timelines go haywire. If timelines split every time an alternative occurs, such a lifestyle will reduce them to a minimum with fewer radically different choices. Good people then are probably not been made to lead unwanted lives but on the contrary are becoming more resolved at every turn. I can imagine this would not be to everyone’s liking.Quote:
This guy seems bona fide, yes, but for me that is not an issue. Basically he’s saying that space travellers are decoys for the real bad guys, who are time travellers. The notion of time is very complex and problematic in ways that people who are comfortable with notions like “us in the future” just don’t get. Actually, if we really understand time as an illusion, it may in fact be a whole lot simpler. Let me give you an example.
The other day I was reading how some species of dinosaur was so big that it needed about ten tons of food per day, and that its mouth was simply not big enough to do the job. Now there are two ways to deal with this. Either you take the scientific approach and speculate that the world was not as it is now, or that they had some other food source, or whatever. Or you accept that everything is just an illusion, fancy artwork or stage scenery that on closer inspection just doesn’t add up. Like a monster gargoyle on a cathedral, it doesn’t have to mean anything, it is just there for decoration. If you are dealing in illusion, it is as easy to create a fossilized dinosaur directly as to create a live one and leave it to fossilize, and it doesn’t have to “work”. This is where we find all kinds of anomalies, and when applied to such things even good science is bad science because it takes the illusion at face value.
The idea is that the fossil is just an object in the present, with no past. This means that a million fossils that seemingly add up to an extinction event do no such thing – you just have a million fossils decorating a doomsday film set. So, dinosaurs that needed more food than they could possibly eat never existed, and neither did they ever die out.
You can do the same with the asteroid belt: it certainly looks like the remnants of an exploded planet, but maybe it is just an artist’s impression of one. In that case it would be just presentday space junk that has not been previously bombarding the earth in fictitious extinction level events. That is just the storyline we have built up to account for all this stuff that is just up there. Anything goes, we can imagine whatever we like, but that is all we are doing: jumping to conclusions, all the time.
There are no rules. Ufos appear to defy the laws of nature and of physics? They are typical anomalies telling us that such laws do not actually exist. When you astral travel, you pass through walls, go wherever you want; this is more of the same. All this paranormal stuff just happens to nudge us into realizing that what we call normal is nothing of the sort.
So maybe the Roswell crash is like a reversal of the fossilized dinosaur. It seems to have tentacles reaching out into the future, involving us as will be, and another, imminent extinction level event: this is the famous Big Picture one arrives at by showing discernment between info and disinfo. There is no big picture, that is another/the big lie – except that it is just an illusion, the very notion of the big lie is itself an illusion. This extinction is not going to happen either, it is just the continuation of our storyline, and us in the future is merely the us that continues in the illusion, i.e. us as part of the illusion.
The bottom line is that the 6.5 billion of us that need to be genocided are getting in the way of that illusion. There are only very few real sheep buying into it, the rest of us are getting on with our lives. How many people worldwide expect the world to become uninhabitable by next year? Hardly anyone. It ain’t gonna happen. That is why nearly everyone has to go, and not just the whistleblowers. And of course we will indeedd be going our separate ways. The disaster scenarios we are hearing are that situation as described from the opposite viewpoint, i.e. part of the illusion describing itself – before it fades back into non-existence.
Hiya Dennis, this is one of the reasons I maintain that planning, and fighting, takes us right back for another go on the old merry go round. I don't know about you man, but I've had it with this game. It's only been going on for billions, or trillions of years, and we haven't gained an inch of ground. To me that's a bulls**t game, why keep playing it? Talk about keeping on doing the same thing, and expecting different results...Isn't there a word for that?Quote:
Posted by Dennis Leahy
What if this gameboard never changes, it's simply us who decides whether to move on, or keep playing? There's that free choice thing again. Your "Groundhog Day" analogy was spot on. Bill Murray couldn't escape the situation, he couldn't fight it, he couldn't change it, and he certainly never figured it out. When all else had failed, what did he do? He transcended it.
One more thing while I'm enjoying my rant for the day.(LOL) In transcending his situation, Bill Murray transformed himself. Were it not for his Goundhog Day situation in the first place, he likely would have remained a rather dorky, and self centered t.v. weatherman. So was his "nightmare" a bad thing? Or maybe a good thing? Hmmmm. That's where I see this Us vs. Them, Good vs. Evil way of looking at our own personal(and collective) Groundhog Day, a great big swing and a miss. What if rather than getting all lathered up about what "they" are up to, we instead turn the focus on ourselves, and attempt to understand what this is actually prompting us to do?
Cheers,
Fred
What would happen if the bull decided not to rush at the red and just trot around the ring?
Would not the matador just look like an idiot in over tight trousers.
Game over
Force meets an opposing force with equal power.
Its called the biceps triceps phenomena in hypnotherapy--- the client cant move.
Like Fred said--- we have tried force to right wrongs since forever with little success.
Fight be-gets fight--- violence more of the same.
Gandhi achieved miracles through non violence but then he was mahatma ( an enlightened soul)
To my mind the only answer is a raising of collective consciousness which happens by each raising their own.
"Be the change you want to see."
Chris