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Crikey ! Watch out for these volunteering tough guys they look quite formidable!
The last chap a 60 y.o. would- be recruit not sure if he's playing incognito or afraid of catching something...
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Crikey ! Watch out for these volunteering tough guys they look quite formidable!
The last chap a 60 y.o. would- be recruit not sure if he's playing incognito or afraid of catching something...
- Ukranian MP Says They're Fighting For The "New World Order" Sparking Theories About The Great Reset
This Russian-Ukraine War reminds me of the Vietnam-Cambodia War
Apr 1977 – Cambodia, pulled by China launched an attack on Vietnam southwestern border.
Late 1977- Jan 1978 – Vietnam launched a counter offensive against the Khmer Rouge but failed to come to terms with them.
Dec 1978 – no longer tolerate Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge’s continual ethnic cleansing of Vietnamese living in Cambodia, Vietnam launched a full scale attack with 150K troops.
Jan 1979 – Vietnam installed Hun Sen, a pro-Vietnam government that began the 10-year occupation. All along, the UN still recognized the Khmer Rouge (the Killing Field) as the legitimate government. They continued to get training in Thailand with Margaret Thatcher’s support.
Sept 1989 – Vietnam withdrew as the Soviet Union was failing and its support waning.
Today – Hun Sen has turned pro-China.
Many a time, history repeats :(
Good grief, what a load of crock, go back to the start of this thread & read it.Quote:
Posted by take
Carpet bombing ? they haven't even had aircraft up before today .
It sounds like you have been reading war propaganda from 1914 ! Surprised you didn't include bayoneting babies lol.
Do you think the nazis in Ukraine are a myth Putin has made up ? https://web.archive.org/web/20150627...was-afraid-of/
Do you not know they have been trying to "ethnic cleanse" Ukraine of Russian speakers & have murdered over 13000 people over the past 7 or 8 years, aided & abetted by your government & mine ?
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Posted by mizo
Chechen Militia is pretty seasoned, they sure aren't going there to cook a pancake breakfast for everyone. This whole thing sucks!
REVISITED
For people that not yet understand what is going on... :sherlock:
I posted this in a Thread that was no much welcome...maybe are indoctrinations guilty...
For Russian phobia people everything is in vain... :facepalm:
this article may explain why the "west" know nothing but escalation...
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1483350
President Biden could have potentially averted the invasion by simply promising that Ukraine would never be admitted to NATO.
"They Actually Want Russia To Invade" - Beijing Slams Biden For Allegedly Provoking Putin
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...rovoking-putin
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Russia & Ukraine Conflict: My Thoughts & Challenge Me If You Disagree! Will Be Reading Your Points:
https://www.revolver.news/2022/02/ob...r-with-russia/
https://www.revolver.news/wp-content...83fb761b89.jpg
(more links and tweets at link - text here)
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KanekoaTheGreat
The Truth About the Ukraine
Way back in 2016, President Obama said Ukraine is simply not a core American interest that is worth killing and dying over.
And the American people understand this.
According to the AP, just 26% of Americans say the U.S. should play a major role in the Russia-Ukraine conflict.
Thanks to the stubbornness, arrogance, and incompetence of America’s discredited foreign policy “elite,” yet another entirely avoidable conflict has gone hot.
A diplomatic solution with Russia might have involved something as simple as demilitarization in the Ukraine and a signed treaty promising Ukraine would never join NATO.
The Globalist American Empire and its European client states still have yet to sanction Russia’s critical oil and gas industries, lest Germany face a massive energy crisis, and energy prices go through the roof worldwide, which in and of itself could topple the Democrats in 2022 and the Biden regime in 2024.
In a 2015 lecture, John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, described how NATO’s relentless expansion east, support for regime change in Ukraine via color revolution, and repeated decision to double down against Russian opposition had created an unnecessary Ukraine crisis.
Belligerent neocons and neoliberals of American foreign policy have always been wrong.
Again and again, interventionism has led America into avoidable and humiliating catastrophes.
It led to disaster in Vietnam, embarrassment in Iraq, and total national humiliation in Afghanistan.
The War Party destroyed Syria and Libya as stable countries and turned them into hotbeds of chaos and terrorism, in return for absolutely nothing.
Interventionists claim that America must fight to demonstrate its strength, yet nothing has depleted America’s strength more than the trillions of dollars wasted on wars that go nowhere.
If America wants its role in the 21st century to stay on par with its role in the 20th, it cannot afford another Iraq-style error. And that means embracing competent realism rather than the unholy neoconservative/neoliberal alliance that has set US foreign policy for thirty years now.
In other words, put America First.
Back in 2003, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney masterminded a war in Iraq that Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden both voted for.
The war was a total disaster, based on false premises, yet because American elites never face consequences for failure, nothing happened.
Come 2011, when Libya became unstable, Hillary Clinton egged on the war, and then luxuriated in the slaughter that followed.
In 2014, this same unholy alliance cheered on a color revolution in Ukraine that predictably led Ukraine down a primrose path of destruction.
Now, eight years into a disaster they created, these interventionists again want to set US policy, and they again want a position of maximum aggression that will prove useless for the people of Ukraine and suicidally self-destructive to the people of America.
The American foreign policy elite is useless, depraved, and discredited.
They deserve no power and no influence whatsoever.
Ignore everything they say on Ukraine and support the right policy of putting America First.
https://www.revolver.news/2022/02/ob...r-with-russia/
@KanekoaTheGreat
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...-deadly-gamble
(more at link)
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KanekoaTheGreat
Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble | Lee Smith
Russian President Vladimir Putin chose this war, Joe Biden said in his Thursday afternoon speech to America regarding the conflict in Ukraine. That is true, but U.S. elites also had something to do with Putin’s ugly and destructive choice—a role that Democrats and Republicans are eager to paper over with noble-sounding rhetoric about the bravery of Ukraine’s badly outgunned military. Yes, the Ukrainian soldiers standing up to Putin are very brave, but it was Americans that put them in harm’s way by using their country as a weapon, first against Russia and then against each other, with little consideration for the Ukrainian people who are now paying the price for America’s folly.
It is not an expression of support for Putin’s grotesque actions to try to understand why it seemed worthwhile for him to risk hundreds of billions of dollars, the lives of thousands of servicemen, and the possible stability of his own regime in order to invade his neighbor. After all, Putin’s reputation until this moment has always been as a shrewd ex-KGB man who eschewed high-risk gambles in favor of sure things backed by the United States, like entering Syria and then escalating forces there. So why has he adopted exactly the opposite strategy here, and chosen the road of open high-risk confrontation with the American superpower?
Yes, Putin wants to prevent NATO from expanding to Russia’s border. But the larger answer is that he finds the U.S. government’s relationship with Ukraine genuinely threatening.
That’s because for nearly two decades, the U.S. national security establishment under both Democratic and Republican administrations has used Ukraine as an instrument to destabilize Russia, and specifically to target Putin.
Why can’t the American security establishment shoulder responsibility for its role in the tragedy unfolding in Ukraine?
Because to discuss American responsibility openly would mean exposing the national security establishment’s role in two separate, destructive coups.
This is a game that Biden and key figures in his administration have been playing for a long time, beginning with the 2013-14 Obama administration-backed coup that toppled a Russia-friendly government in Kyiv.
The Obama administration helped organize street demonstrations for what became history’s most tech-savvy and PR-driven regime change operation, marketed to the global public variously as Maidan.
In February 2014, the protests forced Yanukovych into exile in Moscow. Consequently, Obama administration officials worked to assemble a new Ukrainian government friendly to the United States and therefore hostile to Russia.
In late February, the Russians responded to the American soft coup in Ukraine by invading Crimea and eventually annexing it and creating chaos in Eastern Ukraine.
In 2016, the Hillary Clinton campaign came calling on Ukrainian officials and activists to lend some Slavic authenticity to its Russia collusion narrative targeting Donald Trump.
With the CIA’s Brennan and a host of senior FBI and DOJ officials pushing Russiagate into the press—and running an illegal espionage campaign against the Trump team—Ukrainian political figures gladly joined in.
Key participants included Kyiv’s ambassador to Washington, who wrote a Trump-Russia piece for the U.S. press, and a member of the Ukrainian parliament who allegedly contributed to the dossier.
Russiagate was the kind of vanity project that a buffer state with a plunging GDP and an army equipped with 40-year-old ex-Soviet weapons in a notoriously risky area of the world can ill afford—especially one that lacked a nuclear arsenal.
In July 2019, U.S. national security officials injected yet another Ukraine-related narrative into the public sphere to target the American president.
This one appears to have been initiated by Ukrainian American White House official Alexander Vindman and his colleague Eric Ciaramella, a CIA analyst who had served as Vice President Biden’s point man on Ukraine.
When Vindman told Ciaramella about a phone call in which Trump had asked the Ukrainian president for information regarding allegations about the Biden family’s corrupt activities in Kyiv, they called on help from U.S. intelligence services, the State Department, the Pentagon, Democratic Party officials, and the press.
In order to cover up for what the Bidens and perhaps other senior Obama officials had done in Ukraine, a Democratic Congress impeached Trump for trying to figure out what American policymakers had been doing in Ukraine over the past decade.
The end result was that the Ukrainians had helped weaken an American president who, unlike Obama, gave them arms to defend themselves against the Russians.
More seriously, they reinforced Putin’s view that, especially in partnership with the Democrats, Ukraine did not understand its true place in the world as a buffer state—and would continue to allow themselves to be used as an instrument by policymakers whose combination of narcissism and fecklessness made them particularly prone to dangerous miscalculations.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...-deadly-gamble
- The Russian "War":
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Posted by SpiralI can't imaging how someone so scared of a virus is going to stand up to the likes of the Chechen Militia :facepalm::sarcastic:Quote:
Posted by mizo
War - "a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state."Quote:
Posted by ExomatrixTV
Sure is an armed conflict. Dude thinks war means that they have to invade and kill everybody? lol Its not the old days where they go in and burn down whole villages to wipe out a people. sheesh. Obviously, image is very important these days with the internet and cameras everywhere.
Im sure there are psycho soldiers getting away with some unneccesary and horrible acts. Cuz obviously some murderous psychos join the military just to have a license to be a monster.
It makes sense why Putin can't allow a democracy at this time. He knows that people will sell out and they get infiltrated and absorbed into the rest. It really is one of the most important questions that would help us make sense of it all. Is Putin independent and not bending to the cabal. Or is it just theatre where he plays the villain. I can't tell. Somehow I feel like at the top of the pyramid there is only one hidden hand controlling to some degree ALL of these countries. That the highest level needs to stay in the shadows. Yet, on the mid level, there is real dispute and fighting.
How about the death toll? It seems that each side is throwing out different numbers. Not surprising.
I'm seeing russia = 3000-4000 deaths or something. And Ukraine in the 100s ? That seems pretty far fetched. Is russia still sending in 10 guys with 1 gun or something? lol
Anyone know of some reliable numbers? Or just impossible to get anything close to the truth now since each side wants to paint a picture.
When the Bush Administration announced in 2008 that Ukraine and Georgia would be eligible for NATO membership, I knew it was a terrible idea. Nearly two decades after the end of both the Warsaw Pact and the Cold War, expanding NATO made no sense. NATO itself made no sense.
Explaining my “no” vote on a bill to endorse the expansion, I said at the time:
NATO is an organization whose purpose ended with the end of its Warsaw Pact adversary… This current round of NATO expansion is a political reward to governments in Georgia and Ukraine that came to power as a result of US-supported revolutions, the so-called Orange Revolution and Rose Revolution.
Providing US military guarantees to Ukraine and Georgia can only further strain our military. This NATO expansion may well involve the US military in conflicts unrelated to our national interest…
Unfortunately, as we have seen this past week, my fears have come true. One does not need to approve of Russia’s military actions to analyze its stated motivation: NATO membership for Ukraine was a red line it was not willing to see crossed. As we find ourselves at risk of a terrible escalation, we should remind ourselves that it didn’t have to happen this way. There was no advantage to the United States to expand and threaten to expand NATO to Russia’s doorstep. There is no way to argue that we are any safer for it.
NATO itself was a huge mistake.
When in 1949 the US Senate initially voted on the NATO treaty, Sen. Roberg Taft – known as “Mr. Republican” – gave an excellent speech on why he voted against creating NATO.
Explaining his “no” vote, Taft said:
… the treaty is a part of a much larger program by which we arm all these nations against Russia… A joint military program has already been made… It thus becomes an offensive and defensive military alliance against Russia. I believe our foreign policy should be aimed primarily at security and peace, and I believe such an alliance is more likely to produce war than peace.
Taft continued:
If we undertake to arm all the nations around Russia…and Russia sees itself ringed about gradually by so-called defensive arms from Norway and Denmark to Turkey and Greece, it may form a different opinion. It may decide that the arming of western Europe, regardless of its present purpose, looks to an attack upon Russia. Its view may be unreasonable, and I think it is. But from the Russian standpoint it may not seem unreasonable. They may well decide that if war is the certain result, that war might better occur now rather than after the arming of Europe is completed…
How right he was.
NATO went off the rails long before 2008, however. The North Atlantic Treaty was signed on April 4, 1949 and by the start of the Korean War just over a year later, NATO was very much involved in the military operation of the war in Asia, not Europe!
NATO's purpose was stated to "guarantee the safety and freedom of its members by political and military means." It is a job not well done!
I believe as strongly today as I did back in my 2008 House Floor speech that, “NATO should be disbanded, not expanded.” In the meantime, expansion should be off the table. The risks do not outweigh the benefits!
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...omes-down-nato
- Debunking Ukraine War Lies & Propaganda! SNL’s Hypocritical Ukraine Tribute! W/ Aaron Maté:
- Ukraine-Russia Conflict Intensifies:
More from J.R. Nyquist, published today:
Russia Consolidates Hold on Ukraine, Readies Nuclear RocketsRussia is bringing her Strategic Rocket Forces up to full readiness. Russia is going to be conscripting doctors in the weeks ahead. Russia has prepared for mass burials in anticipation of a catastrophic number of casualties. What is going on here?Six weeks after he became Russia’s defense minister, General Pavel Grachev addressed a June 1992 NATO meeting in Brussels where he defined Russia’s sphere of interest as encompassing all ‘former USSR republics with which it shared territorial borders,’ and claimed that Russia ‘had every right to intervene’ in those territories unilaterally. Subsequently, Russia deployed troops throughout the Caucasus, ‘signed base treaties with Armenia and Georgia’ and ‘posted border troops along much of the former Soviet perimeter.'”
— Lawrence Kohn, “Russia’s Turkish Target”
Amid all this we have Western observers suggesting Putin has failed. One analyst, citing a TASS source, wrote, “Russian President Putin is extremely disappointed with the progress of the military operation in Ukraine.”
Perhaps this disappointment arises from the fact that Putin once bragged he could take Kiev and five NATO capitals in 48 hours. (See Moscow troops could be in five NATO capitals in two days, boasts Putin: Leader boasted to Ukrainian president about Russian power | Daily Mail Online.) Well, even dictators cannot be right about everything. And besides, the weather has not been altogether favorable for the invaders.
Yet a brief commentary is in order. Is Putin really disappointed? Are we to believe sources at TASS? — that ever honest and reliable source of news and information? Of course, the West is eager to depict Putin as desperate. And why not encourage them? I would.
After all, the same cadre who now declare the invasion a failure, the same who wanted to play “the Russia card” against China, the same who said there would be no invasion, have not really changed their overall view. Always, Russia is backward and stupid, and the threat can be minimized. It’s like a disease of the mind that afflicts Americans. It is the conceit of invulnerability, a conceit I am very familiar with. It is an unstudied and militantly unthoughtful conceit.
In moments such as these, as one reader said, we usually miss the forest for the trees. There is a larger strategic context for Moscow’s present moves. Does anyone remember it? Or did anyone notice? We saw an unfortunate article published by the Center for Security Policy, written by Putin’s former advisor, Andrei Illarionov.
The article was published on February 15 and under the title, “There won’t be a big war anytime soon.” According to Illarionov the Russian forces were inadequate for an invasion and the buildup of troops was “a psychological operation.” How could Illarionov have been so wrong? Because his analysis missed the full context of that buildup.
So let us present that context: —
To put this another way, we are governed by a Western elite visibly advancing toward left wing authoritarianism and the censorship of free speech, etc. And so, out of Russia, an invasion takes place to roll back the fall of the Soviet Union. Go back and listen to Putin’s rambling speech on Monday.
- A viral pandemic was unleashed two years ago by Russia’a ally, China;
- Communist riots took place in American cities in which statues of George Washington, U.S. Grant and Teddy Roosevelt were pulled down;
- Then came an unprecedented election involving accusations of systematic fraud;
- The establishment in America of a government of the radical left under the senile façade of Joe Biden;
- Followed by divisive vaccine mandates, the fiasco of the health system (and the biowar defense establishment).
The breakup of the union, he said, was illegal. And so, I submit that Putin is entirely in step with his Western partners. Yet they are denouncing him. And they will play off Putin’s aggression just as they played off COVID. That is the context of the Ukraine invasion.
Now let us broaden that context by looking at who Putin’s allies are. North Korea, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Vietnam, etc. These are all communist countries. Furthermore, I submit that war has always been on Putin’s mind even as it has been on the lips of his communist friends. Strategic surprise is achieved by indirection, by getting your opponent to misunderstand your objectives and methods. Our pundits have gotten Putin wrong, again and again, because they refuse to see who he is.
Putin has been working to make his economy sanction-proof for a long time. We now know that China has stockpiled an enormous amount of grain. What does that tell us? It means they have been getting ready for war. It means they have been preparing for a long, long time.
The question we do not want to ask is: What have these erstwhile communist powers been up to? What have their socialist friends in the West been doing? The facts suggest that everything here is connected. This military move in Ukraine is not an outlier. It is not a misstep. It is a building block for something else.
Putin has been on this path from the beginning. This invasion is not a stand-alone-event. And our own government may be led by people who have been closer to Putin than we realize — all the while pointing a finger of misdirection at Donald Trump.
Having a corrupt, perhaps treacherous, American strategic leadership may be the final contextual tidbit we have been missing. And so, the biggest play of all may be around the corner. But who sees around corners anymore? At each step we are always blindsided.
Here is the interview I did with Cliff Kincaid on Friday. Some of the information is outdated.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BkSmpQpJfMQ