Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

Fascinating... and some of the questions are - if we are open minded that there be these types of hybrids - that are Human / Nephilims - could there also be Human / Other "spirit" being hybrids... and then of course we can go further with that but staying within the realm of the above, then that implies we may have on earth two or three groups -

a.) Human

b.) Human/Nephilim (and we determine these are malevolent from a purely group A POV)

and then with the above consideration of a group

c.) Human/Other "spirit" beings (that are benevolent from the POV of group A)

This, for me is the big question I can't answer for myself to my satisfaction...

is it A and B or is it possibly A, B and C

There has been zero evidence of a group C yet all sorts of folks believe in one or more C group entities that have either lived and/or are alive today.

The dilemma lies in the question of how would we know a group C entity is not simply a disguised group B entity?

Imagine a grand celestial war really happening on earth between group B and group C where group A humans are simply suppliers of the physical framework and otherwise collateral damage to the group B and even possibly group C entities though at least the group C entities might perhaps weep for us group A plain ole humans.

Personally, it seems to me the wisest assumption is that there is just group A and group B.

Betting on that there may be a group C opens one up to the potential to rely on a group C... just what the group B entities may want.

Regardless - the presence of group B on earth at this time must absolutely be the very most important factor for humanity at this time and in humanity's future.

If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

Wouldn't it be great if we had a website that existed which explained the issue in simpler terms, in a way the uninformed reader would at least be likely to explore deeper into the site and/or at least open their mind to the possibility? Its hard enough getting folks to consider any of this stuff... and then we have the believers in group C which may or may not exist.

If group C does not exist (but is instead group B types pretending to be group C), this makes it super hard! damn...

I have yet to hear anyone's testimony that they have had both abduction experiences (group B type interactions) and group C encounters. It always seems its one or the other. An example of encounters with group C types (as claimed by the experiencers) is Drunvalo.

I am gonna try and contact him just to see how he reacts to this dilemma... all I ever heard from him is his experiences with the "angels."

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Truman,

Thank you so much for this extremely valuable post. I am very grateful to you.

The issue of removing the implants i have in my brain and my left ear has been of tremendous concern for me as they are causing too many unpleasant symptoms. Medically, there is nothing wrong with me and I certainly don't show any signs of illness, but the symptoms are nasty.

I already own the books by L. Ron Hubbard which you mentioned above. I will get a copy of EYE OF RA. And whether Dr. Malanga's theory on frequencies works or not, I have started listening to Solfeggio sounds of 600+ Herz. The sounds feel like they create a shield around me.

Also many thanks to the contributors of this thread and to Project Avalon.

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WoW Daughter of Time - implants... please tell the experience you have here. Do you remember getting these implants? Are these physical implants? Please, tell more... thanks justone

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If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

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(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

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*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)

justoneman wrote:

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If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

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If the solution lies in the hundreth monkey, lets try to find that
monkey. Just kidding.

Actually those Japanese Makaks started to washing their potatoes
at the same time ie when the critical mass was reached. Did the
monkeys become more aware? No, they just started to wash
their potatoes.

This is about doing, not being. Im not so sure the hundred monkey
effect works when it comes to human awareness. Thats about being
not doing.

Maharishis gang did the experiment with mass mediatation and concluded
that the crimes in the area diminished a lot as an effect of this. Thats also
about doing or not doing ie not comitting any crime. Its not in any way
proved that the criminals became more aware or more intelligent.

Just sayin.......


All is well


Jorr

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If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.

Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

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(not just directed to 'justoneman', but spurred by his comment)
What then is the proposed "solution?" Is there a consensus from folks like Truman Cash as to a plan to subvert their "Plan?" Any "solution" or "counter-plan" had better not be having all of humanity aware and/or singing the same note. Probably 0.000001% of humanity* is aware of any of this. The vast majority of humanity is in mundane, survival mode and not connected in any sort of intelligent network that they are aware of or can control.

Dennis

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*(I include myself in the group that is unaware. I read this stuff, and all due respect to Truman and Bill and others that have been abducted, this all reads like a comic book or a sci-fi movie script to me. It isn't real to me. It is interesting, but I just can't merely "accept" it as real or "believe" because of someone's testimony. So again, if this is real, then a solution for ridding the planet of these entities is probably not within the capabilities of an almost uniformly unaware and mundane humanity. A solution to rid this planet of these entities - and keep them away - would probably rest in the hands of some sort of powerful and benevolent ET/ED entities, which is, to me at this point, a sci-fi solution to a sci-fi problem.)

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Is that real enough?

(potentially distressing images)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1...to1_r2_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr...zsxso1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj...c1u8o1_500.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4...pkyso1_500.jpg

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0...avso1_1280.jpg

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justoneman wrote:

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If the only thing that can be done is to bring this all to the awareness of the rest of humanity, then so be it. Almost every other conceivable proactive decision seems to have too much potential for flaws.


Houman once mentioned that Dr. Malanga suggested the solution lies in the hundredth monkey. That boils down to awareness so that means we have to work hard at spreading the word, extremely difficult.

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If the solution lies in the hundreth monkey, lets try to find that
monkey. Just kidding.

Actually those Japanese Makaks started to washing their potatoes
at the same time ie when the critical mass was reached. Did the
monkeys become more aware? No, they just started to wash
their potatoes.

This is about doing, not being. Im not so sure the hundred monkey
effect works when it comes to human awareness. Thats about being
not doing.

Maharishis gang did the experiment with mass mediatation and concluded
that the crimes in the area diminished a lot as an effect of this. Thats also
about doing or not doing ie not comitting any crime. Its not in any way
proved that the criminals became more aware or more intelligent.

Just sayin.......


All is well


Jorr

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Honestly, that's the same way I feel - the problem is... who/what will take over if we got rid of the current powers that be?

But I lean your way Jorr - you would think we, humanity, some of us of the group A set, somehow, someway gotta turn the tides on this stuff... but how? wish Houman would create a solutions, exploration thread.

added:

WoW... just saw some of the latest pics from Houman - unfreaking real BUt I know this is going on - and I also know Houman is still holding way, way back.

justoneman. If you are talking about a new group of people in

power, I wanna say I dont need anyone to babysit me. I just

wanna live life and be left alone. i can take care of myself. I

can take responsibility for myself. Those who are afraid of

life, of living always want someone to blame for everything,

then they either play the victim role or the perpetrator role.

A new system, with a new group of people who hungers after

power over others wount solve anything, just a new bunch of

disrespecful idiots to keep at an armlengths distance. LOL


All is well


Jorr

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justoneman. If you are talking about a new group of people in

power, I wanna say I dont need anyone to babysit me. I just

wanna live life and be left alone. i can take care of myself. I

can take responsibility for myself. Those who are afraid of

life, of living always want someone to blame for everything,

then they either play the victim role or the perpetrator role.

A new system, with a new group of people who hungers after

power over others wount solve anything, just a new bunch of

disrespecful idiots to keep at an armlengths distance. LOL


All is well


Jorr

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Agree (and was my point) - absolutely not talking some new group in power... and this is the dilemma -

We should at least try to explore a solutions thread, even if it gets buried in the desert like the Nag Hammadi texts... maybe a future generation will discover what we left them and maybe it might help....


I honestly have no clues other than what Houman is doing - putting the information forth in our awareness... but like Dennis pointed out - .0000000001% may become aware of it and that's probably not going to cut it. Damn!

Maybe mother nature takes care of it all for us... would be ironic if the sun fried the sun god worshipers (though my family would be fried as well and that's what destroys me inside, not doing anything that might help my family and loved ones). Damn!

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Is that real enough?

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If people do wot the archons or the neighbor or their boss or

their superior or whosoever wispers in their ears to do. Its

still people who do this things to other people.


All is well


Jorr

Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis

Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...

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Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

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If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis

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... now you know...

from http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=13407

“We didn’t know!”

Practically an entire nation said that about what was going on within their own nation. Within miles of their own homes. Practically out in the open. Because they didn’t want to know. A whole nation of “plausible deniability.” How could this have happened? What turned so many people into such monsters? What turned millions more people into complicit enablers of the monsters? That couldn’t happen to us, could it?

Target a group of people, blame them for holding people down, turn them into non-persons, turn society against them, then exterminate them all legal-like. Hitler’s Nazi Germany exterminated these “non-persons” by the millions. The “scientist” Mengele did all manner of gruesome “experiments” on them, torturing them to death.


as for attempting to shock you... how to say this... what you have seen is only the tip of the iceberg...

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Then you would have to take down a significant number of people with multiple alters... divide and conquer at his best... more bloodshed would only feed the dragon...

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Well John Lash in this discussion suggests that we take out the

intraspecies predatots ie the psychopats ie those who do wot they

can to kill humanity and everything else on the planet. Maybe it

all boils down to this. Them or the rest of us, choose. There is

no beautiful solution to humanities most urgent problem. And

its probably just the way it should be. Link to the discussion below


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...974#post495974


All is well


Jorr

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Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

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Yeah, maybe better to right them a petition asking them if they

could please stop work against life on planet earth, killing them

would probably hurt their feelings too. Maybe better to let them

roll out their global genocide agenda. Maybe someone have a

brilliant plan that transforms psychopaths into empathic humans

who live respectfully together with non- psychopaths. There seem

to be a lot of people, who goes for grownups who havent let go

of Santa.


All is well


Jorr

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As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

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If those images are not staged, what would "prove" that it isn't the work of humans - plain old, psychopathic humans? In fact, that is definitely the ("art" or real) work of psychopathic humans - whether the voice(s) they hear in their head is their own or from another entity. I do believe most humans are generally good, decent beings, but that there are some severely depraved, sick, twisted minds fully capable of torture - and that it is their own mind, they do not get to blame it on "aliens."

You completely misread my post, and your attempt to shock me with gore missed its mark. Whether the images are real or fake, they are beyond disgusting and have nothing to do with the question that I posed: What then is the proposed "solution?" I'll stay out of your thread now. Thanks anyway.

Dennis

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From my understanding - this is multi-level.

It is the work of human beings caught up in satanism

It is the work of human/nephilim hybreds

It is the work of greys

and possibly it is the work of other off world species, possibly "reptilians" and "draconians"

in addition, there is even the possibility that there are non physical entities that enter the minds of any of the above - some are simply single celled or first stage embryonic beings

and it is possible that it is the highest level of the archontic structure that intervenes in the perceived reality - that level would be the archons themselves (some legends state their are 7) -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon

Yaldabaoth, called also Saklas and Samael
Saturn.
Feminine name: Pronoia (Forethought) Sambathas, "week".
Prophets:[9] Moses, Joshua, Amos, Habakkuk.
From Hebrew yalda bahut, "Child of Chaos"? The outermost who created the six others, and therefore the chief ruler and Demiurge par excellence. Called "the Lion-faced", leontoeides.
Iao
Jupiter.
Feminine name: Lordship.
Prophets: Samuel, Nathan, Jonah, Micah.
Perhaps from Yahu, Yahweh, but possibly also from the magic cry iao in the Mysteries.
Sabaoth
Mars.
Feminine name: Deity.
Prophets: Elijah, Joel, Zechariah.
The Old Testament title God of Hosts was thought a proper name, hence Jupiter Sabbas (Yahweh Sabaoth).
Astaphanos, or Astaphaios
Venus.
Feminine name: Sophia (Wisdom).
Prophets: Esdras, Zephaniah.
Astraphaios is beyond doubt the planet Venus, as there are gnostic gems with a female figure and the legend ASTAPHE, which name is also used in magic spells as the name of a goddess.
Adonaios
The Sun.
Feminine name: Kingship.
Prophets: Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel.
From the Hebrew term for "the Lord", used of God; Adonis of the Syrians representing the Winter sun in the cosmic tragedy of Tammuz. In the Mandaean system Adonaios represents the Sun.
Elaios, or Ailoaios, or sometimes Ailoein
Mercury.
Feminine name: Jealousy.
Prophets: Tobias, Haggai.
From Elohim, God (El).
Horaios
The Moon.
Feminine name: Wealth.
Prophets: Michaiah, Nahum.
From Jaroah? or "light"? or Horus?

Note - some "dragon traditions" consider the universe created by a "primal dragon" - the chief architect (the demiurge)

This being - as depicted by the Yazidi, started with the Peacock Angel - "Melek Taus" -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazidi

"In the Yazidi belief system, God created the world and it is now in the care of a Heptad of seven Holy Beings, often known as Angels or heft sirr (the Seven Mysteries)."

Notice how all these systems have 7 primal entities.

Notice how there are 7 primary "archangels" in various traditions and relgions -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_archangels

Enoch...

Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel, Raguel, Remiel and Saraqael

I am not suggesting these are one and the same... perhaps one group is the antithesis of the other. Still - just pointing out how 7 seems core to this primal or hierarchically higher level.

thus I should include here - the Seven princes of Hell -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_princes_of_Hell

Lucifer - Pride

Mammon - Greed

Asmodeus - Lust

Satan - Wrath

Beelzebub (also called Baal) - Gluttony

Leviathan - Envy

Belphegor - Vanity and Sloth

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As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

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Yeah, and if you listen to the discussion I refered to maybe you had

noticed taht the participants all agree on that the archons see the

psychopaths as a golden opportunity to really play out their agenda.

If you call the psychopaths a symptom, I think you have to call all

human beings who act out the archons agenda symptoms. I think

there is a huge difference between most people, being

manipulated by the archons and psychopaths gladly letting the

archons use them.


All is well


Jorr

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, the chapter in Truman Cash's The Eye of Ra that I was most interested in is titled, "In-Between Lives Implants and Out Of Body Abductions".

In this chapter, Truman describes how he (we?) are trapped.

He used to be a "free being" who could incarnate (or not), but he was seduced by Earthly pleasure and joined the ranks of the trapped. And then he experiences the same sequence recalled in several sessions that describes his death and his soul leaving his body.

He is sucked (probably electromagnetically) into a tunnel of light which pulls him to an implant station, a big round sphere. His first several lives he is squeezed into a body in the light room, and later placed in a capsule and sent down to Earth (as an adult,I believe.) In later lives, he enters his mother's womb in the conventional manner.



But in both scenarios, there is an insectoid creature that appears in the LIGHT room as a loving light being, but that is only because it manipulated his mind. Before sending him on his new life, this being erased his previous life's memories, and then programmed his mind with loving thoughts about God, and with the idea "Always return to the light".

I hope my summary of this process is correct. Elements of this account are consistent with other accounts I have read. It's one more testimony that I will keep in mind as I struggle to understand the concept of the matrix, the loosh farm, etc.

Mr. Cash, perhaps you could answer several questions I have. I realize you might not be able to, because these memories were retrieved through hypnotic sessions.

1. Do you think the implant stations were physical structures, or were they "astral" in nature?

2. Do you believe that only the Chosen Ones, those that have been abducted over a number of lives by the 4 ET groups, are subject to the entrapment procedure that you described, or that ALL humans are processed by ETs in the implant stations?

3. At the end of The Eye of Ra, you say, "Yes, I believe that the truth could indeed set us free". My question is how could knowledge of the Trap System negate the powerful electromagnetic force that sucks you into the tunnel of light which leads to the implant station? You also say earlier in the chapter that, "I do believe that we have the potential for recovering our ability as powerful spiritual beings". I also believe this, but the amnesia we are programmed with makes this recovery a VERY tough challenge. How to meet that challenge is the question.

Whether you chose to respond to this post or not, I really appreciate your contribution to this and other forums, Mr. Cash.

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As long as you keep seeing "simple humans/people" behind this you will keep running in circles...

these psychopaths are the symptoms of the disease not its cause...

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YES! OK I agree - its why when all that Drake stuff ramped up and I saw all the talk of executions I jumped ship. Killing the hosts does nothing to eradicate the actual parasite behind it all - they would just find another host. Thanks Houman... I really bet this is the case. I know lots of people think I am nuts but I see the psychopaths the same as I see a sick alcoholic.

One of my fantasies is that we all try to go to the practicing satanists and work with them to find a way they could stop "drinking" - no judgement, no stupid ideas of "revenge" or "punishment" or worse - "executions"... that's ludicrous. They need help... again, I said its just a fantasy, but imagine a mass "intervention" by loving members of the human family that works with those within the human family who have this illness of the soul.

I looked at the AA stuff and saw how they saw an alcoholic as having a disease of the body, mind and spirit.. and I thought, wow, they left out the soul. And Malanga has all 4 seperate - I see that as brilliant and very likely the key. Practicing satanists are simply humans suffering from a disease that effects all four components of their very being.

Anyways... I hope I am not sounding too nuts here but this really seems true.

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From my understanding - this is multi-level.

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Exactly.

And at each level, to the extent it is not overwhelmed by a higher level, it makes sense ... there is cyclic structure and fractal order, persistent patterns, self perpetuating activity.

We usually think of "chaos" as being the absent of structure, but more often chaos is the projection onto a given level of order in a higher level. The elder Rothschild looks out his mansion window at the distant riots, and nods ... "going down as intended" (from his level of awareness.)

As my father used to say, "the wheels of justice may grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine." He, and I, and many of us, like to believe that the ultimate, highest, orderings are benign. That may be true, in the "long" run. But the "long" run can be eons.

Meanwhile, and evidently currently on this planet, the highest levels of influence that I'm vaguely aware of are at least in part dark and evil.