Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
Seriously it's so good to have you back Bashi, You stormed into this thread and sorted out a whole bunch of stuff and no doubt calmed a few nerves. I knew that this comet wasn't the problem but they'll have a lot of fun or had a lot of fun at it's expense.
The nitty gritty is the parts that we are failing to see. No doubt with your perspective on this we can move forward into finding out whats really going on.
Missed your style and glad to see you back.
You've already given me plenty to think about already.. so I'll take a walk and have a good think.
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hehe :D
I still wouldn't discard the theory of it being a craft ..... yet, if I were you :).
Please give me a good reason to do that - apart from your personal testimony...
Maybe you can ask an astronomer to do attempt at sound penetration, like what it was attempted on the Moon.
Tell me if you get something like binaural beats back :).
PS: A welcome back from me too :)
"to do attempt at sound penetration" : How is that done from Earth?
A few Russians did it.
Let me get back at you on that, okay? :)
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I could not watch you drafting your last will. ;)
No question about Earth changes. But its not Elenin...
I, for one, would be interested to hear your views on what will cause possible (certain?) Earth changes, Bashi, if you think this is a good place, that is. Thanks.
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Welcome home bashi ;) The fact of the matter is that no one knows exactly what ELEnin is, or even if there is another object(s) coming with it... We will have to wait and be dazzled. :)
"This video is based on my own personal research, the hard work and research of others that seem credible ( thank you ) and my gut feeling that Comet Elenin is really a Brown Dwarf Star. Here are some reason's as to why:
In 1983 they noticed the orbits of Pluto, Uranus and Neptune were being disturbed. They spent many millions of dollars to construct and launch the I.R.A.S. telescope to investigate on January 26th,1983. Just 4 days after launch, on January 30th,1983 there was a major story in the NY Times, and again September 10th, 1984 in the US News... THEY FOUND SOMETHING LARGE, VERY LARGE, possibly 4 x the mass of Jupiter!!! Now... let's fast forward to 2007, I assume based on what research they've done up to this point, the SPT (south pole telescope) is constructed, with an extreme southern view point, costing even millions more! Shortly after, there are leaked photos, one that supposedly had coordinates, leading you to a "black box" in Google Sky. I also found something in Google Sky that has a MAJOR HEAT SIGNATURE when viewed in infrared, which is what you would need to see a Brown Dwarf, and when in normal light spectrum, the anomaly is red with what appears to be satellites or planets! While in infrared, I discovered a second black box!"
Read more here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4bzW2Mt7oOI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4bzW2Mt7oOI
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
Great job bashi :)
I have been vacationing with limited net access so just catching up on what you have added here.
Nibiru/Planet X - Pictures by Professional Photographer
the link here:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogs...m_medium=email
any feedback from photographers etc. is very welcome
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Milk Hill of June 2009 seems to predict a new, bright astronomical object in our solar system, possibly a comet or even an extra planet, on the new Moon of June 1, 2011
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/a...time2011b.html
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
yes, maybe the three earthquakes in chile, new zealand and japan that happened when earth was in the gravity trough between "comet" elenin and the sun were pure coincidence, just like that fact that there are now hundreds of smaller earthquakes all over the planet every day, and that it's getting more and more as "comet" elenin comes closer. maybe that's what most concerned people should believe to stay calm and live their day to day lives along with the part of the population that is still asleep. i'm ready for the worst case scenario and use the fine weather to get my garden in shape in order to start growing food again after "comet" elenin has passed. we're all being prepared in different ways by our higher selves and i for one am dead sure the pole shift is coming, if not in september, which is the most likely date, then it will still be just a matter of months.
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A few Russians did it.
Let me get back at you on that, okay? :)
That would be nice...
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I could not watch you drafting your last will. ;)
No question about Earth changes. But its not Elenin...
I, for one, would be interested to hear your views on what
will cause possible (certain?) Earth changes, Bashi, if you think this is a good place, that is. Thanks.
Sorry, this is about Elenin etc..
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At some point it should be between us and the sun. If it indeed is a very large object (like a brown dwarf) it will block our view of the sun.
1. The only way we could see a brown dwarf with the naked eye is when it blocks other stars
2. Some claim that this event could well be the 3 days of darkness from the bible.
i do not believe that it will be large enough to block our view of the sun. the three days of darkness will only be in the northern hemisphere because of the pole shift. the northern hemisphere will face away from planet x and the sun for three days while it passes - possibly sep 26-28, hence the three days of darkness. the good thing may be that any CMEs during that time won't hit the northern half of the planet, not directly, anyway.
i think it will be visible with the naked eye or rather its corona will be visible when it triggers CMEs. that's also how it's described in prophecies and religious scriptures.
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
While this thread is about Elenin I would say that perhaps much that has been attributed to the comet is actually coming from an approaching massive band of energy as stated in the Coast to Coast interview of David Sereda who at least has some credentials regarding the study of Astro Physics
At the risk of being monotonus here is the link
https://youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc
I have no way of assessing such information and rely on bashi and other more acquaint with the subject.
views on this video would be appreciated, perhaps else where or even by PM
Chris
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Thanks TSD. I wonder if an alternative to the "ring of fire" quakes has been considered tho. (This post may be in the wrong place mods sorry)
I am sure everyone is aware of the French testing at Muroroa Atoll up intil 1997. What people may not realise is how many were actually detonated. 147 underground and 41 atmospheric. Now Im no scientist, but that sort of power shaking our plates can only lead to weakness if not fractures! Why did they have to let of 200 odd nuclear weapons - is there something in the pacific they want eradicated???
By way of a breif history: They were only stopped after New Zealand sent two warships to protest and took France to the International Court of Justice.
French insistence on testing was a key reason New Zealand passed its Nuclear Free Zone Act in 1987
France went underground, holding 147 underground tests were then conducted at Mururoa and neighbouring Fangataufa until all testing stopped in 1996.
A 1979 test caused part of the atoll to collapse at the time, flooding the island.
Mururoa has been left with large radioactive caverns which are not currently believed to be open to the ocean. (others say the are open)
http://fijitoday.wordpress.com/2011/04/ ... s-a-major/
This is a photo of a 914 kiloton thermonuclear device in the Mururoa Atoll on July 3, 1970. The nuclear device was suspended from a balloon, which was filled with 14,000 cubic meters of helium, 500 meters (1600 feet) feet over the Dindon testing sector
http://29.media.tumblr.com/0mMBTh95H...tALyAX_500.jpghttp://souvenirs-de-mer.blogdns.net/...FANGATAUFA.jpghttp://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...oa_675109n.jpg
France carried out almost 200 nuclear tests in French Polynesia between 1966 and 1996.
The party says during this time France was allowed to use the Moruroa atoll free for its nuclear weapons tests. France continues its research on the Moruroa atoll under the protection of the military http://abcasiapacificnews.com/stories/2 ... tm?desktop
So just thought I would put it out there - this may be the reason for all the earthquakes? (either that or they are nuking atlantis / Mu)
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A few Russians did it.
Let me get back at you on that, okay? :)
That would be nice...
From what I found so far is that they used acoustic frequency targeted at a specific spot on the Moon. What they got back on their equipment was ringing sounds.
I can't find the names of the scientists. But I believe its the same Russian scientists like the duo from the early 70s that proposed a 'Spaceship Moon' theory, I believe, for the first time. They were Alexander Scherbakov and Mihkai Vasin.
Since this object is supposed to get near the Moon, I was thinking maybe a similar experiment can be attempted. Although because of the size of the object, focusing such a concentrated sound might be difficult.
But I can't prove it to you in any other way. This is the only way it can be proven.
Maybe if pictures of the 'send-off' are taken, you may change your mind.
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Do you really think that an astronomer would have problems in finding an object which is 20 times bigger than Mars and nearly as close as Mars?
Therefore ELENIN can not be a brown dwarf.
If it is a brown dwarf, they wouldn't be able to see it other than with a very big infrared telescope. This is why the amateur astronomer finding it is bunk. (he may have found an incidental comet out there near it, but not the Dwarf that IS perturbing us when it aligns, according to the JPL software).
It's cold, gives off no light. Will not be seen until it is close enough to reflect our sun's light.
You haven't debunked the Brown Dwarf theory, imho.
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Do you really think that an astronomer would have problems in finding an object which is 20 times bigger than Mars and nearly as close as Mars?
Therefore ELENIN can not be a brown dwarf.
If it is a brown dwarf, they wouldn't be able to see it other than with a very big infrared telescope. This is why the amateur astronomer finding it is bunk. (he may have found an incidental comet out there near it, but not the Dwarf that IS perturbing us when it aligns, according to the JPL software).
It's cold, gives off no light. Will not be seen until it is close enough to reflect our sun's light.
You haven't debunked the Brown Dwarf theory, imho.
Problem is that we start trusting the JPL data ... while JPL has a dubious history too.
I have not made my mind up yet ... just monitoring all the bits and pieces on this topic, evaluating them as best as I can.
One theory (still) is that the earthquakes are man made (or amplified/aimed energy bursts from the sun) specifically synchronized with the JPL data
(or vice versa) to scare the hell out of 'awake' observers.
So what's the status on (amateur) astronomers' difficulty to find this thing ... real or bogus ?
That might give us a better clue on what's real and what not.
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One theory (still) is that the earthquakes are man made (or amplified/aimed energy bursts from the sun) specifically synchronized with the JPL data
(or vice versa) to scare the hell out of 'awake' observers.
So what's the status on (amateur) astronomers' difficulty to find this thing ... real or bogus ?
That might give us a better clue on what's real and what not.
That is true, they certainly COULD be doing that. Seems a bit expensive and elaborate of a program if only to scare awake individuals (there aren't that many of us) and many of us in that category aren't scared at all but more amused.
And don't forget the uptick in smaller earthquakes since the New Year (as it gets much closer), the magnetic pole drifting, the animals deaths, the moon 'turning' to a strange position, etc. Do you think man has the capability of making all of those things happen at once too?
And then we have the predictions of the ancient texts and inscriptions, too numerous to list. Oh, and the 3600 year cyclical extinction events. Hmmm.
Time will tell, of course. It's a great show! I am loving it! No doom in my heart. This is the reason I came to be here now. I WANT to be a part of this event!
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There are many signs that nobody can deny (unless likes to live in denial). ;)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nfX5zl6ynbU
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One theory (still) is that the earthquakes are man made (or amplified/aimed energy bursts from the sun) specifically synchronized with the JPL data
(or vice versa) to scare the hell out of 'awake' observers.
So what's the status on (amateur) astronomers' difficulty to find this thing ... real or bogus ?
That might give us a better clue on what's real and what not.
That is true, they certainly COULD be doing that. Seems a bit expensive and elaborate of a program if only to scare awake individuals (there aren't that many of us) and many of us in that category aren't scared at all but more amused.
And don't forget the uptick in smaller earthquakes since the New Year (as it gets much closer), the magnetic pole drifting, the animals deaths, the moon 'turning' to a strange position, etc. Do you think man has the capability of making all of those things happen at once too?
And then we have the predictions of the ancient texts and inscriptions, too numerous to list. Oh, and the 3600 year cyclical extinction events. Hmmm.
Time will tell, of course. It's a great show! I am loving it! No doom in my heart. This is the reason I came to be here now. I WANT to be a part of this event!
What you say is true ... it's however not the hard more scientific evidence we're looking for.
I don't mind doing some brainstorming ... it might open some new visions to investigate.
The reason I brought up the man-made issue and the scare theme is because it follows the warnings made by Wernher von Braun.
The asteroid problem would come before the alien scare tactics and they seem to be moving that direction already too.
Is this their attempt of the asteroid scare tactics ?
Besides the assumptions we can make it's up to them (originators of such plans) to give a more elaborate answer on the "why
spending money on it" question.
