Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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Mashika
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Gogol, most of my friends in Mexico assumed he was Russian, they could not understand that Ukrainian born and Russian born are two different things, it was the same old "USSR is Russia" mentality. Hard times trying to make them understand the difference :bigsmile:
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Well Mashika... I have to shamefully admit that I did not know that Gogol was not Russian (he was Ukrainian, have I got that right?). But he did write his masterworks in Russian, didn’t he?, and hence belongs to Russian literature and Russian-language civilisation — doesn’t he?
He was Ukrainian, and yes he did write in Russian, but here are some points about that
A lot of people consider St. Petersburg as a culture center, so was it back then as well. If you wanted to be noticed or famous, you had to go there and merge into the culture, so Russian was a requirement. But otherwise he would have written in Ukrainian if he could have achieved the same results
He wasn't hateful or resentful of Russian culture, as far as know, he did not even remotely think of Russia in that way, so having Russian as a first language for his writings was just normal and accepted. Different times than current Ukraine
The thing is this, the way people tend to see Russia, from my experience is that it equals the Soviet Union, but Gogol was born in Ukraine, at the time the USSR didn't even exist. He was no Soviet citizen :) But since people do this (USSR is Russia) then they somehow get it all mixed up and just think of him as a "Soviet Russian" writer
I tried to explain the historical context and some other stuff but i never got through, it was an uphill battle that i very soon gave up trying to fight
He does belong to Russian literature, but this should not take away that he was Ukrainian and that he also belongs, or should belong to Ukrainian literature, because he was influenced by it and his writings were very clearly 'Ukrainian' in nature, even if written in Russian. Back then, he was considered a very good example of Ukrainian literature, even if his writings were in Russian, see? And he had no problem with being considered that, a great example of Ukrainian literature originally written in Russia because the language was used all over Ukraine at the time and there was no shame or reason not to.
Well the thing is, some of the people i talked to about this back then in Mexico, always tried to show off like they had great knowledge of those things and details, but they didn't and it was a bit bothersome so when we talked a bit more about it they got angry because they suddenly were not "the experts". It was more like an ego thing. They could not just say "oh i didn't know that, have to read more about his life then", it was always more like "I'll keep trying to figure out how to come on top and make you look lesser educated than me about this subject" thing :)
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
In this video, at 29 minutes 50 seconds in, Lara Logan tells the hosts about one of Putin's demands for a peace solution. To hand over the scientists from the bio weapons labs so that he can take them to the Hague world court as part of his evidence.
https://rumble.com/v22i5r0-foc-show-...d-nations.html
She also says that her intel sources told her Russia has destroyed at least 8 labs but there are 3 they have not destroyed because the materials inside them are too dangerous to be dealt with in that way.
Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v1zw0vu
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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Bill Ryan
It's one of a bunch of clear markers of the collapse of what we used to call western culture. (David Paulides
did a whole video about this yesterday, all about
how to destroy a nation —
referring to the US. One of the markers was moral weakness and decay, combined with loss of integrity and humanity in every area of so-called 'authority'.)
Something like this?
Four Fabians, Beatrice and Sidney Webb, Graham Wallas, and George Bernard Shaw, founded the London School of Economics with the money left to the Fabian Society by Henry Hutchinson.
Formed out of a prior club, because:
Some members also wanted to become politically involved to aid society's transformation; they set up a separate society, the Fabian Society.
And this seems completely correct:
Bertrand Russell briefly became a member, but resigned after he expressed his belief that the Society's principle of entente (in this case, between countries allying themselves against Germany) could lead to war.
A few responses:
Although H. G. Wells was a member of the Fabian Society from 1903 to 1908, he was a critic of its operations, particularly in his 1905 paper "The Faults of the Fabian", in which he claimed the Society was a middle-class talking shop. He later parodied the society in his 1910 novel The New Machiavelli.
During the First World War, Vladimir Lenin wrote that the Fabians were "social-chauvinists", "undoubtedly the most consummate expression of opportunism and of Liberal-Labour policy". Drawing from Friedrich Engels, Lenin declared the Fabians were "a gang of bourgeois rogues who would demoralise the workers, influence them in a counter-revolutionary spirit".
In the 1920s, Leon Trotsky critiqued the Fabian Society as provincial, boring and unnecessary, particularly to the working class. He wrote that their published works "serve merely to explain to the Fabians themselves why Fabianism exists in the world".
I am not sure they have done much "in their name", but, the LSE is slightly older than the U. S. Federal Reserve, the implications are obvious. And it seems to me that these "monetary tools" cause that same decay to those who are trampled by it. It seems more and more there are "parts missing" from everyone around me. I am of the view that "intelligence", i. e. primarily CIA, has this mission which is more or less by request from the British side. This kind of Capitalism is like a disease which is by no means necessary.
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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Mashika
Well the thing is, some of the people i talked to about this back then in Mexico, always tried to show off like they had great knowledge of those things and details, but they didn't and it was a bit bothersome so when we talked a bit more about it they got angry because they suddenly were not "the experts". It was more like an ego thing. They could not just say "oh i didn't know that, have to read more about his life then", it was always more like "I'll keep trying to figure out how to come on top and make you look lesser educated than me about this subject" thing :)
I'm one who didn't know at all about Gogol being Ukrainian. Here's the Wiki page:
Nikolai Vasilyevich Gogol (1809–1852) was a Russian novelist, short story writer and playwright of Ukrainian origin.
Gogol was one of the first to use the technique of the grotesque, in works such as "The Nose", "Viy", "The Overcoat", and "Nevsky Prospekt". These stories, and others such as "Diary of a Madman", have also been noted for their proto-surrealist qualities. According to Viktor Shklovsky, Gogol's strange style of writing resembles the "ostranenie" technique of defamiliarization. His early works, such as Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka, were influenced by his Ukrainian upbringing, Ukrainian culture and folklore. His later writing satirised political corruption in the Russian Empire (The Government Inspector, Dead Souls). The novel Taras Bulba (1835), the play Marriage (1842), and the short stories "The Tale of How Ivan Ivanovich Quarreled with Ivan Nikiforovich", "The Portrait" and "The Carriage", are also among his best-known works.
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