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Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, Sorcha Faal is quoted several times throughout this article. However, it appears as though the author is using S.F. as simply a parallel guideline reference. The reason that I am posting this is because of some very interesting dots that this author is connecting.
Check the linked article below about the "Vibrant Response 12" Mass Catastrophe Excercise Takes Place in the Heartland during this very same time frame. It just seems very suspicious, especially when you read about it.
This article also talks about the strange sounds that are heard all over the world from the Earth.
It wasn't 30,000 allegedly lost from these "blasts", it was 30,000 allegedly at the site of Each "blast". 30,000 is the approximate true number of people who lost their lives during 9/11...not 3,000.
The 2011 Washington D.C. Earthquake: The Case for or Against an Underground Nuclear Detonation near Washington D.C.
At the same time, the explosion of a nuke detonated near Washington DC and triggering an earthquake at the same time when “Vibrant Response 12 Mass Catastrophe Exercise” was taking place in Southern Indiana, the heartland of America is also cause for pause. Billed as the “largest catastrophic incident drill”, it engaged 7000 U.S. Army, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Department of Defense civilian personnel at the Muscatatuck Urban Training Complex in response training for a catastrophic, domestic, chemical, biological radiological or nuclear incident should such an event occur on American soil.
Yet, even more fascinating was the revelation to millions of American’s that beneath their homes are large tunnels that are virtual military bases miles under the ground. These can be used to transport military hardware and military personnel from one part of the country to another and no one knowing such things are happening below the crust of the earth.
Russian engineers were, also, able to duplicate this unique sound this past March when they were called into Ukraine to vent a number of deep underground tunnels from poison gas that had killed three people near Kiev and which was, likewise, captured by U-Tube video titled, “Strange Sounds in Ukraine; Are these the Sounds of the Trumpets of Revelation?”
http://destination-yisrael.biblesear...-near-was.html
"Vibrant Response 12" Mass Catastrophe Excercise Takes Place in the Heartland
Ellen Cannon, Chicago Homeland Security Examiner
August 23, 2011
In a quiet location of southern Indiana more than 7000 U.S. Army, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Department of Defense civilian personnel are engaged in the largest catastrophic incident drill to be conducted by the U.S. Army North. Starting on August 16 and ending on August 28th, this highly complex drill aims to train troops to respond to a catastrophic domestic chemical, biological radiological or nuclear incident should it happen on American soil. This federal emergency response exercise, called Vibrant Response 12, will take place at Muscatatuck Urban Training Complex in Jennings County near Butlerville.
The “Vibrant Response Team 12” largely includes the activities of the 51st Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team, (CST), Michigan Army National Guard, who simulate leaving Cincinnati when “they observe the flash of light and feel the rumble of a simulated nuclear blast.
http://www.examiner.com/homeland-sec...-the-heartland
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Any underground explosion of that magnitude would have been instantly detected elsewhere in the world.
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They were... look at the signature:
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These seismograms are of the Virginia "EQ."
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They were... look at the signature:
Those look to my (very, very amateur) eye like explosions, not earthquakes. Very sudden beginning, and rather limited variety of frequencies.
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They were... look at the signature:
Those look to my (very, very amateur) eye like explosions, not earthquakes. Very sudden beginning, and rather limited variety of frequencies.
That 's what they look like to me as well. When I was able to locate these seismograms and saw those, I then tried to find the Colorado ones but wasn't successful. So, I took screen shots of those before they got "archived."
Any need to remind anyone of the peculiarity of that particular EQ which was "felt" at incredible distances from epicenter? Such was followed by a certain amount of confusion of "explanations" from "experts." Yet the 6.7 Vancouver Island EQ was barely felt even near epicenter...
Edit: See my post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post294433
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Although atmospheric testing can not pinpoint the exact location of a nuclear explosion, it can declare that the explosion actually occurred is in the index characteristic of xenon isotopes in the atmosphere. This finding is considered an absolute nuclear signature.Find out if a seismic event is an earthquake or an explosion is relatively simple. Scientists perform analysis of wave patterns, which can confirm exactly what happened. Quite simply, in an earthquake, the ground begins to shake slowly as the plates collide against each other, and then the seismic activity increases when the ground really starts to move. In an explosion, the initial burst is extremely powerful. Then, the movement of soil is becoming weaker. Find out if what happened was an explosion and not an earthquake, however, is only part of the process, as seismographs can not determine the nature if the explosion was nuclear or conventional. Furthermore, it is possible to “hide” a nuclear explosion by detonating it, for example, in a large underground cavity. This reduces the effects on the ground because all the gas released by the explosion is confined in the gaping hole. These limitations of the seismograph make atmospheric testing is a necessary component in the detection system.
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A horrible thought came to mind... disinfo can have many edges... one is to cover-up and make disappear, another is to ridicule, etc...
So, if someone wants some truth to be disbelieved; ridicule it as in the case of 911 and "conspiracy nutcases"... now it seems there is another system of ridiculing: Slip it to a well known disinfo agent that nobody in all seriousness and in their right mind would believe... like Sorcha Faal... and the truth gets dressed as an outrageous lie because of the source...:wacko2:
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If all these underground facilities are inter connected then I would have thought the entire network would have been affected quite significantly by a nuclear blast. I mean they should even have got a good whoosh in Pine Gap.
I can imagine a load of Aussies running around saying WTF Was That Bruce.
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Bollinger
As you probably know from the gist of my posts, I'm not easily given to "knowledge" or "hearsay" that a person claims without evidence. In this case, i.e. the Fulford interview, I was pleasantly surprised by the logical consistency of Fulford's replies to Wilcock's line of questioning which I thought DW did very ably and without any hint of presumption.
It is also true that we have seen and heard Ben Fulford make some astounding moves in the past (e.g. appearing with Leo Zagami and giving ultimatums to the Illuminati which in the end didn't seem to come to anything) but going purely by the merits of this particular interview, I don't believe Fulford fudged any of his answers to Wilcock’s questions and came across as genuine as anyone can come across under such circumstances. Let's also not forget that he managed to bring Rockefeller himself to some dingy room for an interview. Remember that? Who in the alternative community can claim to have done anything like that?
None of what I’ve said above or before in this thread is meant to be taken as an endorsement or derision of Fulford. It is simply an observation that anyone who tries to bluff their way through a serious interview like the one we heard will make mistakes and Fulford did not appear to make any in my estimation. So, my conclusion was that it is entirely plausible. What makes me say that?
We have already seen and heard evidence with regard to the existence of underground cities. We have ample evidence to suggest there are real financial holes in the world’s economy right now and it seems to be affecting the US and Europe the most. Knowing what we know about humanity, it is entirely possible that there are those who are against the wrongdoers as well as those who are working for them. This world balances precariously in a tug of war between those who want to enjoy it and those who want to control it.
Nothing of what Fulford said detracts from what we know some quarters of humanity to be capable of. So given the weight of all that we already know, everything he said sounds very plausible.
As to whether it is sufficient for us to make the leap and declare it as being fact, that requires a little more evidence and that can only be satisfied if the hopeful message given at the end of the interview transpires into reality in the timeframe given, and we can see a real change in our everyday lives.
I'm gonna put my neck out here and say, I was too. Of course, I also would actually like to see these things come about.
The feeling I'm getting on this is actually tangible. Here's what gets me, there really are people who seem to be jumping ship from the IMF, etc. But that could just be a ruse. I'm following this through.
I felt that earthquake, I live on the east coast on the southern most tip of North Carolina that juts out into the Atlantic. I've experienced many earth quakes all across this country, to include California, Oregon, Washington state, and Ohio. In NC, the continental shelf periodically shifts. There's a particular sound that accompanies this as well.
This quake was actually different than any other I have experienced. Every earth quake I've ever experienced came with tremmors that built up to a cresendo. The quake I experienced in August had no build up. First, there was nothing, and then there was shaking. My whole house wobbled South to East like a what one would find in a Dr. Suess book for a couple of seconds, and then that was it.
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I suppose there's another thread on the forum somewhere that goes into the earthquake vs. underground explosion theory including the seismic data. I'm intrigued by that line of investigation.
I know some of us are very busy, but I don't think it helps to take an outright dismissive position on disclosures like this. Even if it's largely a disinformation piece or part of the controlled information release process, we know there are always elements of truth buried in there.
I do agree that DW often makes half baked assertions some times but BF's explanations seems to me to be quite plausible.
Personally, I will be on the watch for corroboration since these are pretty powerful assertions. It's still early days.
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First, I want to say to the moderators and the forum members reading this that I have a style of writing that can come across a little sarcastic; and, I'm sure that this post will be no exception. I will beg your forgiveness in advance and invite you to read on with a grain of salt.
Second, and I a sincere about this, I enjoyed listening to the interview between David and Benjamin. I especially liked the way David handled the interview. He gave Ben a chance to talk; but, he appropriately interrupted Ben in places to seek clarification; AND, to keep his interview on track..all the way to the end. He was brilliant. I mean, come on...there's no way David could have asked any questions if he didn't interrupt Benjamin, right? You've heard Benjamin talk. Anyway, I was cheering on David as he asked some really good questions.
Now, here comes my wry sense of humor. Please don't beat me up too bad over this. It's just my way.
If the Sorsha Fall / Benjamin Fulford / David Wilcock nuke scenario doesn't work for ya...then perhaps you might appreciate what's behind Door #2. You can keep your nuke theory, or you can decided to trade it in for a brand new reality (or whatever label you want to put on it). That's right, Johny, it's "The Andromeda Council Scenario" where you get to ditch the radiation and trade-up for they simplicity and truth of a channeled message, not once, not double, but TRIPPLE checked! Those pesky deep underground tunnels and bases with their gray and reptilian occupants and human minions were hit with a huge sonic thump that buried tens of thousands of them. Before we get too upset over the massive loss of defeated aliens and minions, please understand that they were given plenty of warning.
By the way, about David Wilcock...I've noticed that he's maintained that 'Management' won't allow nukes; and, yet...I have to be careful here; becuase, I don't want to mis-quote Mr. Wilcock...I guess rather than quote him, I'll leave the question and double check the answer later for myself: What were David's sources telling him about nukes? I don't recall whether he was getting confirmation that nukes had been used; however, I do recall him making the point that those who didn't need to know, weren't allowed to know -- hmm, no surprise there.
Anyway, here are the videos which present what's hidden behind Door #2. They're quite entertaining, actually. The thing that I like about them, is that the guy sounds very convinced himself. I'm paraphrasing here -- the guy says at one point that if things didn't come to pass the way that he's been told by the Andromeda Council, he would have some serious questions for them. Yea, I'd like to see the follow-up interview in a few weeks...becuase...that's how close we are to many of his predictions coming true. Really, I highly recommend these videos. The predictions are most original, wild, enormous, galactic even. All the usual players are in there -- Elenin, Nibiru -- and a few others we've never heard of. I doubt anyone else on the Internet -- or outside the Andromeda Council -- are making these fanciful predictions.
Part I - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4-D Earth
Part II - Andromeda Council: Updates on Comet Elenin, brown dwarf, Nibiru, earth changes & 4 D Earth
OFF TOPIC:
The Free energy prototype has been fully constructed. I'll be interviewing the team (Ralph Ring included) and shooting the tests in a matter of days.
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I suppose there's another thread on the forum somewhere that goes into the earthquake vs. underground explosion theory including the seismic data. I'm intrigued by that line of investigation.
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That's where that thread is: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post294433
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All I know about this stuff, is that I gave up being a spectator long ago.
No matter what news story I hear, or what given ruckus is splashing about --- I stay on target and I keep moving.
If anything is going to happen for the given individual and their concerns, they have to give up being a spectator, and get involved.
And that's about all there is to it.
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I wan't attacking either DW or BF when I started this thread, the fact is I simply don't know what to make of most of the interview. I'll try to check out some of the financial stuff if I get time over the next few days. Some of this should be verifiable and if there are moves afoot to end the cleptocracy of the elites and the bankers etc, bring it on I say.
90% of humanity scheduled for the knackers yard? 60,000 souls nergled deep underground? Well it doesn't seem very likely does it, but then lots of things don't seem likely until they happen and then you realise you were wrong. Come to think of it I certainly qualify as an 'eater' who doesn't do anything much that's useful so that's me bang to rights.
The One posted a Phil Schneider vid recently in which he describes deep underground and undersea bases and says they are all connected by tunnels, though as another poster mentioned in that case wouldn't other bases have been affected by a nuclear blast? So the bases may exist.
Bill and Kerry interviewed DW a while back and he came over pretty well to me. I don't doubt the sincerity of either of DW or BF and I doubt if Bill is attacking them either. If the material in the interview is 100% true it is completely earth shattering (no pun intended). If it isn't then one or both are 'credulous', or lying (I doubt that), or - dare I say it - delusional. Most of us don't go around saying crazy things and so it's hard to understand the mind of anyone who does. But the fact is that such people exist and I'm afraid you can't just believe everything someone says. That's not being a naysayer - you'd be a fool otherwise because not all the soothsayers say the same sooth and so some must be un-soothsayers (whether intentionally or not).
Btw - 60,000 people and maybe more is an awful lot of people. If you knew for certain that that number had died you'd be distraught wouldn't you? Maybe I missed it but that didn't come across to me.
Otherwise I'd like to believe that forces are at work which will shatter the existing 'paradigm' (hate that word), tell us the truth, release suppressed technololgy for the benefit of mankind. All of it (except the deaths). But I don't. I'm curious and don't dismiss any possibilty but I strongly suspect that we'll be here in January 2013 and nothing of any consequence will have happened, the bankers will still be in their ivory towers, the powerful elite will still be, well, the powerful elite, and no-one will be any wiser. I can still pray I'm wrong though!
Peace
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A horrible thought came to mind... disinfo can have many edges... one is to cover-up and make disappear, another is to ridicule, etc...
So, if someone wants some truth to be disbelieved; ridicule it as in the case of 911 and "conspiracy nutcases"... now it seems there is another system of ridiculing: Slip it to a well known disinfo agent that nobody in all seriousness and in their right mind would believe... like Sorcha Faal... and the truth gets dressed as an outrageous lie because of the source...:wacko2:
:thumb: Two thumbs up, Amzer Zo. :thumb:
You might also add Ben Fulford to that description.
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The one thing I like about Fullford is he talks about complexities which do after a time fit together like a massively complex jigsaw puzzle.
Some of the craziest stuff he says can make sense when put in the proper context of previously stated material.
One can argue for or against nukes blowing up underground and causing the two earth quakes in Virginia and Colorado.
My question is this for anyone who wants to answer.
Do you think the earthquakes were natural?
Or do you think the earthquakes were man made?
For what it's worth, I myself don't think the earth quakes were natural.
And for a little strange universal synchronicity, does anyone remember the television show "the event" where an artificial earthquake was used to rock DC by a cabal that wanted to send a message to the US Government?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YJGGUM8qC_c
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Same story being passed around. Everyone has an agenda. What I think is sort of funny is the planning of a DEFCON 1. Alright guys, on the 27th, were gonna go into DEFCON 1. Yes, I know, it's a military exercise in preparedness, and quite serious. DEFCON1. If America was attacked, even in the pseudo-secret military/government underground, and maybe most especially, wouldn't all Americans be entitled to have a need to know? I suppose not, not necessarily, no panic attacks and there would be panic. Why antisipate such a thing for any length of time?
Greybeard is right, there's so much disinfo being spread around, it's deafening. That in and of itself makes me leary. That is what was going on prior to 9-11-01. We need a rouge expert.
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Hi
Is this really proof though?
I know wikipedia is opensource & is not 100% truthful, but the below will give an insight & a helping hand to understand the mindset behind the story.
The paper behind the story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawa-i-Waqt
The owner behind the paper - Majid Nizami
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majid_Nizami
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If the Sorsha Fall / Benjamin Fulford / David Wilcock nuke scenario doesn't work for ya...then perhaps you might appreciate what's behind Door #2.
By the way, about David Wilcock...I've noticed that he's maintained that 'Management' won't allow nukes; and, yet...I have to be careful here; becuase, I don't want to mis-quote Mr. Wilcock...
Anyway, here are the videos which present what's hidden behind Door #2. They're quite entertaining, actually. The thing that I like about them, is that the guy sounds very convinced himself. I'm paraphrasing here -- the guy says at one point that if things didn't come to pass the way that he's been told by the Andromeda Council, he would have some serious questions for them. Yea, I'd like to see the follow-up interview in a few weeks...becuase...that's how close we are to many of his predictions coming true. Really, I highly recommend these videos. The predictions are most original, wild, enormous, galactic even. All the usual players are in there -- Elenin, Nibiru -- and a few others we've never heard of. I doubt anyone else on the Internet -- or outside the Andromeda Council -- are making these fanciful predictions.
Welcome ClandestineDisclosure! I can tell that you will do well on this forum. You are not the only one who utilizes sarcasm to get points across.
IMO, we are here to look behind as many doors as possible to check if the information behind each door adds up to a whole picture. That's essentially what we do here. Some doors are filled with quality sound information while others contain only snippets of info that we can use, and still other doors won't open at all.
David Wilcock's possible statement about "Management" not allowing nukes, is true. However, what I have learned about this statement from several additional sources, is that Management will not allow nukes or nuclear testing that disturbs and destroys and poisons our solar system and those civilizations that reside within. This is a galactic decision. Unfortunately, they Do allow small nukes that cause local damage and death.
Many of us read and listen to information that appears to be out of this world, mainly because it usually is. And, we have no way of proving or disproving what is read or heard. Predictions are not written in stone. Things change and hopefully we too, are changing for the better. We wait. We watch. We hear. Some predictions do indeed occur and others go by the wayside...simply because, things change.
