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I don't know if we posted it. Famous quote where Netanyahu simply asks Iran to stop attacking the country.
Today:
Putin denounces in a phone call with Trump the Israeli aggression on Iran: agencies
Trump: Russian president feels just as I do that the Iranian-Israeli war must end
Ahem.
Someone is spinning.
Tel Aviv, Mossad, and 8200 are evacuated and:
Israeli media: According to the Home Front Command, gatherings are prohibited, and there will be no activity at schools and workplaces
while:
Iran destroys 10 Israeli military aircrafts in 1 hour
Iran’s Navy stopped a British spy destroyer in the Sea of Oman that was intending to aid Israel in attacking Iran.
A British spy destroyer in the Sea of Oman was stopped by the Navy of the Iranian Army and forced to change its course.
The British destroyer, which had entered the northern Indian Ocean last night with the purpose of guiding Israeli missiles into Iranian territory, was identified in a timely manner by the intelligence systems of the Iranian Navy. Combat drones of the Navy issued warnings, preventing the destroyer from continuing its path toward the Persian Gulf.
The destroyer was forced to alter its course.
It looks to me like Haifa and Tel Aviv were basically shut down at a a snap of the fingers. Yes, some of their shots inflicted damage to Iran, but not enough to be of any particular concern. Qatar and MBS are not on the Israeli side in this. What does that mean. Where can settlers flee. Jordan. Possibly. That's about it.
Let's see. An 800-day payback for Gaza would be almost fair.
I can only encourage them to go after more of those planes. I think of them like birthday candles. That and their gas. You can kind of ignore the ammunition warehouses, since the stuff is no good without the airplane. You can easily get it to where HZB can march to Al Quds. I can't imagine that's not coming. They have been so nice lately. The air show simply makes it easy for Yemeni missiles to slip in. But I don't think the Lebanese have anything they can use at long range. They have to deploy in the area where Israel has been meddling. Not that the actual Lebanese Army was helpful there. I don't recall them doing anything.
This can, indeed, be over rather quickly if it is relentless.
15th June 2025 06:52
Tintin
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The Iranian missiles targeted the strategic Weizmann Institute, causing major damage and a fire in its lab building in Rehovot, Central Israel.
The center supports the Israeli army with AI, drone guidance, advanced weapons, cyber defense, and nuclear tech. The Weizmann Institute works closely with Elbit Systems to develop bio-inspired military materials and maintains ties with defense firms like Israel Aerospace Industries.
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And footage from inside showing Tehran daily life in May of this year: it doesn't reflect much of the propaganda we've been hearing about, does it?
A little more from Tehran, filmed at some point in time, but pretty recently I'd imagine:
Asking people out for coffee in Tehran, Iran 😁
The side of Iran you won't see in the Western media. Oppressive regime, free the people of Iran, sound familiar? It's the same bull**** they pump out about China, which is completely false.
15th June 2025 06:58
jaybee
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I like to fit world events into what we know about the on going agenda of NWO Globalists to take over the Planet and all the resources and install an Authoritarian Digital Dictatorship....
It suits 'them' to keep things labelled as countries - to keep the general public in the dark - but it looks like the whole Zionist / Netanyahu / Israel 'project' to attack and regime change Iran - is a big Globalist move - same as 'they' want to take control of Russia - they want to take control of Iran -
I can only speculate (from afar) that the broad intention is to keep control of the People's of the Middle East through the religion of Islam - for the One World Government - but they have chosen to prioritise the Sunnis - so the Shi'ites are an unwanted complication...? and to take the huge land mass and natural resources of Iran is the 'mission' -
Trump is at a crossroads in his presidency and caught between a rock and a hard place - he's being pulled by the Globalist infiltrated military one way..... and his MAGA base the other way - influential voices like Tucker Carlson are asking 'how does making war with Iran benefit America...?'
Trump won't want to be duped by the Globalists and needs to keep a cool, independent head and close advisors need to make sure he keeps his focus on Peace .....
IMO
15th June 2025 09:29
ThePythonicCow
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Perhaps that is one of the reasons that Q said that Israel had to be saved for last ... Trump would have to sacrifice, or be forced to sacrifice, the most powerful piece he controls on the board, himself, in order to de-materialize a key project of the Rothschild's for the 100+ years, Zionist Israel.
Over on another thread, in the context of a reposted video of an old report by Bill on the globalist timeline reported to him back in 2010, I posted a major elaboration of my considerations, comparing:
what was reported to Bill Ryan back then, to
what has actually happened so far and what I speculate might be coming.
This involves a major, but not yet so obvious, shift in events, taking control of the timeline from the Satanic globalists and into the hands of those supporting human freedom, guided by a higher spiritual order:
Just listening to coverage on TV but apart from opinion there isn't much in the way of facts like, for instance, whether Keir Starmer took the decision without putting it to the vote, you know, things like that ! :\
15th June 2025 10:00
grapevine
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Rachel Reeves 'not ruling out' helping Israel https://youtube.com/watch?v=q0-UYLx4Ix0 18:00
A little more information from Rachel Reeves in her interview with Trevor Phillips - first 6.29 miutes only
15th June 2025 13:05
pounamuknight
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Even though Team Trump's claiming they knew nothing about Israel's attack on Iran, there's counterevidence
There's the historical 2009 Brooking's Institute's Which Path To Persia? within chapter 5: LEAVE IT TO BIBI that road-maps an Israeli attack on Iran, where the US hides behind veil of non-culpability
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A very strong interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor, which finished streaming a couple of hours ago. It includes one of the more interesting discussions of the possible use by Israel of a nuclear weapon. Here's a small portion of the transcript, starting at 16:50:
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Col. Macgregor: I think what you might see in the future is as Israel weakens and is subject to more and more destructive impact from Iran, and as Iran's position in the international community grows stronger, that the the Israelis may well tell us: If we can't survive and you're not going to help us, we'll use a nuclear weapon. That could happen. We would not want that to happen, clearly. But that's something they could threaten us with.
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That could happen, especially as Israel's position weakens. Israel is in a terrible position right now. Israel can't easily replace its losses. And Israel is by comparison with Iran a postage stamp in its size and population.
I don't think Israel would be doing what it's doing right now if it wasn't reasonably confident that it has control of the White House and the Congress.
They think they've got control of President Trump, that when he's presented with this fait accompli, Israel is in a fight for its life, this is an existential fight for Israel, you have to come and help us — that he will do so. Perhaps he will. I don't know.
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A very strong interview with Col. Douglas Macgregor, which finished streaming a couple of hours ago. It includes one of the more interesting discussions of the possible use by Israel of a nuclear weapon. Here's a small portion of the transcript, starting at 16:50:
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Col. Macgregor: I think what you might see in the future is as Israel weakens and is subject to more and more destructive impact from Iran, and as Iran's position in the international community grows stronger, that the the Israelis may well tell us: If we can't survive and you're not going to help us, we'll use a nuclear weapon. That could happen. We would not want that to happen, clearly. But that's something they could threaten us with.
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That could happen, especially as Israel's position weakens. Israel is in a terrible position right now. Israel can't easily replace its losses. And Israel is by comparison with Iran a postage stamp in its size and population.
I don't think Israel would be doing what it's doing right now if it wasn't reasonably confident that it has control of the White House and the Congress.
They think they've got control of President Trump, that when he's presented with this fait accompli, Israel is in a fight for its life, this is an existential fight for Israel, you have to come and help us — that he will do so. Perhaps he will. I don't know.
Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor
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13h In the last 72 hours, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Iran when negotiations between Washington and Tehran were still ongoing.
Iran was caught off-guard. But Iran recovered more quickly from its Pearl Harbor moment than Israel expected.
In less than 18 hours after Israel’s surprise attack, Iran responded firing hundreds of ballistic missiles including hypersonic missiles into central Tel Aviv and across Israel.
Meanwhile, Israel's Iron Dome failed. Israeli intelligence failed. Now Netanyahu is pleading with Washington to intervene with American Military Power to rescue Israel from certain defeat; a defeat Netanyahu crafted with encouragement from Washington.
At the same time, Russia, China, Pakistan and most of the Muslim World are rallying to Iran’s defense.
Supplies, equipment and technical assistance are pouring into Iran.
It’s time for a reality check:
Washington burned through $12 trillion in the Middle East since 2003. Result? 7,000 dead Americans. 50,000 wounded, open borders and 100,000 Americans dying yearly from Fentanyl poisoning.
Today, the United States is $37 trillion in debt, a sum that does not include so-called “agency debt.” 77 million Americans voted for President Trump because he promised to end the overseas conflicts and halt the march to WW3.
Trump’s mandate is unchanged: Secure America’s borders, ports and coastal waters. Deport illegal aliens, crush the criminals r-ping and murdering Americans. Restore the rule of law. But not one more drop of American blood for foreign wars.
One Israeli strike on Kharg Island—where 90% of Iran's oil exports flow—or Bandar Abbas terminals, and Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz. That's 20% of global oil supply.
That means disrupted supply chains and runaway inflation. Gas hits $7/gallon overnight. Every working family crushed. Truckers can't deliver food. Economy crashes. For what? So Israel that started this insane war can drag Americans into a wider regional conflict with the potential for nuclear war?
We have 40,000 troops in UAE, Qatar, across the Persian Gulf. They are sitting ducks. Iranian Shahed-136 Drones cost $20,000 each. American Patriot Missiles cost $4 million per interceptor.
Do the math. We will run through our inventory of missiles and go broke while Americans come home in boxes.
The Middle East is on the brink. Here's what Washington must do to defuse conflict:
1. Ask for an Emergency UN Security Council meeting. Ask for an Immediate ceasefire making it clear that Washington opposes the destruction of Iran, Israel and any other state in the Middle East.
2. Demand that Israel stop the killing of Palestinians in Gaza and withdraw its forces from Gaza and the West Bank.
3. Suspend all military aid to Israel until Israel agrees to remove its troops from Gaza and permit humanitarian assistance to reach the people of Gaza.
4. Propose the commitment of Armed Forces from non-aligned nations to police Gaza and the West Bank. 5. Propose that the United States, Russia, China, India and Brazil convene a peace conference to arbitrate the dispute between Israel, Iran and Israel’s neighbors.
I led American Soldiers under fire into action. I've seen plenty of flag-draped coffins. I don’t want to see any more. Washington’s warmongers had 22 years. They failed. They lied.
They profited while America bled. Time's up.
America First means AMERICA FIRST. Not Israel first. Not Ukraine first. Not NATO first. AMERICA FIRST.
Douglas Macgregor
@DougAMacgregor
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I'll be joining @MarioNawfal at 9 am est. to discuss a clear pathway to ending the Israeli conflict.
15th June 2025 17:00
Ravenlocke
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An Israeli missile strike on Sunday morning on a racing horse breeding center in Kermanshah's Olympic Village killed about 50 horses.
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I find it difficult to trust these 'insiders' and their claims. They just don't stack with reality.
Assad has ran away and Russia wasn't able to prop him up.
Most of Irans leadership have been killed.
Most of Hamas' leadership has been killed.
Hezbollah couldn't even give a response to the recent Israel strikes.
The Houthis were only able to fire one missile this time, and that killed 3 Palestinians instead.
Putin was meant to complete his 'special operation' in weeks. Now he's using North Korean soldiers.
China have capitulated on the tariffs.
I'm sure there's more but I've made my point.
Israel seems to be winning at every turn.
Edit: I also forgot the whole "Crossing the Rubicon" nonsense in 2020/2021.
15th June 2025 17:30
shaberon
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I've seen plenty of flag-draped coffins. I don’t want to see any more. Washington’s warmongers had 22 years. They failed. They lied.
What is 22 years? They have been doing this since 1860.
One needs to re-trace the "steps" of Neo-con hegemony back through everything. Of course no one was directly planning on overthrowing Persia in 1860; that's just "growth".
Just look at what these "Americans" did to Atlanta; it's not much different from Gaza.
The rhetoric about "Iranian nuclear bombs" is risable.
The mere hint of British ships going in shows a rift in that country between those MPs who must have recently started supporting "denial" options of Zion, versus some white-knuckled militarized sect that commits compulsive violence.
I haven't noticed new damages. Iran probably has the weakness of not the greatest long-range detection, so the ZOF is basically at the border before anyone reacts. It was bad, but, Iran has a tremendous capacity to self-restore, plus, of course, they will get lots of international assistance.
It doesn't seem like a good time to calm down, but, rather to eliminate that pesky air force. I don't know if that will happen; just that the past couple of days were a good start.
15th June 2025 17:32
Ravenlocke
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🇺🇸🇮🇱⚔️🇮🇷 BREAKING: Trump told ABC News that U.S. involvement in a war with Iran is possible.
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🇬🇧🚨🇮🇳A British F‑35B Lightning II made an emergency landing at an airport in India, reportedly after running critically low on fuel, following the official mission to help counter an Iranian air attack on Israel
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🇮🇱⚔️🇮🇷 Like Ukraine in Russia: Mossad Pre-Positioned Drones for Sabotage Ahead of Tehran Strikes - Washington Post
According to The Washington Post, the June 13 Israeli airstrikes on Iranian targets were preceded by a months-long covert operation by Mossad aimed at disabling Iran’s air defense and missile systems from within.
Israeli operatives, working inside Iran, smuggled in hundreds of explosive-laden quadcopters and drone-launched munitions—hidden in suitcases, trucks, and shipping containers. These weapons were assembled on the ground by small cells positioned near key Iranian military infrastructure.
As Israeli F-35s launched their attack on Iranian nuclear sites and command structures, these sabotage teams struck simultaneously: some neutralized air defense systems, while others targeted missile launchers as they emerged from shelters. According to the report, this internal sabotage significantly limited Iran’s ability to respond.
One source claimed that dozens of Iranian missiles were destroyed on the ground in the first hours of the assault.
The preparations reportedly took years. Mossad had identified the locations of ready-to-launch missiles but needed a way to strike them without relying on long-range assets. Using commercial shipping routes—and often unwitting partners—Israel brought in the necessary equipment. The drones were assembled in Iran and distributed to covert teams, whose leaders had been trained in third countries. These teams watched for missile movements and struck before launch setups were completed.
Sources also revealed that Mossad exploited a key Iranian weakness: Iran had four times more missiles than transport vehicles. Disabling dozens of these trucks crippled Iran’s ability to launch a coordinated response.
The Washington Post notes the operation bore striking resemblance to Ukraine’s tactic used in Russia on June 1, where drones were hidden inside container roofs and deployed against Russian airbases.
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I'm sure there's more but I've made my point.
Yes, that Hasbara thinks anyone is paying attention.
15th June 2025 18:02
Bill Ryan
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I find it difficult to trust these 'insiders' and their claims. They just don't stack with reality.
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I'm sure there's more but I've made my point.
Here's another 'claim'. :)
The transcript of the very start of Alexander Mercouris' video update for today:
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Good day. Today is Sunday 15th June 2025, and I think it's probably fair to say that there are now the first hints and indications that even in the west people are now starting to worry that the conflict between Israel and Iran is not going in the way that perhaps some expected.
Iran has been far from broken by the Israeli attacks, the Iranian nuclear facilities are in the main fundamentally undamaged, and Iran's missile strikes on Israel, which continued yesterday for a second night, and apparently even are now starting to take place during the day, suggest that Iran is not just hitting back but is indeed hitting back successfully.
I say that because despite all of the talk and all of the claims and all of the boasts about the success the the quality of Israel's air defenses, its Patriot missile systems, its Iron Dome system, its David's Sling system, we're now getting more and more evidence that Iranian missiles are successfully penetrating into Israel and are causing damage.
(I'm sure there's more but I've made my point! :P)
Iran Strikes Continue, Israel's Plan & AD Falter, asks US Join War; Putin Slams Trump in Angry Call
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The thought of the Israelis using nuclear weapons against Iran is a conspicuous misalignment of any possible reality. Also, quite a bit of info in some of the videos posted is simply inaccurate; for instance, claiming the Japanese were on the brink of surrender just before the atomic bombs fell is a stark misrepresentation of the historical record and an obvious effort at historical revisionism. Also, while Israel's operation targets Iran specifically, it doesn't amount to the United States unleashing a broad-spectrum attack on all BRIC nations.
There are many other examples, but my point is that it's hard to divine the truth when some of the expert commentators' credibility is questionable.
15th June 2025 18:55
Ravenlocke
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🇷🇺 Sergey Glazyev unmasks the terminal madness infecting US foreign policy—a death cult masquerading as strategy, authored by the cold hand of Zbigniew Brzezinski.
“Washington continues to implement Brzezinski’s suicidal strategy, which consists of five stages: the seizure of Ukraine, the separation of Europe from Russia, the subjugation of Russia, the destruction of Iran, and the isolation of China. Having stumbled on the third stage, they have now begun the fourth.”
Five acts in a tragedy of empire:
Seize Ukraine — Accomplished at gunpoint, at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, reducing a sovereign nation to a NATO buffer zone.
Cut Europe off from Russia — Achieved through blackmail and sabotage, transforming Europe into a deindustrialized satellite orbiting Washington.
Crush Russia — Attempted and failed. Instead of collapse, Russia rearmed, recalibrated, and realigned the global balance.
Destroy Iran — Now in motion. Assassinations, sanctions, and the looming threat of open war—all signs of imperial desperation.
Encircle China — The final delusion: to isolate a civilization of 1.4 billion people with aircraft carriers and empty threats.
Having shattered its teeth on Moscow, the empire now turns its fury on Tehran. This is not strategy—it is imperial nihilism armed with nuclear weapons.
Glazyev isn’t speculating—he’s warning. The world must wake up. The American empire is not stabilizing the world. It is setting it on fire.
Iranian Armed Forces has issued a stern warning to Israeli settlers, advising them to leave the occupied territories as it's the sole way they can save their lives.
The Israeli regime's miscalculation has left no choice but for a crushing, instructive, and regretful response to that criminal regime by the heroic armed forces of Islamic Iran, a spokesman for the Iranian Armed Forces said.
We can mull that over while taking in today's damage report. Multiple targets and Ben Gurion. The statement carries the connotation it isn't over.