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  If Iran can arrest (and most likely execute) 700 people almost immediately after the war, why couldn't they arrest even 1 before the war started?  This story does not make any sense unless it is an effort to intimidate the population. 
Also, if 700 Iranian citizens were willing to work for the Israelis, it tells me that there is a deep dissatisfaction with the Ayatollah. How many defectors do they have, 10,000, 20,000 or more? This story is a clear and strong indication that civil unrest is simmering just below the surface; it is only a matter of time before it erupts.  
By all accounts, Iran is the world’s second-most prolific executioner after China, according to several human rights groups, including Amnesty International. Arresting and executing such a high number of people is the ultimate way to control the population.
	
 
	
	
	
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		In the 1930s, the Nazi regime and some Zionist organizations had limited and controversial interactions. Despite Nazi antisemitism, both parties had overlapping interests: the Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany, while Zionists aimed to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. This led to the 1933 Haavara Agreement, allowing German Jews to emigrate to Palestine with a portion of their wealth. 
However, this pragmatic cooperation was short-lived. As Nazi racial policies radicalized, any notion of "negotiation" faded. Some fringe Zionist groups, like Lehi (Stern Gang), controversially sought contact with Axis powers during World War II, but these overtures were rejected. Ultimately, any early cooperation was driven by desperation, not shared ideology, and ended with the horrors of mass extermination...
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The Bizarre Relations Between the Nazis and the Zionists
	 
 
	
	
	
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		Same false reasoning for going into Iraq to save the Iraqis from the evil cartoon villain, Saddam Hussein.
 It was all a pretext to exert control and dominance in the region for oil and at the behest of Netanyahu. The US utterly destroyed that country, along with other countries.-- Libya, Syria, etc... Millions dead. And guess which country sent not one soldier into the fight? 
Anyone who buys the load of codswallup about regime change required to liberate Iranians is naive.
There are still loyalists to the shah in Iran. You want to talk about high numbers of executed and tortured? The Shah had most dictators beat.
There ARE a lot of spies living in Iran.
	 
 
	
	
	
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			The latest assault by Israel on Gaza has seen at least 80 people killed in airstrikes as Israel stepped up its military campaign in one of the most lethal 24-hour periods since the ceasefire ended in March. 
Israel had warned people to evacuate areas in North Gaza, Gaza City and Deir el-Balah. 
They were urged to head south but 80 per cent of the strip is now an Israeli-militarized zone or under evacuation orders with new orders in place now for Khan Younis and Rafah.
At least 20 people were killed this afternoon in an Israeli strike on a beachfront Al-Baqa Cafe in Gaza City. 
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Gaza: At least 80 killed in strikes as Israel warns people to evacuate north
Ryan and 
Dave are joined by 
Amir Tibon to discuss reports of Gaza aid site massacres....
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KILLING FIELDS: Dave Smith, Israeli Journo On Gaza Aid Site Massacres
 
			
		
	 
  Thank you Bojancan. 
However, after listening to 2/3rds of the Sales Quarter Results managerial meeting about “How effectively can we kill Gaza aid seekers while maintaining our policy of extolling the Humanity of our Soldiers”, I broke it off. Especially with the glib and slick “Ha‘Aretz” (The Soil, der Boden) journalism impersonator.
Listening to this – as, tragically, even listening to non-antisemitic and non-zionist self-identifying Jews these days – has begun to destroy my moral sense. 
I prefer to drink poison pure than after watching a commercial calling it lemonade.
	 
 
	
	
	
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If Iran can arrest (and most likely execute) 700 people almost immediately after the war, why couldn't they arrest even 1 before the war started?  This story does not make any sense unless it is an effort to intimidate the population. 
Also, if 700 Iranian citizens were willing to work for the Israelis, it tells me that there is a deep dissatisfaction with the Ayatollah. How many defectors do they have, 10,000, 20,000 or more? This story is a clear and strong indication that civil unrest is simmering just below the surface; it is only a matter of time before it erupts.  
By all accounts, Iran is the world’s second-most prolific executioner after China, according to several human rights groups, including Amnesty International. Arresting and executing such a high number of people is the ultimate way to control the population.
			
		
	 
  Thank you, rgray222.
Who do you mean by “the Ayatollah”?
	 
 
	
	
	
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		Must watch.  Jeffrey Sach's strongest condemnation of the USA-Israel war of attrition against Iran.
Prof. Jeffrey Sachs : US/Israeli Plot vs Iran!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S-RoCoNkbBk
	 
 
	
	
	
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			Same false reasoning for going into Iraq to save the Iraqis from the evil cartoon villain, Saddam Hussein.
 It was all a pretext to exert control and dominance in the region for oil and at the behest of Netanyahu. The US utterly destroyed that country, along with other countries.-- Libya, Syria, etc... Millions dead. And guess which country sent not one soldier into the fight? 
Anyone who buys the load of codswallup about regime change required to liberate Iranians is naive.
There are still loyalists to the shah in Iran. You want to talk about high numbers of executed and tortured? The Shah had most dictators beat.
There ARE a lot of spies living in Iran.
			
		
	 
  If Aayan Hirsi Ali, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, Gad Saad, and many other notables are naive, serve me up a platter of codswallop any day.
	 
 
	
	
	
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		Iran-Israel round 2; Diplomacy and war preparations
https://youtube.com/watch?v=V8cwlVAHio0 (36:47)
Latest from The Duran about the Middle East. I've noticed in the last week or so that their discussions are now based on conjecture rather than actual contact, and suspect this is to do with the blanket media news black-out.  Still worth a listen although not to be taken verbatim, and this probably goes across the board with all our regular sources.
My view: The jury's still out as to whether Iran will create their own nuclear bomb but if Russia, China and other nuclear powers are behind them - and they really should be if only to  keep BRICS intact - I can't see why the fuss.  Of course if Donald Trump was to bite the bullet and apply to join BRICS and become an equal partner, then the building tsunami would just evaporate.  But this isn't going to happen because of (a) Donal Trump's ego and MAGA means to stay No.1 and (b) the neocons would probably assassinate him.  But really, even though this isn't the time or place to air such a view, it would be a great solution and fair step forward for all the people in the world to start living as equals.
In the meantime, the potential for the sthtf still stands :/.
	 
 
	
	
	
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		 Iran Says NO As US Seeks Nuclear Talks Restart,
      Demands Guarantees;
      West Alarmed By Russian Advance
Iran Says NO As US Seeks Nuclear Talks Restart, Demands Guarantees; West Alarmed By Russian Advance
Topic 1595
0:00 - Introduction to current US-Iran relations
0:30 - Discussion on the urgency of US negotiations with Iran
2:15 - Analysis of Trump's nuclear deal strategy with Iran
4:07 - Overview of the Abraham Accords and their implications for Iran
5:25 - Trump's push for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas
6:12 - Iran's stance on uranium enrichment and negotiations
8:40 - Iranian Foreign Minister's response to US military actions
12:45 - Implications of the 12-day war on US-Iran negotiations
14:10 - Iran's conditions for resuming negotiations with the US
19:10 - The need for US guarantees to Iran regarding military attacks
22:00 - Analysis of US and Israeli military strategies against Iran
27:00 - Overview of Iran's nuclear capabilities and potential future actions
33:00 - Discussion on Iran's military procurement strategies
47:30 - Conclusion and summary of the US-Iran negotiation landscape
	 
 
	
	
	
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		So many analyses and reporting from well known analysts to us ... some are repetitions some not... here is the lates Macgregor with Diesen... two hours ago..
Here and there some little new facts in those interviews...
Glenn Diesen
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Douglas Macgregor: America’s New Long War
Douglas Macgregor is a retired Colonel and former advisor to the Secretary of Defense. Col. Macgregor argues that Trump has started a war he will not be able to finish soon, as the ceasefire is temporary and fake.
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Speaking at the panel organised by the International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) “Genocide in Gaza, War on Iran: What’s Next for Palestine?”, Tayab Ali, director of the ICJP, stated that Western countries are “selectively enforcing” international law, particularly regarding Israel’s actions in Gaza, which he described as “clear genocide.”
Middle East Eye
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Tayab Ali: ‘Palestine has become the testing ground for global impunity’
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Interesting...
Declassified UK
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How the Israel lobby got Keir Starmer to ban Palestine Action
As Palestine Action ask the courts to stop them being banned as a terror organisation, we look at the pro-Israel groups that have been lobbying the government to proscribe them.
Britain’s home secretary Yvette Cooper will ask MPs this week to decide whether to ban Palestine Action alongside two far-right organisations, one of which is called the Maniac Murder Cult. 
The draconian move comes after Palestine Action broke into RAF Brize Norton airbase and damaged a military plane with red paint. Those two activists, armed with little more than red paint and e-scooters, were able to breach the security of Britain's biggest airbase - causing the government serious embarrassment on the world stage.
Read more https://www.declassifieduk.org/uk-wit...
	 
 
	
	
	
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		Another excellent report from Kit Klarenberg here. Remember, all roads lead to somewhere in the United Kingdom - mostly, all else is often a decoy:
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Spying on Iran: How MI6 infiltrated the IAEA
Author: Kit Klarenberg
Date: July 1, 2025
Source: The Grayzone
Leaked confidential files indicate the International Atomic Energy Agency was infiltrated by a veteran British spy who has claimed credit for sanctions on Iran. The documents lend weight to the Islamic Republic’s accusation that the nuclear watchdog secretly colluded with its enemies.
A notorious British MI6 agent infiltrated the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on London’s behalf, according to leaked documents reviewed by The Grayzone. The agent, Nicholas Langman, is a veteran intelligence operative who claims credit for helping engineer the West’s economic war on Iran.
Langman’s identity first surfaced in journalistic accounts of his role in deflecting accusations that British intelligence played a role in the death of Princess Diana. He was later accused by Greek authorities of overseeing the abduction and torture of Pakistani migrants in Athens.
In both cases, UK authorities issued censorship orders forbidding the press from publishing his name. But Greek media, which was under no such obligation, confirmed that Langman was one of the MI6 assets withdrawn from Britain’s embassy in Athens.
The Grayzone discovered the résumé of the journeyman British operative in a trove of leaked papers detailing the activities of Torchlight, a prolific British intelligence cutout. The bio of the longtime MI6 officer reveals he “led large, inter-agency teams to identify and defeat the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons technology, including by innovative technical means and sanctions.” 
In particular, the MI6 agent says he “worked to prevent WMD proliferation through… support for the [IAEA] and Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons [OPCW] and through high level international partnerships.”
Langman’s CV credits him with playing a major role in organizing the sanctions regime on Iran by “[building] highly effective and mutually supportive relations across government and with senior US, European, Middle and Far Eastern colleagues for strategy” between 2010 and 2012. He boasts in his bio that this achievement “enabled [the] major diplomatic success of [the] Iranian nuclear and sanctions agreement.” 
The influence Langman claimed to have exerted on the IAEA adds weight to Iranian allegations that the international nuclear regulation body colluded with the West and Israel to undermine its sovereignty. The Iranian government has alleged that the IAEA supplied the identities of its top nuclear scientists to Israeli intelligence, enabling their assassinations, and provided critical intelligence to the US and Israel on the nuclear facilities they bombed during their military assault this June.
This June 12, under the direction of its Secretary General Rafael Grossi, the IAEA issued a clearly politicized report recycling questionable past allegations to accuse Iran of violating the Non-Proliferation Treaty. The next day, Israel attacked the country, assassinating nine nuclear scientists as well as numerous top military officials and hundreds of civilians. 
Iranian former Vice President for Strategic Affairs Javad Zarif has since called for the IAEA’s Grossi to be sacked, accusing him of having “abetted the slaughter of innocents in the country.” This June 28, the Iranian government broke ties with the IAEA, refusing to allow its inspectors into the country. 
While Iranian officials may have had no idea about the involvement of a shadowy figure like Langman in IAEA business, it would likely come as little surprise to Tehran that the supposedly multilateral agency had been compromised by a Western intelligence agency.
https://i0.wp.com/thegrayzone.com/wp...6%2C1536&ssl=1
Langman’s name placed under official UK censorship order
In 2016, Langman was named a Companion of the Order of St Michael and St George, the same title bestowed on fictional British spy James Bond. By that point, the supposed secret agent held the dubious distinction of being publicly ‘burned’ as an MI6 operative on two separate occasions.
First, in 2001, journalist Stephen Dorril revealed that Langman had arrived in Paris weeks prior to Princess Diana’s fatal car crash in the city on August 31 1997, and was subsequently charged with conducting “information operations” to deflect widespread public speculation British intelligence was responsible for her death. 
Then, in 2005, he was formally accused by Greek authorities of complicity in the abduction and torture of 28 Pakistanis in Athens. The Pakistanis, all migrant workers, were suspected of having had contact with individuals accused of perpetrating the 7/7 bombings in London, July 2005. 
Brutally beaten and threatened with guns in their mouths, the victims “were convinced their interrogators were British.” When Greek media named Langman as the MI6 operative who oversaw the migrants’ torture, British news outlets universally complied with a government D-notice – an official censorship order – and kept his identity under wraps when reporting on the scandal.
London vehemently denied any British involvement in torturing the migrants, with then-Foreign Secretary Jack Straw dismissing the charge as “utter nonsense.” In January 2006 though, London admitted MI6 officers were indeed present during the Pakistanis’ torture, although officials insisted the operatives played no active part in their arrests, questioning or abuse. 
Following his withdrawal from Athens, Langman returned to London to head the UK Foreign Office’s Iran Department, a shift which highlights his importance to MI6 and suggests the British government had no qualms about his allegedly brutal evidence gathering methods.
Britain’s Foreign Office collaborates closely with MI6, whose agents use it as cover just as the CIA does with State Department diplomatic postings.
MI6’s man on Iran takes credit for “maximum pressure” strategy
While leading the Foreign Office’s Iran Department from 2006 – 2008, Langman oversaw a team seeking to “develop understanding” of the Iranian government’s “nuclear program.” 
It’s unclear exactly what that “understanding” entailed. But the document makes clear that Langman then “generated confidence” in that assessment among “European, US and Middle Eastern agencies” in order to “delay programme [sic] and pressurise Iran to negotiate.” The reference to “Middle Eastern agencies” strongly implied MI6 cooperation with Israel’s Mossad intelligence service.
In April 2006, Tehran announced it had successfully enriched uranium for the first time, although officials denied any intention to do so for military purposes. This development may have triggered Langman’s intervention.
The Islamic Republic has rejected any suggestion it harbors ambitions to possess nuclear weapons. Its denials were corroborated by a November 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate expressing “high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted” any and all research into nuclear weapons. This assessment remained unchanged for several years, and was reportedly shared by the Mossad, despite Benjamin Netanyhau’s constant declarations that Iran was on the brink of developing a nuclear weapon.
Langman’s IAEA support work overlaps with Iran sanctions blitz
International governmental attitudes towards Iran changed abruptly between 2010 and ‘12. During this period, Western states and intergovernmental institutions initiated an array of harshly punitive measures against the country, while Israel ramped up its deadly covert operations against Iran’s nuclear scientists. 
This period precisely overlapped with Langman’s tenure at the Counter-Proliferation Centre of the UK Foreign Office. His bio implies he used this position to influence the IAEA and other UN-affiliated organizations to foment a campaign of global hostility towards Iran.
In June 2010, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1929, which froze the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps’ assets, and banned overseas financial institutions from opening offices in Tehran. A month later, the Obama administration adopted the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act. This set off a global chain of copycat sanctions by Washington’s vassals, who often imposed even more stringent measures than those levied by the UN and US. 
In March 2012, the EU voted unanimously to cut Iranian banks out of the SWIFT international banking network. That October, the bloc imposed the harshest sanctions to date, restricting trade, financial services, energy and technology, along with bans on the provision of insurance to Iranian companies by European firms. 
BBC reporting on the sanctions acknowledged European officials merely suspected Tehran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, but lacked concrete proof. And behind the scenes, the MI6 operative Langman was claiming credit for helping legitimize the allegations against Iran.
Nuclear agreement lays foundations for war
Following the Western-led campaign isolation of Iran from 2010 – 2012, over its purported nuclear weapon program, the Obama administration negotiated a July 2015 agreement known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). Under the JCPOA’s terms, the Islamic Republic agreed to limit its nuclear research activities in return for sanctions relief. In the years that followed, the IAEA was granted virtually unlimited access to Tehran’s nuclear complexes, ostensibly to ensure the facilities were not used to develop nuclear weapons. 
Along the way, IAEA inspectors collected vast amounts of information on the sites, including surveillance camera photos, measurement data, and documents. The Iranian government has since accused the Agency of furnishing the top secret profiles of its nuclear scientists to Israel. These include the godfather of Iran’s nuclear program, Mohsen Fakrizadeh, who was first publicly named in a menacing 2019 powerpoint presentation by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The following year, the Mossad assassinated Fakrizadeh in broad daylight with a remote-controlled machine gun. 
Internal IAEA documents leaked this June indicated that IAEA Secretary General Rafael Grossi has enjoyed a much closer relationship with Israeli officials than was previously known, and suggested he leveraged his cozy ties with Tel Aviv to secure his current position. 
During a June 24 interview with Fox News’ war-crazed anchor Martha MacCallum, Grossi did not deny making the inflammatory claim that “900 pounds of potentially enriched uranium was taken to an ancient site near Isfahan.” Instead the IAEA director asserted, “We do not have any information on the whereabouts of this material.”
Well before Grossi rose to the top of the IAEA with Western and Israeli backing, the agency appears to have been penetrated by a British intelligence agent who took responsibility in his bio for engineering the West’s economic attack on Iran.
The IAEA has not responded to an email from The Grayzone seeking clarification on its relationship with Langman and the MI6.
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The released documents via Press TV on Telegram previously shared:
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		Francesca Albanese's report which highlight the corporate profits gained from the actions of the genocide :facepalm:
From economy of occupation to economy of genocide
Report link (39 page PDF): https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/...-59-23-aev.pdf
Summary:
In the present report, the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the
Palestinian territories occupied since 1967 investigates the corporate machinery sustaining
the Israeli settler-colonial project of displacement and replacement of the Palestinians in the
occupied territory. While political leaders and Governments shirk their obligations, far too
many corporate entities have profited from the Israeli economy of illegal occupation,
apartheid and now genocide. The complicity exposed by the report is just the tip of the
iceberg; ending it will not happen without holding the private sector accountable, including
its executives. International law recognizes varying degrees of responsibility – each requiring
scrutiny and accountability, particularly in this case, where a people’s self-determination and
very existence are at stake. This is a necessary step to end the genocide and dismantle the
global system that has allowed it.
	 
 
	
	
	
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		The other people in Netanyahu's cabinet are even worse than him
"But they're not as good, they're not as tricky and wily and successful as he is"
George commenting on Netanyahu, perhaps following this:
Religious Zionism feared Netanyahu set to call elections in wake of US strike
Hours after the US attack on nuclear facilities in Iran, members of Smotrich's party feared that Netanyahu would call snap elections • In most polls, the party remains below the electoral threshold.
Hours after the American attack on nuclear facilities in Iran, members of the Religious Zionism Party feared that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would take advantage of the success and bring the elections forward, i24NEWS learned on Wednesday.
Last Sunday, less than 12 hours after the historic US attack on nuclear facilities, a Knesset (Israeli parliament) member from the Religious Zionism Party told i24NEWS in a closed conversation that he feared a scenario in which Netanyahu will exploit the success in Iran and move swiftly to bring forward elections. In the background is the grim state of Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich’s party in the polls, most of which show it failing to pass the electoral threshold.
On the night between Saturday and Sunday, US Air Force planes attacked Iranian nuclear facilities in Fordow, Isfahan, and Natanz. According to US President Donald Trump, the facilities were completely destroyed. Nine B-2 bombers dropped 12 bombs, each weighing 13 tons, on Fordow. Additionally, it was reported that two bombs were dropped on Natanz, and 30 Tomahawk missiles were fired at Natanz and Isfahan.
A few days before the Israeli campaign against Iran began, Smotrich approached the coalition parties regarding the draft law crisis and asked them not to go to elections. "I call on all my coalition partners," he said, "put your disagreements aside. Show responsibility. History will not forgive anyone who dismantles the government and drags the country into elections in the midst of a war, before the hostages have returned and before our objectives regarding Gaza and Iran have been fully achieved."
June 25, 2025 at 07:21 PM ■ latest revision June 25, 2025 at 07:24 PM
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israe...e-of-us-strike