I agree ET's will never interfere Bill, And i am pleased to see you say they can and do assist by supporting our efforts. Is supporting the same as intervening ???Quote:
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I agree ET's will never interfere Bill, And i am pleased to see you say they can and do assist by supporting our efforts. Is supporting the same as intervening ???Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
Supporting is completely different from interfering.Quote:
Posted by billyjiI agree ET's will never interfere Bill, And i am pleased to see you say they can and do assist by supporting our efforts. Is supporting the same as intervening ???Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
Here's just one example. The ETs cannot land and take over the White House or the UN (or blow up underground bases, for that matter).
But they can incarnate in human bodies -- and then follow all human protocols, continuing their mission on the human playing field. That way the rules of the game are not violated.
Some of you will resonate personally with this. Of course, you cannot remember... that's one of the human protocols. :)
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Posted by Bill RyanSupporting is completely different from interfering.Quote:
Posted by billyjiI agree ET's will never interfere Bill, And i am pleased to see you say they can and do assist by supporting our efforts. Is supporting the same as intervening ???Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
Here's just one example. The ETs cannot land and take over the White House or the UN (or blow up underground bases, for that matter).
But they can incarnate in human bodies -- and then follow all human protocols, continuing their mission on the human playing field. That way the rules of the game are not violated.
Some of you will resonate personally with this. Of course, you cannot remember... that's one of the human protocols. :)
Sorry Bill maybe i did not make my reply clear enough. Interfere / Intervene
The universal law, is that ET's are not allowed to Interfere,( although the ones that resonate at a lower vibration have interfered )
but my belief is that those that have the betterment of humanity and earth as their agenda can" Intervene" if given permission
The immediate threats before us are the wrecking of the global economy
How do you wreck what is already a disaster?
This is like going to the scene of a trainwreck and tossing around the debris and the bodies.
The global economy has already enslaved and ruined lives for hundreds of years. How can you wreck it any worse than it already is.
This economy has been circling the drain for years already.
What???????
Ok, this is it for me with the discord between anyone portraying knowledge or information about the current changing times.
Seriously, the founder of this sight doesn't "believe a word of it" -really?
Ok then, I disregard David Wilcock, Drunvalo Melchizedek and the rest and plan on rebuilding a planet in the dark after a solar storm takes down the energy grid.
Hmmmmm.....
This forum is full of garbage, negativity, lone wolf survivalist, mental prisoners, disinfo, fear porn what really is the point of it?
It really feels to me the there is an abandoning ship going here with the founder. At least on the titanic the captain and the band went down with the ship and didn't get in the life rafts and "take off" for safer ground.
I think somebody knows the where the most dangerous country to be in the world is, in the upcoming weeks and months. And her too.
This doesn't feel right at all!
For 5 or 6 years present all this whistleblower testimony and "out there" scenarios, and then basically backtrack running away from it all.
Hmmmmmmm......still doesn't feel right, something is "rotten in Denmark" as they say.
Yeah Right, generations to fix the "raped" Earth and to do so with a literally "retarded" civilization of people where only a small percentage are having a consciousness awakening.
Oh Goody, I can't wait, sounds like a mission.
Where do I begin?
The very complex, petro-based, economy that almost all of us in the "more advanced" economies depend on for our food, clothing, shelter, energy and communication is still functioning, and one way or another, is still providing most of us in these economies. There are still trucks on the road, current in the power lines, food on the shelves, gas at the pumps, cash at the ATM, ... That same economy still reaches out to all parts of this planet, the earth, air and waters, and to all who live on it, the plants, animals, fish, birds, and microbes ... with its frequently destructive tentacles. It is still destroying.Quote:
Posted by gooty64
My guess is that this economy does not collapse entirely into some apocalyptic scenario, but I do expectThe younger ones here may look back on this period, a half century later, and see that a low point was reached, and see human civilization becoming healthier in what is today still in our future. Let us work together, for that outcome.
- a major reset of the global monetary system, which has been US Dollar based since World War II,
- a new world currency system, supposedly based on a basket of commodities, but still controlled by the wealthiest, most powerful, families,
- some nasty events of economic depression and perhaps Middle East war to "set the stage" for this monetary reset,
- some major banks and Western nations to pass through some variation of bankruptcy,
- widespread imposition of "austerity" programs in Western nations that have not seen such since the Great Depression, and
- the average standard of living of Americans and some other Western nations to be reset, downward, substantially,
This lovely planet and the life teeming on it are counting on us.
Bill Ryan:
Okay ... we all have some overlapping yet different perceptions of "reality".Quote:
This may be unpopular, but I don't believe a word of it.
BR:
Sure ... without going into detail or "naming names" ... there seems to be a great deal of material presented by guests you and (sometimes) Kerry have vetted then interviewed you do not stand by.Quote:
Here are just a tiny number of examples, in no special order:
That is fine as you (or Kerry) never made a claim to "verifiable truth" regarding your interviews. There was implied legitimacy and that is what built Camelot. Is that not a fair assessment?
You have recently made some very open and honest statements regarding your readings from Carol the psychic brought to the world's attention by David Icke. That is great! Yet you freely admit your own initial scepticism. No need to mention other names.
I bring that up only to point out we all go through growth and changes in our perceptions. What may seem ludicrous today may morph into a hidden truth of tomorrow (or visa versa).
I will never say *anyone* is wrong even if I am in complete disagreement. You can go through all my posts. I appreciate all respectfully expressed posts.
BR:
Agreed ... and since we are not playing in a rigged game then perhaps there comes a time for a *balancing* of the imbalances that have been going on for many many years. Not talking saviours here ... rather a more *apparent* equitable influence from mostly unseen forces.Quote:
No easy way out folks. But as I've always said, if this were a rigged, fixed game, I'd not have incarnated here this lifetime.
BR:
As do I.Quote:
I remain optimistic.
Even if I appear to "question" your post ... I quite honestly most appreciate the posts (from anyone) which if well presented and respectful cause me to have an open minded examination of my own perception. What better function of a forum like this?
All that seriousness aside ... I simply won't easily surrender my biggest laugh of the day ... the space hippies
:lalala:
:hippie::mullet::hippie:
I submit for consideration ... "Where All Good Hippies Go When They Die"
Calz_Avaretard wrote:
Hi there - please do ask me some questions about the "great deal of material presented by guests you and (sometimes) Kerry have vetted then interviewed you do not stand by." I'd be as interested as others to know if that stands up. :)Quote:
Sure ... without going into detail or "naming names" ... there seems to be a great deal of material presented by guests you and (sometimes) Kerry have vetted then interviewed you do not stand by.
That is fine as you (or Kerry) never made a claim to "verifiable truth" regarding your interviews. There was implied legitimacy and that is what built Camelot. Is that not a fair assessment?
I think that I may be able to reassure you. This is really very important. Do ask anything you like. Be totally specific. Only specifics will be helpful.
Without knowing what you have in mind, I'd say that before Kerry and I (to a large extent) parted company at the end of 2009, I'd stand by about 85-90% of Camelot testimony. I believe I've stated those kinds of proportions before. Once Kerry started making her own decisions about who to report (or champion), that figure drops a little.
When I started working independently, the 85-90% figure still pretty much holds.
What has to be remembered is that some whistleblowers, experiencers, writers and researchers after the original interviews go to some places which I cannot always necessarily support. Those include Leo Zagami, David Wilcock, Ben Fulford, Dan Burisch, Richard Hoagland, Jake Simpson, Clif High, Charles, and Inelia. There may be one or two more, but that's just nine out of literally many dozens.
The degrees of change or deviation in their message (or its detail) vary across quite a large spectrum, from the minor to the quite major. In most of the above, the information in the initial interview(s) was pretty much authentic. It's an interesting phenomenon that after that, the quality of the testimony sometimes changes. Meanwhile, I could table a long list of witnesses whose testimony I stand by 100%.
All best wishes, Bill
Thanks for your reply ... so sorry time for bed.
Hold that thought :)
Bill,What kind of testimonies,or what type of whistleblower/interviewee would you be interested to interview today? in other words,what will make you tick /pull your camera and recorder and interview a person?
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Reliable personal testimony (off the top of my head - this list is almost certainly incomplete):
- Bill Hamilton
- Gary McKinnon
- Henry Deacon
- Clifford Stone
- Bob Dean
- Ralph Ring
- Dan Sherman
- ‘Mr X’, the ET archivist
- Duncan O’Finioan
- Dave Corso
- Jim Sparks
- Bill Holden
- George Green
- Luca Scantamburlo
- Miriam Delicado
- Bill Deagle
- Brian O’Leary
- The Norwegian Politician
- Jim Humble
- Paul LaViolette
- Peter Levenda
- Wade Frazier
- David Icke
- Jim Marrs
- Jordan Maxwell
- Joseph Farrell
- Erich von Däniken
- Klaus Dona
- Pete Peterson
- Ricardo Silva
- Jane Bürgermeister
- Richard Dolan
- Dane Tops
Hi, Limor!Quote:
Posted by Limor
Great question. I'd jump at the opportunity to interview a genuine whistleblower from HAARP (or FEMA, the National Weather Service, or NOAA)... or an insider solar scientist who might expand on what we might expect in 2013 or later.
My warmest personal wishes to you as always - Bill
Thanks for that list Bill. I still think of myself as a newbie and was totally down the channeling route until I came here (altho I still believe some to be helpful). Im going to check out everyone on that list as ive only investigated a couple of names there. Love Gary Mckinnon bless him.x
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And thankyou for your honesty
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Supporting is completely different from interfering.
Here's just one example. The ETs cannot land and take over the White House or the UN (or blow up underground bases, for that matter).
But they can incarnate in human bodies -- and then follow all human protocols, continuing their mission on the human playing field. That way the rules of the game are not violated.
Some of you will resonate personally with this. Of course, you cannot remember... that's one of the human protocols. :)[END OF BILL'S QUOTE]
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Would like to elaborate on this a little and of course this is all based on my perspective and experience: You can chose to believe or not.
ET's can reincarnate into human bodies, and many are walk-ins as well. But keep in mind because of the needs and desires of the human body, not all can rise above these desires once here. There was a great movie some time ago, German I believe, titled "Far Away So Close" and although they depicted other worldly spirits as angels, you will get the idea. Things that look easy when not in human form become far more complicated when in the body.
There are also many who are being influenced telepathically by ET's (I'm not referring to the channelers & am making no claim as to the authenticity of channelers). These are mostly average humans leading quiet lives, who are making changes sometimes small, sometimes big, in their communities. Some know and are aware from whom they are receiving, others are just following impulses transmitted. Usually these people are not seeking publicity.
I'm not sure I agree with Bill's statement - that they can not remember - I oscillate on this point. Although I do know that some have been shown who the walk-ins are.
How would this be classifed-interference or support?
As I understand it, what the ETs will do is stop us from completely destroying the Earth, because Gaia is a being with free will and she has chosen to survive.
Or, to be a bit less poetic, we can just postulate that the Earth is too great a resource, and the ETs will only allow a certain amount of destruction.
Then, presumably, whatever would be irreversible is not allowed.
The most significant question this Bob Marley song brings up:
"There is one question I'd really love to ask
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner,
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own beliefs?"
And something that David Wilcock has talked about which not many others have, which is that TPTW's agenda has been propagated over the ages, not just by fear, but by the threat of ruthless torture, beyond what we can imagine one human would ever subject another human to. So there is a need for a tremendous amount of forgiveness.
That's another reason why I feel that there is something to the reports from DW--he is not a coward, and not afraid to look at the darkest side of our history, or to ask the most difficult questions.
There are plenty of B.S.ers out there, feeding us lots of disinfo designed to mislead and keep us asleep.
And it may be that some of DW's sources are feeding him disinfo, but I still feel from a gut level that some very authentic info is coming through him.
Hurray for the day when it will all be clear!
And we can all get together and feel all right, in one Love, and one Heart...
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Posted by laughs-lasthmmm seam, you may be on to a RICH SEAM OF METAPHSYICAL GOLD there, keep scratching ;)Quote:
Posted by SEAM
ONE LOVE, BIG HUGZ and BIG QUESTIONS :jester:
It begins with self, If we wait for others to fulfill our expectations we will always be disappointed, It is not so much about recieving from others, but what we can give to others. A small percentage can make a difference.Quote:
Posted by gooty64
I'd like to thank Bill for giving us a list of the people he interviewed as being 100% reliable! I have one question to Bill: Have you done an interview with Gary McKinnon who you put in your list. If so where do we find this interview? I agree with Bill also as I declared in a few posts about DW statement. I wish.
Stan
Bill,
I must say you have indeed shown a different side of yourself recently. And yes, I'm all for change; if one is not willing to change then they are not even keeping up with status quo.
What disturbs me about this opinion of yours is that you have said you and David Wilcock are friends. Now given that I'm from the states perhaps I don't understand what a proper English gentleman is, and maybe you don't claim to be one. If so, forgive my presumption.
However, in my way of thinking one does not refer to what a friend has written from the desire to make a difference in the world, a world that is a better place for all, "I don't believe a word of it!" :confused:
Yes, your entitled to your opinion and beliefs, as we all are. But couldn't you have found a better way to express your disagreement...with your friend...in a public forum...for all to see?
Like you Bill I did the EST training (for me in 1975) and also the communications workshop, etc. So I understand I am responsible for my communication and my experience of what another communicates. All that said, what the heck is going on with you? Because of this past year and the things that have happened in your life do you now feel that it is necessary to take a stand, and in so doing, not consider your words and how they might be perceived? Or it that your intent? :(
I for one want this world to change, not in the next three generations, but now! :rant: I read what David had to say and yelled...please let this be true, over and over again! Can you know or say for sure that nothing David wrote is true? Can you say or know for sure that everything you write is? :ohwell:
My best to all. :wave::focus::tea:
He might have gotten some of those lyrics from Curtis Mayfield 's song PEOPLE GET READYQuote:
Posted by SEAM
People get ready
There's a train a-coming
You don't need no baggage
You just get on board
All you need is faith
To hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
You just thank the Lord
People get ready
For the train to Jordan
Picking up passengers
From coast to coast
Faith is the key
Open the doors and board them
There's room for all
among the loved the most
There ain't no room
for the hopeless sinner
Who would hurt all mankind just
To save his own
Have pity on those
whose chances are thinner
Cause there's no hiding place
From the Kingdom's Throne
So people get ready
for the train a-comin'
You don't need no baggage
you just get on board !
All you need is faith
to hear the diesels humming
Don't need no ticket
you just thank, you just thank the Lord
OOPS ! We may have wandered off topic....