A really well done and intelligent talk on the dangers of censorship.
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A really well done and intelligent talk on the dangers of censorship.
100% agreed. This is Richard Dolan absolutely at his strongest, clearest and most articulate. It may be the very best presentation of his I've heard.https://youtube.com/watch?v=9CE-G7M2rY0Quote:
Posted by Valerie Villars
Oh yeah? I really don't think so. Should stick to UFOs IMO.
My respect for Dolan has just plunged through the floor and I won’t be watching any more of his ‘shows’. Nice for him he got hitched recently (though the previous Mrs Dolan and any kids might not agree) but I don’t much care for the double act, it sometimes feels like being a fly on the wall to their private conversation.
The logical conclusion of what he is saying justifies any sort of lies, vilification, spreading of hatred, crazy theories and worse. We are not talking about rarefied academic debate here where the protagonists expound their theories, dispute points of detail, shake hands and agree to disagree. Freedom of speech has never meant freedom to offend, vilify, disparage and incite hatred against, without any responsibility, caution or penalty.
I don’t know about other countries but Holocaust denial is a crime in all of Europe as far as I know and in the UK incitement to hatred by reference to race, gender sexual orientation etc is also a crime. These are just laws appropriate to civilised society.
Dolan draws a line at incitement to violence – meaning physical violence presumably. Well actually the parents of the Sandy Hood victims have received death threats as well as all the hate mail and vilification in social media etc. Jones may not specifically incite violence but he certainly stirs up the atmosphere which encourages others to make such threats.
I am in no doubt that Sandy Hook happened and real children were killed. Now even a conspiracy nut must, if they have any intellectual integrity at all, admit that they could be wrong. And if they are wrong that means that people who suffered the worst kind of tragedy a parent can endure, must, on top of that cope with accusations, death threats and the whole cesspit of crazies obsessed with gun ownership. Is that not violence? I damn well think so. In some ways inflicting psychological torture is a worse kind of violence than sticks and stones. And who takes any responsibility? Not Jones, not your armchair conspiracy theorists, not the lowlifes on Facebook and Twitter expressing themselves in such vile language that there has to be something seriously wrong with them.
We do need laws against incitement to hatred, not to protect religions, states, governments, but to protect individuals from having to endure unjust oppression, intimidation, harassment and fear.
I wish the Sandy Hook parents every success in their law suit against Jones and I hope they manage to disgrace and bankrupt him. Won’t bring their kids back but will at least honour their memories.
Well, I disagree. If we just keep suing each other into oblivion, then no one will have any money except the lawyers. And I lost my only son, so I do have some experience with that. How is being at each other's throats going to honor their memory?
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As you're so very unpleasantly contemptuous of Rich Dolan's articulate and impassioned defense of free speech... the mods are currently discussing whether we can gift you the learning experience of understanding what it's like to be deplatformed.
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Sorry, kemo....We have seen through your thinly-veiled attempt to create division here on Avalon. Since you joined back in 2011 I would say you are just trying to yank Bill's chain. IMHO :ROFL:
Are you being serious, or are you joking? If you're being serious, then you've just made the argument that anyone who stirs up an atmosphere to encourage others to engage in violence is responsible for the behavior of those that engage in the violence. Which means - again, only if you're being serious - if someone interprets the words in your post as a form of psychological torture, your speech should be censored because somebody might do something violent. Then again, you're probably joking around.Quote:
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That's fine. But not everyone 'has no doubt', and that's also fine. That's free speech, the right to disagree.Quote:
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Alex Jones has every right to offer an opposing narrative to Sandy Hook if he has cause to do so. Whether one believes this story or that story is irrelevant. But it's his right, and everyone's right to speak up. For Sandy Hook, for 9/11, for Las Vegas or whatever.
Jones never advocated any violence. Nor did he incite violence, physical or otherwise. For aspersions made, in many instances, he's since apologised. I applaud that. If his narrative should happen to stir up the crazies, as Joe pointed out, that's not his fault is it.
When we fear to saying anything at all, in fear of what others may think/say/do, we literally are doomed as a species.
The minute you cut off free speech, we all fall silent. And when that happens, we cease to be human.
https://pics.me.me/if-freedom-of-spe...d-15730385.png
Come off it. He's not offering a 'different narrative' but peddling falsehoods that have been debunked many times over and his actions affect real people. He's also being sued by a guy who took a clip of the car in Charlottesville piling into people - which he falsely claims was staged. The crazies somehow managed to get to his parents with death threats. I wish him all the best with that too. Jones may not incite violence per se but he certainly knows very well what the consequences will be from his actions. That to me amounts to the same thing. Apologies? And what effing good are they to the people he's targeted? If you do something you need to apologise for then obviously you shouldn't have done it in the first place. No-one should be free to make recklessly irresponsible claims which ruin and endanger people's lives without consequences. Well hopefully the pigeons are coming home and about time. And as I said before if he is totally wrong - as am sure he is - about SH, to pile fear and misery on top of people's agony of losing childen may he damn well rot in hell.
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As far as I'm concerned, Alex Jones's instincts are spot on. He's probably going to be proved right about most of these incidents in the long run.
What this debacle is really all about is the missmatch between the mass mind control program and the perfectly legimate statements by people who question and challenge that program when they see things that don't fit the official program narrative.
I myself absolutely challenge the offical story about SH. I don't believe the official story at all. Do you kemo ?
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I see Kemo won't be replying to this thread.
There's a thread on this forum called "What Really Happened at Sandy Hook??".
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post600971
For anyone else who currently thinks Alex Jones has been banged to rights and debunked, I suggest a bit of browsing and reading ( and video watching, assuming Youtube hasn't removed them all ). Some of it IS nonsense, I guess, but there are far too many unresolved issues to walk away without a big fat question mark hovering over your head.
I'm really digging these Intelligent Disclosure clips with Richard.
Dave - Toronto
One of the reasons the Supreme Court has, as of yet, decided that a “Hate Speech” Clause doesn’t exist in the First Amendment is precisely because the Justices recognize that they don’t want to grant the Government the authority to determine what is and is not Offensive Speech.Quote:
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What Dolan is trying to get across is that while you may not like Alex Jones (and he may be completely wet about Sandy Hook as a False Flag ) when one grants large corporations the right to deplatform Jones based upon one’s opinion about what Jones may or may not have said about that massacre, one opens the door to other forms of censorship in this new electronic Public Square. Dolan’s point stands, and the battle to safeguard Free Speech and Individual Liberty is going to become one of the great fights of our times.
Richard returns..
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Richard Dolan on Privatized UFO Knowledge (The New Age Movement)
We pulled this one out of the archives. This interview was posted on June 17, 2014, and is with Red Ice Radio
He's ahead of the curve even though this old. Think David's crowd and Tom Delong's crowd.....But don't forget David Wow Wilcock just put a video that he tried to pass as new which fooled even some people here. Richard tells you when this was recorded which is nice. Nothing new but he nails it as usual.... I'm glad he's get more prolific on Youtube I have no doubt its Stacy's positive influence ... Many missed his many interviews he's done over the years because he didn't promote himself enough
I used to listen to Red Ice until he went very racist in my opinion
Just finished this one. Some good stories there about human looking ET's from some credible sources (Linda Howe, Timothy Good). Linda has a few good stories of this nature that I have heard her speak of. Love the idea of Richard and Graham Hancock getting together (nice to know that they are friends). What really piqued my curiosity though was learning that Richard and David Paulides are hooking up sometime in October to talk some 411 (which I still think is interdimensionals opening portals to take people). Very much looking forward to THAT discussion.Quote:
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Keep 'em coming folks!!
Dave - Toronto
Just finished this episode (all caught up now). WOW!! Some fantastic Q&A here (as well as the main topic of double edged disclosure, though I thought he should have given some emphasis to the religious aspect of disclosure).Quote:
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So....Richard intends to get out there and interview some of his colleagues over the next year. Recently he mentioned David Paulides set up for some time in October. In the above clip he confirms Joseph P. Farrell within the next few weeks. Setting the bar very high here...definitely looking forward to these interviews. Recently, a YT'er asked him about Graham Hancock, to which Richard replied that he'd love to talk to Graham and that he has long admired him and that they are friends. I really hope he manages to pull that off.
Next up...MIB's for which Richard brings up his recent interview with Nick Redfern (who, imo is the leading authoritarian on this subject....and Dolan shares this opinion). Some MIB's are human....some are not. From the few interviews that I have listened to with Nick over the years, it appears there are many different MIB entities which are not human.
Ultra-terrestrials....entities which are not from outer space (ie- a different planet).....but which are inter-dimensional or some other explanation.....and are they to be included in the overall up-to-date ET hypothesis? Good question!! Personally, I wasn't clued into the idea of inter-dimensionals until the last 10 years (when I stumbled upon the original Project Camelot). Up until then, I thought of ET's as only from space (ie-other planets).....but as Richard says there is a very strong degree of high strangeness going on here. I've long thought that inter-dimensionals were behind most of the Missing 411 abductions. When people refer to ET's....are inter-dimensional entities to be included with this terminology??
So Richard Dolan was offered the opportunity to publish the William Tomkins book (Selected By Extra Terrestrials) via RD Publishing (he currently has 10 authors who he is publishing for)....and Richard passed on it (emphatically) citing he didn't believe in it. Given how well the book has sold, he still says (emphatically) that he wanted nothing to do with it. He does back up Bob Lazar though (as he said..."Love you Stan...but you're wrong here"). An interview with Lazar would be interesting.
When asked about Dan Burisch, Richard appeared hesitant....as he said (and I agree)...he doesn't know what to make of Dan Burisch. He goes on to say that George Knapp strongly believes Burisch is a "faker".
George Knapp / Robert Bigelow / Richard Dolan - Round Table.....hell yeah!!
This one was a good one. Love the Q&A here.
Thx for posting these, Star Tsar
Dave - Toronto
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Posted by Bill RyanRecommended. This show is particularly good... Gordon, who's clearly very informed, bright and aware, asks Richard a whole sequence of REALLY good questions that he's never been asked before, and which I'd not have thought to ask myself. Excellent. Enjoy. :)Quote:
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For your listening pleasure...
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Your dose o Dolan..
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