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‼️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russia Proposes June 2 Talks with Ukraine – Lavrov
Russia has proposed holding the next round of direct talks with #Ukraine️ on June 2 in Istanbul.
The Russian delegation, led by Vladimir Medinsky, is prepared to present a memorandum outlining Moscow’s comprehensive approach to resolving the root causes of the Ukrainian crisis.
The document, developed swiftly by the Russian side, sets out Russia’s position across all key aspects necessary for a lasting resolution.
Moscow expects all parties genuinely interested in peace to support the renewed round of #Russian-#Ukrainian negotiations in Istanbul.
Russia's delegation, led by presidential aide Medinsky, is ready to present Ukraine with Moscow's memorandum on overcoming the root causes of the crisis on June 2 in Istanbul, Sergey Lavrov said in a statement: https://vk.cc/cMnhUi
Russia offers Ukraine to meet in Istanbul on June 2 — Lavrov
The foreign minister pointed out that the Russian side promptly developed a relevant memorandum
MOSCOW, May 28. /TASS/. Russia's delegation, led by presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky, is ready to present Ukraine with Moscow's memorandum on overcoming the root causes of the crisis on June 2 in Istanbul, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in a statement.
"As we agreed, the Russian side promptly developed a relevant memorandum, outlining our position on all aspects of reliably overcoming the root causes of the crisis. Our delegation, headed by Vladimir Medinsky, is ready to present this memorandum to the Ukrainian delegation and provide the necessary explanations during the second round of direct talks in Istanbul next Monday, on June 2," Lavrov pointed out.
29th May 2025 01:33
Ravenlocke
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‼️🇷🇺 Nearly 175,000 contract soldiers have joined #Russian military units since the beginning of the year, and over 14,000 volunteers have joined volunteer formations, according to Dmitry Medvedev.
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‼️🇷🇺🇺🇸Lavrov spoke about Ukraine with Rubio and the head of the Turkish MFA
▪️Lavrov informed the head of the US State Department about Moscow's preparation of specific proposals for the next round of direct negotiations with Ukraine in Istanbul.
▪️In a conversation with the head of the MFA, the Secretary of State emphasized Trump's focus on the speedy end of the Ukrainian conflict.
▪️Lavrov and the head of the Turkish MFA also discussed the situation around the Ukrainian crisis by phone, the MFA reported.
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🇮🇹🇺🇦 "Our weapons must always be used on the territory of Ukraine, this is Italy's line".
The Italian news agency ANSA quotes the statement of the Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Italy Antonio Tajani, speaking before the national secretariat, regarding the permission granted to Kiev by other countries to use long-range missiles outside the borders of Ukraine.
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‼️🇩🇪🇺🇦 #Zelensky Cuts #Germany Visit Short as Russian Forces Advance in Sumy Region — Der Spiegel
Zelensky abruptly ended his trip to Germany and returned to Ukraine due to #Russia’s offensive in the Sumy region, according to Der Spiegel. He was scheduled to attend an award ceremony for Ursula von der Leyen, but those plans were scrapped at the last minute.
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The photo and video show a large-scale fire at the Kharkiv Khimprom enterprise in the village of Vasishchevo in the Kharkiv region
About 12 Geran-2 drones attacked this enterprise at night. This is the second attack on the enterprise complex in Bezlyudovka, reports Perviy Kharkivskiy.
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A tragicomedy in three acts: Lithuania, which refused Russian gas, is now forced to buy ammonia from Russia
▪️The Lithuanian ammonia plant Achema could not withstand the situation and closed after the country refused to buy Russian gas.
▪️Now Lithuania buys ammonia directly from Russia. Over the past three years, this has cost €157.3 million.
➖"There is not a single operating ammonia terminal in the Baltic countries, so supplies from the US or southern countries are impossible," the Lithuanian plant commented on the situation.
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🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦 Trump believes that the situation on the Ukrainian settlement will become clearer within two weeks
▪️He also said that if necessary, he will take part in a meeting with Putin and Zelensky
▪️The American president stressed that he is not imposing sanctions against Russia in order not to disrupt the deal to resolve the Ukrainian conflict.
The family of Vladimir Medinsky, Russian presidential adviser and head of the country’s delegation at the talks with Ukraine, received threats from Ukrainians, journalist Vladimir Solovyov said in televised remarks: https://vk.cc/cMnu40
Journalist Solovyov says Kremlin adviser Medinsky receives threats from Ukrainians
Vladimir Solovyov said that Ukrainians hinted at a number of terrorist attacks
MOSCOW, May 28. /TASS/. The family of Vladimir Medinsky, Russian presidential adviser and head of the country’s delegation at the talks with Ukraine, received threats from Ukrainians, journalist Vladimir Solovyov said in televised remarks.
"The thing is that in the past few days, Vladimir Rostislavovich's family, the family itself and the relatives, both adult family members and children, have been receiving threats with quite specific content, saying that 'We know where your children are and we have many rigged scooters,' hinting at a number of terrorist attacks that have been carried out that way," he said.
"In international practice, responsibility for the life, health and safety of negotiators always lies with the other party, the receiving party, if you will. There have been cases when negotiators faced threats, and there were tragic cases, and they are well known, including in our history. Ukrainian Nazis took the matter a step further: They went as far as threaten family members. And when Vladimir Rostislavovich directly asked [Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem] Umerov, who led the Ukrainian delegation in Istanbul, about how he felt about this, he said, after taking a pause, ‘I asked around: It's definitely not us. It is most likely our Nazis. We have no influence on them,’" the journalist said.
29th May 2025 01:56
Ravenlocke
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Highlights from Lavrov's statements on new round of talks with Kiev, Russia's demands. TASS has compiled the main statements by the Russian foreign minister: https://vk.cc/cMmZyi
Highlights from Lavrov's statements on new round of talks with Kiev, Russia's demands
TASS has compiled the main statements by the Russian foreign minister
MOSCOW, May 28. /TASS/. Moscow will continue to insist on addressing the root causes of the Ukraine conflict at a new round of talks with Kiev, which will be announced in the near future, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at the international meeting of high representatives in charge of security issues.
TASS has compiled the main statements by the Russian foreign minister.
New round of Russia-Ukraine talks
The next round of negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will be announced in the near term.
To effectively resolve the crisis, it is vital to eliminate its underlying causes, Lavrov said. "Negotiations are better than war. However, to achieve a lasting result — and we are firmly convinced of this — the core causes of the conflict must be addressed."
The Ukraine conflict was "sparked by NATO’s long-standing aggressive eastward expansion, carried out despite repeated assurances from both the Americans and Europeans, initially to the Soviet leadership and later to Russia," the Russian foreign minister stated.
He emphasized that Ukraine's neutral, non-aligned, and nuclear-free status remains one of Russia’s "essential demands, which must be part of any settlement, as laid out during the April 2022 Istanbul talks."
At the resumed negotiations in Istanbul on May 16, Moscow again demanded that "all those discriminatory laws be repealed," Lavrov said. "We will maintain this position at the upcoming round of direct talks," he added.
West's position
Russia views "as totally unacceptable the West’s focus on the principle of territorial integrity" while disregarding the principle of peoples’ right to self-determination in the Ukraine conflict, Lavrov stated.
According to Lavrov, the West has failed to uphold human rights throughout the conflict. On the contrary, it openly promotes increased support for Ukraine, claiming that it "protects European values." "This is what those values boil down to — the erasure of national identities, especially that of Russians and Russian-speaking population."
Simultaneously, the acts of terrorism committed by the Kiev regime, "whose special services orchestrate assassinations of Russian politicians, military personnel, journalists, and public figures," go unnoticed. "It is unfortunate that the West only reacts to our justified and proportionate responses to Kiev’s terrorist attacks on civilians, while our retaliatory measures exclusively target military sites and infrastructure used by the Ukrainian army," Lavrov said.
NATO activity
Moscow is increasingly concerned about "a build-up of NATO forces along the contact line with Russia."
Additionally, Lavrov noted Moscow’s concern over the spread of NATO infrastructure into the Asia-Pacific. "History proves that NATO’s presence always precedes instability," he noted. The West is actively attempting to detach some ASEAN countries from the group and make them part of Western "narrow-bloc schemes," the top Russian diplomat said.
Iran’s nuclear dossier
Lavrov also pointed out that the situation with Iran’s nuclear program remains tense. "By choosing to dismantle the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action eight years ago, certain political groups in Israel, the US, and Europe aimed to terminate Tehran’s legitimate civilian nuclear developments, ignoring its rights under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty."
Nevertheless, the Russian foreign minister expressed hope that progress could be made and that the Iran-US dialogue is moving in the right direction.
29th May 2025 02:00
Ravenlocke
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On Russia's Taurus response from head of Duma Defense Committee.
"We are ready to shoot down Tauruses, to strike at the locations from which they are launched. at those who launch them, and if needed, at the places from which they were delivered," says Andrey Kartapolov.
And to clarify:
"The missile flight plans are created by the armed forces of the supplier country. Ukraine can push the 'launch' button, but it doesn't have the expertise... It's not some 45-year-old busified Ukrainian, who is operating this."
The Greatest Singular Act of Heroism by a Russian TANK CREW in the SMO
7 Leopards destroyed by just 1 Russian T 80 TANK
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‼️🇬🇧 Full video of an incredible battle: how our tank alone met an enemy column of 8 armored vehicles, powerful footage of repelling the counteroffensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Zaporizhzhya Front
▪️This story looks more like an action movie, but it is a real, amazing episode of a heroic battle in the Zaporizhzhya region near the Vremevsky salient.
▪️ Our tank crews went out to meet the enemy column in the Novodarovka area of 8 armored vehicles: 2 tanks and 6 MRAP M1224 MaxxPro. Our tank, supported by SPG and AGS grenade launchers, held out in the fight with the enemy armored column, emerging from it as the only winner.
🔞 The footage contains a lot of foul language.
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An interview with the commander of the “Alyosha” tank that destroyed an AFU convoy 🔥
"We acted at our own risk..."
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu presented the tank crew with state awards for courage and heroism!
Among the 85 participants of the 2nd stream of "Time of Heroes" is an officer of the legendary tank "Alyosha", the famous senior lieutenant Zharsky and Hero of Russia Sholomov
▪️Senior Lieutenant Ivan Zharsky became famous for his modesty: he stopped the counteroffensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Zaporizhzhya Front, destroying 13 enemy vehicles, including 7 Leopards, infantry and a strong point
▪️Also, tanker Rasim Baksikov from the crew of the legendary T-80 "Alyosha" made it to the second round. Under his control, the tank single-handedly destroyed 2 tanks, 6 combat armored vehicles and more than 100 Ukrainian Armed Forces militants.
▪️Lieutenant Colonel Maxim Sholomov, under whose command our soldiers held an important logistics hub for 7 days, also made it into the second round.
The officer continued to command even after losing his arm, and when an ATGM hit his BMP, Sholomov pushed his comrade out of the burning vehicle, saving his life.
▪️All three warriors are Heroes of Russia.
The best of the best were selected for the 2nd stream based on their merits at the front, test results and management experience.
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The crew of the legendary tank "Alyosha"🇷🇺
Vladimir Vladimirovich appreciated the highly artistic literary commentary talent of the fighter!😎👍🤙
Vladimir Putin to the member of the famous crew of the Alyosha tank:
"I also mean your literary talent. Аfter leaving the service of the Russian armed forces you could definitely be a commentator of the competitions. You’re very good at it!"
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You don't forget about him, no one will forget about him - President Putin.
The crew of the Alyosha tank informed the President of the Russian Federation about their comrade, who had previously been wounded, but still returned to the SMO zone with a crack in his head. The military also asked to reward him, because he served with them.
🔥 Putin presented the stars of the "Heroes of Russia" to the crew of the tank "Alyosha"
On the day of the anniversary of the Battle of Kursk, the president personally arrived at the celebrations and presented awards to the heroes of the Northern Military District, including the most distinguished servicemen of the 127th motorized rifle division of the fifth combined arms army.
The crew of the Alyosha tank defeated a convoy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporozhye region - the fighters destroyed eight enemy armored vehicles in one battle.
After the destruction of the last vehicle, the fighters covered the motorized riflemen for another forty minutes, which were deployed in battle formations.
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🐻 Hero of Russia Alexey Neustroev, one of the crew members of the legendary tank “Alyosha” that alone stopped a convoy of Ukrainian armored vehicles in the Zaporozhye direction.
🇷🇺🎉 Member of legendary Alyosha tank crew gets royal welcome fit for Khan upon returning home
Compatriots in the Ust-Aldansky district of Russia’s Yakutia presented the gunner of the legendary tank Alyosha with a herd of horses, a UAZ truck, and a plot of land, the head of the village told Sputnik.
A video, courtesy of the district’s administration, shows Alexey Neustroyev participating in the festivities.
🪖 🇷🇺 The Order of Courage was awarded to the Russian volunteer fighter for saving the commander of the Russian tank "Alyosha"
"While on the front line of a combat mission, Sergey Solenov (call sign 'Koluchy') spotted a Ukrainian drone hovering over the platoon commander, Lieutenant Alexander Levakov. When he saw the grenade being dropped in the immediate vicinity, he did not hesitate to cover the commander with his body, thereby saving his life," the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Levakov continued to command the personnel, and his unit completed the combat mission. Subsequently, he performed another heroic deed as a member of the crew of the Alyosha tank.
"Of course, I was pleased to receive such a high award. But it came as a surprise to me. I was just doing my military duty. I think Levakov would have done the same. I believe that everything was natural; Levakov could not have been hurt in that situation; otherwise, he would not have shown his commanding character," Solenov said after the awarding ceremony.
The crew of the Alyosha tank, which stopped the Ukrainian armored group in the Zaporozhye area, destroyed eight enemy armored vehicles in combat. Then the crew covered, for about 40 minutes, Russian motorized infantry units deployed in combat formations.
The losses of the enemy then, in addition to the destroyed equipment, amounted
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‼️🇷🇺 Nearly 175,000 contract soldiers have joined #Russian military units since the beginning of the year, and over 14,000 volunteers have joined volunteer formations, according to Dmitry Medvedev.
This second and third link it doesnt wish to show and its probably better not to look at them , disturbs sleep . Also it might be ukrainians in second video , hard to distinguish languages. https://x.com/kvistp/status/1926684279846621294
⚡️🇷🇺Putin: "Zelensky is forcibly capturing 30,000 men a month like dogs off the street meanwhile in Russia 50,000- 60,000 Russian volunteers are joining the army of their own free will."
U.S.-Supplied Air Defenses Fail In Ukraine
May 28, 2025
On May 23 the former Commander in Chief of the Ukrainian army had a pessimistic assessment of the war in Ukraine (machine translation):
Former commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and now Ambassador to the UK Valery Zaluzhny said that Russia has overtaken Ukraine in innovations on the battlefield.
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According to him, Ukraine at the moment "does not manage to continuously generate and scale innovations, even in those areas where yesterday we were ahead of the enemy." "The enemy has already overtaken us and we are lagging behind – and we must be honest about this," he said.
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The ex-commander-in-chief believes that the Russian Federation is now waging a war of attrition. In response, it is necessary, according to Zaluzhny, "to undermine the economy and social component in order to deprive Russia of the possibility of scientific and technological development and start the processes of civil unrest and disintegration." How to do this, the ex-commander-in-chief does not specify, ...
Zaluzhny was likely not only referring to the drone war which Russia is winning but also to the mediocre state of Ukraine's air defenses.
A day after Zaluzhny, the spokesman of the Air Force of Ukraine confirmed his take (machine translation):
Russia has improved its ballistic missiles, so Patriot systems have become worse at shooting them down. This was stated by the head of the Communications Department of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuriy Ignat, commenting on today's night shelling of Kiev. Iskander-M missiles, which attack along a ballistic trajectory, have been significantly improved and upgraded
"We are talking about shooting radar traps, which each missile can shoot during the approach to the target. Another is the flight of a ballistic missile along a quasi-ballistic trajectory, when the missile does not fly in a straight line, but already performs maneuvers, " he said on the telethon.
The new Iskander versions use decoys to confuse the air defense radars. They also maneuver during the last phase of their flight making their interception nearly impossible.
Reporting on the large scale Saturday night attack on Ukraine the Washington Post noted that the U.S. provided Patriot air defenses systems in Ukraine had failed (archived):
The Russian assault involved nearly 400 missiles and drones, including nine ballistic missiles that Ukrainian air defenses, already strained and in short supply, failed to intercept, Ukraine’s air force said.
Some of the Russian missiles destroyed at least one Patriot air defense battery. Each battery consists of a radar, a combat control station and two or more launcher vehicles. The cost for a full battery is about $1 billion. Each fired missile comes at a price of $2-4 million.
The Patriot battery killed during the weekend strike was not the first one to meet that fate.
The Military Watch Magazinehas documented the history of the system in Ukraine:
The Iskander system was first confirmed to have successfully destroyed a Patriot system on February 23, 2024, with a subsequent strike destroying another system near the Sergeevka locality on March 10 that year, leaving ground forces in the region exposed. Subsequently in the second week of July, 2024, new footage confirmed the destruction of two batteries in the Odessa region, while on August 11 three more missile batteries and an AN/MPQ-65 radar were reported to have been destroyed in Iskander-M strikes. One of the Iskander-M’s more recent successes saw the destruction of the Patriot’s AN/MPQ-65 multifunctional radar station, combat control cabin, and missile launch vehicles all destroyed in the Dnepropetrovsk region.
Together with the one on Saturday/Sunday that sums up to a total of ten destroyed systems. That is likely more than half of the total provided by the U.S. and its allies.
The Patriot air defense system is quite old. The first version was used 35 years ago during the first U.S. war on Iraq. It largely failed to achieve its mission:
In 1992 a military report titled ‘Patriot Missile System Effectiveness During Desert Storm’ found that of the 158 missiles fired during the Gulf War, 45 percent were launched against false targets. An early 1990s study by Theodore Postol, professor of Science, Technology and International Security at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and prominent expert on missile technologies, highlighted: “The Patriot's intercept rate during the Gulf War was very low. The evidence from these preliminary studies indicates that Patriot's intercept rate could be much lower than 10 percent, possibly even zero." Even “the most primitive of adversaries" could easily evade interception, his study concluded.
New versions of the Patriot's radar and missiles, PAC-2 and PAC-3, were introduced but continued to fail:
Following the revelations of the Patriot system’s shortcomings in the Gulf War, there were considerable hopes in the Western world that its modernisation would allow it to provide a much more viable defence against ballistic missile attacks. Such hopes were disappointed by its performance during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and moreso 14 years later when further modernised variants failed to intercept a strike by makeshift ballistic missiles launched by Yemeni paramilitaries against Saudi Arabia in 2017. The Yemeni missiles were shown by satellite imagery and by photos and videos of the attack not to have been neutralised, despite claims by the Saudi and U.S. government sources to the contrary. Analysis conducted by a research team of missile experts showed a warhead flying unimpeded over Saudi Arabia despite its large arsenal of modernised Patriot batteries protecting the affected area.
The magazine concludes:
The questions more recently raised by Ukrainian officials regarding the Patriot system’s reliability against Russian ballistic missile attacks thus fit in with a long history of underwhelming performances in such a role. This has significant implications for militaries across the Western world and in Northeast Asia that rely on the system for their defence.
Another failure point of the Patriot system is the notorious lack of ammunition needed for it. According to The Economist (archived) the current production rate for Patriot systems is 650 missiles per year. Over the same time frame Russia is producing 750 ballistic missiles each at about 10% of the price of one Patriot missile.
KYIV — Ukraine is increasingly worried about securing more U.S.-made Patriot air defense systems, as stockpiles sent during the Biden administration are drying up and the new administration is resistant to sending more, according to six Ukrainian and Western officials.
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Ukraine’s dire need for Patriots was apparent over Memorial Day weekend when its air defense forces failed to intercept any of the nine ballistic missiles launched Saturday night and early on Sunday. Two of the missiles were directed at Kyiv, according to Ukraine’s air defense forces, where at least two Patriot units are believed to be stationed.
One of those Patriot units most likely no longer exists.
The Post fails to explain why Ukraine should or would ask for more Patriot systems when, as the same report says, these fail their purpose.
The Post's opinion editors are even worse. Despite multiple reports in their own paper that Patriot systems are not able to defend against Russian missiles they falsely state (archived) that they can do so, only to then repeat that they don't:
What scares Ukraine more than the drones, however, is its diminishing stockpile of U.S.-made Patriot air defense systems. Ballistic missiles fired by Russia can be reliably countered only with Patriot launchers. On Saturday night, Ukraine failed to intercept nine such missile launches.
The editors seem to imply that Ukraine failed to intercept the Iskander missiles because it was lacking Patriot air defense missiles. But that was not the case. Video from the Saturday night attack shows the firing of at least 14 Patriot missiles by two batteries before one of them goes up in flames.
None of the 14 fired air defense missiles had hit the incoming ballistic missile.
[The Post editors are lobbying for secondary sanctions in form of additional tariffs on products from anyone who buys basic materials from Russia. The tariffs would have to be paid by U.S. consumers. They would hurt the U.S. more than they would hurt Russia and certainly fail to help Ukraine.]
To summarize: Patriot air defenses are a chimera. The system has failed its purpose, to reliably defend against ballistic missile, since its creation.
The only reliable target it manages to intercept each and every time a missile is launched is taxpayer money. One wonders how many bribes are flowing to generate further requests for it.
29th May 2025 04:23
Ravenlocke
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‼️🇷🇺 Nearly 175,000 contract soldiers have joined #Russian military units since the beginning of the year, and over 14,000 volunteers have joined volunteer formations, according to Dmitry Medvedev.
This second and third link it doesnt wish to show and its probably better not to look at them , disturbs sleep . Also it might be ukrainians in second video , hard to distinguish languages. https://x.com/kvistp/status/1926684279846621294
Text: Archpriest' in the FSB's Russian Orthodox 'Church' Andrei Dorogobid in Irkutsk. The cross-dressing FSB officer finished a combat tour murdering Ukrainians and returned to Russia.
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@sumlenny
's program - ominously feels like North America and Western Europe is wasting precious time.
Text: 🏳️ Russia: An entire company of Russian fascists ran away and their commander was captured by the Ukrainian forces in the ongoing Kursk offensive.
When asked directly about supplying #Taurus missiles to Ukraine, German Reichskanzler Friedrich Merz gave no answer.
Instead, he stated that #Germany plans to fund the production of Ukrainian long-range weapons and support joint manufacturing.
I don't want to defend the new Reichskanzler Merz, but the reason for his hesitation is clear and is not mentioned in the post/tweets, but is an important one:
If Taurus missiles directly are fired from Ukraine it is a direct attack of German military on Russia. Why? Because Ukrainian staff cannot handle and program these weapons. It needs to be German specialist soldiers for this. Hence it's the start and declaration of war by Germany on Russia.
So the deal is not just about delivering of long(est)-range weapons and let Ukraine military do with it how it sees fit (worse enough but it would not start WW3). No, It is German military direct involvement in attacking Russian - and the fact that they do it from Ukrainian soil does not matter here).´
I guess this is why he hesitates and only wants to fund the Ukrainians to develop these weapons on their own with German help and then be able to use them with Ukrainian military staff.
Well, at least this is what I still HOPE he knows well and wants, but if he does not care and lets German military fire these weapons then we are indeed all F*CKED.
29th May 2025 09:02
Open Minded Dude
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IF, Russia snapped and if Russia is not being pushed around a chess board by invisible globalist plotters, their nuclear 'snap' would be wasted on turning Kiev to glass. Kiev is nothing without it's backers.
Geneva, Monaco, Vatican, London would be among the first targets on any realistic nuclear final option strategists' list.
Maybe a needed sobering comment, so for what it's worth: If Russia 'snaps' and nuclear bombs the West then there will be no Russia anymore either due to NATO nuclear retaliation. So I guess they won't in any case.
Nothing like this will happen, but it's an interesting tabletop War Game. :)
In a nuclear exchange with Europe, should such a thing ever happen, the US would NOT get involved. (Why would they? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose.) Meanwhile, much of the EU would be destroyed. Remember that their air defense systems are very inferior in both quality and quality.
Russia, meanwhile, would be able to intercept most incoming missiles with their S-400, S-500, and S-550 systems. A few would get through, and Russia would be wounded — but still fully intact militarily and economically.
What might happen, a far more realistic possibility, is the deployment of highly destructive but non-nuclear Oreshik missiles. The kind of thing one might see in a dramatic WW3-knife-edge movie is an announced demonstration of the Oreshnik on a non-civilian target specified 24 hours in advance. Like:
"This is what we will target and destroy at 01:00 hours Central European Time tomorrow.
Evacuate every person within a kilometer radius. You may attempt to intercept the missile, but you will fail. (Be our guests and try.)
We do not intend to kill or injure any person. We merely wish to remind you what we can do."
It is what is discussed with Schrobenhausen where the Taurus missiles are being manufactured. Yet it is a play with fire.
NATO has it clear in its statutes (Jako quoted it) that if an ally is attacked they HAVE to react, this will mostly and above all the US with all its capabilities. They lose face if they don't and they won't.
They won't answer with nuclear missliles if the Russian Oreshniks are conventional. But it can escalate and get out of control for both sides easily and quickly.
I would not bet on this to be winnable for anyone. And no, the superior anti-missile system of the Russians is not a guarantee. I'm certainly no military weapons expert but NATO will have enough 'left' over to retaliate 'in kind'. Of this I am sure. There is not winnable nuclear exchange. And no winnable conventional exchange between Russia and NATO/EU countries either. Not even if it is 'announced' to prevent civil casualties.
In any case: Both sides lose. Big time. The world will lose. This should not even be discussed, not even a 'limited' nuclear exchange. Not a conventional either. We should never wish for this to happen at all. It is the end of the world as we know it (and we won't feel fine, no one will on either side).
29th May 2025 13:38
grapevine
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B]Macron gets a proper whack[/B] https://youtube.com/watch?v=ky6F4k7J08A (19:26)
George brings another slant to the recent drubbing of the French President and draws attention to the attendant's torn shoulder of her jacket together with what appears to be blood. He also mentions that Macron is taking a back seat on international matters as is Keir Starmer, who now realises his grave political situation.
Amd then the news turns to Merz and his stance on Taurus missiles. Margarita Simonyan made very plain that if Russia was struck by German missiles then Germany would be struck in turn.
29th May 2025 13:41
Bill Ryan
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Jeez! :facepalm:
(Maybe we might gloss over some of Igor Sushko's posts :ROFL:)
29th May 2025 16:45
jaybee
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Clearly we are approaching a very dangerous period of time - when the Globalist Elites and their Deep State operatives are pushing pushing pushing for more and more war in Ukraine - while pretending to be against it....I REALLY hope that people, for instance, like Alex Jones can get close enough to speak to Trump to keep his mind clear on some fundamental points....the most fundamental being that the Globalists want Russia under THEIR control + incorporated into the One World Government (and Economy) - you can't have a One World Government unless the whole world is involved....especially a country like Russia... that has the biggest land mass and is rich with natural resources... and THAT is the basis for the Ukraine Conflict - keeping NATO out of Ukraine - Russia is ultimately defending herself from being destroyed and taken over.... Trump wouldn't (doesn't) want that for America and he needs to understand that Putin wouldn't (doesn't) want that for Russia....
Trump needs to understand that the US and Russia either stand together against the Globalists (Neocons etc) or will fall together...
Trump needs to BEWARE of evil forces wearing him down... re Ukraine -
Quoting myself - after making some edits - although the main bulk of it - the big first paragraph is exactly the same and untouched....
I haven't caught up with Alex Jones yet to see what he has had to say about Trump's somewhat alarming post(s) on Truth Social ...where he seem to warn (threaten?) Russia and made a statement that could be seen as in support of NATO interference in Russia's sphere of influence...
I just saw this and Dr Steve Turley had waded in - - - and has himself warned Trump that his Base didn't give him their support to escalate the Ukraine/Russia conflict - but to de~esculate it - and he ended up saying that he hoped it was 'rhetoric' coming from Trump... Steve Turley has been extremely supportive towards Trump but he felt compelled to give some push back....
I'm hoping that there are people around Trump who are going to be watchful of him getting himself on the wrong side of all this and making a serious error.... due to different factors - like frustration because he wants to resolve the war and has spent a lot of time on it... and maybe overload... because he is doing so much on so many levels.....and he's only human at the end of the day... maybe even electronic interference in his environment...... just saying....
You Won't BELIEVE what Trump Just Got WRONG!!! (14:01)
Alex Jones covers the latest World War 3 developments, as Russia has ordered strikes on Ukraine following an assassination attempt against President Vladimir Putin. Jones warns the conflict could escalate to full-blown nuclear war if President Trump approves retaliation against Russia.
my comment..... I personally don't think it will go Nuclear because of the constraints of creating a major, mushroom type detonation...any place any time.....BUT.... depleted uranium and other (secret) high tech weapons can do MAJOR long term damage... I don't think the Global Elite will want to bring about total nuclear destruction - no matter how much they are trying to seriously reduce the world population ....
all their well planned dreams of the Smart Cities, transhumanism, transgenderism etc etc - and their Authoritarian Dictatorship plans would go straight out the window - ??
A quote from Alex.... that I just heard while writing this...
.....'this is really, REALLY bad...'
He thinks Trump is being 'kept in the dark'....
29th May 2025 19:31
Bill Ryan
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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He thinks Trump is being 'kept in the dark'....
He may well be right, but this will NOT go nuclear. Alex is being a little hyperbolic here :)
If if nuclear exchange was (theoretically) initiated by the west, all their wargames would have already told them they'd be annihilated. And it would never be initiated by Russia, because they don't need to use nuclear weapons.
30th May 2025 09:31
Tintin
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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Igor Sushko also reported,
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January 2024, Ukraine's unbreakable spirit in the face of Russia's invasion will eventually win the war. Absolute Legends. ✊
Jeez! :facepalm:
(Maybe we might gloss over some of Igor Sushko's posts :ROFL:)
Yes, glossing over is highly recommended :) I've seen some absurd cope over the last three plus years - that one takes the biscuit :ROFL:
30th May 2025 10:23
Tintin
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
Good :thumbsup: We need to see a lot more of this although a part of me really sympathises with the Ukrainian citizenry's predicament: the SBU are as feared and dreaded as the reprehensible Stasi were; it'd be tough but maybe, just maybe it could happen. I guess one way to put a stop to all the fighting is if Ukrainians can galvanise sufficiently well and effectively and demand the reinstatement of the legitimately elected Victor Yanukovych who, as we know, was unceremoniously ousted by the US-UK led coup in 2014. That'd be some turn up for the books if that could happen.
In the meantime, the largest group of citizens I've yet seen fighting back against the mobilisers (with thanks to Diana Panchenko):
Here's another view of the same incident:
31st May 2025 00:09
Ravenlocke
Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia
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🇷🇺 Main Points From Nebenzya at the UN Security Council:
➡️ A ceasefire must include a halt to Western arms shipments to Kiev and an end to Ukraine’s forced mobilization.
➡️ Peace terms must be agreed upon first—only then can a ceasefire be discussed.
➡️ Europe, desperate to keep the U.S. on its side, resorts to lies and distortion against Russia.
➡️ Russia is prepared to continue and escalate military operations in Ukraine for as long as necessary.
➡️ Zelensky, whose term has expired, refuses to end the war because he's afraid of elections and being held accountable for billions in stolen aid.
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Ukraine added Vladimir Medinsky to the Mirotvorets website database.
The page of the head of the Russian negotiating delegation in Istanbul contains his personal data, as well as information about his family - wife, children, father and sister.
- AN
“Why is the green aphid seeking direct negotiations with the presidents of the U.S. and Russia?
The answer seems obvious: a three-way conversation implies powerful legitimization of the insect through the authority of those present.
But there are other accompanying goals as well:
1. To delay elections: “See, even they are talking to me, despite our Constitution—this means my authority is recognized by the big dangerous uncles!”
2. To signal to nationalist elites: now is not the time to change horses midstream (i.e., not the time to fight the aphid). Especially since the aphid has developed special relations (myrmecophily) with the Europeans (see below).
3. To secure the right to continue looting the military budget: It’s known that the aphid not only has enemies, but also patrons. Its symbiosis with ants (Macrons, Scholzes, Starmers, and other hymenopterans) is well known. They protect (“herd”) the aphid, receiving in return honeydew—secretions that contain cocaine.
4. To reinforce the idea that even a worthless aphid is entitled to sign papers at the end of military events, and thus should be untouchable in the future.
As for the last point, the green arthropod is mistaken.
Jodl and Keitel, though they signed the surrender on behalf of Nazi Germany, were nonetheless hanged following verdicts at the Nuremberg Tribunal.
History is a ruthless pest exterminator.”
Why are green aphids seeking direct negotiations with the presidents of the USA and Russia? (Aphids are small sap-sucking insects in the family Aphididae)
The answer seems obvious: a three-person conversation means powerful legitimization of the insect due to the authority of those present.
But there are other, related tasks.
1. Postpone the elections: "See, even they talk to me, and despite our Constitution, it means that my powers are recognized by the older dangerous uncles!"
2. Send a signal to their nationalist elites: it is not the time to change horses in midstream (not the time to fight aphids). Moreover, aphids have established a special relationship (myrmecophilia) with Europeans (see below).
3. Obtain the right to continue stealing the military budget. It is known that aphids have not only enemies, but also patrons. Its symbiosis with ants (macrons, mertz, starmers and other hymenoptera) is well known. They protect ("herd") the aphids, receiving honeydew from them in return - secretions containing cocaine.
4. To reinforce the idea that even an insignificant aphid has the right to sign papers on the results of military events, which means that it is untouchable in the future, by the fact of the meeting.
The green arthropod is wrong about the last conclusion.
Although Jodl and Keitel participated in signing the capitulation on behalf of Hitler's Germany, they were nevertheless hanged by the verdict of the Nuremberg Tribunal. History is a merciless pest control specialist.
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We will wait for unrest in Russia and take back what is ours."
The founder of the neo-Nazi "Azov" regiment (banned in Russia), Ukrainian militant Andriy Biletsky, included in the Russian Federation's list of terrorists and extremists, said Ukraine should use the cease-fire to strengthen itself, conduct internal mobilization and, when the opportunity arises, attack Russia:
(This idiot thinks there will be a case fire 😂)
"If we stop the enemy, perhaps we will be able to resolve one or two strategic issues, so this, so to speak, ceasefire will be completely acceptable to us.
We will then be able, without falling into this moral hole, to start internal mobilization, reorganization of the country and so on, creating a much more effective instrument."
As PolitNavigator reports, Biletsky* is confident that Ukraine will either reach a point where Russia will be cautious about attacking it, or a period of unrest will begin in Russia, during which the bandits will be able to "take back what is theirs."
The new (red) fortifications in the north look like the new border for the coming buffer zone by the way...
According to Western analysts, in anticipation of a major offensive by the Russian Federation, Ukrainian troops are building a new defensive line stretching up to 350 km from Kharkov to Zaporozhye.
Its task is to contain the advance of Russian troops in the event of the loss of Pokrovsk, Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. The fortifications are not continuous, but in sections, relying on the terrain, rivers and urban areas. In strong directions, up to three anti-tank ditches are dug, "dragon's teeth", wire and short T-shaped trenches are installed, which should not allow the front to collapse during a breakthrough. The sections are selected so that the natural terrain helps slow down the advance - they are built around rivers and hills.
All this suggests that Ukraine does not expect to hold its current positions in Donbass and is preparing for the worst-case scenario. The new frontier is not an alternative to the existing line, but an insurance policy in case of its collapse.
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Ukraine is preparing for a Russian offensive and is building a new line of defense in the east, about 350 km long, local information resources report
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🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukraine Transmits Draft Ceasefire Memorandum to Moscow
A high-ranking Ukrainian official informed media that the Kyiv authorities have sent Moscow a draft memorandum on a peaceful settlement, which stipulates a ceasefire "on land, sea, and in the air," along with international monitoring of the truce.
The document was transmitted to Moscow on May 28th, and to Washington the day prior. Andriy Yermak, Head of the Ukrainian Presidential Office, confirmed that Kyiv awaits Russia’s version of the document to ensure the next Istanbul meeting "proceeds constructively." Russia, meanwhile, proposed holding a negotiation round in Istanbul on June 2nd and presenting its own version of the memorandum.
Dmitry Peskov, Spokesperson for the Russian President, declined to disclose details but noted that the parties are indeed discussing a temporary ceasefire. The Russian Foreign Ministry added that Russia’s draft will reflect core settlement principles, agreement timelines, and a potential ceasefire upon reaching consensus.
- FRWL
🟥 The Russian Armed Forces, advancing at the junction of the Belgorod and Kharkov regions, began to form a new section of the buffer zone in this direction, reported military expert Andrei Marochko;
🟥 In one day, fighters of the Western Group of Forces destroyed 38 unmanned aircraft control points, 7 Starlink satellite communication stations and 4 field ammunition depots of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, reported military personnel from the field;
🟥 One civilian was injured as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces strike on the village of Zozuli in the Belgorod region. This was reported by the governor.
An ambulance team took a man with a mine-explosive injury, blind shrapnel wounds to the back and leg to the city hospital. The vehicle he was in was damaged;
🟦 The Sea of Azov in the DPR will become a health resort for Russians, said the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin.
"The Sea of Azov has many advantages. It warms up quickly, there is a fairly long season - from May to October. The sea itself is rich in minerals, useful elements, such as iodine, for example," he noted.
🟦 The Ukrainian Air Defense Forces began to hit civilians more often, trying to shoot down the Geraniums.
A RIA Novosti source in the pro-Russian underground said that Russian drones have learned to change their trajectory and approach a target from a great height.
As a result, in several large cities of Ukraine - Dnipro, Sumy, Kharkov, residential buildings were damaged by Ukrainian fire, there are casualties;
🟦 Trump confirmed that Friday will be the last day for Elon Musk as head of the US Government Efficiency Department.
The US President also announced a joint press conference with Musk on Friday evening and noted that the billionaire will continue to help his administration.
- UARU
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❗In Izmail, Odessa region, a warehouse of Nova Poshta burned down after an air attack, Ukrainian TG channels report
This is not the first time that the Russian Armed Forces have struck this enemy target.
It has long been known that Nova Poshta is an accomplice of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They provide Ukrainian militants with their logistical capabilities for the transfer of equipment and weapons.
- UARU
