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I’ve read conflicting reports as to whether Epstein was hired as a teacher by Attorney General Barr’s father Donald circa 1974 and didn’t know what to think. However, after reading this tweet by John Doe and the supporting Daily Beast article, I think it’s likely that this information is not true.
Thomas Volscho, who wrote the article, appears to have done his homework, including looking at the Dalton School yearbooks and newspaper. There was no mention of Epstein in the 1973-1974 yearbook. Donald Barr left in February, 1974. The school’s newspaper indicated in September 1974 that Epstein “joined the [math] department this year.” Apparently, the Dalton School lost four or five math teachers prior to the 1974-1975 year so there would be an urgent need to fill these positions.
I’m inclined to believe that, given this evidence and the fact that Barr left so early in the year, it’s likely that Headmaster Peter Branch—not Barr—hired Epstein.
The Daily Beast article provides other interesting details about Epstein’s early life including the names of his parents Paula Stolofsky and Seymour Epstein. Volscho did his due diligence and checked birth, census and marriage records to verify these facts. This is important because the details of his parentage are usually missing from stories about his early life.
Volscho also suggests that Epstein may have used the Dalton School to gain access to some of the richest families in the United States—a world removed from the working class neighbourhood of his childhood.
It is also interesting that, in a 2009 deposition, Epstein answered that the girls he taught at Dalton were “mostly old—mostly 17 and 18.” He said that he didn’t remember if he had sexual contact with students after (not while) he was a teacher there.
See: https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnDoe78...27017682862080
See: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...a=twitter_page
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Chanie what I find very interesting is that epstein was a student at two separate universities and did not graduate from either..... Where did the money come from for him to attend? His father never would have made nearly enough to pay tuition for this. It seems to me that both brothers may have been groomed from a young age. And his parents married a short time before his birth.... that leaves the door wide open for third party happenings in that department.
This is a very good article and even though it clears up the Barr involvement, it still leaves the doors open for other idiosyncrasies that may be hanging out there. I haven't seen any measurable proof about when he was approached by mossad....... so, I will assume that this connection worked it's way in through other family members at a young age. I would have to see a viable family tree to peg it completely.
None-the-less, excellent find. Thanks so much.
warmest,
crosby
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What has Q said about why the Iran nuclear deal was ditched- and the prospects for war with Iran?
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Hi Babysteps, because Iran has breached it's limits on stockpile limits of low-enriched uranium, I'm sure that behind the scenes actions have been taking place. I will say no outward conversations that I can see have taken place for a couple of weeks. Knowing Trump though, he has already reached another agreement behind closed doors as to what is going to happen - which I believe does not include a nuclear war.
Wish I had more to offer, but there isn't anything new to report as of yet. From what I have witnessed in the past, Trump has been successful in keeping no war promises.
warmest,
crosby
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What has Q said about why the Iran nuclear deal was ditched- and the prospects for war with Iran?
Q has never called for war with Iran. Q has stated themselves that the idea of America going to war with Iran is fake news. Q has only ever called for “the good people of Iran” to stand up and fight the corrupt and criminal elements of their own governments (the elements in cahoots with the corrupt and criminal elements of our own deep state), in the same way they encourage us to fight the criminal elements in our own deep state.
Have a read through all the Iran related Q posts yourself (there’s too many to post here in full)
https://www.qanonposts.io/?s=Iran
Q states that the old Iran deal was set up to be a CIA slush fund. A new Iran deal would rectify the situation to bring peace and stability, similar to the deal with North Korea.
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Apr 23 2018 12:56:57 (EST) !xowAT4Z3VQ Q ID: a2d4d4
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Reminder.
Iran is next.
Marker.
CLAS – Sec 11A P 2.2.
“Installments.”
$250B.
Jan 1.
Jun 1.
No inspection @ GZ NR sites.
No missile tech prevention.
Load carrying.
ICBM.
Think NK.
Who controls the $?
Who really controls the $?
Why does the EU have a vested interest in this deal?
Who receives the money?
When the US sends billions in aid and/or climate and/or etc who or what entity audits / tracks to confirm intended recipient(s) rec?
None.
How does GS fund WW counter-events?
Who funds WW leftist events?
American taxpayer (subsidize).
Define nuclear stand-off.
Who benefits?
How do you ‘squeeze’ funds out of the US?
Threat to humanity?
Environment push?
Think Paris accord.
Who audits / tracks the funneled money?
Define kickback.
Define slush fund.
EPA.
No oversight re: Hussein.
Why?
How does the C_A fund non sanctioned ops?
Off the books?
Re_ read past drops.
Will become relevant.
Welcome Mr. President.
The U.S. will NOT agree to continue the Iran deal as it currently stands.
Q
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U1 – CA – EU – ASIA – IRAN/NK
Where did it end up?
What was the purpose?
Who was suppose to win the election of 2016?
Why was the Iran deal kept from Congress and placed at the highest level of classification?
Meaning, a United States Senator could NOT review the deal but other foreign powers could.
How much money was hand delivered by plane(s)?
Why in cash?
Where did the plane(s) actually land?
What was the cover?
Who paid for BO to attend Harvard?
Why would this occur pre-political days?
Who was the biggest contributor to the CF?
The graphic is the key.
Why does the MSM push conspiracy w/o investigation?
Who controls the MSM?
What does the word ‘conspiracy’ mean to you?
Has the word ‘conspiracy’ been branded to mean something shameful in today’s society?
The world cannot handle the truth.
This pill cannot be swallowed by most.
Risk in painting this picture.
THE SUM OF ALL FEARS.
Q
Q says the idea of America going to war with Iran is Fake news propoganda pushed by dimwitted ‘useful idiots’ to create division:
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Psychological Projection.
Define Conspiracy.
1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
“a conspiracy to destroy the government”
2. the action of plotting or conspiring.
“they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice”
[Fake News]
Fake News collaborating and pushing knowingly false information?
Fake News ‘KNOWINGLY FALSE’ narrative pushes.
1. POTUS colluded w/ Russia to win the 2016 Presidential election
2. POTUS is puppet to PUTIN
3. POTUS to irreparably harm relationships w/ our allies
4. POTUS will collapse U.S. economy
5. POTUS will collapse stock market
6. POTUS will cause war w/ NK
7. POTUS will cause war w/ IRAN
8. POTUS will destroy the world.
9. On and on……..(knowingly false)
FEAR & SCARE PUSH.
They would rather see NK peace negotiations fail (WAR!) than see POTUS resolve.
Scandalous Media Bias?
Conspiracy?
Collaboration?
What are they hiding?
FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS NOT FREE AND INDEPENDENT.
FAKE NEWS MEDIA = PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
Think WL list of journalists who colluded w/ HRC/DNC (2016 Pres election).
They want you DIVIDED.
DIVIDED by RACE.
DIVIDED by RELIGION.
DIVIDED by CULTURE.
DIVIDED by CLASS.
DIVIDED by POLITICAL AFFILIATION.
DIVIDED YOU ARE WEAK.
TOGETHER YOU ARE STRONG.
YOU, THE PEOPLE, HAVE THE POWER.
This movement challenges their ‘forced’ narrative.
This movement challenges people to not simply trust what is being reported.
Research for yourself.
Think for yourself.
Trust yourself.
This movement is not about one person or a group of people.
WE, THE PEOPLE.
You are witnessing a FULL PANIC ATTACK by the FAKE NEWS MEDIA & COVERT ALT MEDIA AFFILIATES (foreign gov’t).
They cannot contain or defeat what they do not understand.
Is any of this normal?
Think sealed indictments count.
Think resignations of CEOs.
Think resignations of Senators.
Think resignations of Congress.
Think termination of sr FBI…
Think termination of sr DOJ…
WATERGATE X1000
Attacks will only intensify.
Logical thinking.
Ask yourself a simple question – WHY????
Q
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I saw this Wikileaks article right after the election. If DJT hasn’t done all the things he promised, I say, he had to do first things first.
Which meant protect the populous from the corrupt in high places, and for certain protect children from being kidnapped and abused.
A house is built in stages, first the foundations, then walls, and roof last. This process can never be reversed, not in 3 D.
The Q drops rally the anons, which adds something like fuel injection to the effort. Without that the Deep State would never be defeated, it is just too huge and powerful. As an aspbie myself, I saw this clearly, immediately.
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Essentially, Assange is saying is that the aforementioned stakeholders who want to see Trump gone have played a long-game, whereby they have worked “to extract as many unpopular positions as possible (e.g tax cuts for the super rich), push the resulting political corpse to Mueller & install Mike Pence.”
This, of course, was done as means of severing Trump from his political base, which largely opposes CIA interventionism, Zionism, and globalist banking cartels. The idea behind it being that when Mueller moves to recommend impeachment, Trump will have strayed so far from the positions that got him elected that there will be a minimal public outcry in his defense.
This follows chatter earlier this year that some saw Mike Pence as “the Deep State’s insurance policy.”
In fact, Wikileaks’ Assange, tweeted back in March, that there was a plan afoot by Hillary Clinton and her loyalists within the Intelligence Community to force a “Pence takeover.”
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Chanie what I find very interesting is that epstein was a student at two separate universities and did not graduate from either..... Where did the money come from for him to attend? His father never would have made nearly enough to pay tuition for this. It seems to me that both brothers may have been groomed from a young age. And his parents married a short time before his birth.... that leaves the door wide open for third party happenings in that department.
This is a very good article and even though it clears up the Barr involvement, it still leaves the doors open for other idiosyncrasies that may be hanging out there. I haven't seen any measurable proof about when he was approached by mossad....... so, I will assume that this connection worked it's way in through other family members at a young age. I would have to see a viable family tree to peg it completely.
None-the-less, excellent find. Thanks so much.
warmest,
crosby
I agree with you about his background. There are still a lot of unanswered questions, especially when it comes to the early years and precisely where he “took the wrong turn” in life. It’s very possible that he had been “groomed” for this role from a very early age. Hopefully, people will keep digging and figure this out.
I have a professional background in genealogical research and know that it is not unusual for a woman to get pregnant by one man in that era and quickly marry another in order to “avoid disgrace.” I’ve also seen instances where a prominent person will father an illegitimate child and place the baby with a family who then raise the baby as their own. Although less likely, records can be doctored. Anything is possible, especially where money and reputation are concerned.
It can take years to research a family history. I did come across this article that goes into more depth about his family and provides a chart of names. One would have to look at primary documents to verify all of this, but it does give a person a place to start—some names to look into. It appears as if some of his ancestors came from Russia and Lithuania. I believe the Bronfmans came from Russia as well.
See: http://marycumminsrealestatemarycummins.blogspot.com
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... worried about our Champion Kiwi Elf. His inspiration and dedication has been so good and know this recent happening has been on his mind even though he hasnt said. Stay strong Kiwi Elf!!
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As well as, among others, mgray
I would like to apologize ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE FORUM for the sarcasm and abuse thrown his (their) way in such a condescending and cruel manner
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Someone shared a pm with me that was not good at all... We this thread are being labeled some pretty bad things... From people with influence. They claimed we infiltrated in to cause drama, being Q wannabes and a Q cult...
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Someone shared a pm with me that was not good at all... We this thread are being labeled some pretty bad things... From people with influence. They claimed we infiltrated in to cause drama, being Q wannabes and a Q cult...
Someone sent me a link to a recent Kerry Cassidy video where she makes these claims. It sounded all very vague and gossipy and like there was something nefarious going on here, when we know there isn't.
My first thought was to not give it anymore energy.
It seems the whisper campaigns have moved outside the forum.
I hope someone who knows Kerry will reach out to her and correct her misunderstanding of the situation.
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Thank you edina I was trying to be more diplomatic but that is exactly it...
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crosby
Chanie what I find very interesting is that epstein was a student at two separate universities and did not graduate from either..... Where did the money come from for him to attend? His father never would have made nearly enough to pay tuition for this. It seems to me that both brothers may have been groomed from a young age. And his parents married a short time before his birth.... that leaves the door wide open for third party happenings in that department.
This is a very good article and even though it clears up the Barr involvement, it still leaves the doors open for other idiosyncrasies that may be hanging out there. I haven't seen any measurable proof about when he was approached by mossad....... so, I will assume that this connection worked it's way in through other family members at a young age. I would have to see a viable family tree to peg it completely.
None-the-less, excellent find. Thanks so much.
warmest,
crosby
I agree with you about his background. There are still a lot of unanswered questions, especially when it comes to the early years and precisely where he “took the wrong turn” in life. It’s very possible that he had been “groomed” for this role from a very early age. Hopefully, people will keep digging and figure this out.
I have a professional background in genealogical research and know that it is not unusual for a woman to get pregnant by one man in that era and quickly marry another in order to “avoid disgrace.” I’ve also seen instances where a prominent person will father an illegitimate child and place the baby with a family who then raise the baby as their own. Although less likely, records can be doctored. Anything is possible, especially where money and reputation are concerned.
It can take years to research a family history. I did come across this article that goes into more depth about his family and provides a chart of names. One would have to look at primary documents to verify all of this, but it does give a person a place to start—some names to look into. It appears as if some of his ancestors came from Russia and Lithuania. I believe the Bronfmans came from Russia as well.
See:
http://marycumminsrealestatemarycummins.blogspot.com
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You probably already know this. Some families keep exceptional records both abroad and state side if the case fits their family. The Trumps probably do have a family book like my bio-father has. I come from a line on my male side that had a seat in high court or some elite circles way back when tracing to the Werner or Warner clan, and later the Wernick or Warnick clan. Whatever they were, fighting knights, soldiers or something they were not elite but lower mid court I'd say and their family records is way thicker than a bible by far. So if a family of this status kept records of 'breeding' like my male side I'm sure Trump's family had to have also. I have found a lot more myself researching my own male side I knew little about both from family I've met that shared the book and more but also from looking up various spellings from various lands for the same name. You can for example, with my names find that quite a bit more comes up with names when you look of not just Werner but Warner and other variations of the same sir name. Wernick had so many I can't recall all of them but from Germany Wernicke to Ireland's Warnick and Warnock and McGullivernock clans they are all traced to the same original and they all add info.
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I have remained silent for the past three or four months because I want my focus to be on research. I can do this on my own, but it’s nice to have a place where I can share what I find with other people. As the old saying goes, two or more heads are better than one! I have always appreciated that about Avalon. 😊
Given a choice, I would prefer to share my information with non-members as well—if only because I was once a non-member who “lurked” from the sidelines.
As someone who has worked in the research field for many years, I believe in the free flow of information. It goes without saying that some of this information may later prove to be inaccurate, biased, outdated, misleading etc. In that regard, it’s like panning for gold. You just have to sift through everything. It’s truly part of the research process. I know I wouldn’t be impressed with a library that kept part of its collection off-limits, even if it was determined to be for “my own good.”
I don’t see myself as being part of a cult or movement. I’m not waving any flags here. If I was forced to take a side in anything, it would be against those who hurt children—against global trafficking rings.
I don’t think I’ve infiltrated anything. In fact, I was invited to join the forum. Since then, I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful of anyone. I hope not! If I have inadvertently upset anyone by posting on the Q thread, I apologize. As I’ve said, my intention was simply to share the research that I’m doing. If people want me to stop doing this and to go away, I will.
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Chanie
I have remained silent for the past three or four months because I want my focus to be on research. I can do this on my own, but it’s nice to have a place where I can share what I find with other people. As the old saying goes, two or more heads are better than one! I have always appreciated that about Avalon. 😊
Given a choice, I would prefer to share my information with non-members as well—if only because I was once a non-member who “lurked” from the sidelines.
As someone who has worked in the research field for many years, I believe in the free flow of information. It goes without saying that some of this information may later prove to be inaccurate, biased, outdated, misleading etc. In that regard, it’s like panning for gold. You just have to sift through everything. It’s truly part of the research process. I know I wouldn’t be impressed with a library that kept part of its collection off-limits, even if it was determined to be for “my own good.”
I don’t see myself as being part of a cult or movement. I’m not waving any flags here. If I was forced to take a side in anything, it would be against those who hurt children—against global trafficking rings.
I don’t think I’ve infiltrated anything. In fact, I was invited to join the forum. Since then, I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful of anyone. I hope not! If I have inadvertently upset anyone by posting on the Q thread, I apologize. As I’ve said, my intention was simply to share the research that I’m doing. If people want me to stop doing this and to go away, I will.
For what it's worth, I'd like for you to stay. :)
It's important to understand that whisper campaigns are meant to intimidate people into submission, or compliance.
I think they have to be the bane of a moderator staff's existence, because they are insidiously damaging to a forum, and it's so difficult for a mod staff to even be aware it's happening, much less know how to stop.
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Oh, for information there are at least SEVEN new q-drops since 3426 got posted ... I'm seeing 3427 through to 3433 mostly concerning Epstein ... have at "it" eh ? ;)
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On Friday, the House of Representatives voted in favour of having military proceedings at Guantanamo Bay broadcast via the internet. Has this paved the way for the public to watch military trials online?
See: https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...guantanamo-ba/
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You probably already know this. Some families keep exceptional records both abroad and state side if the case fits their family. The Trumps probably do have a family book like my bio-father has. I come from a line on my male side that had a seat in high court or some elite circles way back when tracing to the Werner or Warner clan, and later the Wernick or Warnick clan. Whatever they were, fighting knights, soldiers or something they were not elite but lower mid court I'd say and their family records is way thicker than a bible by far. So if a family of this status kept records of 'breeding' like my male side I'm sure Trump's family had to have also. I have found a lot more myself researching my own male side I knew little about both from family I've met that shared the book and more but also from looking up various spellings from various lands for the same name. You can for example, with my names find that quite a bit more comes up with names when you look of not just Werner but Warner and other variations of the same sir name. Wernick had so many I can't recall all of them but from Germany Wernicke to Ireland's Warnick and Warnock and McGullivernock clans they are all traced to the same original and they all add info.
Yes, I think most of the prominent families have well-documented histories. The rest of us might just start out with a handful of names, maybe a place and a general time frame. From there, you start looking at the records and work your way backwards. It can take years to flesh out the details of a family tree.
As you pointed out, one of the obstacles along the way can be the misspelling of names. For one thing, a lot of the Census takers couldn’t spell or would mishear a name that was spoken in a heavy accent or would have bad handwriting that is hard to decipher etc. Also, as you’ve suggested surnames had a way of morphing from country to country.
People who “get hooked” on tracing their family roots are not unlike Q researchers. Both groups enjoy the research process and chasing each new clue. They share an intensity of purpose—a single-minded focus that can be hard for others to understand. 😊
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...hope someone will step in for Kiwi Elf and post Q, dont know how he did the correct links/format otherwise would try but maybe someone else knows how? The latest Q post sounds like he was talking directly to us... what was shared to me by another did not sound promising on our champions return but now keep hoping..
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Jul 14 2019 15:21:25 (EST)
FAKE NEWS attacks only validate the message (OLD GUARD threatened).
Think size & scope of continual MSM attack(s).
GODFATHER III
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Does anyone else realize now how much PAUL stood in the gap?