Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
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nearing
I know there are a few of us who look forward to this event as I am one of them. But the vast majority of people are just frightened by this and this man is playing on that. He doesn't speak of the Golden Age or ascension or a 'cleansing'. He is not helping those of us happy about this and trying to keep other's fear in check.
I hear you, Nearing. I think we all need to consider the fact that the speaker's identity is veiled, and the beginning credits are attributed to 'Bo Knows Entertainment'
@ the Truth is in There...for anyone with children, this man's words are definitely not an 'uplifting' message.
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
I agree with you in everything but one point:
I red somewhere (I'll check later) that this brown dwarf has approximately the same size of Jupiter, not four times bigger.
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Icecold
I give up........ :attention:
Stop. Desist.
1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.
2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:
3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:
4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!
5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.
6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.
7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.
8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.
Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.
Thank you.
In my previous post I forgot to quote this.
I'm sorry: I'm new to forums.:o
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
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alsiani
I agree with you in everything but one point:
I red somewhere (I'll check later) that this brown dwarf has approximately the same size of Jupiter, not four times bigger.
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Icecold
I give up........ :attention:
Stop. Desist.
1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.
2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:
3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:
4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!
5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.
6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.
7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.
8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.
Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.
Thank you.
In my previous post I forgot to quote this.
I'm sorry: I'm new to forums.:o
What I have read is that it has 4 times the 'mass' if Jupiter, not size. Which means it's VERY heavy and has a lot of gravitational and magnetic pull.
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
just an idea. remember the swiss 10 francs note with the image of our solar system on sept 26? there's a white spot where nobody seems to know what it is. what if that is planet x/the red star kachina and comet elenin the blue star kachina heralding its arrival?
if planet x is coming from that direction it would make sense that earlier this year till around april/may it appeared near the sun in certain parts of the world. also, there may have been an alignment with planet x, the sun and earth on march 11.
now, if planet x moves slowly, as the zetas say it does, that would mean there would be another alignment with earth between planet x and the sun later this year, around october 28 (end of the mayan calendar according to calleman) with massive earth changes and then, in august 2012 (end of magnetic trimester according to the zetas), when planet x has moved further towards the sun and earth made a turn around the sun, planet x would make a close pass between the earth & sun resulting in the predicted pole shift.
until that time earth changes would steadily increase because planet x comes ever closer, with emphasis on oct 2011 as mentioned before and march 2012 when earth aligns again with the sun and planet x and both pull from one side.
i could be wrong of course and probably am but it's the only explanation i've found for that white spot, for the kachinas, for the end of the mayan calendar according to calleman, for the alignments & earthquakes, for the zeta's predictions, for the planet x + sun pics & videos and for the basic time line all tied together.
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Hi all
I dont know if this is significant or not but i noticed that one of the crop circles seems to show the solar system on 11 sept 2011 but you need to flip the universe upside down (pole shift?) to get it to fit . This is the date that ELENIN is closest to the sun and of coarse the 10th anniversary of 911.
The crop circle (Allington 2, 28 june11) is showing somthing happening to the earth.
http://www.wccsg.com/2011Gallery/Jun...S/Default.aspx
What do you think?
love kevlar
*UPDATE* -Just Realised that ELENIN spelt backwards looks like NINE ELEven
http://www.wccsg.com/Portals/6/2011_...ngtonOH800.jpg
love kevlar
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Thanks for posting the crop circle.
Most crop circles are *way* too complex to be hoaxes (despite a few of the simple ones put up for fun).
From a geometrical standpoint, this one looks easy to construct and with elenin getting so much buzz *perhaps* bears scrutiny.
One of the ways to tell if a pattern is genuine is by examining how the crop stems are flattened. Some are damaged (as if stomped down) while others are not.
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
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Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.
The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/galler...hp?opts=movies
Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
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Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.
The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/galler...hp?opts=movies
Impressive video ... however there are some things that are fishy
What we're looking at is footage from a (web)cam ... it has nothing to do with
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a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope
So why is it mentioned ? Just to impress people and make it credible ?
I checked where Hawaii exactly is on the global Google map ...
Now the sun is rising on the left and goes to the right ... it means the camera is facing south (south-east more likely).
But Hawaii is still in the tropics belt ... the sun should be north of the tropics.
The date in the lower right hand corner says Sunday may 29th ... someone reports in the comments checking
for possible planets in this direction ... but that should be done for the right date !
I have no software to check it but it can be checked with that JPL browser too ...
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...og=0;cad=0#orb
When I go back to may 29th then a whole bunch of planets will precede the sun
Mercury, Venus and Mars almost line up west of the sun and even Jupiter a little more
to the west is in line of sight
So any one with the right software to check it precisely for that date ?
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You can the information that you need from Star Dome. You don't have to download anything and it's free.
This is the picture that I got when plugging in the data for Waimea, Hawaii were the observatory is located.
The moon is in the area but according to Heavens Above. com It was at 20% luminosity on that date.
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Hi All a quick update on last weeks Cash flow 6/7/11 Among the loads of quickfire questions thrown at him again. Then came a question from Barbara 43min.30sec of pt 3. Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....Bob continues' is a Brown Dwarf on the Way '? Ion says' NOoo we already did that'...its a 'Blue dwarf not a Brown Dwarf come on'
That was it the point is he has reffered to it as a' Blue Dwarf' for a few weaks , and likened it to the end of season one of 'The Event' when the alian planet came thru the portal and was clearly seen in the sky. So it must be either very large or come close.
I think I wrote this on one of the threads or I'm experiencing Da ja vous..LOL....The point is all the hundreds of questions asked of him , most seem correct others are uncorrobable with our current knowledge .
Has anyone else heard it called a 'Blue Dwarf' elsewhere ? ...I haven't......
As I have said frequently they are a enigma to me...If they are right ,they have been gradually disclosing everything were looking for under our noses........and I have read and watched as much as anybody on here in the
last four yrs.....There must be more than just me following them on here ? How do they come over to you ? Cheers Steve......They seem genuine to me...
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Cidersomerset
Hi All a quick update on last weeks Cash flow 6/7/11 Among the loads of quickfire questions thrown at him again. Then came a question from Barbara 43min.30sec of pt 3. Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....Bob continues' is a Brown Dwarf on the Way '? Ion says' NOoo we already did that'...its a 'Blue dwarf not a Brown Dwarf come on'
That was it the point is he has reffered to it as a' Blue Dwarf' for a few weaks , and likened it to the end of season one of 'The Event' when the alian planet came thru the portal and was clearly seen in the sky. So it must be either very large or come close.
I think I wrote this on one of the threads or I'm experiencing Da ja vous..LOL....The point is all the hundreds of questions asked of him , most seem correct others are uncorrobable with our current knowledge .
Has anyone else heard it called a 'Blue Dwarf' elsewhere ? ...I haven't......
As I have said frequently they are a enigma to me...If they are right ,they have been gradually disclosing everything were looking for under our noses........and I have read and watched as much as anybody on here in the
last four yrs.....There must be more than just me following them on here ? How do they come over to you ? Cheers Steve......They seem genuine to me...
Maybe something to do with the "blue star" or comet the Mayans are referring to?
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Its a sore fight for a half loaf !!!
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Thanks Etherios It could be ? Thats what I thought , but did not get a positive reply when he was asked....He just said its a Blue Dwarf and we will find out soon......But as theres no time he won't tell when..LOL
He can be cryptic or Direct..He won't answer Why? what? or where? questions unless he's in a good mood. LOL , so you have to structure your questions properly which is not a bad thing.
James Martinez, Bob Nevritt and Dr Carolyn Dean credentials are impressive and they help grill him everyweek, They do sell some of there products, DVD's but the bulk of the info is free.........
You have to follow the show and get into the swing of the fun to know what I mean.......The thing is if they are just making it up , they would have been exposed as frauds by now and after two years. Apart from 'Mentor' who used to email every week and say Ion was making it all up , to which mentor was always proven wrong ,they seem legit...
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Cidersomerset
Is Wormwood accociated with Elinen,Nabiru or Planet X ?...
Ion says' nope its Bitter or Better ..Bob says Bitter'? Ion does not respond....
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Revelation 8:11
the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
In dutch the name for Wormwood is Bitter ... :p !
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Openbaring 8:11
De naam van de ster was "Bitter". (A) Een derde deel van het water werd bitter; en omdat het bitter was, stierven vele mensen ervan.
I must have missed something, I have no clue what the context is (a radio show or so ?) but the remarks are confusing.
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Thanks Operator thats probably what he was referring to. Revelation 8:11 wormwood a third of the waters turned bitter....as he quotes the bible alot...
So that means the object coming in the 'Blue Dwarf' is deffinately something new according to Ion......intrigueing!!!!!
The Radio show is 'cash flow' hosted by James Martinez originally it was just a money/investment/consumor show ,
but a couple of years ago ....Ion showed up on the scene
and things got wonderfully surreal , yet plausibly Real!!!!!...LOL
I have given several full discriptions and links on several other threads of my interpretation
of them , but have been looking for others who have been listening to them , to compare
notes....but so far not making much headway...LOL..Cheers Steve..
If you are unfamilier with Bob & Ion....This is a link of them on the Ebban Ray show on the 30/6/2011......This is less chaotic than the cash flow shows which are unscripted and go all over the place......They don't go on many other shows , but Ebbans was one of the first When Ion showed up 2 years ago......
It starts about 10mins in and they behave themselves and give her a update of what they've
been talking about for the last year since they were on her show.......He explains accencion
briefly near the start about chromosone14 etc.......
http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/a...N_-_Hour_1.mp3
http://www.fivebodied.com/archives/a...N_-_Hour_2.mp3
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AlexanderLight
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Nibiru raises at 02:17 (followed by the Sun) - Video captured by The CFH observatory that hosts a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope. The observatory is located atop the summit of Mauna Kea, a 4200 meter, dormant volcano located on the island of Hawaii.
The CFH Telescope became operational in 1979. The mission of CFHT is to provide for its user community a versatile and state-of-the-art astronomical observing facility which is well matched to the scientific goals of that community and which fully exploits the potential of the Mauna Kea site.
http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/en/galler...hp?opts=movies
Impressive video ... however there are some things that are fishy
What we're looking at is footage from a (web)cam ... it has nothing to do with
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a world-class, 3.6 meter optical/infrared telescope
So why is it mentioned ? Just to impress people and make it credible ?
I checked where Hawaii exactly is on the global Google map ...
Now the sun is rising on the left and goes to the right ... it means the camera is facing south (south-east more likely).
But Hawaii is still in the tropics belt ... the sun should be north of the tropics.
The date in the lower right hand corner says
Sunday may 29th ... someone reports in the comments checking
for possible planets in this direction ... but that should be done for the right date !
I have no software to check it but it can be checked with that JPL browser too ...
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sst...og=0;cad=0#orb
When I go back to may 29th then a whole bunch of planets will precede the sun
Mercury, Venus and Mars almost line up west of the sun and even Jupiter a little more
to the west is in line of sight
So any one with the right software to check it precisely for that date ?
i'm not an expert but that planet in the video seems too large or too near, i don't think it's any of the planets you mentioned and it's definitely not the moon.
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i'm not an expert but that planet in the video seems too large or too near, i don't think it's any of the planets you mentioned and it's definitely not the moon.
Indeed, it's too large, too near and too bright to be the moon (or any other known planet in our solar system). The moon is reflecting light, while that 'thing' is emitting it's own light. ~Peace~
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AlexanderLight
Indeed, it's too large, too near and too bright to be the moon (or any other known planet in our solar system). The moon is reflecting light, while that 'thing' is emitting it's own light. ~Peace~
I was wondering that too myself but I am not so certain about it ...
When the sun comes into view the light of the first object shrinks to the background until only a smaller planet becomes visible then no longer emitting light.
The problem here is that it's difficult to compare ... if one would take a picture of the moon at night and then overexpose it it would look like the sun with no
visible details on the surface.
The fact that the light and size of the first object fades away when the sun becomes visible could give us just that, comparison.
If this object is so good visible then where is it now ? Why did they have to take footage of may 29th specifically ?
Just looking for 'reason' to clarify what we see ...
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"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken." (Mark 13:24-25)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E
https://youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D1E