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... so far as I am aware now, this detail (the corpse's name) is not worth further consideration on my part.

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Personally I differ, in that his identity is of massive importance. We have this guy on the roof shooting a gun, and now we have his corpse. Who exactly he is, what he was doing, how he managed to get so far doing it, and ultimately on whose behalf (if not alone, which I doubt), is paramount to getting to the bottom of this infamous, and, in perhaps another timeline, catastrophic event.

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How the dead person, apparent shooter, on the roof got there, and how that ties into whatever larger questions we have as to whether this was a "lone nut", who perhaps got "lucky" to get that far, or who perhaps benefited from gross (perhaps deliberately imposed by corrupt SS management) incompetence, or whether he was part of a larger conspiracy involving more substantial resources, individuals and (most likely) shooters, are definitely important questions, yes.

Perhaps someday, our analysis of those larger questions will hinge critically on whether that corpse is of a person named Crooks or Yearick or someone else. Today, given my current limited understanding, it matters not to my current analysis. That might just be because I don't yet know why it matters.

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Today, given my current limited understanding, it matters not to my current analysis. That might just be because I don't yet know why it matters.

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A fair point. But here's also another reason:

Someone is, or some are, responsible for the manslaughter of Corey Comperatore. On that point alone, it matters :flower:

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The first 3 pictures are 3 frames in a row (object first appearing between the water tower and trees at the top of the frame, moving right to left).

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Whatever it was, it was either moving fast, or quite close to the camera, to only show up in two consecutive frames, having moved that far between those two frames, while not showing at all one frame earlier or one frame later.

I'm impressed that cell phone cameras can get such reasonably sharp focus of such an object, moving at such a high angular velocity.

However I don't know squat about current common cellphone camera capabilities (C⁵ :waving:)

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Today, given my current limited understanding, it matters not to my current analysis. That might just be because I don't yet know why it matters.

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A fair point. But here's also another reason:

Someone is, or some are, responsible for the manslaughter of Corey Comperatore. On that point alone, it matters :flower:

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Figuring out what happened matters, for that reason too.

Perhaps someday, I will realize why the Crooks vs Yearick question is a critical part of figuring that out.

That someday is not this day, at least not yet today, at least not for me.

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Why is the FBI Deputy Director lying under oath about Thomas Matthew Crooks' views to Congress and the American people?

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Such behavior by the FBI certainly fits my "tin foil hat conspiracy theory nut case" biased view of the FBI.

In other words, it seems to me that the FBI commonly blames such high profile "lone nut" shootings on people who they claim come from whatever group of people they are denigrating at that time (communists, muslims, russians, terrorists, right wing extremists, conspiracy theorists, ...)

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Slim indeed. Even if there was a small gap in the glass at the bottom, it's not consistent with where the 'muzzle flash' is. Think we can rule that out.

To dispel any lingering doubt the window was shut, here's a few better quality images of the AGR building.

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The allegations, such as from John Cullens, that someone shot out a window, are allegations that someone shot out from the AGR building closest to Trump's podium. That AGR building is a single story building, and the corpse of the alleged shooter was on the roof of that single story building.

Those "better quality images of the AGR building" in your post appear to me to be of another AGR building, a two story structure that was further away from and further north of Trump's podium, and that was a bit further west than the single story building that the alleged shooter was on.

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Not an atom of evidence points to him being involved.

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... so far as I am aware now, this detail (the corpse's name) is not worth further consideration on my part.

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Well, I did notice that I had an atom of evidence in one of my many previously opened tabs on this event. So, without further consideration, here's the key image from that tab:

From the site: https://archive.vn/ojnLb
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This is probably true as Susan Crabtree is known to be friends with some members of the secret service.

https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/

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If this is a black hat operation, utilizing various agents placed in key positions of key agencies, including the Dept of Justice, the Dept of Homeland Security, the FBI, the Secret Service, ... running an operation like this with hundreds, maybe thousands of mobile phone cameras and observant eyes watching ...

... then I would expect it would be difficult to hide what really happened, and I'd expect hundreds of observations and hours of video to come forth.

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So I might try a different tactic to hide such a major operation and to keep my preferred "lone shooter" narrative credible to most people.

I might deliberately deprive the public of any "official" information on what happened for a few weeks after the event,

while supporting a couple of trusted, capable, analysts investigating all the video, observations and analyses that can be gathered, where that analysis covered in considerable detail all such evidence that was (more or less) consistent with my preferred lone shooter narrative,

while discrediting any and all "dangerous" (to the preferred narrative) evidence that came forth in fog of controversial, confused, conflicting and corrupted commentary and conspiratorial "disclosures",

while planting some more evidence and lies, supporting my preferred narrative,

while hiding or destroying what "damaging" evidence I could,

while silencing (whether by threats, bribery, blackmail, death or whatever) anyone endangering the operation.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, I could be refining my preferred narrative, so that when (after the conspiracy theory nut cases had tired of this event and moved onto the next one) the "official" story was finally presented publicly, in more detail, that official story would fit nicely with what the public had by then accepted as the truth, more or less, albeit perhaps for a few "surprises" that end up making this "official" story even more credible, such as evidence throwing a few officials "under the bus."

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Notice how Chris Martenson is doing an excellent job of requesting that anyone with possibly relevant video or evidence send it to him, and what a fine job he is doing of looking into "all" the evidence (that's "fit to print") in a sensible sounding, technically engaging manner. Mike Adams has taken a similar role, focused on analyzing the gunshot sound timings.

Notice how pretty much everything I just listed above that I might do to coverup what really happened, is either being done or might now be happening covertly.

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I recall, after spending way too many months over way too many years, analyzing 9/11, that I decided if ever I had real, live, evidence from such a milestone event, I would hide that evidence, and even any hint that I had any such evidence, from all public view, for years following ... until I figured out whom I might trust with it ... then I'd update my will and release that evidence as widely, publicly, and suddenly as I could manage ... holding nothing back.

Fortunately for me, I was not in New York City on 9/11 of 2001, nor in Dallas Texas on Nov 22, 1963, nor in Butler, PA on July 13, 2024, nor anywhere else on any other day that is likely enshrined on some Wikipedia page.

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Not an atom of evidence points to him being involved.

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... so far as I am aware now, this detail (the corpse's name) is not worth further consideration on my part.

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Well, I did notice that I had an atom of evidence in one of my many previously opened tabs on this event. So, without further consideration, here's the key image from that tab:

From the site: https://archive.vn/ojnLb
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If I was flying blind, meaning I knew nothing about the Trump event of 7/13/2024, and I was asked to give my opinion whether the guy on the left, or they guy on the right, looked more like the guy in the middle—I would say say the guy on the left.

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Now Chris has even deflected back to the single shooter theory to some degree and has turned his focus a bit more towards the LE working the area in and around those buildings.

Personally I think he is focusing more in the right direction.

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... to illustrate what bothers John Cullen after Bret Weinstein mentioned that the sound of an impact comes later, after that impact has occurred (many action movies make that mistake of explosion sounds happening at the same instant of the flash)... take notice of how long it takes Trump to react to the alleged bullet that hits his ear.... way after the sound of it is echoed through the sound system, then going the distance to the recording phone microphone... damn devilish details!

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... to illustrate what bothers John Cullen after Bret Weinstein mentioned that the sound of an impact comes later, after that impact has occurred (many action movies make that mistake of explosion sounds happening at the same instant of the flash)... take notice of how long it takes Trump to react to the alleged bullet that hits his ear.... way after the sound of it is echoed through the sound system, then going the distance to the recording phone microphone... damn devilish details!

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I am failing to parse what you're saying.

My understanding (I'm no expert here) is that these bullets, most such rounds intended to go supersonic, arrive, with their supersonic crack sound and impact damage and flash, first, and then later (the further away the actual rifle, the longer the delay), the sound of the rifle's "report" (the "bang" of the gunpowder) arrives, having traveled at a slower speed, the mere speed of sound.

How does that map into any apparent delayed reaction of Trump, or the path the sounds take through the sound system, or whatever other "damn devilish details" you have in mind?

What's the implication of your observations that apparently is obvious to you, but which I am obviously missing? What was this interaction between Cullen and Weinstein, or reaction of Cullen to Weinstein, or whatever Weinstein said to which Cullen reacted ... to which you refer?

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The Best Analysis Yet.

John Cullen (yes, him) presents his case to a top notch sniper, Clay Martin. Clay Martin was a sniper and sniper instructor, who served in both the Army and Marines. Cullen has tightened up his presentation, and gets into a clear and detailed conversation with Clay Martin on the ballistic sounds and trajectories.

The patsy (whoever it was) on the roof never took a shot. There were four shooters who did get off shots, mostly using silenced rifles and subsonic "Blackout" rounds. Clay Martin has been using just such "Blackout" rounds for ten years, and knows exactly what they sound like. He immediately and with certainty identifies their sound on the various audio clips that Cullen plays.

First both of the two visible Secret Service counter-sniper groups on the two roofs behind Trump take fire, that missed, due to the wind. This fire is coming from a tree east of the water tower, using silenced weapons and shooting subsonic "Blackout" rounds, which are big, fat, slow rounds that deflect a lot in a cross wind, perhaps explaining why those shots miss.

The patsy on the roof sticks his head up before he's supposed to, while "bad" sniper(s) are still shooting silenced, subsonic rounds at the Secret Service counter-snipers on the roofs, and the counter-sniper on the southern roof got the patsy with a head shot as soon as the patsy looks up.

The "bad" sniper in the first floor AGR room below the patsy hears the shot on the roof above him, taking out their patsy, and knows that the "bad" team still needs to have some loud AR-15 rifle sounds coming from that direction, to frame the (just killed) patsy on the roof above him, so picks up his AR-15 and shoots the first three shots that anyone heard, using no suppression and ordinary hypersonic ammo, at Trump. He's shooting a standing shot (to get above the window ledge), in a hurry, using an AR-15 rather than a sniper rifle, and he doesn't get adjusted for the 10 to 12 mph cross wind, so hits Trump's ear instead of his brain. Then that "bad" sniper fires some more silenced rounds, picks up his brass (cutting his hand on some broken glass) and washes his hand off in the bathroom sink. That hand washing accounts for the blood stain in that sink, instead of the story of two local security police looking at the patsy just before the shooting started, one of whom cut his hand when he ducked and fell after the patsy supposedly pointed his rifle at him. Then the other "bad" sniper in another tree near the fence, west of that AGR building, continues firing silenced, subsonic rounds at Trump, as the Secret Service removes Trump from the podium. Then a third Secret Service sniper team, that we haven't known about before, takes out the "bad" sniper in the water tower, who was positioned to shoot at Trump's limo whenever Trump's Secret Service would be getting him into his limo.

This was a serious operation. Four "real" snipers shooting silenced subsonic rounds at the visible Secret Service teams on the two roofs, and at Trump, and one "patsy" sniper who got his brains blown out by a sniper in one of those two SS teams, before the patsy got off the first "everyone could hear" AR-15 rounds at Trump.

After hearing most of what Cullen has to say, at the 1:30:40 mark, Clay Martin says "That is absolute insane ... makes perfectly logical sense."

Multiple Shooters? | John Cullen & Clay Martin (TPC #1,538)


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A Secret Service counter sniper sent an email Monday night to the entire Uniformed Division (not agents) saying he will not stop speaking out until "5 high-level supervisors (1 down) are either fired or removed from their current positions." The counter sniper also said the agency "SHOULD expect another assassination attempt" before November and complained that he is no longer proud to be a USSS counter sniper after leadership failed the officers at the Trump rally in Butler on 7/13.

"This agency NEEDS to change," the sniper wrote in the email. "If not now, WHEN?

• "The NEXT assassination in 30 days?"

"Sadly we have fallen short for YEARS," the counter sniper lamented. "We just look good doing it. I have conveyed these thoughts to not only supervisors (to include the current Captain of CS, but those responsible for training us (SOTS/CS). Only to be brushed off as those with less experience somehow knew more than me."

"The team I was once proud to be a part of, is something I have to somehow hide as I move into my next career," the counter sniper continued. "Who wants to hire a USSS CS guy who failed? That's the public perception I'm not faced with. The USSS CS team is a stain I will never be able to cleanse."

He concluded with these two lines: "The motto of the USSS...CYA. And every supervisor is doing it right now."

The agency quickly deleted the email, a knowledgeable source told RealClearPolitics.

Full email with name redacted below:

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Trump seems to have had a delayed reaction to "sound", not to impact... impact happens first, in short. To be compared to what happened along the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher.

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From the site: https://archive.vn/ojnLb
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/att...6&d=1722382568

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These drawings are hardly scientific. Consider too the velocity of the round and the likely damage it did, distorting the skull and the features of the face. In the death-image it looks like his teeth have been blown out of his mouth.

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For me it's one hundred percent irrefutable that this guy:

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is the same as this guy (loitering at scene shortly before shooting), he has the same glasses, same ear, same face, same jut to the chin, same guy:

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And he's the same as this guy:

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and who ended up as this guy:
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