WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

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Posted by 1212is24

Anyone else low key hoping Russia somehow "win" here?

I've been listening to this explanation by Putin about what's going on and he seems a lot more sincere than anyone I'm supposed to be rooting for.

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Kind of, but not exactly. Russian victory at war is just one of those facts, like leaves turn brown in autumn.

I see it far less now as about Russia/Ukraine, but, how much of the corruption in our system can be exposed and punished. That is all that matters! It wouldn't matter much to me if techno-China took over the world, or, if we went back to the stone ages starting over. Of course, there is nothing over here I hope/root/cheer for even slightly, and consider myself an uninformed victim of the theft of taxes, etc., and have hardly ever found anything true or sincere dribbling from the lips of "those in the know".

Is there something like an anti-CIA mindcontrol assassin? As in that person who from birth has been programmed to lash out at and dispose of the federal government? I have no freedom, I am subliminally commanded to keep doing this. To the extent that looking at all the representatives and departments and so on, those people all look like sick, dangerous animals to me, which, instinctually I would just smash. You know what I mean? They all have porphyry since 1720. Mr. Putin on the other hand would make me stop in my tracks and listen.

If one has ever heard the ensigns on a ship about to mutiny, it sounds like this.

My empath-o-meter, so to speak, does not blink at Putin, Dr. Assad, Sayeed Nasrallah and so on. They have better things to talk about and are better at saying them. The only thing that has repelled me more than the American press, is, perhaps the British one. I am afraid Australia probably does have actually stupider news events happening, due to even spine-less-er politicians, but I don't want to let their press speak for itself lest it compete with her English speaking cousins.

The U. S. S. R. was not much good, but, actual Russian nationalism is amazing. Pretty much the same for Belarus. Intelligent and respectable. There is no way I would "consider them my enemy" or assume they are lying about everything. That label has been pasted on the wrong target!

I would not also presume them to be really big friends or do any special favors. But in terms of living on the planet together, that is all we can ask. Workable terms for "interests", which are not social or emotional friendships. Instincts writ large.

If you do not handle instinct wisely, violence is usually the first thing that comes out of it.

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For me Putin seems like the lesser of evils for sure.

https://twitter.com/dgaytandzhieva/s...347BSz61E6iWsw

'Ukraine is bombing Ukrainians'
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7gxJr6b9PvM

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Posted by Bill Ryan

He explains that the Russians are doing this purposefully so that demoralized Ukrainian soldiers can take advantage of this and desert.

Significantly, he also reports that the reported shelling of civilian corridors is being done by the Ukrainians themselves.

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Yes, that is a significant factor.

There may be something like the Syrian "amnesty": an offer to put down your gun and go home or join our ranks. There might, possibly, be some of this for Ukranian nationals. Not so if you came in from elsewhere.

A lot of negative feedback said it would ruin Syria's National Guard, etc., but it turned out to be highly successful.

So, yes, some "terrorists" might escape with civilians and re-group later, but that is easier than keeping them all in one place.

Yes, Ukraine state may inhibit some of the moves. "Exodus" has not really happened in these areas.

That whole principle of making someone give up or switch sides makes a really big difference. In Syria, only the heavily religiously indoctrinated refused it. It will be interesting to see if "neo-Nazi resolve" compares to that of "self-styled mujahideen".

Exactly why the Ukranian military would pretend to keep going, or, anyone would support it, is baffling. Chances are that every day that a commander does not surrender is going to lead to a few "walk offs".

Anyone?? Or hocus pocus… ?

Putin just made the statement to his military leaders, “friday evening will be beautiful for the whole world”

, “friday evening will be beautiful for the whole world, we have started down a road of no return” the same day they are cutting their internet connection to the world. When this goes public, many will freak if they are paying attention. All us agencies are guessing a mass hypersonic weapons attack, or a massive cyber hit on the us and uk at the same time. Be prepared by noon friday, that will be 8 pm moscow time. I’m giving you the info as it was just sent to me from an agent in tel aviv. Take it for what it’s worth.

Posted @0012 hrs 3-10-22

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3X9wuywv1wQ

Viking

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...90593937002496

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...27311305805824

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Anyone?? Or hocus pocus… ?

Putin just made the statement to his military leaders, “friday evening will be beautiful for the whole world”

, “friday evening will be beautiful for the whole world, we have started down a road of no return” the same day they are cutting their internet connection to the world. When this goes public, many will freak if they are paying attention. All us agencies are guessing a mass hypersonic weapons attack, or a massive cyber hit on the us and uk at the same time. Be prepared by noon friday, that will be 8 pm moscow time. I’m giving you the info as it was just sent to me from an agent in tel aviv. Take it for what it’s worth.

Posted @0012 hrs 3-10-22

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3X9wuywv1wQ

Viking

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I haven't seen any source for this "Friday" thing beyond the rather dubious Hal Turner, the other statement is self evident & they are already acting on it. I very much doubt there is going to be some huge attack even though they have changed Russian law to allow "first strike" with nukes ( all these years & no one ever mentioned they couldn't do that lol) .

I bet it's going to be an info dump that will make wikileaks & the Panama papers look like an episode of Sesame street, in fact I think it might make what has so far seemed fiction with the "Q" stuff go live.

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/st...01869648015363

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I bet it's going to be an info dump that will make wikileaks & the Panama papers look like an episode of Sesame street, in fact I think it might make what has so far seemed fiction with the "Q" stuff go live.

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Ha. Yes, it might be a lot of fun if Russia released an avalanche of documents, audio and video on

• JFK
• 9/11
• Roswell and established ET contact
• Classified US advanced technology
• The moon landings
• Covid origins
• The stolen 2020 US election
• Hunter Biden, Hillary, Epstein, Maxwell and many more
• ... and that might just be the start of it.
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How Russia Could Attack Britain - Ukraine War Special (13:12)
The video is made by Dr. Mark Felton, a well-known British historian, who runs a 'famous' WW II YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/c/MarkFeltonProductions/videos

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WNRUP-T01Ig

interesting commentary at
https://thesaker.is/the-opinion-of-a...ine-must-read/

The opinion of a professional about the special operation in Ukraine (MUST READ!)
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Note by the Saker: one of our readers today sent me a very interesting document in Russian. First, I thought “more of the same” (5th columnist stuff) but then I started reading it and I changed my mind. This was clearly written by a military professional, his name is Alexander Dubrovsky. It was posted here and here. So I literally *begged* our new Russian translators to make even a “quick and dirty translation” because I wanted to get the info to you as fast as possible (in the meantime, I was writing this). And one of them did! (Thank you N.!!!).

While Dubrovsky’s views are not “Holy Writ” his testimony and analysis is, I think, priceless, especially for those who live in Zone A. We don’t have to agree with every letter, but I urge you to read it very carefully and in full. I consider this text so important that I will post it under “guest analyses” and not “Saker Community translations” because I want to give it max visibility. All our articles under “guest analyses” are written for the Saker blog or by permission, never taken off the Internet without the author’s permission. But, as the ancient Russian saying goes, “rules are for the cause and not the cause for the rules” :-)

Kind regards

Andrei

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As promised, I am not inventing anything more about the special operation in Ukraine, giving the floor to professionals.

The source is unknown to me; it came via WhatsApp. It is published without notes and without editing, only some places highlighted by me.

Subjective opinion.

(Let’s try to make sense of the situation without hysteria and insults.)

It’s hard for everyone. Our guys are dying. Citizens of Ukraine are dying. But the hardest part is for the military, acting both in reserve, both Russian and Ukrainian, who have gone through “hot” conflicts. I’m grinding my teeth from impotence, I’m not personally sure — could I have carried out the Commander-in-Chief’s order had I been in the ranks today. To minimize civilian casualties is understandable, we are one people. And how to try not to cause critical damage to the APU — I have little idea within the tactics of my own unit.

I categorically object to the publication of the number of combat losses until the operation has entered its final phase. This is a gift for someone else’s information war, a trump card in the hands of the enemy, the dispersal of false information among outright alarmists inside the country: “they all lie, hide, underestimate”, “no war”, “mothers, don’t let your sons”, “how I want peace”, “how much more blood can be shed”…

You can and should. Soldiers and heroes are dying. Who came to the army not to polish paving stones with their shoe soles, but to defend the Motherland. Even at the cost of his own life. This was a mistake of the General Staff, the people should clearly understand the objectives of the operation, its necessity, the inevitability of victims. Not the current price.

It sounds cruel, but such is the harsh military reality. We will wipe our own and women’s tears after the Victory, we will bow to every widow, mother, bride, sister for the feat of their men.

The first stage of the operation…

We underestimated the enemy’s power of informational, ideological, psychological resistance, they were waiting for us. Literally on the very first day, with one click of American bloody fingers, they deprived us of the support of the civilian population and those AFU units ready to become neutral. Millions of dollars, thousands of IT guys, global media corporations cut Ukraine off from any objective information, it stank in our country.

And our main losses were in the first three days. Now they will be rapidly reduced. Peacekeeping and humanitarian operations, like the Crimean one— are no longer carried out by the Russian army. The fighters received other orders, got involved, got angry, regrouped, any hopes for active support from the civilian population and those parts of the AFU who had changed their mind were dispelled.

There were few flowers and bread loaves to be seen, the people have been crushed by propaganda and lies, intimidated into insanity by the Nazis. Another important point was missed in the calculations — almost 600 thousand Ukrainians have passed through the ATO zone in the Donbas since 2014, today they have replenished the territorial defense everywhere, many have something to fear. Especially in the wake of fakes about executions without trial by the ATO.

Can you imagine what, during a year of service there, the Nazis stuffed into their heads – gave them the opportunity to shoot at the settlements of “quilted jackets and colorados” with impunity, to mock the civilian population there. So, the calculation for the help of locals and APU was inaccurate, the cancer in Ukrainian society is simply monstrous. But… we will cure it.

If we explain our tactics of the first days… this is a creatively reworked “reconnaissance by combat” of the Great Patriotic War. Only with a deep and rapid penetration into the Nazi-occupied territory. We provoked the activity of the enemy with tactical groups, deliberately drawing out parts of the APU and the National Guard from their locations. With a small number withstanding the terrible counterattacks of tanks and armored vehicles, of a superior in number motorized infantry.

Sometimes it was impossible to suppress the “Grads”, artillery and mortars hidden in residential neighborhoods that were nailing you. Urban areas could not be cleaned methodically in combat formations, causing supporting fire, attack helicopters, sappers, flamethrowers, tanks to carry machine-gun emplacements in houses and social infrastructure facilities.

This is a war unfamiliar to us veterans. Especially when the sky is under your full control, airfields are packed with attack aircraft and bombers, operational and tactical missile systems are in service, there is a lot of heavy artillery. Now it has become clear even to civilians: the correct name for what is happening truly is “a special military operation for denazification.” And the demilitarization of Nezalezhnaya was completed by the end of the third day.

The APU, as a single, manageable and effective structure, has ceased to exist. Today, there are dozens of groups of different numbers isolated from each other, hiding in cities and towns. No centralized supply, no air support, no approach of reinforcements. They are not able to act within the framework of any plans of the Ukrainian General Staff. Just crowds of armed men with orders to stand to the death.

The main groups “North” and “East” were beheaded and deprived of command — these are 22 brigades, which had been entrusted with the honorable duty to drown Donbass in blood at the beginning of March. We beat them to it by a week or two, starting our own special operation. Now 150 thousand people (together with national soldiers) are marinated in “cauldrons”, cut off from each other. For a second — this was done by smaller Russian forces… and in five days.

There is no organized resistance in other operational areas. Separate parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), national battalions, sabotage groups. Everyone acts at their discretion, with varying degrees of activity. There is no way to move in columns, regroup, replenish ammunition, fuel, equipment even in local warehouses, everything is systematically destroyed by high-precision weapons and aircraft.

In a week or two, 80% of the AFU will turn into detachments completely devoid of ammunition, fuel, medicines, and food. Mentally and physically exhausted, without a unified command, goals and objectives. For the army, this is a terrible thing – despondency and decay. Especially for the Ukrainian, which is held by fear, propped up by Bandera detachments. Servicemen fear for the fate of their families in the rear.

The second stage of the operation…

Recognizably, the Syrian scenario. A neutral or terrorist-fearing population, among which it is almost impossible to identify militants. The Russian Army does not take such settlements – it surrounds cities with Bandera national battalions. Soon we will observe buses and “export tours” in the direction of the Western region. As soon as they are “ripe” without any support and help from outside.

In other places, cities are taken into semi-encirclement, thereby inviting the defenders to leave the territory on their own. No organized military columns, heavy equipment – all these goods are being destroyed. Individually, expensive. Yes, there is a danger of the appearance of a large number of sabotage groups, however, strategically three main tasks of the special operation are being solved: minimizing losses among the civilian population and infrastructure, our units and the army of Ukraine.

For the Russian and Ukrainian military to be cutting each other up with rapture is much too a luxurious gift for Washington and the Euro-Reich. The Bandera’s “partisan detachments” will get on your nerves, but the idea of the command is not bad. They will become legitimate prey for counter-terror detachments, military police and Ramzan Kadyrov’s men from the National Guard. Who do not take terrorist prisoners, they wipe them out… wherever they may find them. Denazification in the literal sense of the word.

An even sadder fate awaits the numerous mercenaries of the EuroReich, from which they form not military units (no time), but sabotage and tactical groups. Our General Staff has already stated that it does not consider them combatants with all the ensuing consequences, no conventions on prisoners of war apply here. I am sure that a special, cruel and purposeful hunt will be conducted for these “soldiers of fortune”. Poor devils…

The third stage of the operation.

I will not tell you in detail how and where the fighting unfolds, there is enough information from professional experts in the public domain. But everything is happening strictly according to plans, we have not even started transferring reserves, and they are standing in columns in the border areas. Losses are not just tolerable (from a military statistical point of view) — insignificant. Not a single unit has been allocated for re-formation or rest, which means it is fully combat-ready.

Look at the map, estimate the distances, marches, constant clashes, regrouping, maneuvering for tens of kilometers, and remember – our guys are opposed by the third largest army in Europe and extremely motivated Nazi formations. We need to tighten up the rear, rest elementary, maintain equipment, perform a bunch of previously unforeseen actions.

There is no need to pressure anyone, to demand more decisive actions – Flags of Victory over Mariupol, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkov, Odessa, and even more so, useless Kiev with its three million panicked, propaganda-pumped citizens. The objectives of the operation are strategy and tactics – in this completely new page in the art of war, haste is unacceptable.

My classmate at the Academy asked yesterday in a personal post:

Why is military aid to Ukraine not destroyed right at the arrival airport?

Why is it even possible for NATO transporters to visit the airspace of Ukraine?

Do you have a feeling that our diplomats are beginning to drain the efforts of the army? … All sorts of bad thoughts are wandering around in my head.

According to point number three. There will be no drain, all the goals of the special operation will be fulfilled. This is categorically repeated every day by the hardened Lavrov, and Putin announced yesterday. The French “peacemaker” Macron is all washed up with his mediation. And Medinsky in Belovezhskaya Pushcha is subtly mocking the metrosexuals from the Ukrainian delegation. There’s no one there to talk to.

Look at the brave Commander-in-Chief Ze, how he looks. Complete disintegration of the personality under the influence of drugs. The Americans will not allow him to negotiate and his own Nazis will kill him. The task is different – to completely destroy the country, drown it in chaos, so there will be nothing left over for anyone.

The special operation does not stop, there will be no more delays. Every day of delay categorically harms us, unplanned diplomatic, political, economic and military problems appear. Only speed and onslaught, until in the West they begin to assess the situation with a cool head.

About flying transporters with NATO symbols delivering weapons. This is impossible, the sky over the Nezalezhnaya and the south of Russia is closed for flights. They will make ground deliveries from Poland. And we will not destroy such convoys with “humanitarian aid”. Why, you ask? Better ask another question — who exactly is in power in Ukraine?

Outright Nazis. They took millions of civilians hostage in cities without humanitarian corridors, drove terrified people into basements and subway stations. Poisoning people with lies about “Russian atrocities”, mass shootings, executions, violence, carpet bombing. They place civilians with machine guns near strategic command and control facilities. As in Kiev at the SBU building, closely adjacent to the St Sofia Cathedral.

Zelensky’s curators and Bandera battalions are staging a humanitarian catastrophe, leaving the towns and villages of Donbass and blowing up everything: bridges, substations, pumping stations. Remember the liberation of Ukraine and 1945, the agony of the Third Reich. The quote of the demoniac, issued in the orders on the destruction of the entire infrastructure of Germany: “if the war is lost, it absolutely does not matter that the people will die.”

It is useful to know history in order to predict the behavior of the Nazis. Such is the ideology, social norms of life, worldview.

So, military columns will not be destroyed for three reasons. Firstly, these are trophies. Secondly, weapons will not get to the combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions of the South-East — the addressees are sitting in “cauldrons”. Thirdly, everything will be transported by ordinary civilian trucks, the rear transport of the AFU units is together with its parts, or destroyed in fleets.

Calculate and hit container trucks? Yes, you can. Just keep in mind — all the roads to the border checkpoints with “kind-hearted Europe” are clogged with columns of cars of fleeing Ukrainians for hundreds of kilometers. The traffic there is terrible. There are women and children in the cars. And Poland and Hungary did not move the inspection points into the depths of their territories, did not increase the checkpoint capacity with additional personnel.

That is, Ukrainian border guards with their “colleagues” keep people waiting for days to cross the border. Continue to describe the scenario that Kiev and Washington are counting on? Or can you figure out for yourself what kind of TV picture the whole “civilized world” expects? They dream that bloodthirsty Russians will start bombing civilian cars… or the railway.

But it is hard to believe in such scenarios, it is clear to everyone – Ukraine is completely lost, no amount of weapons will help it anymore. But some parts will definitely be delivered to Lvov, mercenaries and ideological Banderites will receive them. And then in groups proceed to commit sabotage, intimidate local administrations across the country, try to disrupt our communications and supply lines.

But this is another special operation, a police one. One that Ukrainians themselves are able to carry out with minimal Russian help, as they get over their shock. This is their land, they live here. Announce a reward of five thousand dollars for an anonymous denunciation — in a day all saboteurs and partisans will end. This is the kind of country it is.

But we’ll make it sooner…

I want to reassure you, for the twelfth day our guys are operating in a different operational and tactical reality, losses will rapidly decrease. If earlier there was a strict order not to cause even hypothetical harm to civilians, civilian objects… today it has been modified. In one sentence: “not to the detriment of the personnel of the units.” As a military man, I am completely satisfied: now the humanitarian sensitivities are over – real work will go on.

Fired at a column – in response will follow the entire military-technical menu. Such orders only work that way. Will the civilian population suffer? Yes, some losses are inevitable, but not through our fault. We do not storm cities according to Regulations, but bypass or surgically act with special forces, as in Kharkov. With the use of previously completely unknown tactics of urban combat by night maneuver groups. Let’s talk about this separately.

Let the Ukrainians pickle themselves in the cities, digesting the Banderites who have settled in and the “territorial battalions” fooled by Nazi propaganda. Who can no longer cope with looters there, never mind the “reflection of aggression”. This is not our problem now, no matter how cruel the words may sound.

The final turning point will come after the cleansing of Kharkov, blocking or taking Odessa. All the heroic self-defense forces of other settlements will dissolve by themselves, obvious signs of a humanitarian catastrophe are already visible in the surrounded cities. The fog, when it is completely fake, subsides most quickly in the dark, invigorating coolness and on an empty stomach.

The population is not morally ready to stand to the last. Ukrainian social networks are already full of messages from places where local administrations remained after the arrival of the Russian Army, food is being delivered smoothly, street lighting is on, local police control the streets. With each new day, the fake hysteria will subside, the thought will come to the drugged heads: what next?

Will the encircled Banderites begin to commit atrocities in their impotent anger? Well, Ukrainians should also carry this cross on their own. Of course, we will try to do everything to rescue children and the elderly. But Putin will not allow to bear sensitive losses, this is not that war.

It was not us who raised the fiend of hell, nurtured it, allowed it to seize power and hostages in the person of an entire nation. It was not us, who armed them and sent them to kill Donbass, taught them to hate Russians. Criminal indifference and complicity is also a punishable act. Not by us, by life itself.”

I agree that in some places it is very cynical, but this is only from the point of view of a civilian. Any military action –that is a different reality…

ТГ «СпокойноМаша»

Alexander Dubrovsky

https://alex-o-mire

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYJ1uWgb7o

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This was clearly written by a military professional, his name is Alexander Dubrovsky.
ТГ «СпокойноМаша»

Alexander Dubrovsky

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Not saying i disagree with what was written

But "Alexander Dubrovsky? and "Спокойно, Маша" (Calm down, Masha) or (Be quiet, Masha) ?

Dubrovsky is a book written by Alexander Pushkin

https://www.amazon.com/Dubrovsky-Ale.../dp/5050011701

There is a quote wrongly attributed to that book, it says something like "Calm down, Masha, i'm Dubrovsky". It is not part of the book but lots of people repeat it just as such. It became "true" after a while even if the book just says "I'm Dubrovsky"

So this is not a real name and that he signed it with that quote is either signal of being a fake and making fun of people, or just covering for his real identity

Not saying either one, i don't know. But just thought you may want to know this because the article says that's the soldier's name :)

I mean it could be someone faking it because of this joke around that quote:

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- Calm down, Masha, I'm Dubrovsky.

Impact, strangled scream and male bass:

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But who knows, he has some truths in there for sure

I did a search and I found nothing on poutine's letter to the world in English, it's curious, because it has been shared several times on the networks in French

Dear citizens of the world, I greet you.

International news has been rich in events since last October. You have certainly read, heard, a certain number of things, sometimes true, sometimes totally hackneyed. I understand that the offensive that my country is currently waging on Ukraine gives rise to several interpretations. But I am going to enlighten you, ever so slightly, not only on my motives, but on the conduct of world affairs in general. I will be brief, concise, so be focused.

I come to power in a bloodless country, devastated by the humiliating defeat suffered by the West, which not only succeeded in breaking up the empire that had existed for more than half a century, but also in integrating the sister Republics in his camp. The economy is down, people are struggling to make ends meet, no one respects the Russians anymore, whose President is a recognized alcoholic. The Russian Federation, at the beginning of the 21st Century, is the worst manifestation of what a non-State is.

From the outset, faced with the observation of the military and economic weakness of my country, I understood the need to work in good harmony with the victors. I therefore ask for my country to join the great military organization bringing together the countries of Europe and America, convinced that in cooperation and understanding, we could together create a safer world without harmful hegemony. But George Bush, President of the USA, answers me in the negative. The reason is very simple: his country does not want an alliance with another country which could eventually compete with it militarily.
I understand then that the past will not be erased as easily as I thought, quite naively. Above all, I have seen over the years that the West, led by the United States, has no intention of letting the world run free, contrary to the promises of a free and civilized world that it brandished for the needs of his cause.

In reality, behind this democratic facade, hides the tacit will to impose a system of values, its system of values, on the rest of the planet, without distinction of civilization, history, culture... I understand that the West simply tries to fight the dictatorship of others (the one that does not suit him) by his own dictatorship.

These observations lead me to react accordingly, because if nothing is done, the great civilization which is that of my Russia, will be dissolved, relegated to the drawers of history, from which it will only be taken out to teach children something they will never need in life. I therefore decided to give back to the Russians the feeling of national pride which must be the basis of any emancipation project, and which is sorely lacking in African countries in particular. Russians must once again feel proud to belong to the greatest country in the world!
For this, strengthening military capabilities is essential, because even if we inherited nuclear weapons after the breakup of the USSR as the main Republic, our military skills suffered a great blow with the economic and social crisis that almost decimated the country. The military project being completed, I embark on the path of rebuilding the economy, to make it stable and strong. Gone are the sovkhozes, the kolkhozes, and other outdated initiatives of the Soviet era! From now on, Russia adopts the market economy, it must live with the times, without being swallowed up.

In terms of strategy, although my country is ultimately surrounded by potential enemies, I maintain a certain serenity about its security. However, I do not hesitate to publicly denounce the global hegemonic will of the USA which, very often, and in defiance of the international law that many evoke, acts in a way that does not allow a glimpse of a peaceful global future.

Why did they go to war in Iraq, thousands of miles from home?
Why did they decide unilaterally, and despite the reluctance of other partners, within the framework of NATO, to defenestrate the Libyan regime, which is nevertheless stable and important for the stability of North Africa and the Sahel?
Why did they need to divide Sudan?
What was the need to hasten the fall of the Syrian regime and openly destroy a country that had asked for nothing?

In less than 20 years, the Americans and their European followers have been the cause of so many deaths, that one is logically entitled to wonder - unless one clearly refuses to reflect - if democracy and the values ​​so vaunted should be exported in such bloodbaths.

Ah! Solzhenitsyn, where are you? To the Archipelago of the Gulag, you could have opposed The civilized savagery of the free world! I wager that our country would not have lost out.

In this new world of civilized savages, does not my Russia, having developed military capabilities, have a say? It is surprising to note the anti-Russian and anti-Chinese speeches of the former colonial powers in Africa, when their former colonies, which have become independent, wish to cooperate, according to the provisions of international law, which are opposed only to my Russia, with the latter or with China. The rejection by the European Union of the Chinese project of the new Silk Roads, which should cross some European countries, is significant of this complex attitude towards the other. If colonial Europe considers certain regions as zones of influence in which others should not fit, why should I be forbidden to do the same in my near abroad?

In 2008, faced with the sudden expansionist impulse of an insignificant leader of a former vassal republic, should my Russia remain silent and take it upon herself?

Faced with the programmed defenestration of the Syrian regime by the USA and their eternal Israeli ally, shouldn't my country have to intervene? If for Libya, we were not reactive enough, for Syria we decided to act. Who could blame us?

Faced with the disorder organized in Ukraine by the Ukrainians themselves, unable to agree on the line to give their country, divided between Europhiles and Russophiles, shouldn't my Russia have to intervene to try to put an end to the conflict, especially since the regular army had decided to target the Russophile populations, thus leaving the risk of genocide hanging over?

But this is not the time for whining, because on the other side of the wall, hatred is tenacious, and old demons are active. Indeed, the old Biden, who moreover called me all the names of birds, decided to create an artificial disorder on the old continent. While since 2015 there has been a relative calm in Ukraine, in the ideological and military conflict between East and West, this gentleman offered to add a layer by urging the Ukrainian leader, a famous comedian it seems, to position themselves vis-à-vis my great Russia as little Nicolas Sarkozy and his cronies did with the insignificant Georgian leader. It seems that the lessons of history are not learned, because whoever provokes my Russia, takes the ire of my missiles.

Despite holding several rounds of negotiations, nothing helped. The Americans, whose hatred of my Russia has never waned despite the end of the Cold War and the indisputable – although logically disputed – hegemony they have acquired over the world, have decided not to not listen to our legitimate demands and proceed with forceps, the new provocation being to support Ukraine's request to join NATO, in the name of international law with variable geometry. As a result, they unfailingly accept the idea of ​​positioning their military arsenal on the western border of my country, something which in 1962 in Cuba, in the opposite direction, had made the world fear a nuclear war, so much had the Americans proclaimed their refusal to see the Soviet military arsenal on its border. Americanized international law did not exist for Cuba in those days!

To overcome this problem, I proposed a very simple solution, which was already used during the Cold War: the constitution of Ukraine as a neutral state, on the model of Finland at the time. What has gone down in history as Finlandization is, in my opinion, a way out of an implacable logic, with regard to the structural incomprehension between the Americans and us.

Unfortunately, the comedian, who certainly believes himself on a film set, confusing reality and fiction, lets himself be tricked by fictitious promises of Western support. He and his friends refuse to understand the great issue of protecting my country, not only from a military point of view, but also from a civilizational point of view. A quick glance at the geographical map of Eastern Europe makes it possible to understand my position: on the entire western flank, I am surrounded by countries flying the NATO flag, and having, as a result, adopted the mode of politico-societal organization proposed by the West. I'm not stupid, I've read George Kennan's "The Long Telegram", I'm familiar with the containment theory he was already proposing in 1946, and its counterpart, the domino theory, which was to become - and which still are – the two main thrusts of American foreign policy.

Following this logic, the Western idea is very clearly to surround my Russia with arms and social organizations to the standards desired by our enemies, so that sooner or later, our country will disappear, either by military means or by soft way. A great replacement of the Russian people and civilization is therefore to be feared!

It is in the face of all this, butted against the bad faith of those who want to make our identity disappear, to annihilate the nation of Oleg the Wise, the descendants of Vladimir the Great, to ignore the contribution of Anne of Kiev, to refute the legacy of Vladimir Illitch, which I have decided, in full awareness of the risks that this represents, to act and not to suffer. Peoples of the world, understand my position, it is very simple, and I think that if each of you succeeds in making the projection in the context of your own country, you will understand that there was no other alternative, under the same conditions of dialogue of the deaf, as what is happening today in Ukraine. Either that or take the risk of having close to me a foreign armed coalition openly hostile to my people, to their history, to their civilization, in the country which is and will remain the cradle of Russia, and which has benefited of the best in terms of military cooperation during the time of the USSR. For the survival of my Russia, I cannot afford to have such a large territory totally devoted to the Western cause, from which any kind of attack could arise at any time.

Notwithstanding this pressing security issue, I have no intention of occupying Ukraine. It is too vast a territory, with an openly and mostly pro-Western population, it would cost us too much in time, energy and money to embark on a colonizing adventure. I would like talks to be held with Ukrainian leaders who are aware of the geopolitical importance of this country, and of its role in the current configuration of stability and security in Europe, and not with acculturated pseudo leaders, with no political strategy other than to be in the pay of the Americans. In the interest of my Russia, and of the Ukrainian populations, it is important that a frank and sincere dialogue be held as soon as possible, with, I repeat, a responsible Ukrainian government! Otherwise, the other solution would then be the partition of Ukraine, and the international recognition of the Donbass republics which are populated by Ukrainians who prefer attachment to the values ​​of greater Russia to Western assimilation.

In this ideological war, dear peoples of the world, you must understand that if the USA is ready to do anything to impose itself everywhere, my Russia is ready to do anything to refuse assimilation, the importation of a major civilizational danger into its near stranger. It will therefore unfortunately be, according to the American doctrine of the savagery of the civilized world, who will have the best weapons and the best global strategy, if reason, across the Atlantic, does not prevail over emotions.

The ball is in their court. Americans to give our world a chance for peace.

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin


Otherwise, I found in English an extract of his speech, which is different from that in French
No other option’: Excerpts of Putin’s speech declaring war

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bPF2C-Ozflg

I share a video with you, you have the possibility of translator on youtube if you are on a computer. The content alludes to the disappearance of Putin which caused more than 11,000 comments in 48 hours, a crazy thing to suppose to kill Putin. I didn't watch to the end

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Posted by Jill

'Ukraine is bombing Ukrainians'
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7gxJr6b9PvM

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Thanks for posting this up. (although I already have done, elsewhere on the thread.)

It's downloaded ready for library upload too.

Just as importantly, although the film Donbass - 2016 is at times very harrowing viewing, it does need to be watched, by just about everyone, anywhere.

https://twitter.com/Citizen817/statu...CAj86NbdNoChfw

https://twitter.com/DavidBCollum/sta...2b7hLjq2ZJ8VWA

Johnson repeating much the same theatrical script as Nuland, but this time fearmongering with chemical weapons.

This is appalling political propaganda being waved through by equally appalling standards of journalism.

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Posted by Jill

'Ukraine is bombing Ukrainians'
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7gxJr6b9PvM

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:bump:

Thanks for posting this up. (although I already have done, elsewhere on the thread.)

It's downloaded ready for library upload too.

Just as importantly, although the film Donbass - 2016 is at times very harrowing viewing, it does need to be watched, by just about everyone, anywhere.

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Oops, did a double check for videos on the 9th before posting this but couldn't find this one dated March 9. Apologize if this is a repeat.

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... US Divided Too Deeply To Recover 1:35:29

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Streamed live on Mar 10, 2022

https://yt3.ggpht.com/ytc/AKedOLTMyR...00ffffff-no-rj roypotterqa

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7nOsfnpQQE8

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