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Dreizin Publishes Complete Ukrainian Battle Plan for Entire Zaporozhie Front
Published by dreizinreport on May 8, 2023
Putin today said that the US is forcing this fight until every last ukrainian is dead. Is he wrong? Meanwhile the head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council has claimed a third world war is already underway, with the Moscow-Kiev conflict pulling in countries far beyond the region.
- A former Ukrainian security chief confesses that Kiev (Ukraine) killed dissidents because prisons were not doing the job. But the western media whitewashes the official's words, changing 'eliminate people' to 'eliminate terrorists' for a softer effect.
And this:
https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12482085/Nuclear-war-inevitable-conclusion-Ukrainian-invasion-warns-Russian-general-wrote-nations-war-bible.html
Nuclear war is the 'inevitable' conclusion of the Ukrainian invasion, warns Russian general who wrote the nation's 'war bible'
- Russia-Ukraine War LIVE: Russia's 'General Armageddon' seen for first time since Wagner mutiny:
A new photo appearing to show Russian General Sergei Surovikin, who has not been seen in public since a brief mutiny by the Wagner mercenary group in June, was published on social media on Monday by a well known Russian media personality.
"General Sergei Surovikin is out. Alive, healthy, at home, with his family, in Moscow. Photo taken today," Ksenia Sobchak wrote in a caption to the picture.
To demand that Russia and China tolerate foreign activities on their borders that the US would never even think about tolerating on its own borders is just demanding that the entire world lie down and submit to being ruled by Washington.
Some commentators claim that it was a self-propelled gun and not a Challenger 2 tank, but, of course, that was erroneous. Grant Shapps the incumbent Secretary of State for Defence confirmed on Sky News yesterday that it was indeed a Challenger 2 (paraphrasing) "..but there's still 13 left." Perhaps Hamish de Bretton-Gordon needs to revisit his Daily Telegraph Op Ed from June 7th this year :)
Very true of course. But there have been other incidents a long way away from the US borders that could have accelerated the lurch to 'Armageddon'.
August 12th, 2000: The Kursk submarine incident.
Pravda ran a story on August 22, 2000 titled: "World War III Could Have Begun Saturday." and they make a more than compelling case that it was effectively taken out by a US or British submarine. The Russian Navy later endorsed the finding that the Kursk had been destroyed in a collision with a foreign sub.
(From "9/11: Synthetic Terror" by Webster Griffin Tarpley) p 132:
And from the same book, p 131:While American and European media have jumped the gun in attributing the Kursk sinking to onboard explosions, probably caused by a battery fire or torpedo detonation, the preponderance of evidence in fact suggests that the Kursk collided with another vessel - a U.S. or British submarine, or drone vehicle - or, in the extreme case, was possibly hit by a torpedo. A commission of Russian Navy officers officially endorsed the finding that the Kursk had been destroyed by a collision with a foreign sub. The Kursk , with a crew of 118 sailors and officers, was found at the bottom of the Sea.
The crew members were instantly killed in what Russian officials asserted was a collision with the second vessel. On August 21, the Russian news agency Interfax reported that Russian rescue workers had found a fragment of a submarine, “most likely British,” near the Kursk. This followed earlier reports that emergency buoys, also identified as British, were seen floating near the collision site.
On August 22, 2000, Pravda.ru ran a story on the Kursk disaster under the headline:
“World War III Could Have Begun on Saturday.” According to this piece, “On Saturday, August 12, an incident occurred in the Barents Sea, where the Russian Federation’s Northern Fleet was conducting exercises, which nearly led to the outbreak of full-scale combat—a third world war....
For several days the world hung by a thread, and one false political move could have led to an exchange of nuclear strikes.” Citing hydroacoustical evidence of three explosions, “indicating the possibility that the Kursk had suffered a torpedo attack.” Pravda.ru described the incident as a possible casus belli, but concluded, “Happily, the incident in the Barents Sea was successfully resolved by political means.
Agreement to ‘end the affair in peace’ was reached during a telephone conversation
between Vladimir Putin and Bill Clinton. The Presidents’ conversation lasted 25 minutes, and nothing of its content was reported in the mass media.” (New Federalist , August 28, 2000)
On August 22, John Helmer, a Moscow-based journalist who wrote for the Journal of
Commerce and the Moscow Times, commented in the Singapore-based Straits Times that “the Russian sub drama looked like war at the start.” Dismissing the hysterical Western media criticism of President Putin, who remained at the “vacation Kre ml in” at Sochi, Helmer wrote, “If you were the ruler of Russia, and you were told late one night that one of your most powerful and secret submarine weapons had been hit by a mysterious explosion, and sent to the bottom without word from the crew, would it be prudent for you to suspect an attack? An attack by a nuclear superpower and old rival? And if it is your sworn duty to defend your country from attack, would it be reasonable for you to determine whether there was a cause for war, or an accident?”
Also noteworthy was Putin’s growing convergence with the former Prime Minister Yevgeni Primakov, an advocate of a Eurasian perspective for Russia, who on August 23 delivered a strongly worded statement warning the West and the Russian oligarchs not to try to exploit the near-war crisis. ( E1R , September 1, 2000)
The US claimed that an anti-submarine rocket fired from the Kursk had gotten jammed in a firing tube, causing the deadly explosion. But Russian authorities insisted that a foreign sub of the same general type as the Kursk had been present. As the US media were concerned, the Kursk crisis calmed down after a surprise visit to Moscow by CIA Director Tenet, but tensions between the two powers remained extreme. This is the immediate background to Vladimir Putin’s telephone call to Bush on the morning of September 11, 2001.
From page 129-130:MAY 7, 1999: US BOMBS CHINESE EMBASSY
The Kosovo adventure ruined US relations with China as well. On May 7, a US stealth bomber destroyed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, killing a number of Chinese. This incident may have disrupted a potential agreement that might have ended the bombing a month earlier than turned out. The Chinese leadership orchestrated a vehement anti-US campaign, with mass demonstrations everywhere. Albright’s deputy James Pickering flew to Beijing on June 16 to deliver the official US apology and claim the attack was an accident, but this was brusquely rejected by the Chinese government.
Matters were complicated by the arrest of US scientist Wen Ho Lee, who had been charged in March with spying for China. On May 25, 1999, the Cox Committee of the US House of Representatives delivered an exaggerated and provocative report about Chinese espionage in the US. US-Chinese relations were now dangerously strained.
This was followed by what some journalists saw as a possible brush with actual
thermonuclear war between the US and Russia. The occasion was the mysterious sinking of the newest and most powerful Russian nuclear submarine, the Kursk, in the Barents Sea during maneuvers on August 12, 2000. Russian officials reported that there had been a NATO submarine in the area when the Kursk was lost. NATO denied any involvement.
The Kursk had been launched in 1994. During the Cold War and well into the 1990s, the Barents Sea had been the scene of dangerous underwater cat-and-mouse games between the US and Russia, with hunter-killer subs trailing ballistic missile subs on each side. US and Russian subs had last collided in the Arctic Ocean on March 20, 1993, when the USS Grayling crashed into a Russian Delta III class ballistic missile sub carrying 16 SS-N 18 submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) about 105 miles north of the Soviet fleet base at Murmansk, during what was alleged by the US to be a routine patrol.
At that time the Russian Defense Ministry had stated that the “high command of the Russian military fleet expresses its extreme concern over the latest incident of dangerous maneuvering by foreign submarines in military training zones.”
APRIL 9, 1999: YELTSIN WARNS OF WORLD WAR
The bombing of Kosovo was a giant step towards the international anarchy that
manifested itself during the Iraq war of 2003. Russia and China were opposed to the
bombing, but their peace plan was vetoed by the US, Britain, and France. However,
NATO bombed without the benefit of a UN security council resolution. US-Russian
relations reached a post-1991 low, with militant demonstrations at the US embassy in Moscow every day. The bombing of Kosovo duplicated the cowardly “bomb now, die later” method pioneered in the first Iraq war of 1991, with civilian power stations, water systems, and sewage treatment plants all being targeted. The bridges over the Danube were destroyed, an act of despicable vandalism which paralyzed Europe’s most important waterway.
As the bombing went on week after week (TQ: for 78 days in the end) without any Serb capitulation, NATO leaders were seized by the hysterical fear that if NATO’s first war were to end in a draw, the now wholly artificial alliance would begin to collapse. The US needed NATO as a tool for out of area deployments, meaning attacks on developing countries. Tony Blair began proposing an invasion of Serbia with land forces, an option which Clinton had explicitly ruled out. Joining Blair in this insane proposal was General Wesley Clark.
On April 9, 1999 Russian President Yeltsin predicted that an invasion of Serbia by land forces would lead to “European war for sure, and possibly a world war.” Russian General Seleznyov reminded NATO that Russian nuclear missiles were still pointed towards the western powers. This was the first serious mention of world war by a major international figure during the 1990s. Not caring about Yeltsin’s warnings, Blair attempted to use his visit to Washington for the NATO 50 th anniversary on April 23 to convince Clinton to start the ground invasion, but he was rebuffed.
NATO tried to justify its bombing by citing the large numbers of Albanian refugees
leaving Kosovo. There were also wild reports of Serb massacres of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. Many of these exaggerations were conduited from US State Department
spokesman Jamie Rubin to his wife, the meretricious CNN correspondent Christiana
Amanpour. The US claimed that 100,000 Albanians had been massacred and placed in mass graves; postwar investigation showed that there were perhaps 3,000 - a tragedy, but consistent with a guerrilla war of the type started by the KLA. The motivation for the bombing was therefore a big lie, manufactured by the US government and its media minions, (www.antiwar.com/justin/j082100.html)
How far was the aggressive clique within NATO prepared to go? According to Louis
Sell, Milosevic was bludgeoned into capitulation by a threat by Finnish NATO
spokesman Ahtisaari, who told the Serbs that “if he refused the deal, NATO was prepared to attack a much broader range of targets - including the remaining bridges across the Danube, the power and heating systems, and the telephone network.” (Sell 311) This was a program of genocidal bombing with devastating delayed-action demographic impact - the “bomb now, die later” method employed in Iraq.
“I’M NOT GOING TO START WORLD WAR III FOR YOU”
Russia, now in the person of Chernomyrdin rather than ousted Primakov, was finally able to induce Milosevic to capitulate in early June. The Russian army, anxious to
demonstrate solidarity with the Serbs, and resentful because of NATO attempts to deny Russia an occupation zone in Kosovo, on June 12 carried off a coup de main.
They quickly shifted a couple of companies of armored vehicles to the airport in Pristina, a city in Kosovo not far from the border of Serbia proper. At this point General Wesley Clark (later Michael Moore’s favorite presidential candidate in 2004) became frantic, and ordered the NATO ground commander, British General Sir Michael Jackson, to deny the Russians the use of the airport. There were reports that Russia was about to send a sky train of paratroopers to back up its demand. General Jackson flatly refused to carry out Clark’s order, making the now-famous reply:
I’m not going to start the Third World War for you.
General Jackson later told the BBC: “We were [looking at] a possibility....of
confrontation with the Russian contingent which seemed to me probably not the right way to start off a relationship with Russians who were going to become part of my command.” Clark planned to order British tanks and armored cars to block the runways to prevent any Russian transport planes from landing. Clark said he believed it was “an appropriate course of action.” But the plan was again vetoed by Britain. Here was a second serious warning about world war. (BBC, March 9, 2000)
It is evident in retrospect that the Kosovo operation was a proxy war between the United States and Russia, in which the NATO mauling the Serb civilian population was supposed to illustrate to Russia the formidable military potential of the US-led alliance.
The Pristina crisis cooled down, but US-Russian relations were dangerously strained.
Milosevic had been indicted for war crimes in May 1999. As NATO troops streamed into defeated Serbia, they were accompanied by suitcases full of US dollars to be used by the National Endowment for Democracy to organize the overthrow of Milosevic, which duly followed in the spring of 2000, when the dictator was toppled by a textbook CIA “people power” revolution. In mid-2001, a couple of months before 9/11, Milosevic was illegally kidnapped from Serbia and taken to stand trial at a kangaroo court in The Hague.
Konstantinovka incident
An excellent thread from Lord Bebo on Twitter that some of you may find of interest.
It’s ridiculously hypocritical for westerners to condemn Russia and China for responding aggressively to the US empire building up military threats on their borders, because the last time a credible military threat was placed near the border of the United States, the US responded so aggressively that it almost ended the world.
I point out this hypocrisy not because hypocrisy in and of itself is an especially terrible sin — there are much worse things you can be in life than a hypocrite — but to flag the fact that people who think Russia and China should tolerate US actions on their borders that the US would never tolerate on its own borders actually believe the United States should rule the world.
It’s worth spending some time learning about the Cuban Missile Crisis for a number of reasons in the 2020s. First, in a time of soaring hostilities between nuclear-armed governments it’s probably good to have a lucid understanding of how close humanity came to wiping itself out in 1962, and the fact that total nuclear war was averted by a single dissenting decision by a single Soviet officer on a nuclear-armed submarine that was being bombarded by the US navy. Second, in an environment where talk of peace negotiations and compromise are regarded as treasonous Kremlin loyalism it’s good to have an understanding of the fact that the only reason we survived that perilous standoff was because Washington made compromises and pulled its Jupiter missiles out of Turkey and Italy. Third, the Cuban Missile Crisis shows how aggressively the US will respond to a foreign rival placing a military threat near its border.
Apologies if this is old news - I have not kept up in this thread
https://twitter.com/clif_high/status...305563446?s=20Quote:
according to an excerpt adapted from Walter Isaacson’s new biography
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Russian Defense Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation
7 September 2023
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
▫️In Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian grouping of troops, aviation and artillery, have repelled 14 AFU attacks close to Verbovoye and Rabotino (Zaporozhye region).
▫️The enemy losses were up to 110 Ukrainian servicemen, two tanks, four infantry fighting vehicles, two armored fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, one M109 Paladin self-propelled artillery system, and one U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery system, one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, UK-manufactured FH-70, Msta-B and D-30 howitzers, as well as one Bukovel-AD electronic warfare station for detecting UAVs and blocking their control and navigation channels.
▫️In Donetsk direction, units of the Yug Group of Forces, in cooperation with aviation and artillery, have successfully repelled nine attacks by AFU assault groups close to Kleshcheevka, Andreevka and Khimki (Donetsk People's Republic).
▫️The enemy losses were over 320 Ukrainian servicemen killed and wounded, one tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, 12 motor vehicles, Polish-manufactured Krab and Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, two D-30 howitzers, and one D-20 gun.
▫️In Kupyansk direction, as a result of active actions by units of the Zapad Group of Forces, in cooperation with aviation and artillery, four attacks by the 95th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU have been repelled. In addition, the Group's troops have inflicted one fire defeat on the enemy near Kislovka (Kharkov region).
▫️The enemy losses were up to 55 Ukrainian servicemen, two motor vehicles, three U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery systems, and one Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system.
▫️In Krasny Liman direction, as a result of coordinated actions of units of the Tsentr Group of Forces, Army Aviation and artillery, one attack by assault groups of the 67nd Mechanised Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been repelled close to Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).
▫️The enemy losses were up to 60 Ukrainian personnel, two armored fighting vehicles, and three pickup trucks.
▫️In South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok Group of Forces, in co-operation with Army Aviation and artillery, have inflicted one fire defeat on AFU units near Staromayorskoye (Donetsk People's Republic).
▫️In addition, one enemy attack has been repelled near Novomayorskoye (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as the actions of two AFU sabotage and reconnaissance groups have been suppressed.
▫️The enemy losses were up to 180 Ukrainian servicemen, two armored fighting vehicles, five motor vehicles, one Polish-manufactured Krab self-propelled artillery system, two D-30 howitzers, and one Giatsint-B gun.
▫️In Kherson direction, the enemy losses were up to 25 Ukrainian servicemen, two motor vehicles, and two U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery systems.
▫️In addition, three Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance groups from the 126th Territorial Defence Brigade have been destroyed on the Pereyaslavsky Island.
▫️Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralized manpower and military hardware in 117 areas.
▫️One S-300ps SAM system has been destroyed near Lyubimovka (Zaporozhye region).
▫️Field ammunition depots of 3rd assault and 79th airborne assault brigades of the AFU have been destroyed close to Krasnoye and Novomikhailovka (Donetsk People's Republic).
▫️Air defence facilities have intercepted 11 HIMARS multiple-launch rocket systems, as well as one JDAM guided aerial bomb.
▫️In addition, 41 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been destroyed close to Belogorovka, Melovatka (Lugansk People's Republic), Spornoye, Vodyanoye (Donetsk People's Republic), Mirnoye (Zaporozhye region), and Golaya Pristan (Kherson region).
📊In total, 467 airplanes, 248 helicopters, 6,467 unmanned aerial vehicles, 436 air defense missile systems, 11,711 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 1,148 fighting vehicles equipped with MLRS, 6,274 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 12,776 special military motor vehicles have been destroyed during the special military operation.
Russian Defense Ministry
https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1699811827708739753
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Polish Defense Chief Andrzejczak lays down cold hard truth on Americans, stating he’s not surprised at ferocity of Russian troops fighting in Ukraine and warns West NOT to underestimate Moscow, telling bewildered show hosts they can’t compare Russian forces to Western standards.
Polish General says Russian soldiers don’t back down from hardships and press on through even the most difficult situations - something Andrzejczak implies is notably absent in NATO forces.
And this by Russian soldiers armed only with shovels...
#säkpol
https://twitter.com/mazzenilsson/sta...73301034193387