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Garabandal Warning Alert - Pope Francis To Visit Moscow in June
Hot of the press! There is fresh talk that Pope Francis may be visiting Moscow in June 2024 which will be the final check of prophecies according to the Garabandal Apparitions and Messages.
The Pope going to Moscow is a major prophecy alert as it is the final part of a context of prophecies given for the end times that we live in. Garabandal warning is to coincide with a great ecclesiastical event shortly after the Pope returns from Moscow. We have been waiting over 60 years, for this prophecy to occur and it comes bang on time with every other prophecy.
Time is short!
#garabandalwarning #garabandalwarning #popefrancis
There is only one source currently bringing this information and it is unverified for now, but if it is true then it will no doubt gather pace and become a top news bulletin across all platforms.
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Theres so much going on in the world, seems this got overlooked , thanks for the reminder sir. Back on the tracks
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Vatican refutes claims Pope is planning visit to Russia
French outlet Intelligence Online has said the pontiff is in talks about a potential trip to Moscow
https://www.rt.com/news/594570-vatic...-russia-visit/
Pope Francis has not received an invitation to visit Russia and is not planning any such trip, the Vatican told RIA Novosti on Wednesday. The rebuttal follows claims in the French media this week that the pontiff could travel to Moscow to mediate in the Ukraine conflict.
The Pope has repeatedly called for a diplomatic solution to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine and has offered his services as a mediator on several occasions. He also recently called on Kiev to “have the courage of the white flag” and enter into negotiations with Moscow, drawing a barrage of criticism from the West.
On Tuesday, French outlet Intelligence Online – which describes itself as an independent media source focused on “exclusive” reporting – claimed that the Pope is planning to visit Moscow in June, and that the Vatican is already holding talks with Russian diplomats on the issue.
Speaking to RIA Novosti on Wednesday, the Vatican said the report “does not reflect the actual situation.” A source for the Russian news agency also denied any plans for a papal visit to Russia. The Russian Foreign Ministry, meanwhile, has not commented on the report.
In May 2023, the Vatican sought to ease the tensions between Russia and Ukraine through a mission led by Cardinal Matteo Zuppi. He visited Kiev, Moscow, Washington, and Beijing, although the results of the mission remain unclear.
Earlier this month, the Pope called on Kiev to have “the courage to negotiate,” adding that this also meant “the courage of not leading the country to suicide.” Any government should think about its people and ask itself how many deaths it must take for a conflict to end, Francis stated.
Ukraine promptly rejected the appeal. Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba insisted that Ukraine “shall never raise any other flags” apart from its national standard. The Pope’s comments were also criticized by the EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.
Re: The Third Secret of Fatima
Houman posted this on his thread yesterday, and I felt it clearly belonged here as well. It's an hour-long documentary about the famous Marian message conveyed to Agnes Katsuko Sasagawa at Akita, Japan in 1973, but if you know the most interesting details of that, you also know a lot about the Third Secret of Fatima. The documentary's narrator needs a little better editing in some places, but the theme is fascinating.
There are many references (and witness reports) of the statue of the Virgin Mary in Akita that began to shed tears, counted to have done so on 101 occasions. The phenomenon was even captured on camera and and shown on Japanese TV, and laboratory analysis showed the tears to be "of human origin". It seems impossible for any trickery to have been involved.
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Akita and the Fatima Secret (With Important Update on Visionary Sister Sasagawa)
Fr. Elias Mary visited Sister Sasagawa at the Grove of the Owls Care home on April 17, 2023. His visit can be read in the May/June edition of the Missio Immaculatae Magazine at missiomagazine.com/project/may-june-2023
Since then, it has come to light that Sister Sasagawa, as confirmed again on the 1st of April 2024, remains at the Grove of the Owls Care facility in Kumamoto, Japan. We urgently ask for people in Japan to speak with her. We inform our viewers of Sister Agnes' need for visitors as she has been isolated from the Catholic community, and her health is poor. Please pray for her, and we ask nearby Christians in Japan to support and visit Sister Sasagawa at the Grove of the Owls Care facility in Kumamoto.
This video was made in 2015 with Sister Agnes Sasagawa's participation and approval. This is the first time her voice has been heard since she was interviewed for the Hill of Redemption documentary in 1990. Our Lady of Akita is extremely important because 13 years after the final part of the Fatima Secret was to be released by the Vatican in 1960, Cardinal Ratzinger said Our Lady of Akita is essentially the same as the Fatima Secret.
Sister Sasagawa wrote an endorsement letter for the documentary. This letter can be read at 59 minutes and 10 seconds in the documentary.
"I confirm that the information communicated in this documentary is correct and genuine.
I have long wanted this information to be known to all the people in the world. I believe, therefore, this documentary is a work of God that complies with the Blessed Virgin's instructions to warn people so that they amend their lives.
The late Bishop Ito, the late Pastor Yasuda, and other reliable sources have supported that the third message of Akita delivered to me by Our Lady of Akita is essentially the same as the third message of Fatima.
I pray that this documentary is shown to as many people as possible.
May the peace of our Blessed Maria and Jesus Christ be with you,
Faithfully, Sister Agnes Katsuko Sasakawa"
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Fr. Elias Mary visited Sister Sasagawa at the Grove of the Owls care home on April 17, 2023. His visit can be read in the May/June edition of the Missio Immaculatae Magazine at missiomagazine.com/project/may-june-2023
Also related to this subject is the documentary The Secret of Nagasaki available at vimeo.com/manage/videos/911118807. The Secret of Nagasaki is based on David Dionisi's book Atomic Bomb Secret which was published by Seibo no Kishi in Nagasaki, founded by St. Maximilian Kolbe, O.F.M Conventual, and one of the reasons Sister Sasagawa agreed to help make Akita and the Fatima Secret.
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Just wondering ... Is the Vatican preparing for more Marian apparitions or messages?
Vatican releases new norms on alleged supernatural phenomena
The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith releases a document detailing new norms regarding cases of reported supernatural phenomena. As a rule, neither the local bishop nor the Holy See will declare that these phenomena are of supernatural origin, but will only authorize and promote devotion and pilgrimages.
By Vatican News
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatica...ena-norms.html
A new document from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith published on Friday, May 17, has updated the norms for discerning alleged supernatural phenomena. The norms come into force on Sunday, May 19, the feast of Pentecost.
The document is preceded by a detailed presentation by Cardinal Víctor Manuel Fernández, Prefect of the Dicastery, followed by an introduction and six possible conclusions. The procedure allows for faster decisions while respecting popular devotion.
As a rule, the Church’s authority will no longer be engaged to officially define the supernatural nature of a phenomenon, a process that can require large amounts time to thoroughly study an event.
Another new norm involves the explicit involvement of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, which must approve the local bishop’s final decision and which has the authority to intervene motu proprio at any time.
Many cases in recent decades have involved the former Holy Office, even when individual bishops have expressed themselves. However, the interventions have usually remained behind the scenes and were never made public.
The Dicastery’s new explicit involvement also relates to the difficulty in circumscribing phenomena, which in some cases reach national and even global dimensions, “meaning that a decision made in one Diocese has consequences also elsewhere.”
Reasons for the new norms
The document originates from the long experience of the last century, which saw cases where the local bishop (or bishops of a region) rapidly declared a phenomenon’s supernatural nature, only for the Holy Office to express a different decision later. Other cases involved a bishop saying one thing and his successor deciding the opposite (regarding the same phenomenon).
Each event also required lengthy discernment periods to evaluate all elements in order to reach a decision on the supernatural nature or non-supernatural nature of the phenomena. These time periods sometimes contrasted with the urgency to give pastoral responses for the good of the faithful.
The Dicastery began revising the norms in 2019, leading to the current text approved by Pope Francis on May 4.
Spiritual fruits and risks
In his presentation, Cardinal Fernández explains that, “many times, these events have led to a great richness of spiritual fruits, growth in faith, devotion, fraternity, and service. In some cases, they have given rise to shrines throughout the world that are at the heart of many people’s popular piety today.”
However, there is also the possibility that “in some events of alleged supernatural origin,” serious issues that harm the faithful may arise. These include cases where from the alleged phenomena, “profit, power, fame, social recognition, or other personal interest” (II, Art. 15, 4°) are derived, even to the point of “exerting control over people or carrying out abuses (II, Art. 16).”
There may be “doctrinal errors, an oversimplification of the Gospel message, or the spread of a sectarian mentality.” There is the possibility of believers “being misled by an event that is attributed to a divine initiative but is merely the product of someone’s imagination, desire for novelty, tendency to fabricate falsehoods (mythomania), or inclination toward lying.”
General guidelines
According to the new norms, the Church will exercise her duties of discernment, based on the following:
“(a) whether signs of a divine action can be ascertained in phenomena that are alleged to be of supernatural origin; (b) whether there is anything that conflicts with faith and morals in the writings or messages of those involved in the alleged phenomena in question; (c) whether it is permissible to appreciate their spiritual fruits, whether they need to be purified from problematic elements, or whether the faithful should be warned about potential risks; (d) whether it is advisable for the competent ecclesiastical authority to realize their pastoral value” (I, 10).
However, “it is not foreseen in these Norms that ecclesiastical authority would give a positive recognition of the divine origin of alleged supernatural phenomena” (I, 11).
Therefore, as a rule, “neither the Diocesan Bishop, nor the Episcopal Conferences, nor the Dicastery will declare that these phenomena are of supernatural origin, even if a Nihil obstat is granted. It remains true, however, that the Holy Father can authorize a special procedure in this regard” (I, 23).
Possible conclusions regarding an alleged phenomenon
The discernment of an alleged supernatural phenomenon may reach the following six conclusions.
- Nihil Obstat: Without expressing any certainty about the supernatural authenticity of the phenomenon itself, many signs of the action of the Holy Spirit are acknowledged. The bishop is encouraged to appreciate the pastoral value and promote the dissemination of the phenomenon, including pilgrimages;
- Prae oculis habeatur: Although important positive signs are recognized, some aspects of confusion or potential risks are also perceived that require the diocesan bishop to engage in a careful discernment and dialogue with the recipients of a given spiritual experience. If there were writings or messages, doctrinal clarification might be necessary;
- Curatur: Various or significant critical elements are noted, but the phenomenon is already spread widely, and verifiable spiritual fruits are connected to it. Therefore, a ban that could upset the faithful is not recommended, but the local bishop is advised not to encourage the phenomenon;
- Sub mandato: The critical issues are not connected to the phenomenon itself but to its improper use by people or groups, such as undue financial gain or immoral acts. The Holy See entrusts the pastoral leadership of the specific place to the diocesan bishop or a delegate;
- Prohibetur et obstruatur: Despite various positive elements, the critical issues and risks associated with this phenomenon appear to be very serious. The Dicastery asks the local bishop to offer a catechesis that can help the faithful understand the reasons for the decision and reorient their legitimate spiritual concerns;
- Declaratio de non supernaturalitate: The Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith authorizes the local bishop to declare that the phenomenon is found to be not supernatural based on concrete facts and evidence, such as the confession of an alleged visionary or credible testimonies of fabrication of the phenomenon.
Procedures to follow
The new norms then indicate the procedures to be implemented. It is up to the diocesan bishop to examine cases and submit their judgment to the Dicastery for approval. The bishop is asked to refrain from making public declarations about the authenticity or supernatural nature and to ensure there is no confusion or sensationalism.
If the elements of the case “seem sufficient,” the diocesan bishop will then set up an investigative commission, which should include at least one theologian, one canonist, and an expert chosen based on the nature of the phenomenon.
Positive and negative criteria
The document lays out several positive criteria to evaluate the alleged supernatural phenomenon.
These include: “the credibility and good reputation of the persons who claim to be recipients of supernatural events or to be directly involved in them, as well as the reputation of the witnesses who have been heard...; the doctrinal orthodoxy of the phenomenon and any messages related to it; the unpredictable nature of the phenomenon, by which it is evident that it is not the result of the initiative of the people involved; and, fruits of the Christian life” (II, 14).
The negative criteria involve: “the possibility of a manifest error about the event; potential doctrinal errors...; a sectarian spirit that breeds division in the Church; an overt pursuit of profit, power, fame, social recognition, or other personal interest closely linked to the event; gravely immoral actions…; psychological alterations or psychopathic tendencies in the person that may have exerted an influence on the alleged supernatural event; and, any psychosis, collective hysteria, and other elements traceable to a pathological context” (II, 15).
Finally, “the use of purported supernatural experiences or recognized mystical elements as a means of or a pretext for exerting control over people or carrying out abuses” (II, 16) is considered of particular moral gravity.
Regardless of the final approved determination, the diocesan bishop “must continue to watch over the phenomenon and the people involved, exercising his ordinary power” (II, 24).
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/vatica...ena-norms.html
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A short video on the correct pronunciation of the name for 'GOD' in the ancient Hebrew as recently discovered. Interesting
FAQ on the Thiaoouba.com web site - the very first Q&A answers this question also...
https://thiaoouba.com/faq/
I don't think this to be a coincidence, but everyone has Free Will to believe what they wish to believe.
The main takeaway from Thiaoouba is that each of us is a Infinite Divine Spark of Creation, and that we can do Everything that Jesus did, if we but Meditate and Concentrate. But there is a great deal of 'training' that must occur to achieve any level of 'proficiency'.
In the book they talk about how there were Africans who maintained the ability to self-levitate for many years. but this was lost in time. The human body IS the ultimate 'technology' in this 'physical' universe based in Probabilities, Created by Conscious and Unconscious thought.
An amazing short story on Wendel Steven's archive site is that of Apu, (
also in the Avalon pdf archive)... in it, a young human woman demonstrates the ability to heal by thought (as Jesus did) - and she was from the Croatian region originally...
In Unity, Peace and LOVE
Concerning 'Apu': (now) most definitely there (and thanks for your recent PM concerning this :flower: )
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Ste...anet%20APU.pdf
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Garabandal Warning Alert - Pope Francis To Visit Moscow in June
Hot of the press! There is fresh talk that Pope Francis may be visiting Moscow in June 2024 which will be the final check of prophecies according to the Garabandal Apparitions and Messages.
The Pope going to Moscow is a major prophecy alert as it is the final part of a context of prophecies given for the end times that we live in. Garabandal warning is to coincide with a great ecclesiastical event shortly after the Pope returns from Moscow. We have been waiting over 60 years, for this prophecy to occur and it comes bang on time with every other prophecy.
Time is short!
#garabandalwarning #garabandalwarning #popefrancis
There is only one source currently bringing this information and it is unverified for now, but if it is true then it will no doubt gather pace and become a top news bulletin across all platforms.
...we're now in June...all seems silent on this front, for now :rose:
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Sister Agnes Sasagawa, Our Lady of Akita visionary, dies at 93
By Jonah McKeown
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...ary-dies-at-93
Sister Agnes Sasagawa, a Japanese nun whose purported visions of the Virgin Mary under the title of Our Lady of Akita included stark warnings for humanity and instructions to pray the rosary and repent of sin, died Aug. 15 at age 93.
A parish priest in Akita, Japan, confirmed to CNA by phone that Sasagawa had died on Aug. 15.
The order to which Sasagawa belonged, the Institute of the Handmaids of the Holy Eucharist, announced that Sasagawa, who had been “undergoing medical treatment for some time,” died on the Feast of the Assumption of Mary. She famously received a purported series of messages from Mary and witnessed other supernatural phenomena beginning fifty years ago.
The local Bishop John Shojiro Ito of Niigata, who founded Sasagawa’s order and died in 1993, gave the faithful in his diocese permission to venerate Our Lady of Akita in April 1984 after eight years of investigation, finding that her messages contain “nothing contrary to Catholic doctrine or morals.”
Katsuko Sasagawa, born in 1930 to a Buddhist family, was baptized after the witness of a Christian nurse, who gave her water from Lourdes to drink. She joined religious life and took the name Agnes.
Sasagawa’s unusual spiritual experiences began in 1973, while she was still very new to the religious community.
On June 12, 1973, Sasagawa saw brilliant rays coming from the tabernacle at the convent. The vision happened again on each of the following two days. Then, on June 28, a painful cross-shaped wound, which bled profusely, appeared on Sasagawa’s hand.
On July 6, Sasagawa heard a voice coming from a wooden statue of Mary that was in the convent, which had been carved from a single block of wood a decade prior. The voice told her that issues she was having at the time with her hearing would be healed (which came to pass in 1974) and also that she should “pray in reparation for the sins of men.” The voice also taught her a prayer of consecration to Jesus’ heart.
Soon after, the statue of Mary developed a wound similar to Sasagawa’s, but on the opposite hand. Sasagawa’s wound eventually vanished.
On Aug. 3, 1973, Mary spoke to Sasagawa again, speaking of an “important” message that Sasagawa should convey to her superior.
“Many men in this world afflict the Lord. I desire souls to console Him to soften the anger of the Heavenly Father. I wish, with my Son, for souls who will repair by their suffering and their poverty for the sinners and ingrates. In order that the world might know His anger, the Heavenly Father is preparing to inflict a great chastisement on all mankind,” Mary is purported to have told Sasagawa.
“With my Son I have intervened so many times to appease the wrath of the Father. I have prevented the coming of calamities by offering Him the sufferings of the Son on the Cross, His Precious Blood, and beloved souls who console Him forming a cohort of victim souls. Prayer, penance and courageous sacrifices can soften the Father’s anger. I desire this also from your community...that it love poverty, that it sanctify itself and pray in reparation for the ingratitude and outrages of so many men.”
Mary then reportedly told Sasagawa to “Recite the prayer of the Handmaids of the Eucharist with awareness of its meaning; put it into practice; offer in reparation (whatever God may send) for sins. Let each one endeavor, according to capacity and position, to offer herself entirely to the Lord.”
Sasagawa’s second message from Mary came on Oct. 13, 1973, the anniversary of Mary’s appearance at Fatima.
“As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one has never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests,” Mary said.
“The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres...churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord. The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them.”
In January 1975, almost two years later, the statue of Mary began to weep — continuing to do so on 101 occasions over the next seven years. A Japanese television station reportedly captured the weeping — known as “lacrimations” — on film.
In an April 22, 1984 letter, Bishop Ito recognized “the supernatural character of a series of mysterious events concerning the statue of the Holy Mother Mary.”
“Consequently, I authorize, throughout the entire diocese, the veneration of the Holy Mother of Akita, while awaiting that the Holy See publishes definitive judgment on this matter,” the bishop wrote.
“And I ask that it be remembered that even if the Holy See later publishes a favorable judgment with regard to the events of Akita, it is a question only of a private Divine revelation. Christians are bound to believe only [the] content of public Divine revelation (closed after the death of the last Apostle) which contains all that is necessary for salvation. Nevertheless, the Church, until now, has equally made much of private Divine revelations as they fortify the faith.”
A shrine housing the statue and dedicated to Mary under the title of “Redemptorist Mater” (Mother of the Redeemer) was completed in Akita in 2002, and since 2017 has attracted some 7,000 pilgrims a year.
The Vatican, which earlier this year issued new norms mandating that the Vatican’s top doctrinal office “must always be consulted and give final approval” to alleged Marian apparitions, has not officially ruled on Our Lady of Akita. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future Pope Benedict XVI, in 1988 as prefect of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, let stand Ito’s judgment that the apparitions and the messages were acceptable for the faithful.
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Houman posted this on his thread yesterday: :flower:
The text:Anyone who knows the message of Akita should be very concerned right now. Everyone who doesn’t, should probably look into it now. Things are about to get real. God help us! Pope Benedict XVI said the message of Akita complements the message of Fatima.
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AKITA UPDATE: STRANGE DETAIL ON THE PASSING OF SR. AGNES SASAGAWA KATSUKO
