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Aristomenis Tsirbas surely did not do his homework. All Insiders said that advanced beings communicate via telepathy. The aged Film filter Looks fake why on earth should Film turn Brown while aging ? Thats not a Photograph. And trying to connect it to Edward Snowden ???? Shame on you Aristomenis Tsirbas, go in the Corner and face the wall ;)
Hi Atlas - would you mind sharing your opinion on the authenticity of this one please? => https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
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Hi Innocent Warrior,
I was unable to debunk this video so far. Some people say Victor was in fact Bob Dean as he wore a very similar tie but it's no proof:
Here is a thread: projectavalon.net/Alien Interview: Hoax Puppet
And the documentary:
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Posted by Innocent WarriorHi Atlas - would you mind sharing your opinion on the authenticity of this one please? => https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
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Sean David Morton was sent the video in the 90s by 'Victor', and knew his identity. I talked with Sean extensively about this back in 2006-7.
I'm pretty convinced it's real. (And no, 'Victor' was not Bob Dean.)
Thanks for sharing your view on this Bill, I have actually been very curious about this one for a while. Something about it makes me feel like it is real also.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryanhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
Posted by Innocent WarriorHi Atlas - would you mind sharing your opinion on the authenticity of this one please? => https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
Posted by Atlas
Sean David Morton was sent the video in the 90s by 'Victor', and knew his identity. I talked with Sean extensively about this back in 2006-7.
I'm pretty convinced it's real. (And no, 'Victor' was not Bob Dean.)
I feel very much the same. First time I saw that, I got the willies and that virtually never happens with vids of this type. I usually always shake my head. The being's eyes are a little more forward and rounder than I remember, from beings I have seen with my own eyes, but even so, something flashed in my mind that this was the real deal. That Bob Dean himself endorsed the video was icing on the cake.Quote:
Posted by 7alonThanks for sharing your view on this Bill, I have actually been very curious about this one for a while. Something about it makes me feel like it is real also.Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryanhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
Posted by Innocent WarriorHi Atlas - would you mind sharing your opinion on the authenticity of this one please? => https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iEebjUpWBdwQuote:
Posted by Atlas
Sean David Morton was sent the video in the 90s by 'Victor', and knew his identity. I talked with Sean extensively about this back in 2006-7.
I'm pretty convinced it's real. (And no, 'Victor' was not Bob Dean.)
The only remaining question for me is the slightly suspect story of how the video tape was smuggled out. It would make their security surprisingly lax, which is not likely, alternatively it was a controlled leak, which makes you wonder what the agenda is behind it.
I've seen the interviews with this 'Victor' guy as well. He acts really strange in my opinion, like he actually is acting.
Yes. I think, but do not know, this was the 'real' Victor — but he was reading from prepared answers.Quote:
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Sean David Morton, who released the footage 20 years ago, offers comments on his 'Dr J' radio interview of 26 July 2016.
The whole interview (a pretty interesting one) is here, and the two brief sections, which I spliced together, are at 46:03 and 1:42:22.
(Mod note: I also merged 4 threads on the same subject.)
- http://projectavalon.net/Sean_David_..._July_2016.mp4 (1 min 20 secs, 750 Kb)
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Bumping, for no special reason than this is still a fascinating piece of footage, and perhaps there are some here who haven't seen it before.
I still think it's genuine, but I'm not completely sold on the story of how it got out.
I think the story goes that a portion of video tape was unreeled from the cassette and then wrapped around an arm or a leg, and simply walked out of the facility. Perhaps they knew that security was just that porous, but still, it's risky as hell. It's the sort of thing that can send you into the desert for a dirt nap. The problem is, magnetic tape is not very durable. It's going to crinkle and deform and that will result in a poor quality picture, full of noise, when you play it back. But there is no such distortion in the footage. This is an anomaly, and it remains my one concern.
After researching this case for nearly a decade I still can't rule out that it's genuine. My main worry is that it wouldn't sit consistently with my view that the Burisch testimony is also fairly accurate, particularly given the stringent biospheric and contamination protocols Burisch detailed for even sharing the same space as the S4 J-Rods, which are clearly not being observed by the "medics" in the Victor footage.
One sensible thing to conclude is that Victor did not obtain this footage from S4, and perhaps used this as a cover story for the facility he truly did gain it from. This would seem supported by the fact that the descriptions he gave Morton and Art Bell (during his only public interview given outside of a Rocket Productions outfit) of the security measures in place at S4 did not match Lazar or Burisch's account very accurately.
Victor mentioned a retinal scan, but no "weighing in/out", nor the hand bone scanning devices typical to Lazar's account.
Another way to reconcile the accounts is to say that the protocols may have been altered/updated by the time Burisch interacted with the J-Rod he met. After all, one detail that both his and Burisch's testimony agree on is that something about the ET's they observed didn't seem "quite physical", leading Victor to conclude that they were interdimensional and Burisch, who obviously was briefed about their lineage knew them to be time travellers.
Nonetheless, if we want to say the footage was a fake, it's evaded a successful debunking from a museum of high quality investigators, many of whom were hot on this case much closer to the time it happened, for nearly two decades. We'd have a lot of empirical work to do to successfully reject it.
I recall this footage doing the UFO forum rounds over 10 years ago, this guy is asserting it is the real deal, what do you guys reckon...it is interesting.
And real, I'm 100% certain.
Here's the original documentary footage with commentary from the the whistleblower 'Victor'.
For more context and some older discussions see: The Area 51 'Alien Interview' video
I rember seeing this footage right after it was released, i had a feeling that it was real back then and now i know for a fact it is real i have seen these beeings myself they exist.
Another little snippet I thought interesting and which I'd not heard before.
At about the 23min mark of the interview he reported Doty saying he thought the origin of the being was "the Kalahari crash". That is interesting. The Kalahari incident was a UFO crash that occurred in South Africa in 1989. In fact it wasn't a crash but a shoot-down. I spoke at length with Tony Dodd myself about this in around '90, and he interviewed the pilot who fired the Maser that shot that craft down. A key detail of the downed craft was the beings - at least two survived - were "Grey-type" entities but more insectoid.
I'd never heard until today the Kalahari incident connected with the Alien Interview. If you look at the being closely it does indeed have insectoid characteristics in comparison to a traditional Grey.
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thats what i have observed myself, the skin tone is light brown/red and the face has insect type of features and is very different to the "random" grey, these beeings arent robotic and have a soul.Quote:
Posted by Mark (Star Mariner)
it could be best described as mantid head/face features connected to a humanoid body
When I saw it for the first time when it was just released way, way back ... I immediately felt it was NOT "alien" but much more like a "Bio-Robot" or a Genetic Engineered Hybrid maybe part Synthetic Biology? ... Nano + BioTech? From the Future? ... or ... Are current humans capable of doing this secretly in D.U.M.B.s like Dulce! ... See:
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If they can use a genes of a spider and mix it with a Goat ... producing a "Spider Goat" that still looks like a "normal Goat" with one difference: it produces silk not milk that is super flexible ... "spider-goat silk" is stronger than steel, super light-weight used among others for making much better bulletproof vests! ... And this was done decades ago!
Just saying.
- Now imagine they use genes of an ant mix it with humans! ... How would it look like? ... Depending on the dominance of the genes!
Part of this concept were stated by me on record when I gave a UFO lecture in 20 November 1992 at our 1st international UFO Conference held in Amsterdam ... Later I heard that part of the team who were responsible for producing "The X-Files" series in 1993 used my research and were present at our UFO Conference in 1992. I remember my sister who is a Science Fiction fan, watching the series, telling me: "hey John that is exactly what you discussed at your UFO lecture in 1992!" ... all I did is "speculating" based upon thousands of hours of deep UFO research.
Later in 1996 I was on Dutch 🇳🇱 National TV called "Nova" similar quality to "CBS 60 minutes" ALSO discussing the "Real X Files" and me co-organizing UFO Conferences in Amsterdam. Stating that part of the reported allegedly "alien encounters" called: "the grays" with large heads and big black eyes are not aliens but a result of genetic engineering! ... Secretly or from the Future.
cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳
- Me in 1996 when I was 30 years young (26 years ago):
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- Me on Dutch 🇳🇱 National TV 1996 called "Nova" discussing "The Real X Files" (26 years ago):
Listen/read carefully what I say at the 4:38 marker in this video broadcasted on Dutch 🇳🇱 National TV (stating that in 1996).
It certainly makes me wonder - how many different versions of "Greys" could there be?Quote:
Posted by seehasthats what i have observed myself, the skin tone is light brown/red and the face has insect type of features and is very different to the "random" grey, these beeings arent robotic and have a soul.Quote:
Posted by Mark (Star Mariner)
it could be best described as mantid head/face features connected to a humanoid body
Once we get to the point of having real active contact (regardless when that is), we will need to have some sort of "glasses of true sight" or something so that we can know who we are actually communicating to.
I don't think that secret hand shakes will work. ;)
we all have what you have called "true sight" ability, it can be unlocked by spiritual awakening and higher vibration of our consciousness, many starseeds are born with this ability alreadyQuote:
Posted by PatientIt certainly makes me wonder - how many different versions of "Greys" could there be?Quote:
Posted by seehasthats what i have observed myself, the skin tone is light brown/red and the face has insect type of features and is very different to the "random" grey, these beeings arent robotic and have a soul.Quote:
Posted by Mark (Star Mariner)
it could be best described as mantid head/face features connected to a humanoid body
Once we get to the point of having real active contact (regardless when that is), we will need to have some sort of "glasses of true sight" or something so that we can know who we are actually communicating to.
I don't think that secret hand shakes will work. ;)