Bill Ryan joining Kerry & David W. with Bill Wood

At 1.01 minutes on the youtube posting of this Q & A - I was amazed to hear Bill Wood say that if we "blew up" the nucleus of a hydrogen atom up to the size of a pea, the electron would need a football stadium sized area to spin around in! Wow - this is amazing & imagine the size of the area the electrons of larger atoms like Carbon would need! [Bill Wood said all this, not me - I want to acknowledge my source!]

Hi ljwheat

I like that a lot and have read two items about this before, both describing the reboot of the matrix, or an upgrade, like from XP to vista to win7, this information is around and it states a reboot every 26.000 years.

regards
roman

They seemed like two kids promised the reward of lollipops after church for remaining silent during the service. While this might have seemed odd for most, this was also a positive, trying to appreciate the exciting information they knew, but couldn't tell. But it also meant we were wasting our time beyond that point; wasn't that the purpose of the interview?

I wouldn't agree more EnergyGardener. I WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING WHICH I JUST HEARD FROM SOMEBODY, BUT YOU ARE NOT READY ( I was sure ready when I heard it) to hear whole.
Isn't it becoming cliche?

I want to say to cliche's users
HEY YOU!! If you have something to say, say it. Don't bobble it .
No time for waiting or expecting make money from it. Money will not be useful The Last minute , when the time comes.
I will promise you no one is going to harm or ridicule you if you disclose what you feel is true.

Doubt is a very healthy reaction. However the doubt on this thread seems to have spilled over into something else. B Wood is a disinfo agent, then DW is his proxy, and Bill and Kerry are their accomplices???

I am surprised no one so far has said that all this endorses Dan Burisch, who is supposedly discredited.

If you call everyone's good faith into question, what does that say about you?

:yu:

Quote:

---

Posted by ljwheat

I am going out on a limb here, -- using my internal power of dot connecting , like the interview has said to do and purpose a answer David W and Bill seem to not want to say.

The Matrix (the Glue that hold our mind in elusion (Vail) program is tied to the AI on the moon) that and the fact that we continue to move ever closer to the photon belt were not only our magnetism , electric, based systems fail, and will end our way of life. The AI alien computer program on the moon, is going to fail. That will lift the blinders and the shackles of our minds all at once.

That part of the brain that’s be hind the Vail is more than 90% of our being. From birth all we have known is this life inside the Vail of the Matrix. Once that Vail is gone, I will know all thoughts see anything I want to look at, go were ever I will just with a thought.

No power on earth has been able to knock out that computer on the moon that’s controlling everything threw our minds.

The photon belt just like in star trek entering a nebula all there interments fail , as we reach the outer boundaries all this stuff we have and ET has will start to fail. So to the AI.

Once that door of the mind opens, and we no longer have that Vail OMG can you imagine? Suddenly you’ll remember all the past lives, and knowledge stored away, plus all that is now on and on and on.

So the alien technology that was so impenetrable is going to fail, explains a lot dose it not?

With all this posturing shhhhh cant say this or that really wont matter will it? And all the rest of this BS is trying to keep the Vail in place right up to the very last moment possible. Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake. TAAA Daaa!

Love you all think about it . Namaste John:dance:

---

ljwheat,

You've been holding out on us.:yu:

Quote:

---

Posted by ljwheat

Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake.

---

Excellent movie, although a bit old and cheesy, illustrates how we are controlled.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=inZUDMGJsKo

Quote:

---

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

---

The really, really big secret, is that those who do not have heart cannot use their lower "Siddhis" abilities of clairevoyance, claireaudience, clairesentience, and the higher "Siddhis" of bilocation, levitation, and teleportation. They can only manipulate it with their technology, which is why Atlantis went down.

I did the "Siddhis" workshop with Tom Kenyon years ago and his ability to "tone" the primordial sound is quite impressive. Here is a writeup on the "Siddhis"

http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis

Quote:

---

Posted by EnergyGardener

:yu:

Quote:

---

Posted by ljwheat

I am going out on a limb here, -- using my internal power of dot connecting , like the interview has said to do and purpose a answer David W and Bill seem to not want to say.

The Matrix (the Glue that hold our mind in elusion (Vail) program is tied to the AI on the moon) that and the fact that we continue to move ever closer to the photon belt were not only our magnetism , electric, based systems fail, and will end our way of life. The AI alien computer program on the moon, is going to fail. That will lift the blinders and the shackles of our minds all at once.

That part of the brain that’s be hind the Vail is more than 90% of our being. From birth all we have known is this life inside the Vail of the Matrix. Once that Vail is gone, I will know all thoughts see anything I want to look at, go were ever I will just with a thought.

No power on earth has been able to knock out that computer on the moon that’s controlling everything threw our minds.

The photon belt just like in star trek entering a nebula all there interments fail , as we reach the outer boundaries all this stuff we have and ET has will start to fail. So to the AI.

Once that door of the mind opens, and we no longer have that Vail OMG can you imagine? Suddenly you’ll remember all the past lives, and knowledge stored away, plus all that is now on and on and on.

So the alien technology that was so impenetrable is going to fail, explains a lot dose it not?

With all this posturing shhhhh cant say this or that really wont matter will it? And all the rest of this BS is trying to keep the Vail in place right up to the very last moment possible. Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake. TAAA Daaa!

Love you all think about it . Namaste John:dance:

---

ljwheat,

You've been holding out on us.:yu:

---

Yes and No, as stated in the interview/on the internet/ art bell/ whistle blowers/like a code book its all out in the open. But the code book has been so fragmented and spread out and compartmentalized then smothered in disinformation and discrimination on those who have a vital peace of the puzzle, connecting the dots is just a walk in the park if you meditate in the heart.

You don’t have to be famous or a big shot to unravel all the knots they tie into there importance, once you know they no longer have any importance and become equals. Status is why they hold out. To hang onto there rank and file.

Once you learn the trick or magic, it only becomes technology doable. The biggest peace of the puzzle is your connection to the universal consciousness, ears to hear and eye’s to see. The Vail is now very weak and the mini me clone they have at area 51 of its mother on the moon is being for shadowed by our reaching the outer boundaries of the photon belt/our sun is weakening these AI’s affect as well as mother is dropping her magnetic shields allowing more photons to break threw.

Davids resent book go’s into how all these energy fields inter act. The biggest one as I said before is shutting down the moon. And the fog will lift. There are beings with the same powers of persuasion but not on the scale of the moon AI.

And that’s all I know the rest is all in the future that has not taken place that shakes there boots off. No wonder there digging holes to hide in. or jumping ship to Mars. Only one problem with that thinking is this hole solar system is heading into the belt of photon light. No escape HA HA:yield: namaste JOHN XX

Quote:

---

Posted by DoubleHelix

Reading between the lines I pick up a subtle undertone that suggests we're not supposed to do anything and that it's all getting taken care of. For me this is one big Red Flag.

---

Would be correct, but this is a misrepresentation in my view, instead of "don't do anything" it's rather like "don't change/stop doing what you're doing".

Quote:

---

Posted by another bob

Here's a pertinent piece on "Manifesting", which is the salient issue of this inquiry:

There is no "Law of Attraction," according to what I learned in the afterlife. The idea of a law of attraction is based on the human belief that we are separate beings from Source--that we are humans. It is easier to believe we are separate from Source, and that we can use human powers to attract something we want from the universe/Source/God, than to accept that we are actually part of the Supreme Being we worship. But we are part of Source. And we do have its powers. We do not attract anything from the universe; rather, we create what we want within the physical matter universe. We are co-creators with Source of this universe and everything in it.

---

Very good post altogether bob, the point of 'there is no law of attraction' in my view alludes to the fact, that the set of laws is not the same in each dimension of existence.

Quote:

---

Posted by araucaria

I am surprised no one so far has said that all this endorses Dan Burisch, who is supposedly discredited.

---

From what I understand, Dan was (influenced by his lady and) led to believe that Kerry & Bill have a sinister agenda, thus he stopped the contact. - This does not discredit his testimony.

Quote:

---

Posted by gripreaper

Quote:

---

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

---

The really, really big secret, is that those who do not have heart cannot use their lower "Siddhis" abilities of clairevoyance, claireaudience, clairesentience, and the higher "Siddhis" of bilocation, levitation, and teleportation. They can only manipulate it with their technology, which is why Atlantis went down.

I did the "Siddhis" workshop with Tom Kenyon years ago and his ability to "tone" the primordial sound is quite impressive. Here is a writeup on the "Siddhis"

http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis

---

Definitely a good choice of reading for certain aspects of this thread and last night's subject matter...

an excerpt

Quote:

---

As I wrote that last sentence, I remembered the Mayan calendar and its prediction regarding the powers of consciousness. According to some translations of the Mayan prophesies, at the year 2012A.D. we will depart from the Age of the Intellect and time, as we know it. If they are correct, we will pass through a collective planetary portal on that date and enter the Age of the Gods.

Indeed, if the majority of humanity reaches the level of attaining siddhic powers, we would be very much in the Age of the Gods. Only time will tell if the Mayan prophecies are correct in this regard. In point of fact, it would not take a majority of humanity to express the siddhis in order to usher in a new Age of the Gods. It would only take a small percentage of individuals to tip the scales, so to speak.

Those of us engaged in spiritual practices to accelerate personal evolution are, I believe, making a tangible contribution to the future destiny of this world. Consciousness has a subtle, yet potent affect upon the environment. Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated this.

I am thinking, in particular, about experiments on the effects of prayer conducted by Larry Dossey, M.D. There have also been extensive studies conducted by Maharishi International University on the effects of the siddhis on the environment. Specifically, when a group of individuals enters a high state of coherency, as in yogic meditation, there are distinct positive influences on the environment. These include such things as increased wellness of the individuals, decreased psychological stress and a decrease in crime. This is very interesting stuff. It shows that we don’t live in a vacuum, that our thoughts and experiences have measurable effects on the world around us.

One reason I wrote this article is to bring the concept of the siddhis to a larger audience outside the traditional yogic circles. My motivation for this? I believe that more and more of us are experiencing spontaneous arisings of the siddhis, especially the lesser siddhis. I am already seeing this happen, and suspect there will be an even greater increase as we pass through the next ten years. Knowing that they are a natural part of spiritual evolution may, perhaps, make it easier for you to accept them when they arise.

---

Quote:

---

Posted by Mulder

At 1.01 minutes on the youtube posting of this Q & A - I was amazed to hear Bill Wood say that if we "blew up" the nucleus of a hydrogen atom up to the size of a pea, the electron would need a football stadium sized area to spin around in! Wow - this is amazing & imagine the size of the area the electrons of larger atoms like Carbon would need! [Bill Wood said all this, not me - I want to acknowledge my source!]

---

If you like this kind of mind expanding description of the universe, I would suggest two books as excellent reads.

The Dancing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukov (a classic)

and The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene.

The best conclusion I can draw, as has been suggested widely, is that those who are not ready for the new paradigm will simply stop incarnating here on Earth.
Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.
There are many other worlds where 3D experiencing continues apace, and they will choose according to their needs.
This constitutes a graduation for Earth too.
It will no longer be a school of 3D experiencing, though 3D will still be a part of our experience here, of course.
The higher frequencies of 4 & 5 D will expand the possibilities of Earth life greatly, which will be much more harmonious and sustainable.
Earth was apparently once a 5D planet, but dropped into the lower frequencies for a time and is now regaining lost ground very quickly.
This is a very esoteric explanation, but there is science to support it if you look for it.

Quote:

---

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic

Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately, but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't get past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?

---

I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book. There is something very 'off' about that critter. I am not the only one who sees it. I guess she needs to play with the approved guest list.

She has to know better. Her credibility has grown recently, I feel bad she might be stuck playing the Awake and Aware game.

His last interview with Fulford was a mockery of a sincere interviewing style. He sought after sensational and lurid details. So MSM in style. He also acted distractingly at the last A&A tour/show?

Quote:

---

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic

ost of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

---

Quote:

---

Posted by onawah

Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.

---

From what I read in Drunvalo's "Flower of Life", in 5D thoughts and emotions immediately manifest. Given that, it's not hard to fathom, that many people would bounce right out of it very quickly. They'd manifest their own 'deaths' in myriads of ways.

Quote:

---

Posted by chiquetet

Quote:

---

Posted by Whiskey_Mystic

ost of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

---

Quote:

---

Posted by onawah

Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.

---

From what I read in Drunvalo's "Flower of Life", in 5D thoughts and emotions immediately manifest. Given that, it's not hard to fathom, that many people would bounce right back into 3D. They'd manifest their own 'deaths' in myriads of ways.

---

Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

Quote:

---

Posted by Bill Ryan

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

---

This reminds me of channeled info from the Cassiopaens:
January 21, 1995:

Quote:

---

"There is no time so you are already are where you are, you see, we are you in the "future".

---

and here:

August 17, 2000:

Quote:

---

Q: The Wave will happen, everything will change, become new, and that's that?
A: What matters most is what others are doing, have done and will do.
Q: Who are these others that it matters most what they have done, are doing and will do?
A: Program rewriters, i.e. you and us in the future.

---

That is an intriguing bit: program rewriters.

Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn adds this:

Quote:

---

As we said, we come from your future, and, in certain instances, we have our hands full. We need you, just as you need us.

You, as members of the Family of Light, can institute, implement, or insert a grand new probability in the chain of realities that will implode in the next twenty years from this sector of existence because you physically live on this planet. It is through you that the transformation will occur. What you do now vastly affects us. What happens with Earth vastly affects us.

---

Quote:

---

You have been hired and are on assignment from the future to catapult back into this cycle of existence to incarnate many times so that you can understand what has kept humans controlled. In this way, you can operate from the inside and change the system.

---

There had to be a purpose for truth seekers to take a 3D body, and changing the system from the inside as program rewriters, and mastering the use of unwavering belief as THE secret power may be the purpose of our lives--for those of us who feel the pull to participate.

Or perhaps feel that we are moving backwards in time, having already hooked into our future.

As the brilliant Gregg Braden has highlighted in his stories, the mantra "Already done, already done" can change matter almost instantaneously.

Watch this amazing video if you have not seen cancer disappear in 3 minutes.

This is time shifting into a future where what we want already exists.

This volume is available online here.

Now is the time to spread our wings, and remember our ancient abilities to create, to believe, and to time travel in this belief to the optimum future with outcomes that allow all life to know bliss.
..
.

Quote:

---

Posted by modwiz

Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

---

Just edited my post before you replied, maybe it's logical to step back into 4D first, as the body may be lost then and without a body no existence in 3D. - I guess I'll learn about the mechanics of it in due course :)

Quote:

---

Posted by chiquetet

Quote:

---

Posted by modwiz

Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

---

Just edited my post before you replied, maybe it's logical to step back into 4D first, as the body may be lost then and without a body no existence in 3D. - I guess I'll learn about the mechanics of it in due course :)

---

I understand what you are saying and what you mean. Such terms are still being used with some plasticity, IMO, so exactness will prove elusive at times. Your desire for clarity is admirable and appreciated, I'm sure.

Quote:

---

Posted by Kyra

Quote:

---

Q: The Wave will happen, everything will change, become new, and that's that?
A: What matters most is what others are doing, have done and will do.
Q: Who are these others that it matters most what they have done, are doing and will do?
A: Program rewriters, i.e. you and us in the future.

---

That is an intriguing bit: program rewriters.

Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn adds this:

Quote:

---

As we said, we come from your future, and, in certain instances, we have our hands full. We need you, just as you need us.

You, as members of the Family of Light, can institute, implement, or insert a grand new probability in the chain of realities that will implode in the next twenty years from this sector of existence because you physically live on this planet. It is through you that the transformation will occur. What you do now vastly affects us. What happens with Earth vastly affects us.

---

.

Now is the time to spread our wings, and remember our ancient abilities to create, to believe, and to time travel in this belief to the optimum future with outcomes that allow all life to know bliss.

---

Ah, those were the days, back in 1987-1995 with the Harmonic Convergence and such writers as Barbara Marciniak. Took me a bit down memory lane as that was also when Barbara Brennan wrote "Hands of Light" and began her school, and Virginia Essene and "See Publishing" featured Louise Hay. Big changes were happening at Findhorn, the Esalen Institute and the Omega Institute.

What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is a cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

Quote:

---

Posted by jackovesk

Hello Ilie,

Questions: Do we have to be 'Spoonfed Everything'..?

Can't we start using our own Intuiton/Intention to clear the Pathway to (T1)..?

Strategic Endeavours on such a 'Wide Scope' are never Won by handing your Strategy/Moves over to those you wish to defeat...

...am I missing something here..?

In fact, if you were to use such a 'Strategy' are you saying the whole story may be fabricated or a stretch of the Truth..?

---

& why would you EVER want "your team" just "sitting there, being open to what comes" that sounds like what you tell the "other team" to do (we are in a duality universe, this is about sides, it always will be).

this in action theme is very very disturbing.

Quote:

---

Posted by Paul

They (the powers) are playing with fire however. The backfires they are setting by seeding these various revelations are in opposition to a wildfire of increasing awareness of our human capacities, history and true science, thanks to humanity's recent dramatic increase in intra-civilization communication (Internet, cell phones, ...).

(The above is my personal view, and not that of this forum or, I'd guess, most of its members :).)

---

I couldn't agree more.. this is how I see the game being played out.

The same old tricks are being used in a new game format,, the same tricks aren't working, but the "oppressors" have nothing else in their little bag... we are starting to catch on...

Quote:

---

Posted by jackovesk

Quote:

---

Posted by TelosianEmbrace

On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-

Quote:

---

....melted in pure bliss....

---

That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

---

Yes - I was curious as to Why, they could'nt have had an Oathkeeper representative on to validate BWs Military Credentials..?

Of course I am assuming they are talking about these Oathkeepers, only because BW mentioned them several times in both Interviews, saying he was Vetted extensively by them as to maintain not only his Military background, but his Trustworthiness aswell..?

He virtually said: Being Vetted by Oathkeepers was just as, if not tougher than the Vetting he went through within the Military to obtain his 'Indigo' (Above Top Secret) Clearance...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...pxrgo1_100.png........http://intheknow7.files.wordpress.co...ogo1.jpg?w=500

Link...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/...rage-facility/

---

I am an OathKeeper, I could not speak to what Bill was saying as far as vetting, Oathkeepers was originaly started as a mostly political group, though I personally never saw it as anything but re affirming the oath I keep.

I wear it (obviously) as a badge of pride
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64...z/ca16faff.jpg

Quote:

---

Posted by gripreaper

[What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is an cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

---

2005 was my "awaking moment"

this is the paradigm shifter, the speed of knowledge propigation was (IMO) an accident,, the internet at first had so many "gains" for "TPTW" that it HAD to happen, but,,, AS ALWAYS; un intended consiquences came in and changed the game plan.

I do not feel that I know all, or even most, but I'd say at 6ish years or research since DAY ONE of "waking up" and starting to question things I'm pretty "up to speed" currently,, gives me great hope for how much faster it will be NOW; for the people just joining us... thats why I support forums like this,, news aggrigation only helps those who follow in our foot steps :)

I can't imagine what this type of thing was like 20 years ago... much respect :)