LRH (L. Ron Hubbard)

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I realise now that I was not clear enough with my question, I apologize for that. Marshall Vian Summers is not a messenger of the old testment God, which you say are trapped on the planet. He is a messenger of the GOD, the source that created all there is and all that is not and beyond, even you and me, the spirits, Metteyya, the viewpoints, the time whether linear or circular, the spaceships, the reptilians etc etc. So my question still stands:

If you are awake, aware and are the second coming of Buddha called Metteyya.... and Marshall Vian Summers are awake, aware and are a messenger of GOD (original source)

How come you have different views and teachings?

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I don't know what marshall talks about and I stay away from christian dogma ... like you are a sinner and only god has power and only power through jesus is valid ... these are all control methods to shrink your space and make you feel small and it will not free you as a being ... all this dogma was created by the priest that got together and rewrote the bible to suit them and use it to control people through religion ... I am my own maser ... if I don't see it I don't believe it ... it may be true ... who knows ... but I don't go that path because they are just running memory circuits ... dogma .. they don't really know or can totally believe it and I can prove it

when a christian comes up to you and starts running his dogma on you just tell him with surety that he is right ... and watch him go into total confusion .. and he keeps giving you his dogma and you keep saying it is true ... all these memory circuits that he has never been able to prove to himself starts blowing up in his head ... and he looks totally lost .. and then you can say ... "are you a little bit confused?"
he will say yes
you say, "would you like to handle that?"
and he will say, "yes"
so give him a book that gives facts he can see and he will buy it

you see they have a circuit to handle any kind of argument ... but they don't have a circuit to handle any kind of agreement ... and he can't prove what he says ... so the circuits blow up in his head
jim

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I understand from your answer that you haven't looked into Marshall Vian Summers message. It has nothing to do with what you describe as christian dogma, he actually walks away from the old teachings/dogmas of any religion. So I don't really understand why you label "original source" as christian, in my opinion it has nothing to do with any religion whatsoever. For the protocol, I am not into Marshall Vian Summers techings/information personally, or considering it speaking the truth. I just find the message interesting as I find yours.

But what I do not understand is why your teachings/informations appear to be so different in many parts. If you both are what you say you are, your message wouldn't differ so much in my opinion.

You have any thought about this?

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I have 4 bodies on this planet ...

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No time just now to elaborate, but I want to confirm that this kind of apparently off-the-wall information is real. Our higher selves can operate more than one identity as a human. This is addressed and processed at the very highest levels of the Ron's Org ''bridge', and was researched by CBR in the 1980s.

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This is interesting. Our higher self can operate more than one identity for sure, but other sources (I don't remember specifically which right now) also indicate that it can't all be human and all on the same planet at the same time, parallel universes - maybe, other planets - possibly, but occupation of separate bodies on the same planet can potentially cause a problem. I wonder how it fits in with the problematic and the option that these bodies may meet.

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Suddenly, the next time somebody tells me to go f myself, it will have a whole new meaning :rolleyes:

1979 I have a chance to go to thailand. someone blew up the american embassy and all thai not fully immigrated were sent back to thailand. My friend wanted me to go there and see if I can get her friend back to USA.
I got there and they put me in someones house. The lady was talking about Buddhism to me and I was talking about spiritual abilities similar to Buddhism
she said, "ok what can you do?"
I said, "I can change the weather."
she said, "ok make a rain storm."
it took about 4 days but i got the rain storm
I could feel a lot of counter intention from the Buddhas
she said, "oh we get a lot of rain here anyway."
so I shut up ... I knew she will not believe me
a second family came over to visit and they were all talking and laughing and looking at me. One of them said, "she said that you said that you can change the weather."
I said, "yes I can"
he said, "well I am a Buddhist and I can test you."
I said, "go ahead."
he said, "close your eyes and blank out your thoughts."
I did.
he asked me what I saw and I said I saw nothing
but then I said, "I can feel heat around my head."
he turned and said, "he has the ability."
He said, "what is the REAL reason you came to thailand."
I could feel there were out of bodies Buddhist observing this meeting and I guess they want to know why I am messing around with their weather
I said, "I didn't know until I got here ... but I see the Vietnamese are attacking the border .."
I told them about the international bankers and they control both Russia and USA .. and it looks like they are creating another war machine here. they use USA and Russia to make war so they can bankrupt the countries and then come in and buy up the country for pennies.
so it looks like I came here to stop this war.
he said, "oh we have Buddha's here that can just fry them .. we can just burn them up."
I said, "you don't have to kill them."
he said, "what"
I said, "you don't have to kill them"
he said, "what do we do?"
I said, "change their minds."
the whole room was silent
he said, "how do we change their minds?"
I said, "I am putting rain up there ... I am going to slow them down."
he yelled ... "it is true ... it is true ... they are in 4 feet of mud and can move anywhere."
I felt the pain and fear of thailand and I grabbed all of it and like a hurricane threw it up to the sky

the next day I was at the other house
I thought, "I wonder how long it would take to make a rain storm now.?"
in less than a minute a total clear sky became totally black
and the rain was heavier than any I have ever felt
I was drowning so I ran to the house
I got inside the house and I had a new thought for the first time, "what would happen if I moved my fingers out of the window."
I could feel an extension of me like a hand go out the window
I thought, 'what if I wiggle my fingers?"
I wiggle them slightly in and out and I actually could feel the fingers connect to the storm
the storm slammed hard into the house and then slammed hard away from the house to the exact movement of the fingers and it was very light movement
the whole house shook ..and it scared me .. I thought, "if I would have done this any harder the whole house would come down"
and I realized how powerful it was .. if you use your spiritual hands to move anything in this physical universe it will just move with no counter effort
you could actually move a mountain as if it were a piece of paper

2 weeks later I finally got an english newspaper
it said that China and Japan would get in a full scale war with Vietnam if it didn't stop attacking thailand.
the vietnames yelled out, "but we are hungry .... we are starving ... we have no food .. our country is destroyed."
the thai government said, "we have plenty of food .. we can help you out until you get back on your feet."

another week after this a total stranger comes up to me on the street
he knew my name
he said, "jim you must go back to USA.
I said, "why?
he said, "there is a heat wave there and it has killed 800 people."
I thought "OMG ... I must have left my thought of how hot thailand would be"
I was 15 minutes before landing in Los ANgeles and the man who owned the health food store whose wife was thai that sent me to thailand's head snapped up
he said, "jim's coming back"
the customers said, "what"
he said, "jim... you know jim the guy that went to thailand ... he is coming back"
the customer said, "what makes you suddenly say that?
he said, "the temperature has just started to drop in LA"
by morning the temperatures were back to normal ...

this is the first time I learned how powerful a spirit can really be .. and this was just the beginning

this spirit I am is very playful and I just have to let that part of me do what it is going to do ....it knows what it wants to do and does it and somehow relays the message to me

jim

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the only true way to handle is to go back and erase the creation of the automatic picture recording system completely and then the spirit has to learn how to operate off knowingness.

jim

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Hi Jim,

Can you describe the automatic recording system, how it originated, what it recorded, what makes it play back, and explain in detail how to erase the system? I'm not sure if I am wording the question inside me correctly, but I can't get a grasp on this part.

And it seems important to understand...

Thanks. :)

Sierra

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I understand from your answer that you haven't looked into Marshall Vian Summers message. It has nothing to do with what you describe as christian dogma, he actually walks away from the old teachings/dogmas of any religion. So I don't really understand why you label "original source" as christian, in my opinion it has nothing to do with any religion whatsoever. For the protocol, I am not into Marshall Vian Summers techings/information personally, or considering it speaking the truth. I just find the message interesting as I find yours.

But what I do not understand is why your teachings/informations appear to be so different in many parts. If you both are what you say you are, your message wouldn't differ so much in my opinion.

You have any thought about this?

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from what I learned in Japan that they could not tell anyone about me or this alien that is my type ... because it would jeopardize my mission ... and I knew that anyway
we can't tell anyone we are operating from the future because the reptilians can retaliate. this stuff didn't open up until recently ... how they managed to keep all of it untraceable...
but this game is over and we need to let people know this game is over and to get them to stop putting their attention on these fear mongers and know they are finished .... because these other people are creating this universe too .... so we need to put our attention on what we want for our new world to be like and start creating it and getting together and start organizing what we want and that will put us all in cause enough to let everyone know this is our place and doesn't belong to outsiders ...

you see they got a lot of star systems around the planet right now all trying to see what part of the game they can get into with us ... and I directly sent a communication line up ;and said, "I am an a high official of the galactic confederation and I was born on this planet so I have the first choice to who will be responsible for this planet .... this was my first mission ... they have to be invited down here ... by galactic law and we invited the enemy .... I made it clear it does not belong to any other star system ..it belongs to the people of this planet and being of royalty and woken up I am demanding my rights ... so I must get this info out so other royalty will stand up too and demand their rights

jim

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the only true way to handle is to go back and erase the creation of the automatic picture recording system completely and then the spirit has to learn how to operate off knowingness.

jim

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Hi Jim,

Can you describe the automatic recording system, how it originated, what it recorded, what makes it play back, and explain in detail how to erase the system? I'm not sure if I am wording the question inside me correctly, but I can't get a grasp on this part.

And it seems important to understand...

Thanks. :)
Sierra

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The Mind
The spirit records 25 pictures a second.
These pictures are stored in some kind of energy around the head.
The spirit being carries these pictures from one lifetime to the next.
Each picture has these perceptions.
These perceptions are everything this body and the spirit can experience.
Time, sight; Taste, Color, Depth; Solidity (barriers); Relative sizes (external); Sound; Pitch; Tone; Volume; Rhythm; Smell; Touch (pressure, friction, heat or cold and oiliness); personal emotion; Endocrine states; Awareness of awareness; personal size; Organic sensation (including hunger); Heartbeat; Blood circulation; Cellular and bacterial position; gravity (self and other weights); motion of self;
motion (exterior); Body position; Joint position; Internal temperature; External temperature; Balance; Muscular tension; saline content of self (body); Fields/magnetic; Time track motion; Physical energy (personal weariness, etc.); Self-determinism; Moisture (self); Sound direction; Emotional state of other organs; Emotional state of groups; Compass direction; Level of consciousness; Pain; Perception of conclusions (past and present); Perception of computation (past and present); Perception of imagination (past and present); Perception of having perceived (past and present); Awareness of not knowing; Awareness of importance, unimportance; Awareness of others; Awareness of location and placement (masses, spaces and location itself); Perception of appetite; kinesthesis is the ability to feel movement in the body
Personal position on the tone scale; affinity (self and others); Communication (self and others); Reality (self and others);

Tone scale of a body:
Death Apathy Grief Propitiation
Fear Covert Hostility Anger Pain
Antagonism Boredom Conservatism Enthusiasm

it is ok you can change your viewpoint on what you think these aliens up in the stars really are... just because we are more or less intimidated by these aliens doesn't mean we don't have rights they are more afraid of us then we are. because if they accidentally wake us up abruptly they may wish they never did .. ;and you must know this ...
and be sure of it ... they are all playing this gentle game with us thinking they can wake us up gently with them being in control and that is just not true. they made the mistake of trapping all the most powerful ... but of course we caused it from the future .. but they did the actions ... and if it really came to light they would have a huge apology to be delivering ... they think they can manipulate us because we don't know who we are ... but I was lucky enough to be awakened and that changed the whole show ... let's make this planet ours for real world wide and to hell with the cabal and anyone else who thinks they have a right to this place

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I understand from your answer that you haven't looked into Marshall Vian Summers message. It has nothing to do with what you describe as christian dogma, he actually walks away from the old teachings/dogmas of any religion. So I don't really understand why you label "original source" as christian, in my opinion it has nothing to do with any religion whatsoever. For the protocol, I am not into Marshall Vian Summers techings/information personally, or considering it speaking the truth. I just find the message interesting as I find yours.

But what I do not understand is why your teachings/informations appear to be so different in many parts. If you both are what you say you are, your message wouldn't differ so much in my opinion.

You have any thought about this?

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from what I learned in Japan that they could not tell anyone about me or this alien that is my type ... because it would jeopardize my mission ... and I knew that anyway
we can't tell anyone we are operating from the future because the reptilians can retaliate. this stuff didn't open up until recently ... how they managed to keep all of it untraceable...
but this game is over and we need to let people know this game is over and to get them to stop putting their attention on these fear mongers and know they are finished .... because these other people are creating this universe too .... so we need to put our attention on what we want for our new world to be like and start creating it and getting together and start organizing what we want and that will put us all in cause enough to let everyone know this is our place and doesn't belong to outsiders ...

you see they got a lot of star systems around the planet right now all trying to see what part of the game they can get into with us ... and I directly sent a communication line up ;and said, "I am an a high official of the galactic confederation and I was born on this planet so I have the first choice to who will be responsible for this planet .... this was my first mission ... they have to be invited down here ... by galactic law and we invited the enemy .... I made it clear it does not belong to any other star system ..it belongs to the people of this planet and being of royalty and woken up I am demanding my rights ... so I must get this info out so other royalty will stand up too and demand their rights

jim

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I appreciate your answer Jim, even though I do not consider it an answer to my question. So I guess you do not have an answer to my question (as I see it), but that is alright. However, that also makes me wonder why I would interpret your message as more reliable, knowledgable or valuable than that of Marshall Vian Summers or any other message out there.

But I do find your message interesting and enjoy very much to read what you have to say. I, as usual, will take those parts that speaks to me into consideration. The parts that don't speak to me, I will be happy that those speaks to you and maybe others reading this thread.

Personally, I have a different view that looking within will narrow your space. In my opinion it is vice verse, when looking within you will discover infinite possibilities and whole universes and creations. As above so below in a holographic perspective.

At the end of the day, we are all Buddhas, Metteyyas, messengers of God, infinite source, all there is and all that is not and beyond. We just have different path to approach it. None better than the other. This path is yours, and I am happy you found it. I have a different path, and I am happy I found mine. Together we might be more and less, everything and nothing at all. We might make a difference and we might not, but we will know who we are.

In eternity with peace.

InCiDeR

I have enjoyed reading this thread Jim and all.

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but this game is over and we need to let people know this game is over and to get them to stop putting their attention on these fear mongers and know they are finished .... because these other people are creating this universe too .... so we need to put our attention on what we want for our new world to be like and start creating it and getting together and start organizing what we want and that will put us all in cause enough to let everyone know this is our place and doesn't belong to outsiders ...

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This is exactly what I have been saying for years! We are powerful creators and it is so important to use your power toward what you want to create.

I love the coment and song that Whitefeather posted yesterday also.

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Our collective thoughts/consciousness as humans are indeed so powerful that we havent even begun to scratch the surface. Once we understand this power we have we can accomplish anything. What we think we become. Be careful what you wish for, history starts now.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZiJG6fW3leQ

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I made it clear it does not belong to any other star system ..it belongs to the people of this planet and being of royalty and woken up I am demanding my rights ... so I must get this info out so other royalty will stand up too and demand their rights

jim

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And thank you for this reminder Jim...I am standing right next to you!

Much love! :grouphug: Much peace! :peace: Much fun! :fun: I wish there was a :fun: icon because fun is one of the most important aspects IMHO

Quoted from Kimberly

" I wish there was a :fun: icon "


:cantina: I like this one. Everyone having fun together!

I hope this is not off topic too much, but Jiminii, what is your take on the chemtrails. In your opinion, what exactly is their agenda, and are the fake disco ball stars in the sky that twinkle/flash various colors, are they parked satellites for using mind control technology such as directed energy weapons, and in your opinion, what can we do about this now.,,and what is the best approach to deflect/stop this type of abuse coming from such weapons.

Brilliant. Thank you. I'll read it all again,
Berry

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I hope this is not off topic too much, but Jiminii, what is your take on the chemtrails. In your opinion, what exactly is their agenda, and are the fake disco ball stars in the sky that twinkle/flash various colors, are they parked satellites for using mind control technology such as directed energy weapons, and in your opinion, what can we do about this now.,,and what is the best approach to deflect/stop this type of abuse coming from such weapons.

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there is one airline that is doing it .. from what I heard ... but I don't know the link .. close that airline down ... and the chemicals they are dropping are for making people sterile ... they want to depopulate the world by 80 percent ... so they can control all much easier ...

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I hope this is not off topic too much, but Jiminii, what is your take on the chemtrails. In your opinion, what exactly is their agenda, and are the fake disco ball stars in the sky that twinkle/flash various colors, are they parked satellites for using mind control technology such as directed energy weapons, and in your opinion, what can we do about this now.,,and what is the best approach to deflect/stop this type of abuse coming from such weapons.

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there is one airline that is doing it .. from what I heard ... but I don't know the link .. close that airline down ... and the chemicals they are dropping are for making people sterile ... they want to depopulate the world by 80 percent ... so they can control all much easier ...

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they melted all the ice in greenland using HAARP to put all the water in the air to make floods to destroy farmlands and make a food crisis ... they were doing it on the oceans before but they were killing the dolphins and fish by doing it ... so they had to stop ..

this is how nuts they are .. so let everyone know this

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I hope this is not off topic too much, but Jiminii, what is your take on the chemtrails. In your opinion, what exactly is their agenda, and are the fake disco ball stars in the sky that twinkle/flash various colors, are they parked satellites for using mind control technology such as directed energy weapons, and in your opinion, what can we do about this now.,,and what is the best approach to deflect/stop this type of abuse coming from such weapons.

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there is one airline that is doing it .. from what I heard ... but I don't know the link .. close that airline down ... and the chemicals they are dropping are for making people sterile ... they want to depopulate the world by 80 percent ... so they can control all much easier ...

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How do you shut down an airline that is owned by the illuminaughty. I believe the company name goes by "Evergreen Aviation". if memory serves me right. Ironic, since chemtrails kill everything green as well as people and animals. Aren't they clever.

http://aircrap.org/evergreen-aviatio...th-usaf/33619/

Since IMO the chemtrailing is one of the biggest issues we have at the current moment, because everyone I know is ill, trees dying, bees dying(haarp/CT) this may be a good example of How the hell can we solve something this damm big with our thoughts. And I am not being a smarta**, i am being very literal.

there is a portal to the inner universes inside. You have to still the mind and focus your attention to find it. The mind will keep you busy for endless lifetimes with its searching, pondering, posturing, believing this, believing that. The mind is an excellent tool for dealing with the outer worlds. That is its function. The spiritual quest slowly pulls you away from the outer worlds.

I'm going to do a one breath sharing here because I have so much running around in my thoughts right now that it is the easiest and best way for me to get it out...I want to thank Jim again openly for coming on Avalon and opening up and sharing. And thank all of you here with love. There have been many times here that we have gotten together with our energies and worked together in clusters here and there to help help things along for the better that have gone on ...and there are many gifted and talented and smart and hard working and spiritually empowered people here that have done and are doing the work quietly and openly to help change things with their energies consistently and I feel it is time to really come together and really amp things up and help accelerate these good changes as this planet has not seen the wonderful likes of...lets not let another boston marathon incident happen. Each one of us can increase our sphere of influence tremendously especially if we do this together in tandem and unison and it can be done each in our own way without even posting or letting each other know ....I feel many here are on the edge of readiness and others subconsciously are at a place where an extreme acceleration may not quite rub in their readiness quota and that is ok we each have our own abilities and can do it to the degree it feels right but if we all really start looking at the whole big planet as our little home and send energy consistently now together for instance like sending our own higher thoughts and energy every day now to washington dc helping the white hats that are trying to make things right...send conscious and strong help to them...and protection and see and feel them bringing the truths forward with ease now...hidden technology and hidden programs that would truly pull us out of the containment of use of fossil fuels and the likes and all matters or any matter that really matters to each of us and the overall betterment of things...each one of us can really make this a combined effort just by doing it every free moment we possibly can so that it becomes engrained in our moment to moment thought process and each of us can target what really means something personally but in a very big expansive way now without shorting ourselves any more....for instance I see and feel the entire mountain energy from alaska down to the tip of south america as a beautiful loving female entity of energy coming alive with transformative power to help shift and rebirth mother earth quickly and smoothly now...that is just one little big thing...be like an expanded Mother Theresa or Ghandi or whatever resonates with you as the most expansive loving giving energy you can imagine and see it enveloping Mother Earth all the time now...anything like this that means something to each one of us can be done consistently and constantly....we really will accelerate this whole upward change tremendously now....and I once again fully understand many of you are already doing this in some way all the time now but let's just try to really expand it in such a way that there is only one way but up from here on out....anything that really altruistically matters to you...see it gathering momentum in a big way wherever you personally feel the intention of higher change should go...expand it to the most unimaginable imaginable degree you can...and where else can we possibly make this happen in the biggest way possible but right here together...where we come almost daily to check on things....let's combine our energies intentionally to make a momentous push forward....share more here
...and this sharing of mine may seem a bit childlike to many and that is fine by me...let it loose with the intention that it really is create our own happy world time...just really focus on what really means the most to you and see you floating around Mother Earth making right what you know needs to be righted and actually doing it with your very own loving immense power...simply because you can and we all can, now! Let's really make this forum higher family affair.
And again..for those of you already consistently doing this, thank you from my heart...
we can turn this place into one very BIG loving heart of unison and change: )

You're right eaglespirit. I m sorry that I get overly passionately overwhelmed about the chemtrail subject. I will try to focus on the positive and visualize beautiful blue skies, they way they once were. Visualize all those chem tankers lined up on the ground somewhere, out of use. Visualize true fresh air and healthy people. Am I on the right track?

Thanks Eaglespirit, Fred, and Judy Moon, and everyone.

This thread has an overwhelming range of topics.

One specific reality among many.

Guru of the month?

There's nothing wrong with anything.

But which "enlightened" reality is better than another?

we are more powerful than any group in this universe ... but we have to get our spiritual space out there as big as this galaxy is and bigger ... put our space out to cover the not only this galactic governments but all the neighboring galaxies ...
you see there is a viewpoint to all the neighboring galaxies that this planet and all the entities on it is just a pain in the a***** ... not worth bothering with .. and we won't be if we don't make our presents felt .... this is not hard to do ... practicing getting your space out there ...
just get the idea of the space of just your body
then get the idea of the space of the room
then get the idea of the space of the apartment
then the building
then this part of the city
then the city
then the state
now get the idea of the space of just your body
you can see the difference
now get the idea of the space of the state
the country and the hemisphere ,., the planet ,,, this solar system .... the galaxy ... all the neighboring galaxies .... this quadrant of the universe .... the entire universe ...

add 1 more universe to this one ... add 10
now you have enough spiritual space to put something in it ... and we do have the power ,.. you just have to get rid of consideration that you are a weak body .. you are not
you can not imagine the amount of game we are playing .... you only have to decide you are cause over it.
this means that you are senior to all considerations and all beings everywhere ... you have to get the idea there is NO COUNTER INTENTION ANYWHERE
you are senior to ALL OF IT ....
then your thoughts will happen
we need a lot of the most powerful doing this ,.,to show them we are worth handling
thought is senior to ALL PHYSICAL UNIVERSE MECHANICS ,,... and we are senior to all of it
but you have to decide you are and then put the thought that the cabal is being stopped by the governments up there and we the people are in charge of this planet
then decide they put us into the galactic governments system ... so we can be heard ... and then they will be able to remove the cabal ,.
we have to bypass the cabal .... that means those who can do telepathy must act and locate those up there and get them to recognize us

according to free zone LRH is up there and is part of the senior counsel and can be a voice for us if we stand up as a collective

you can do this
let's get it done

jim