Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit

If they were so amazing I can't figure out why they can't figure out how to heal psychic intrusion. Maybe they weren't as good as you'd like to remember them to be, and there are actually some people out there better at it than they are .

What technology? Once one understands the nature of the technology one can understand how to thwart it. Once I understood the TV was rotting my processes I turned it off.

That sounds flippant and facetious but I'm serious. You said these were people of mind, body and spirit experts not that they were technologically savvy. Maybe that's where they failed at.

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Posted by wynderer

Justoneman , it may be new paradigms to you, but to me, not so new -- in the '80s, when practicing massage, i was fortunate to be a part of an amazing group of women involved in healing arts, of the body & of the mind, in the Annapolis/DC area -- i learned, experienced, & used in my practice most of the psychological/astral healing modalities posted about [often at great length] on this thread -- Steve Richard's method is not so new...

thses techniques do not work on the new technology they use in abductions -- time to look for new solutions, i'd say

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Posted by wynderer

if i understand you correctly, you are saying that the root causes are found in the mind /aka psychology of Humans -- the Humanist p.o.v., extended to interactions w/ETs/archons --i.e., Humans & their minds as the source & center of creation -- indeed, the very pinnacle

here's a quote from my post at the top of this page about which i'd hoped you'd comment:

'there is another experience i had that i'd thought i'd never share w/anyone other than w/the few friends i have already -- it ties in w/Dana writing about the technology used against her, & how all the psychic self-defense tools do not work against that technology [a point i have made before on this thread]'

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Posted by 9eagle9

No...... we are moving into the source causes of how archons, abductions, and rituals now. There's only so long you can talk about the problem (which can manifest in seemingly endless ways) , without going to the causes and then the solutions. Archonic activity, abduction, and ritual are all similar in the source cause of how they begin occurring. They are all violation and compromise and there's a root cause to it.

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Posted by wynderer

i'm not seeing much about archons & abductions & the rituals in recent posts -- just saying...

my bad, too, as i entered the discussion re yes or no/benevolent ETs

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I think you may start to be able to see how you are creating your own blockage. The points 9eagle9 shared in her great post 1760 was not presented in any way to be some universal, all encompassing examination of our problem. She only explored one aspect of that and from her point of view.

I mean this from my heart, wynderer... try opening up and not seeing each of our posts as attacks on your current paradigm. Why not consider the information as complimentary to what you currently believe and consider exploring the new possibilities of a new paradigm by experimenting with incorporating the new information into your world view.

Well, anyways, that has been what has been effectively working for me. I keep exploring viewpoints and it has been tremendously freeing, empowering and produces actual, tangible, measurable improvements in every part of my experience.

Written from true, heartfelt love

justoneman

EDIT - Just to mention, John Lamb, who is considered an expert by many concerning The Archons states very clearly the issue of the Archons is an attack upon the human mind. If his assertion has any truth to it, an individual human can only assist themselves in dealing with Archontic influences by better knowing how the mind works, so from that perspective, discussions involving this component of the entire human complex is likely essential if we are ever to find a collective solution.

I doubt my above statement could be disagreed with by anyone who truly seeks solution. I am so, so, so motivated to explore solution but can only speak for myself in this regard.

Additional EDIT: In fact, I discovered (thanks to Amzer Zo's recommendation I revisit the Steve Richard's interview) that "consciousness" as Steve Richards represents it is quite precisely the same thing that 9eagle9 described in her post #1760. I respect Amzer Zo and so I respect his recommendation and despite my initial egositic response I made, I quickly reconsidered and am I sure glad I did!

Let's obtain solution!! For those who come after us if not for ourselves now. Bill thinks it will take generations... I make my bet on "sooner."

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Posted by wynderer

Justoneman , it may be new paradigms to you, but to me, not so new -- in the '80s, when practicing massage, i was fortunate to be a part of an amazing group of women involved in healing arts, of the body & of the mind, in the Annapolis/DC area -- i learned, experienced, & used in my practice most of the psychological/astral healing modalities posted about [often at great length] on this thread -- Steve Richard's method is not so new...

thses techniques do not work on the new technology they use in abductions -- time to look for new solutions, i'd say

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And here is the rub - your statement is stated as universally true as if you are the only authority on the matter. Anyone who might be seeking help for their own abduction problem that reads your statement could very well sink into despair. Look at what DoT experienced from a similar post a few days ago? I cannot understand why you would want to put these types of statements out there. It is truly mind blowing and frankly, in my view, unacceptable.

Perhaps Bill is right... generations.

So, to be direct, I do not believe you nor anyone else comes from the proper place to make such a statement.

Apologize in being direct, but your statement left me no choice.

justoneman

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Posted by 9eagle9

BANG. You hit it right on the head. And this is the part that lights me up; there are many facets to this to be explored, but we have to keep our emotions out of it. Or emotional attachment to certain ideas.

The thing is ...people are reaching out to YOU for help, you aren't imposing it on them. You get to that point you have to make a determination. Does this person really want help or do they just want an audience to play in their mud pies.

Like I said earlier when we create a space where we are reflecting that we really want help perhaps something will happen. If we stay in reactive victim mode we are not creating that space. If we keep creating a space to be reactive victimsare we going to be shocked that only abusers show up?

Earth may very well be a big universal melting pot; like America was supposed to be a big melting pot. We seen the conflicts that arose (and still rise) here in America because we were the convergence point of many races and many cultures. What if the same applies to many ET races some good, some bad, some....INDIFFERENT.

You would help your child because he is your creation, you brought him to life. There is a biological connection there, an emotional connection. HOW we help them is due to the nature of their problem. Sometimes doing nothing for a person means you are not enabling them. AA and NA drug addiction programs are very expressive of this. Often times people's help is enabling. Sometimes not saying anything is enabling. That's when you learn to pick your battles.

This ties right into the "ET's are responsible for our existence for our creation." That could be true. I don't think they are responsible for every person's genetic background. If ET's are responsible and there's a lot of different species out there that means we'd all be different in inclination and that means a lot of conflict will arise from that.

Some people claim to be starseed or of ET origins, okay they perceive their forebears, their creators are obligated to them....for something. I'm not going to argue it but.....I've never gotten an authentic discussion from people making such claims. Or an authentic expression of this. Because I don't have an emotional attachment to those sorts of ideas I explore all sorts of questions that people get angry about. Maybe some species of ET were like Johnny Appleseed, just planting roots and then wandering off never to return to see how the trees were growing. Why? They figured their purpose was done there or maybe they didn't care.

Some human men are like that...lol. Some forms of animals drop their kids and run--mostly those of REPTILIAN genesis (he he) . Lay some eggs and take off. Cold blooded animals. Warm blooded animals don't do this as much, but I think there are a few --they aren't coming to mind if they are.


Are the scientists that splice animal genetics in their lab emotionally caring toward their creations or do those creations get dumped or forgotten about without any thought as to their well being at all. We have certain breeds of animals that we have compromised introducing respiratory problems and hip dysplasia. Do we stop breeding bulldogs and german shepherds? No.....do we go back and correct what we did. No. Do we help those animals that have these symptoms or do we put them down....eventually. It depends, just because we created something doesn't necessarily mean we can fix it if some of my cooking is any meter of any of this.


I have not yet had an honest answer exactly what these genetic off planet ancestors should be offering to people. Maybe they figured they added their genetics and that sufices. For the people who make these claims I'm not believing or dismissing them, I simply don't see any expression of having those origins. "I come from a highly advance race of ET's that developed the means of multi dimensional travels; they have translucent skin, light shines out of their ears and they have prehensile lips. ."

Okay if this is genetic how come you don't look like that or are able to travel multi dimensionally. Why don't you at least have prehensile lips?

This is genetics, afterall, whatever they provided to you should be expressing in you genetically speaking there should be SOME evidence of what one is saying. I come from a specific race or bloodline on both sides of my family. That is expressed through me mentally, physically etc. I know what they know, I do what they did, and I look like historical accounts of my forebears and it sure explains a lot about what I was already expressing. OTHER people noticed these expressions before I even knew what it all meant or even knew this bloodline existed. Their racial pecularities are expressed through me on a level that has nothing to do with what I think. I actually resisted the notion for a long time because...it just sounded unrealistic until....I realized its the reality of the expression not what my conscious mind is thinking about it.

Messiah complex does mean you want to save everyone. Messiah complex can also mean that you are looking for someone to save you . Forwards and backwards.

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Just for the record, I chose to mention the "messiah complex" as that was a component more so of my past and has been in resolution process ever since I discovered that one of the Horus-Ra entities (and perhaps others) attempt to implant that type of programming within me (I believe this occurred when i was 6 years old).

I described what i experienced in this thread -

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-experience

and note that a fellow poster in post #7 suggested this was indeed an abduction experience which for some folks gives me some greater degree of qualification to post on the matter.



I was able to discover this during my Drake era and then finding this thread last April 26th and believe I have gone "through" that component and all but dropped it such that it is essentially relegated to my past. We shall see.

In fact, the only reason I am responding to some of the other recent posts is not at all intended to "save" the one who stimulated my response post, but to give an alternative the view to someone who might read "there are no solutions to "their" current technology"... someone that may be seeking solutions for themselves some examples that solutions have been found, at least by me, justoneexample.

What people are saying Wyn, is that those things do not work for YOU.

For whatever reason.

You are not every body.

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Posted by wynderer

if i understand you correctly, you are saying that the root causes are found in the mind /aka psychology of Humans -- the Humanist p.o.v., extended to interactions w/ETs/archons --i.e., Humans & their minds as the source & center of creation -- indeed, the very pinnacle

here's a quote from my post at the top of this page about which i'd hoped you'd comment:

'there is another experience i had that i'd thought i'd never share w/anyone other than w/the few friends i have already -- it ties in w/Dana writing about the technology used against her, & how all the psychic self-defense tools do not work against that technology [a point i have made before on this thread]'

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Posted by 9eagle9

No...... we are moving into the source causes of how archons, abductions, and rituals now. There's only so long you can talk about the problem (which can manifest in seemingly endless ways) , without going to the causes and then the solutions. Archonic activity, abduction, and ritual are all similar in the source cause of how they begin occurring. They are all violation and compromise and there's a root cause to it.

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Posted by wynderer

i'm not seeing much about archons & abductions & the rituals in recent posts -- just saying...

my bad, too, as i entered the discussion re yes or no/benevolent ETs

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Posted by Daughter of Time

Wyn,

Thank you for your story.

Do you know who the good guys are?

Did they tell you where they come from?

Did they inform you as to why you were targeted in the first place?

Did they give you any clues as to why they waited so long to show up to help you?

We know a lot about the bad guys, so if you have any information to share about the good guys, it would be welcome.

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Thank You DoT, and this is (in my opinion) the very most important question to get answers about. I highly respect Truman Cash and his experience (as far as he has reported upon) is sans of any "good guys" though he recently established what he characterized as a "good relationship" with a Gray (I have seen some folks use "Grey" and have no clue which one is more correct).

Anyways, based on my experience which has been almost and only what seems to be "non-physical interventions" and though one particular "personality" I came to know always came across as quite wise and never lied to me nor ever caused me harm from my best perception and perspective, I am of the opinion as of now that there are likely no benevolent non physical, non human nor non earth born human beings that are interacting with us earth born human beings.

I want to believe there are! And in fact, I want to so, so badly that I won't believe there are unless I have a direct experience with one that is.

Even this one, isolated voice I have been able to communicate with, I am highly skeptical about because a.) it is just a voice and b.) how do I know this voice is not also one of the other voices which did lead me to harm myself?

So I am extremely skeptical there are any "good guys" at this point in time.

Having said all that, there are folks I highly respect who have recanted experiences that I interpret to suggest there are indeed good guys. In some cases, these folks I highly respect stated they believed whole heartedly these were good guys.

I hope one day to know for certain myself and I hope that what I know would be that there are. justoneman

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As always, it is very difficult and nearly impossible for some to believe things which are outside their frame of reference.

I know I've posted this before: When Columbus first reached the new land with 3 ships and white men, the aboriginals could not see either the ships nor the white men, and these were physical! They could not see them because ships and white men were outside their frame of reference. The shaman saw them first because the shaman was operating from a higher level of consciousness and he taught the others to "see". I hope this is not seen as going off topic because I'm trying to make a point.

There are many who have never had encounters with dark forces, so they believe that dark forces do not exist but that they are merely a construct of a troubled mind. This is what psychiatrists, more or less, make their patients believe, and this is why psychiatrists never cure anyone. Again, not trying to go off topic...

If you have had experiences with only malevolent beings, then that's what you will believe. This much is logical.

Although my experiences with malevolent, non physical beings, far surpass the experiences with benevolent, non physical beings, I have had experiences with benevolent non physical beings too. The list of these benevolent non physical beings visiting me is short, but it does exist. On top of my list is Yeshua. And this is what he has said to me:

"THERE IS NO FORCE OUTSIDE YOU WHICH IS GREATER THAN YOU. NO MATTER HOW FRAGMENTED YOU FEEL, YOU ARE STILL WHOLE AT YOUR CORE. YOUR WEAKNESS IS AN ILLUSION CAUSED BY THOSE WHOSE AIM IS TO DESTROY YOU. AND IF YOU GIVE INTO THAT BELIEF, THEN YOU WILL BE VIRTUALLY, DESTROYED. THE ANSWERS ARE WITHIN YOU. YOU MUST FIND YOUR OWN SOLUTIONS AND REGAIN STRENGTH TO BECOME IMPENETRABLE TO THE PERPETRATORS. NOT ONLY MUST YOU BECOME IMPENETRABLE, BUT YOU MUST REGAIN YOUR FULL BELIEF IN YOURSELF SO THAT THE PERPETRATORS WILL NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO HARM YOU. UNLESS YOU LEARN TO DO THIS, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RISE TO A HIGHER DENSITY. THEIR AGENDA IS TO PREVENT YOU FROM RISING TO A HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE ONCE YOU ARE THERE, THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TOUCH YOU AGAIN. THIS CAN BE DONE, AND DO IT, YOU WILL."

For those of us who have always been targets and have sunk to the low vibrations of worry and fear, a word from these beings who operate from a higher density is very helpful and encouraging. I will have to remember those words whenever I feel lost or read discouraging thoughts. This is easier said than done, but done, it must be.

My wish for you Justone, is that some day soon you will experience the presence of a benevolent non-physical being. I'm not even remotely suggesting that you rely on them or ask them for help. I just wish this for you because it's such an elating experience and once you've had that experience, you will never forget it. You will still have to do your own work in freeing yourself, as we all do. But it is comforting to know that we are not alone when it comes to benevolent beings.

Thanks DoT for post # 1785. I am an optimist and I do believe I will one day have this experience. justoneman

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Posted by wynderer

an afterthought : Elaine Douglass suggested to me that abductees are being used as prototypes -- that they [archons/the controllers] are developing & refining techniques on/thru us that they will then use on all of you -- genetically -specific, of course

makes me kind of nervous -- that whole 'transhumanism' thing, turning Humans into bio-robots [the Earth Human form of the growing army of Greys] -- & that abductees are starting to report the use of technology

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Well, they sure haven't turned me into a robot.

Though I have to admit, my creative and psychic abilities have been decimated, but my sensitivity hasn't.

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Posted by wynderer

sigh ,,,,, i am not talking about psychic intrusion -- i am talking about technological intrusion -- psyches of various kinds creating & using the technology, true, but still technological intrusion

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Exactly, you are talking about the physical reality component of the entire archontic experience as if this is all that matters.

Nowhere did 9eagle9 suggest that her comment was aimed universally at all forms of archontic attack.

She clearly stated that her opinion is that if there are advanced beings of a benevolent nature that are inclined to intervene in some helpful way they have apparently not done so in any noticeable way with regards to the psychic attacks, one of the entry points for some entities within the entire archontic structure that may (and likely) includes physical entities that use technology of a physical nature in their process of abductions.

Why do you imply her statement to be universal?

In addition, you seem to imply that technology is limited to the physical world but surely you do not mean to do so, do you?

It almost smacks of materialism in that only the physical world exists and which happens to be the very goal of the archontic forces for humanity to sink into believing. And this has been reported by just about every authority of the subject of archons and has been the pointed out by David Icke over and over as a potential point of no return.

I would hate a reader of this thread to only consider one's physical world experience with regards to what may in fact be the very most significant issue humanity on earth is dealing with at this time. justoneman

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Posted by wynderer

pls read my post -- my long post -- about my RVing & the techno payback attack -- this thread & my posts on it are not a philosophical discussion for me -- i am fighting for my life -- & not against wimpy astral attacks

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Maybe "wimpy" for you but manifested very real for me in that I acted upon a pounding voice in my head and experienced two serious suicide attempts. Get a grip, though your experience is unique, does not mean that the only experiences of attack that duplicate the ones you have had are the only ones of any authenticity. I am amazed you can't see this and I am having difficulty in letting this go because this is a public forum and there are many who may be seeking some knowledge of this matter so they can obtain resolution for their own experiences of attack.

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Posted by wynderer

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Steve Richards's method itself is new. The tradition he drew it from is at least 60,000 years old... that's Atlantis to Roman "civilizations" SIX TIME OVER.

As for benevolent ETs and their dilemna, Alex Collier friends kept repeating to him: "baby-sitting," in all attempts at it have always failed. It has never worked and it never will."

So... we are left with these boots... and they have straps... so that we boot-strap ourselves out of this imposed hypnotic trance.

Speaking of hypnotic trances...

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thses techniques do not work on the new technology they use in abductions -- time to look for new solutions, i'd say

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Says who? The ETs you can trust? All they need to do is convince one under hypnosis that they are using secret, new, unbeatable technologies and their job is nicely done through one being utterly convinced it can't be done.

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Posted by wynderer

Justoneman, i think your issues are more of the psychological nature -- & thus of course you find the psychological posts of help -- also you wrote, i believe, of some association w/ some 'Dragon' society -- not trying to be rude or critical, but, to me, you thus opened the door to some of your problems

i always test as psychologically healthy [like many abductees -- see John Mack] -- i don't hear or listen to voices in my head -- my issues are not in my head -- i do not feel special because of my experiences --

still waiting for you &/or 9Eagle9 to read & comment upon my post

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Again you post as an authoritarian - my "associations" with Dragon societies have been in the form of someone who has studied their concepts but never chose to join. This assumes all Dragon societies are evil and/or under archontic control which I do not share in that view.


And again you forget it was you, wynderer, who stated that what I experienced was an abduction experience (of a physical nature).

"Hi justoneman -- that sounds like an abduction experience to me --"

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post477022

Why the selective memory? Why restrict everything to physicality? Is that because you are not willing to consider solution for you (and others) could occur through the entire being of the human being which most of us do not limit to just the physical body? Yes, I focus more on the entire being, Why? Because those who have achieved resolution have done so by not denying their non-physical components such as their emotions, their mind, their ego, their soul and their core, the Spirit as I have discovered I am... perhaps I am deluded or perhaps I am the only one to have these components of my being.

I saw my issues as related to each and every component of my being. I am of the opinion that unless one works with their entire being, they will not likely ever experience resolution. And you have stated several times you continue to be abducted.

Seems logical that you might consider what everyone here has suggested, save maybe observer, the last several pages.

I think I have been able to make my final points. Likely you will have a reply, but I believe I have reached the end as to this part of the discussion.

I wish you well, justoneman

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Posted by wynderer

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One is entitled to wonder why they bother if indeed "they don't work so well."

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If you are not technologically savvy how would you know that certain sorts of technology is futile to resist?

I read all sorts of horror stories about what sort of doomsday technology 'they' have, and I read just as many accounts from technologically savvy people how to counter that sort of thing. Dr. Pete Peterson seems pretty savvy to me , technologically speaking, and while seemingly a bit reserved on certain matters, he didn't seem to carry the doomsday flag. Maybe his knowledge makes him secure.

As long as people are controlled by psychological compromise there's no point in them having to employ high technology. The ptb after all has a great of money, and there's no point wasting a 10 million dollar bullet when they can compromise someone's psyche. Especially against one person.

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Posted by wynderer

the technology is not just physical -- that is one point i am trying to make -- i am not of a techno mind, so the only way i can express it is that it spans both 3D & 4D

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Again you post as an authoritarian - my "associations" with Dragon societies have been in the form of someone who has studied their concepts but never chose to join. This assumes all Dragon societies are evil and/or under archontic control which I do not share in that view.


And again you forget it was you, wynderer, who stated that what I experienced was an abduction experience (of a physical nature).

"Hi justoneman -- that sounds like an abduction experience to me --"

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post477022

Why the selective memory? Why restrict everything to physicality? Is that because you are not willing to consider solution for you (and others) could occur through the entire being of the human being which most of us do not limit to just the physical body? Yes, I focus more on the entire being, Why? Because those who have achieved resolution have done so by not denying their non-physical components such as their emotions, their mind, their ego, their soul and their core, the Spirit as I have discovered I am... perhaps I am deluded or perhaps I am the only one to have these components of my being.

I saw my issues as related to each and every component of my being. I am of the opinion that unless one works with their entire being, they will not likely ever experience resolution. And you have stated several times you continue to be abducted.

Seems logical that you might consider what everyone here has suggested, save maybe observer, the last several pages.

I think I have been able to make my final points. Likely you will have a reply, but I believe I have reached the end as to this part of the discussion.

I wish you well, justoneman

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Lol. ALL of our issues are psyche related, not spiritually related. Psychologically healthy does not mean spiritually expressive. By whose standards did you test, the ptb standards?

Wyn Seriously. By your own self admission (and not by any opinion I've formed about you) you've claimed to be a warrior but adopt these doom day attitudes, by your own self admission you've admitted to being emotionally immature and over reactive towards certain topics relative to this one, you claim to be not techno savvy but seem convinced that no one can compromise their technology. While I appreciate these admissions as honest admission, it does lend a certain factor in what what I accept as a 'credible' source and one not so credible.

Putting all that together why do you think you can convince us that we should accept your opinions as the truth?

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Posted by wynderer

Justoneman, i think your issues are more of the psychological nature -- & thus of course you find the psychological posts of help -- also you wrote, i believe, of some association w/ some 'Dragon' society -- not trying to be rude or critical, but, to me, you thus opened the door to some of your problems

i always test as psychologically healthy [like many abductees -- see John Mack] -- i don't hear or listen to voices in my head -- my issues are not in my head -- i do not feel special because of my experiences --

still waiting for you &/or 9Eagle9 to read & comment upon my post

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