What was the helping hand Chris 82 and how did you noticed it?
What was the helping hand Chris 82 and how did you noticed it?
In my opinion we are most vulnerable when we first begin to awake. And I dont mean posting on forums, how we are gods and co-creators and how love and light is our motto.
No. I mean true awakening .
Like being drunk one night, and suddently experience the overwhelming feeling of being connected with everything, a feeling of profound love towards all Creation, animals, humans, everything...a feeling that makes you cry and smile at the same time.
If you start walking this path, you get noticed, and they will try to derail you. You are vulnerable because your vibrations are not high enough, you dont know how to deal with them and also you can experience traumatic events that can really set you off course.
Constantly feeling their presence by day, and having the most horrible nightmares EVERY time you go to sleep ... you need help and guidance.
But the Universe that decided to awake you in the first place, decided that IT wants to act and speak through you in the future , knows when to step in. You suddently meet ppl that can help, you feel a higher loving being holding your hand. No words, no channeling, just holding your hand.
I got lost many times in the so called astral world. One time i was in a particularly bad place to be. If you dont know how they operate..well they like to get you in a paralized state and then do nasty things to you , like leaving you with 0 energy, programing , and you can even wake up with other entities in your body.Quote:
Posted by Flash
So like i said, even if you have some experience in dealing with them sometimes you get caught on the wrong foot. When this happens i noticed there is somebody watching over me, and manages to abruptly wake me up.
I dont think many ppl realize , what the astral world is, and why it's very important to our daily reality. How the two dimensions are closely linked.
I believe the astral dimension is the gateway they use to enter this dimension. I believe some of the most important answers can be found there.
From my perspective, that makes sense. Almost all of my unusual experiences happened in my teens, a period where I was reflecting heavily on life, looking for answers and having epiphanies. I experienced many minor "incidents": OBE's, sleep paralysis, unusual dreams, terror attacks, and one traumatic nightmare involving a Reptilian.Quote:
Posted by Chris82
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Althought I don't have the same knowledge as members in this thread, I thought I'd share more about my experiences from my perspective.
With OBE's, I never enjoyed it because it was at first unwilling minor experiences that I could not control. The farther I went was the ceiling of my room. I made it stop because I felt I was not informed enought to experience it. I willingly tried it again in my early 20's but did not pursue it because I think it led me to awaken in a dream state surrounded by greys around my bed. At that time, I read a book about abductee's experiences and I surely did not want to go there. So, I felt I had nothing positive to gain from OBE'S.
Sleep paralysis events were associated with the presence of a black shadow being (human in form). It wasn't too scary but it was very disturbing. I would wake up in my sleep, not being able to move or see, feeling a dark hand touching my hand and moving. It felt distinctively real, very very physical for a dream state. Each time it happened, it felt it was weird and uncomfortable. It developed. After a while, as I was not seeing any positive in this "interaction", I asked it to stop. I did not allow it or them to contact me again. That was it.
Terror attacks were the worst. I'd wake up at night in a state of full fear, around the same time (12 or 2AM). It was always the same thing, I was instantly in terror, my heart racing, my mind was totally convinced that a demon was about to materialize in front of me. I could feel it, sense it, almost perceived it. The layer between the immaterial and the material felt really thin. I would deal with this idea for hours, until physical exhaustion. Each time, I tried hard to control my fear, but that was useless. I tried to make the demon go away by confronting it, getting mad at it, asking to go away, without success. My fear grew only stronger and the idea more real. So the last time it happened, I changed my technic and saw my mind as a part of my body I had to regain control over. I forced my mind to refocus on a different idea, and my fear began to decrease, the grip lessened and the idea of a demon faded away. After this, I never experienced night terror attacks again.
Each of us are different. But if my experience is of the norm, and considering I am now pretty well past the difficult stage, I can say that what you stated above is very, very true. When I was dead asleep, I didn't seem to have much troubles though I would classify that version of me as borderline psychopathic (I was extremely self centered... thought I was the beginning, middle and end of the entire universe... just ask my Mother) - but then at around age 19 I had my first awakening experience (though I also realize it was heavily archontically managed) and then not until recently have I been able to turn the tables on the whole thing, "take back my soul" so to speak, isolate the demon(s) inside (can be viewed as "the ego monster") and move that little bugger to the side such that my truest self can begin to run my own personal show.Quote:
Posted by Chris82In my opinion we are most vulnerable when we first begin to awake. And I dont mean posting on forums, how we are gods and co-creators and how love and light is our motto.
No. I mean true awakening .
Like being drunk one night, and suddently experience the overwhelming feeling of being connected with everything, a feeling of profound love towards all Creation, animals, humans, everything...a feeling that makes you cry and smile at the same time.
If you start walking this path, you get noticed, and they will try to derail you. You are vulnerable because your vibrations are not high enough, you dont know how to deal with them and also you can experience traumatic events that can really set you off course.
Constantly feeling their presence by day, and having the most horrible nightmares EVERY time you go to sleep ... you need help and guidance.
But the Universe that decided to awake you in the first place, decided that IT wants to act and speak through you in the future , knows when to step in. You suddently meet ppl that can help, you feel a higher loving being holding your hand. No words, no channeling, just holding your hand.
I got lost many times in the so called astral world. One time i was in a particularly bad place to be. If you dont know how they operate..well they like to get you in a paralized state and then do nasty things to you , like leaving you with 0 energy, programing , and you can even wake up with other entities in your body.Quote:
Posted by Flash
So like i said, even if you have some experience in dealing with them sometimes you get caught on the wrong foot. When this happens i noticed there is somebody watching over me, and manages to abruptly wake me up.
I dont think many ppl realize , what the astral world is, and why it's very important to our daily reality. How the two dimensions are closely linked.
I believe the astral dimension is the gateway they use to enter this dimension. I believe some of the most important answers can be found there.
Having said the above, I had a dip a few weeks back that I am still unhappy with (as to how I handled myself). The point of this statement is that the word - "vigilance" is the key. I suspect once one has "gotten on the radar" of these archontic energies, forces and even 3D humans who perhaps align with elements of the archontic structure, one is wise to maintain vigilance and well, in my case, I feel it is my personal responsibility to do so. Why I say that is because once one has an understanding (through direct experience) as to how most of this seems to work in our material/spiritual/empty dynamic, they have the ability to be of greater influence to others and thus one's responsibility with others (and oneself equally) is (to me) critical.
Anyways - just opinions... note: I say these things in part because I am a firm believer in one's personal integrity. By talking the talk, I am further held to walking the walk (which is material world manifestation of the talk).
justoneman
Wasn't Joan de Arc French?? Anyways, I agree 100%.Quote:
Posted by Chris82
If there is one chance in one million bazzilion we could turn the tide such that the world we leave to our children has a clear shift from its apparent (to some) current direction then I am all and only about focusing on the how and manifesting that how in any way I can.
It is difficult indeed to be amongst those who "appear" to have given up or to have projected such a bleak picture that it seems we are hopelessly trapped, but I learned through some recent mistakes that there's only two choices as to how I can (at this point) properly handle those situations - the first choice is to lead with love as expressed through compassion (emphasized by the creator of this thread as well as many others) and if I see myself falling short, then know I simply must step aside until I can once again find it within me to allow compassion to lead my every thought and deed (which includes my postings in Avalon).
Anyways, I will never give up and in fact, I am certain I am one of those types that would always choose to return.
justone
Hi Beren, I hope you are able to answer the following.Quote:
Posted by Beren
I really enjoy your energy and for that reason, ever since I first discovered you as a member of Avalon (on Vivek's Drake thread under Conspiracy) I would always take my time in reading and absorbing your posts. The above post is of particular interest but I am a bit confused in some parts, so I hope you will help clear up my confusion. Note I left your entire post in tact but will now isolate where I am confused.
You start with -
"It`s impossible to neglect the fact of the sheer power the soul has. A soul is a direct offspring of the Source - God-Creator."
and then further down you state -
"All souls and spirits that became demons and monsters in this or that reality were one time God`s pure souls."
So my confusion is this - do you see "soul" the same as "spirit" and if not, please help me understand how you view each.
Thanks, Beren... Chester
Well, either this, or a series of insanely coinceidental events is apparent in my life: my girlfriend has been going through soooo many of the "symptoms" of the abduction phenomenon, which has increasingly intensified as I learned (especially from this thread) and tried to share this info with her.Quote:
Often times the abductees will undergo extensive physical examinations only to be told by their physicians that there is nothing wrong with them. If anything they find the by-products of the illnesses such as infections and the like but seldom find the root source of the problem let alone a cure. These types of imposed illnesses can plague abductees for years. These illnesses come up again and again within the life experience of countless abductees and yet for the most part they are not considered to be an aspect of the abduction syndrome.
When the reptilians have decided that an abductee has gone "too far" they will exact their preferred method of retribution which is Cancer. It is an excruciating way to die and the reptilians extract every last iota of physical and emotional anguish from their victim until their demise.'
The other night I had a bizarre "battle" with "demons" jumping in (or surfacing) in her. The first episode (of about a dozen, ending with something using her to try to scratch then bite me, then herself) was one that may have been actually HER...looking wild-eyed at "someone" beyond me--she told me "they want to hurt you, you have to stop seeking them".
I found out last night, that a couple days before, on a day I somehow "forgot" her appt I had been so looking forward to where the ENT docs would analyze her MRI, that it revealed an inoperable brain tumor. She hasn't been able to give me any other details yet, though I am determined to not "forget" her next appt in a couple weeks.
Maybe it is coincidence and this physical thing caused her to act in a way that I would totally relate to this archon/abduction ****, maybe it's some sort of bias on my part--I expected an implant, who knows, maybe it is.
I just know that I experienced something directly retaliating to me giving her information (light), that when she's herself (& outa out house) she's totally receptive (if not a little scared), and whether it's demons or dementia, she has told me on several occasions "she's blocked", culminating into the warning the other night, which lead to attacks when whatever was trying to stop me did not believe I would stop (I tried telling "them" I would, they obviously knew I wasn't being honest).
Hi justoneman;
Glad to hear from you :).
Soul is the spiritual entity. It`s always a part of Creator despite that soul being aware of this or not.
Even the darkest demons and wannabe Satans are still a part of Creator despite their disbelief.
Simply you cannot be severed ,you can only imagine this. Your own conscience might lead you on various paths and you may do atrocities beyond count and spend an eon without communing with God but God actually never left you and you never ever lost the connection with it.
All what is needed is your own call from innermost depths of you.
And God is there---he never left...
But in his Love God allowed you to experiment and chose what you will do. With choices came repercussions. Key was to learn of "get" the meaning of action and reaction. Sowing and reaping.
Here comes a spirit as a term for us in bodies.
Spirit is an energy that moves.
How ?
It moves in all ways,dimensions.
Sheer energy and core energy.
God is a spirit. Formless and formed in countless variations in existence since all is God`s creation-energy-spirit.
Whatever one spirit chooses to do God will feel this and indirectly or directly without direct possible (or with -depending from the current awareness of particular spirit or soul) spirit or soul`s knowledge.
We are souls, God`s sparks with full potential to be God.
We are also called spirits in our natural state as pure intelligent energy.
So it may be one and the same but it may also mean that a spirit is sheer energy and a soul is an entity.
We as souls can experience everything.
We can be fires in Volcanoes around the universe or light emitted from stars or gasses in space or plasma in space.
But we can only do this in our original state of being- a spiritual energy called soul.
In body we live different experience and cannot play with elements like we can in spirit form.
I hope I cleared the thing for you.
:)
Anyone who has had any sort of negative interaction with any of what we call the "archontic forces" or had astral realm difficulties or negatively viewed abduction experiences owes it to themselves to review this link from one of our Avalon friends, Jenci -
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post545024
The interview with William Buhlman begins (as Jenci states) at 40 minutes - fascinating and rings as very likely all true (at least for just this one experiencer, Chester).
It supports my own recent views that my "abduction experiences" may be in part, due to where I was at with regards to my core level of being... where I was at my "Spirit" level... at a vulnerable place due to the fact that at some point in my Spirit journey prior to these specific abduction experiences, I allowed my "soul" to be usurped (meaning I gave away or allowed to be captured my Spirit's sovereignty which was accomplished by losing control of my own "soul" - ala Steve Richards for example).
That the more I explore this avenue, the more I feel empowered in my quest at "freeing" my soul from the perceived external grip such that I can become, once again, the truly free and sovereign spirit being I believe I once (and originally) was.
Truly... anyone seeking any resolution really should at least give this interview a listen. By listening with an open mind one might just loosen up enough such that the dam springs a leak and this leak leads to an eventual bursting of the dam... like has happened with me over the last several weeks.
Best to ALL! justoneman
On the "solutions" thread...
How many of you want to go beyond discussions and take the archonic/demonic forces and their minions "head on"?
There is a way to do that... it would put your life (and possibly your sanity) in jeopardy but if a core of people is serious enough about taking that on I will post a way here (again it is not without risk).
It involves work, investigation, communication and going into areas where you would probably not want to go. You would also need to have a robust psyche and a functional "spiritual immune system".
Houman
I dont think it's a good idea ; think of how many bright souls will want to help, not really knowingQuote:
Posted by Houman
what are they getting into. How would you feel when things will start to go really bad for them?
Instead , maybe you can PM some users , that you feel have the strength and power for what you are planning.
Just a thought (and awaiting PM :) )
It has to be open and public to work.Quote:
Posted by Chris82I dont think it's a good idea ; think of how many bright souls will want to help, not really knowingQuote:
Posted by Houman
what are they getting into. How would you feel when things will start to go really bad for them?
Instead , maybe you can PM some users , that you feel have the strength and power for what you are planning.
Just a thought (and awaiting PM :) )
Hi Houman,Quote:
Posted by Houman
What do you envision when you say that (take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on)?
What would be the objective?
To ban these forces from the face of the earth?
Hi, I am going to jump in here for the first time on this thread. I haven’t read it all (though a considerable amount) and by no means have found the time to watch all the video links but feel I have some experience in some of the areas spoken of here and have been following with interest what some feel may truly be a solution (being a solution oriented person). Part of the reason I haven’t made any comment prior to now is mainly because, although I have some time to read and make an occasional comment, I am mostly too busy to make the lengthy well thought out commentary of the many I read here. The other reason is because of the people in my life who seem to be a target for unwanted attention whenever I give this whole topic too much attention. I actually had to leave Southern California a year and a half ago as a result of trying to help my then 16 year old daughter’s boyfriend with what I can only call some type of possession. I was way out of my league but didn’t know this until I tried to “help”. I found out that he had consciously and with some level of intent given a part of himself away to what he himself recognized as dark forces (he's well on his way to success as a musician btw). Within 3 months I had to move away as a result of what he (and by that I mean him and whatever for he truly wasn’t himself anymore) was doing to my daughter’s mental health. They hadn’t even been together for many months before he asked me for help.
Quite the experience. Just before we left he told my daughter in great detail his plan to kill a mutual acquaintance of theirs and that he would kill her if she told anyone. Well, she told me, I told the police, and we moved shortly thereafter. It actually didn’t end there either. I also quit asking what other’s thought had really happened because of the truly bizarre responses I got. I even had one lady tell me he was possessed by a berserker and wanted me to contact some unknown person who knew how to kill it. My husband also seems to be a target on occasion although not really since we moved away. We would even smell sulfur in the air when we lived in our boat along the delta in Central Cal. And within a short period of time some major weirdness would break out with someone in the resort/marina where we lived and on occasion it would be my husband suddenly behaving not himself and whacking out on our daughter in a strange verbal fashion that seemed out of character. We would even talk about it afterwards and recognize what had happened. I would venture a guess that could be why many people don’t want to jump out there with their stories. I will never quit questing for the truth but can’t help worrying about some of the more vulnerable people around me. Just thought I would throw that in there as I think any solution would have to have a multi-faceted approach and take others around you into consideration.
Hi Spiritwind,
That is some story!
The music industry is a particular segment of society where dark forces seem to dwell.
I saw a video recently which attempts to expose this phenomenon.
It's one of the best efforts that I've seen so far.
It is a bit religious in some parts, but the insights in the industry seem real.
To me this video felt appropriate in this thread.
If not, let me know and I'll remove it.
What you are revealing here is very appropriate to this thread. IMOQuote:
Posted by Wakytweaky
YES!!! I have been (impatiently... one of my defects) waiting for your ideas along those lines and Houman... I truly believe I am ready to help.Quote:
Posted by Houman
I will calm down now.
Ok, Yes, Houman, please, let's explore this... and in this thread if you deem that the best place (any thread in fact - your own new thread if that is best). I was all but ready to suspend my thread anyway based on some new information.
What a great day this is! I apologize I am so enthusiastic. (yes, yes yes yes yes...)
Chester (justoneman)
Yes!Quote:
It has to be open and public to work.
I think it's very possible some of us have "implants" or even hidden entities within our bodies that report back to their masters. Whenever large groups get together in search for REAL truth ,it's an instant red flag for them. Working together on this puzzle that was broken in thousands of pieces, is the only way we can ever solve it ; and they know it.Quote:
Posted by spiritwind
I too would like to see Houman's idea.
The only real confirmation that we are getting close to the truth, would be when they start attacking at all levels, targeting individuals, maybe going as far as trying to shut down PA website.
I'm not saying this to create fear. Fear is the first thing one has to leave behind when looking for the truth. But iI do think it's important to anticipate , much like in a chess game , what they are going to move next.
Hi Houman, if what you're proposing is based upon anything besides love and compassion, I would be extremely leary.Quote:
Posted by Houman
I'm just sayin...
Cheers,
Fred
It involves missing children/people and human trafficking...Quote:
Posted by WakytweakyHi Houman,Quote:
Posted by Houman
What do you envision when you say that (take the archontic/demonic forces and their minions "head on)?
What would be the objective?
To ban these forces from the face of the earth?
[Mod-note: beware - the next four images are graphic and upsetting. -Paul.]
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...9ll3o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw...dbf0o1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...qz9po1_500.jpg
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this is the one "thing" that they don't want to see exposed because it is a Pandora's box, if you open it everything comes out, from satanic ritual, MK Ultra to human processing facilities...
it involves finding these missing people/children (those that are still alive, some are kept alive until specific ritual sacrifice dates) and blowing the whole thing out to the open...
as I said there is some risk involved, if you are not already familiar with it, watch these and you will understand (people in very places have been working very hard to keep that thing "shut" and you will getting in their ways... when that thing "opened" a bit in Belgium it lead to demonstrations with more than 1 million people in the streets... Marcel Vervloesem was framed and jailed for trying to open that box (he is still in jail))
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/24...phile-Networks
in 5 parts (elite pedophile networks in 5 parts with English subtitles)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cB18plt2i6U
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wydJ0xwe_K4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=M_2JmGjPffg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T18O0G5RCaQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=rpBkiPUku6A
Les reseaux de l'horreur (in french)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0IkA-6Q1L4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ClRTu...feature=relmfu
Do you still want to go there?