Next Friday every Friday, the combining thread

Remodeling the thread after 5 pages of moving directions:


I truly like the direction this thread has taken.
•The scientific explaination against the 12-21-12 apocalypse predictions.

•The input of astrology, but seen as a science, to contradict the apocalypse talks while explaining the overall situation.

•The spiritual side of things that is coming out as well.

•The conclusion that Avalon is about science and spirituality, should I add TOGETHER

•And now, the impact of natural science on the human biology, which in turn may have an impact on behavior and on spiritual development.

Do you realise guys/gals, that we may be actually doing, in an open public ground and group undertaking, the first ever workable combination of new science, old science (astrology and alchemy), spirituality, behaviors and biology, all this for an overall understanding of change in humanity. (I am aware that some may have done it individually).

I wish to bring balance between what science discovers, what people on the spiritual path know as much as science, in order to clear a path for global understanding and possible implementation for the laymen. I do not know if it is achievable, but it is worthwile to try imo.

I do encourage everyone to continue to use this thread in this purpose, combining science, human abilities and spirituality in one place. And linking each of our posts together for a more complete understanding.

This means this is a facts bringing thread on the above aspects with a particular effort on making links between the facts and the posts so that understanding of the human potential will be made easy.

Thanks again for the great participation


My first post was originally this below:

I did not know if I should put this video in the future talk or the general discussion, since the future here is one week away.

It was posted in the James Horak thread by Calz. Hip Hipnotist mentioned it should make a thread by itself. Which I believe it should.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post597069

It is the alignment of our Sun with Alcyon (the Pleiades sun around which our sun revolve), Sirius (the galactic sun around which Alcyon revolve) and the the central Sun and it explain as well the cloud we are entering, the 3 nights days, the ,time slot where there is no time anymore and the collapse of dimensions.

The visuals are stunning, and everything is explained in visuals, which makes it very easy to understand.

So, here it is:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rxMym...layer_embedded

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Published on Nov 28, 2012


Everything you wanted to know about '2012' but didn't know to ask.
I WANT Your Comments & Thanks for Beta Testing this Video!
Heard of the Photon Belt? Pole Shift? Precession of Equinoxes?
Nibiru, Solar Storms, The Mayan Calendar or Biblical Prophecy?

With over 30 yrs in Radio & TV Broadcasting, Boulder Professor Marc "The Arcturian", Grandson of Warren Buffet's Mentor, Benjamin Graham, takes you on this Galaxial Tour in:
"The Most Comprensive 60 Minutes On "2012" Ever Assembled"

Over 4G/1,200 Photos, Clips, Animations, Slides and SFX went into this video of Disneyesque Proportion even Bill didn't know you could make when you let a deranged professor play with his PowerPoint2010 60 Day Trial Version for three months!

Every Man, Woman, and Child on Planet Earth should see this...
...in the next 23 days.

You or someone you know wants to see this movie.

"IF Mani Narobe and I are right,...in 3-4 weeks,
none of us may even remember this video."
-M*

May The Force Be With Us All

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I did not know if I should put this video in the future talk or the general discussion, since the future here is one week away.

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Perhaps I should rename that forum to be "Present Talk" (and then rename it again in a few weeks to be "Past Talk") :rolleyes:

This Friday, the Hobbit:An Unexpected Journey opens in the USA. I am expecting many gorgeous visuals. I will be watching it in typical film format, although the high frame rate 3-D version is available at the theatre I will go to. Then I will tune into next Friday.

I have my priorities straight. :wizard:

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This Friday, the Hobbit:An Unexpected Journey opens in the USA. I am expecting many gorgeous visuals. I will be watching it in typical film format, although the high frame rate 3-D version is available at the theatre I will go to. Then I will tune into next Friday.

I have my priorities straight. :wizard:

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You sure do! :wizard:

YOU....SHALL NOT....... PASSSS :wizard:

so far i love this video, hes easy to listen to :) definitely sharing this

the Quake hit San Diego right after the Hobbit ended last night when everyone had gotten home...

3 people that went were Awake for the Quake...

I think this video is great, explaining what is happening, 2000 years to finish passing through this band of energy, so just to confirm, the Sedona Crystal Worshipping Votex Gurus, say we are hitting the center point...

so which is it, have we been passing through it for 1000 years already, and have 1000 to go before we pass out of it?

or, are we just entering the energy now with 2000 years of extreme energy ahead...

seems like Nasa or one of the space agencies should have info somewhere saying what is happening...

hard to believe at this day and age, we need to wait for the Galactic Federation of Light to send info because our government with their $billions in equipment haven't seen the alignment...

I enjoyed watching this..
so, is that alignment really happening?
moon, earth, sun, plejadies, sirius, centre of galaxy all in a line....

does anybody know?
thanx

meat

thanks all for listening, what I enjoyed the most was seeing the sun running fast with all the planets with him forming a vortex. I could not understand how it works if it were'nt for a visual.

This video was great. The presenter had a lot of fun so I found myself smiling throughout. My only scientific issue with this was whether we are orbiting Alcyone or not. There is no mainstream science that I've ever found that confirms this. But if it is so, it is amazing. Even if it is not so, even NASA has admitted that the alignment this 21st of Dec. is a grand alignment. Soooo .... fun times immediately ahead!

BTW, what was that all about at the beginning of the vid talking about the Presenter hasn't been heard from since? He did what he did in 13 hours and headed out for the hills, eh?

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I enjoyed watching this..
so, is that alignment really happening?
moon, earth, sun, plejadies, sirius, centre of galaxy all in a line....

does anybody know?
thanx

meat

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No, it's not. (Astronomical fact. Do check it out...!)

Bill, can you give us a good link for checking that out?
Thanks.

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I enjoyed watching this..
so, is that alignment really happening?
moon, earth, sun, plejadies, sirius, centre of galaxy all in a line....

does anybody know?
thanx

meat

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No, it's not. (Astronomical fact. Do check it out...!)

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Bill, physics and astronomy are not my basic expertise. So yes, I do enjoy such a video, knowing I will learn something and that some false information may be in it as well.

But not being my expertise, I cannot always know what is wrong with the theories and moslty, where to start in order to get informed, in a way that will be simple to understand. A bit like short wave radio transmission can be in terms of mechanics for example.

Therefore, it would be very much appreciated if you were giving us a hand in finding out the basic information.

Thanks

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Bill, can you give us a good link for checking that out?
Thanks.

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I enjoyed watching this..
so, is that alignment really happening?
moon, earth, sun, plejadies, sirius, centre of galaxy all in a line....

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No, it's not. (Astronomical fact. Do check it out...!)

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Well, the sun is roughly aligned between earth and the galactic core at this time of year. The galactic core is in the rough direction of Sagittarius, and we are now about to enter the time of year when the sun rises and sets near the constellation Sagittarius, and hence near the center of the Milky Way Galaxy (from earth's perspective.)

The moon goes around earth monthly. We had a new moon on Dec 13 (just passed), which is when the moon is on the same side of the earth as the sun. We will have a full moon on Dec 28, which is when the moon is on the opposite side of the earth from the sun. On Dec 21, the moon will be sort of half way between.

Sirius is the Dog Star in the constellation Canis Major -- it is part way off to the side, not on the line between the sun and the galactic core.

Pleiades (the Seven Sisters) is a star cluster in the constellation Taurus, which is now even further off to the side, roughly 90 degrees away from the line between the sun and galactic core.

You can see the stars and galactic core on the map below (but not the moon.)
http://thepythoniccow.us/wgalchart.gif
The galactic core is the darker grey region in the center, between Sagittarius and Scorpius.

Canis Major, with Sirius (a big yellow dot, for Sirius is the brightest star in the heavens, but for our sun), is well to the right, and Taurus is both at the far left and far right edges, where the image would wrap.

So earth, sun and galaxy line up - amazing - only happens twice a year :). Three out of six isn't bad.

(Sorry for the big image, but it was rather a nice one.)

thanks for clearing that up Paul!

I looked at the sky last night thinking , how on earth are these plajadies going to get in front of sirius for next friday...
.:der::plane::bounce::flame::laugh::pound:

just to be clear are you saying all these people who have talking about the rift, the galaxy line up etc. are just totally blowing smoke? While I can see from your map what you are saying but that does not seem to take into cosideration that all of these bodies are spiraling. Something not well known or acknowledge. These spirals appear in a lot of ancient stone symbols and seem to make sense as a new way of looking. Also a lot of spirals in the crop circles.

I have never been able to make up my mind what to think. I hang with Hancock that ancient people went to an awful lot of trouble to leave us messages in a way that would stand the test to time. While we may not have all the pieces yet, not seriously considering what the message might be would be a serious mistake.

So thank you for your fine research as usual but does it eliminate the totality of this presentation? I have to ask because I do not have enough math or astro knowledge to have any discerment I can rely on.

The above star map changes slowly for us earthlings, as our sun revolves around the galactic core about once every 220 million years, and oscillates above and below the galactic plane on an approximately 66 million year cycle. We last passed (let's say "up") through the galactic plane about 3 million years ago, and will pass again, going (let's say "down") the other way, in about another 30 million years. Right now, earth (and sun) are about 75 to 100 light years away ("up") from the galactic plane. The definition of the galactic plane is a little fuzzy, hence the imprecision in this distance.

The signs of the Zodiac, relative to the seasons here on earth, change more rapidly, on about a 26,000 year cycle. Right now, the winter solstice (shortest days in Northern Hemisphere) happens when the sun is rising near the constellation Sagittarius. In 13,000 years, it will be the summer solstice that happens when the sun is in Sagittarius. Whether this 26,000 year cycle is best explained as a wobbly earth (precessing like a child's top) or whether it is better explained as the entire solar system orbiting around a shared center of gravity with some other such large mass (perhaps the dog star Sirius) is subject to some debate. The later possibility would mean that our sun was part of a binary star system, which is fairly common.

The last paragraph probably only made half sense. Try looking at it this way. The earth is tilted some 23 degrees (quite a bit) relative to the solar or galactic planes (which are pretty close to each other.) The earth's seasons happen as the earth goes around the sun each year. In the Northern summer, the north pole is tipped toward the sun, and in the Northern winter, six months later, when the earth has moved half way around the sun, that very same tilt of the earth leaves the north pole tipped away from the sun. Currently, give or take many years, it so happens that the Northern winter (north pole further from sun) occurs when the earth is on (what I call) the "back side" of the sun, which the side of the sun away from the galactic core. The orientation of the earth's tilt keeps shifting however. In about 13,000 years, we will be having Northern winters when the earth is on the "front side" of the sun, between the sun and our galactic core.

Normal people who are into astronomy or astrology don't speak of the sun's front and back sides as I do. They speak of the signs of the zodiac, and of which of these 12 signs, spread around the sky, the sun appears to be "in" (meaning "in front of, from earth's viewpoint"), and relate that to the four seasons on earth. As the earth revolves around the sun every year, the sun appears to be "in" each of these 12 constellations, for about one month each. Also the astrological ages are based on where the sun appears at the vernal (spring) equinox. The sun has been in the constellation Pisces at the time of the vernal equinox for the last couple of thousand years, and we are now entering the Age of Aquarius, when the sun will be in the constellation Aquarius on the vernal equinox for the next couple thousand years. These astrological ages reflect the 26,000 year cycle described above.

In the previous paragraph, I used what's called the sidereal zodiac, based on where the sun appears relative the celestial background. Apparently most astrologers in my culture use some other Zodiac calendar called the tropical zodiac, which is nearly a month off, and which I don't understand any better than I do anything else involving astrology. In the sidereal Zodiac, as I write this, we are leaving Scorpia and entering Sagittarius. Apparently in the tropical Zodiac, we have been in Sagittarius for about three weeks already.

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just to be clear are you saying all these people who have talking about the rift, the galaxy line up etc. are just totally blowing smoke?

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The alignment with the galactic rift is happening right about now :).

In recent years, and for a few more years, the sun will appear to be positioned right in front of the galactic rift on the date of the winter solstice (Dec 21).

The galactic rift is the dark region all along the center line of the Milky Way galaxy, as seen from earth:

http://thepythoniccow.us/galactic_rift.jpg

It's those other stellar alignments listed above, such as Sirius and Pleiades, that are "scattered to the four winds" (or whatever they call what blows about our galaxy), and the moon that is off to the side on Dec 21, neither full nor new.

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I hang with Hancock that ancient people went to an awful lot of trouble to leave us messages in a way that would stand the test to time.

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The best explanation I've found that makes sense to my way of thinking, and that explains why the Mayans would consider what we call Dec 21, 2012 to be a particularly special date is in the following paper: http://thepythoniccow.us/Did_Extrate...as_Razzeto.pdf

Roughly, besides the approximate lineup of the earth, sun and galactic core at the time of the earth's winter solstice, some of the planets, as viewed from earth, are arranged in a 'cross".

It does not signify any great energy shift or geological disaster, rather just a nice, rare alignment of what can be viewed from earth.

The following video provides an interesting perspective on a couple of the subjects discussed in this thread.

https://youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W1RIlcCZG4Q