The Reincarnation Trap

Here are two articles i found recently both from the same website that have differing views on this subject that seems to be gaining popularity recently with may alternative researchers agreeing with this manipulation of souls.

The first "How To Exit The Reincarnation System" http://in5d.com/how-to-exit-the-reincarnation-system/, describes a system where we are tricked and recycled life after life as slaves on a prison planet and offers a solution.

The second has a different point of view. Is Reincarnation A Trap? http://in5d.com/is-reincarnation-a-trap/ I find this article very interesting as offers of view of reincarnation that differs from the generally accepted ideas and the view that i have held. It then goes on to describe reincarnation beliefs from the perspective of different cultures, and then suggests that going to the light may not be the trap that has been suggested.

I do think its important to look at at least two sides of a concept before making a decision. What happens after death is a mystery to me though a fascinating subject. It does seem that the only sources of information we have on this are from religions and those who have NDE's.

So i wondering if any members of this forum have any further information to contribute.

Love and Peace

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Posted by cryptoguru

I have proposed that we live in our own universe and continue to live the same life over and over again with the only difference being that in the next life cycle we may have a better environment depending how bright our "neu" or "inner spirit" is and a worse environment if it is very dark.

The only way to exit this cycle is to become a "neu spirit" which means your "inner spirit" has attained enough energy to escape the cycle of life and death and be able to exist as a conscious entity without needing a body and be anywhere and everywhere.

This is what was experienced by Jesus, Buddha and other prophets and saints and now they are all "neu spirits".

So we are reincarnated every time in a copy of the earlier life and it is an aberration when a "neu" enters another body for reasons I have not yet explored or dawned on me.

Therefore it is important to awaken our "neu" and energize it in each life through meditation and living a "neutral" life and eventually escape the infinite life cycle.

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Thanks for your reply, what you say does seem to go along with the traditional view about reincarnation as taught by religions and mystery schools.

I was more interested in discussing the subject along the lines of the archons interfering with the natural cycle of reincarnation and trapping us here with a false past life review and a memory wipe.

It has also been been said that the corrupt demiurge created all the worlds religions as a means of perpetuating this system of slavery through many incarnations. http://montalk.net/gnosis/171/corrup...f-the-demiurge

What you truly are can not be captured, interfered with, changed in any way and is eternal.
Chris

With respect there have been similar threads and some will believe this so and some will not.
However the mind creates illusion to order and if you truly believe that something is out to get you then it may well do so.
That does not really happen but in the illusion of duality it will certainly seem to do so.

Chris

I understand that we have three bodies (soul, spirit, and physical). In conception the physical and spirit body are created and the soul that god created attaches to the spirit body. In death, the physical body's connection to the spirit body is released so that a spirit body/soul body complex remains and lives in the spirit world (same place as the dream world). People who die who believe in reincarnation think they have to return to a physical body force themselves into a new one thinking they reincarnated when they only possessed the body. Many millions of children have been born deformed and with illnesses transferred to them via the karma (distortions) of the possessing spirit) due to this harmful belief in reincarnation. All forms of "proof" of reincarnation is only evidence of spirit communication, sharing of memories/stories from spirits, possession and influence and attachments.

Reincarnation is a belief about how to spiritually progress, however, how to do it is to remove karma from the soul which can be done as a spirit. Being that the belief in reincarnation says you have to return in a physical body to progress that belief is not provable but instead is provable as a non-truth because you can progress as a spirit. So there's no need to reincarnate. It's impossible anyway because a spirit with a spirit body cannot attach itself to another body with a spirit body (making two bodies). What it ends up doing is a spirit who over-cloaks a new soul is violating that new soul by taking away its free will and superimposing its will upon that body and disallowing that new soul to develop on its own.

As far as I'm concerned teachers of the past invented this theory because they didn't know how to become enlightened and so they assumed it would take them more than one lifetime and misunderstood what spirit possession is all about. I, for one, am not going to lend my body to a spirit who believes in a delusional idea like reincarnation so I can veg and ultimately drink the intellectual kool-aid/beliefs that cause people to stray from a real spiritual enlightenment path that one can accomplish in one lifetime as a new spirit.

Love and Peace

This is the only thing that you need do for vision, happiness, release
from pain, and the complete escape from sin, all to be given you. Say only
this, but mean it with no reservations, for here the power of salvation
lies:

I am responsible for what I see. I chose the feelings I
experience, and I decided on the goal I would achieve. And everything that
seems to happen to me I asked for and received as I had asked.

Deceive yourself no longer that you are helpless in the face of what is done to
you. Acknowledge but that you have been mistaken, and all effects of your
mistakes will disappear. ~ACIM

Just adding my input. The system is automated, going into the light is wonderful, the rest period is wonderful, not going into the light is not wonderful and leaves one experiencing various things repeatedly that aren't pleasant, the living can assist some of the restless into the light very much like the Ghost Whisperer series (I have on occasions, over 150), we are forced back into another life but we go willingly and happily when the time comes, there is a small amount of choice involved in that, archon's are an ancient race of reptilians who somehow draw on dark energy and are "sustained" by it, these reptilians set up the current order of humanity to cyclically stir dark energy by which they feed, and .... (breathe lol) ... the neu spirit mentioned above is very accurate and attainable for each of us. Run on sentence :)

I can expand on any of these points if desired, if not, my input is be mindful of Chris's words - fear not basically. No need to create more than is there. We are powerful :)

Much love. I love this post string :)

Love the empowering words EmX! The exercise is difficult for someone who has been in an extreme absuse situation but if they are strong enough to pull it off and let go, wow ... talk about empowered. Thanks for the insights :) Much appreciated

it has nothing to do with power, Bashar has said whatever is in your universe is you, we each have our own universe and reality

http://www.projectavalon.net/Truman_..._Eye_of_Ra.pdf

The eye of Ra by Cash, an Avalon member talks about his abduction experiences and his discovery of the reincarnation cycle.

http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/20...worker-part-2/
[David Cameron’s web site he talks about reincarnation and the ET

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...annah+henniner
I channeled/was mind controlled to write a book and part of what the ET’s told me was we will no longer reincarnate.

The in5D website is famous for its fiction.

The only trap that exists is our own ignorance of the truth... and the stories we choose to accept... written by people, like the in5D website, who have nothing better to do than dish our their fiction created in their ignorant minds.

Reincarnation is a fact of life and each of us will continue to return until we have reached a consciousness level which will allow us to proceed to the next higher world... of non humans.
We have all had thousands of incarnations... and most have thousands to go... and anyone who fancies them self as some highly evolved being who does not need to return will have a very disappointing revelation when they leave their current body.

We are each at different levels of consciousness growth and it is often almost impossible to tell who his ahead of who unless you have achieved Causal consciousness... and if you don't know what that means then chances are you have a long way to go still.

Of course there are many non humans who have incarnated into human organisms... but they are here to assist humans to reach the world where they come from... and you may never even know that the person standing next to you at the bus stop is actually non human... scary hey :)

The truth is... and this comes from my experience, so you should certainly not believe it, but rather find out for yourself... that any fear that we might have that comes from all the stories of doom and prison planet etc we read about... is nothing more than non-sense... how would it be possible to trap or capture a monad/Self... which is what we all are... when the people who say someone does, does not even know what that is... and what it is capable of?

Take care now and lets all get on with our consciousness growth by being nice to everyone and avoiding conflict.

Love is the way and unity is it's path.

Ray

I have glimpsed four past lives of mine. I did not see a light with my NDE. I saw two of my uncles telling me I could go with them if I wanted. I don't know if my pagan beliefs influenced what I saw.

Cat

Love and Peace

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Posted by EmEx

it has nothing to do with power, Bashar has said whatever is in your universe is you, we each have our own universe and reality

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IMO I would take whatever Bashar says with a bucket of salt :)

If that is in deed what he said then what he actually means is that we each create our own reality... but this only happens to us whilst we are still ignorant of reality... because the truth is that there is only one reality... and it is this reality which we strive to reach to end our incarnations here in this planet.

Ray

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Posted by cryptoguru

Beliefs are Beliefs without hard evidence. So far I have not seen any convincing evidence of reincarntion.

But I and many others have experienced DeJa-Vu and that for me is evidence enough that there are copies of every second of our consciousness in another parallel universe and sometimes we are able to peep into one from another.

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You will never find hard evidence with the level of consciousness you have... as you grow in consciousness level the 'evidence' will just jumps out at you during one life... then you will know it and not believe it.

There is also no such thing as a parallel universe... have you also been reading Bashar?

He actually meant literally, also he says there is an infinite number of parallel universes and we switch billions of times per second from one to another, this is how movement is created.
Also if we each not have our own reality where do the people and things go when we go to sleep? or when we don't think of them?

And to top it all of A Course in Miracles says that this world does not exist at all.... so we are back where we started.

I find your POV interesting but sometimes you seem to be so sure that only your view is right and the others are wrong.

Love and Peace

What God did not create does not exist. And everything that does exist exists as He created it. The world you see has nothing to do with reality. It is of your own making, and it does not exist. ~ACIM