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The whole Mandela-Effect got big in the mid of 2016, im not going to explain it here in detail since there are already alot of other threads about it.
I wanted to start this Poll because i feel this topic is not so big here and iam interested for how many members this phenomenon does exist.
My wife is one of those folks who remember the Sinbad Shazaam movie. Anyway, a few days ago she had this moment where she was convinced she had to go check on our two year old son and at the moment she was changing the diaper of our 1 and a 1/2 year old daughter. She looked down at our daughter and didn't recognize her for a moment. And for the record we do not have a 2 year old son. This day also coincided with her not being able to start our car. I went out and it started right up, she got in and went to the store where she called me and said the car still wouldn't start. I drove down to the store and the car started right up for me. While there she noted while I was starting the car I had to put it in neutral first. She asked why I was doing this. I was perplexed to no end when explaining to her that our car has had this minor defect now for about a year and this is the first time she has ever had a problem with it. I also informed her that it was she who had discovered the defect.
This bothered her and continues to bother her to no end.
If I bring it up she shuns the topic stating that it causes her internal pain to bring up. Normally I would give her an understandable amount ribbing over this, but I do not being as it causes her to kind of hit panic attack mode. This is in regard to the car starting that is.
I should also note that we lost a pregnancy in 2014, the baby was a boy and would have been two years old right now.
So my answer is yes, I feel this Mandela Affect has somehow someway manifested in my life.
I am sure I have experienced it several to many times. The "several" refers to experiences which were dramatically unusual and appear to be due to the Mandela and the "many" refers to experiences that are probably Mandela. As I mentioned elsewhere, Bashar claims that these shifts happen all the time but are too subtle for many to be aware of. I also suggested looking up Angela Donovan's Malta presentation in which she shows film footage of what she claims is / are time shifts.
There is still a copy of the Berenstein Bears, spelled Berenstein, in my family. I am going to try and get it from the person who has it, for posterity.
[just another opinion]The more widespread the "Mandela effect" rhetoric becomes, the more I will become convinced it is yet another psyop/BS-ability test like "flat earth."
Misremembering people/events is simply misremembering. We all eat, sleep, go to the bathroom, ...and we all have some memory lapses. I think it is very clever to blend that with the concept of alternate timelines, and declare that something really DID happen in the past, because we (mis)remember it as being that way. I accept my own shortcomings of my memory.[/just another opinion]
Dennis i realy understand your point here, and i would think the same as you but its realy not like you think at all, this is realy happening for some people and its not based on"bad memorys".Quote:
Posted by Dennis Leahy
I got a few of these Effects that im more than 100% sure that the memory i recall was totaly different its not like i guess its wrong and i jump on the bandwagon.
For example one of these effects is the new zapruder movie for me, ive researched this alot back in the days and ive seen the zapruder movie hundreds of times before, the movie that is reality in this "timeline" is not the movie i can remember, its a totaly new one this realy struck me since its like history changed.
but as i said, i understand your opinion on this and i think i wouldnt even coment here if i had not have my own "effects" happening, even your comparission to the "flat earth" is something i would have signed directly ;)
Last summer my husband and I were preparing a trip to a beautiful area in the countryside. We met a girl who was from a little village in that area. We had spoken several times about it, and my husband had seen the Google map featuring her village. One day, we saw her again. When we mentioned the name of her village, she reacted with surprise and said "Sorry? No, I never said I was from that place." She said her village was in that same area, but it was another one (names were totally different and it wasn't possible to mix them up). We were quite shocked. Later on, once at home, my husband checked the map again, and to our surprise, it had changed. To me, this is clearly a case of Mandela effect...
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Posted by Dennis Leahy
How about this.
There is a Ranch in Sedona AZ known as the Bradshaw Ranch. This area has some of the absolute craziest paranormal/UFO/Cryptid/Djinn acitivity in the world. And because of Tom Dongo and Linda Bradshaw it has the absolute best photographic testimonial of any of the known hotspots like it. If you watch this single video you will see how it has far more documented evidence than Skinwalker Ranch.
There are two pictures that were taken while a large drive in movie type screen appeared in the sky, and another world could be seen through this screen which seems to have been a portal, two pictures were taken and are shown in the presentation below.
The Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona is a nexus point where alternate earth dimensions seem to cross over one another.
The important thing to understand is this, the only thing that really seperates Sedona Arizona from anywhere else is the highly powerful magnetic field that is quite unlike any other natural phenomenon in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW70x8xd3T0&t=416s
If an anomalous magnetic field can account for dimensional overlay I would like to submit what is going on at CERN for consideration.
The LHC at CERN is the single most powerful superconducting magnetic aperture in the world. It is so powerful there are folks who claim to have seen spikes in the earth's magnetic field while CERN is activated according to Joseph Farrell.
Joseph Farrell makes a connection with Germany's Nazi Bell project in so far as Cern is concerned. The Nazi Bell being an anti-gravity device that was ran on two super powerful magnetic fields rotating in opposition to one another.
Now I'm saying that if the original Nazi bell had physics that could affect gravity, and gravity affects time, then it would seem that the Cern monstrosity could in fact alter time
Farrell states that the large hadron collider is a giant circle with rotating magnetic fields that have counter rotating magnetic fields, this is very much like Germany's Nazi Bell.
Oh and back to the Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, for folks who might like to go for a visit you can forget about it, it was bought by the US Government around the year 2000. Along with a underground military/science base in Sedona's aptly named Secret Canyon.
Do you understand that there are those in the Shadow Government who have been studying what ever is so special at Sedona for some time, and it seems now they have the ability to recreate what makes Sedona so special and now control it.
I'm of the opinion that CERN was built for far more than viewing subatomic particles and validating the Higgs-Boson particle. I'm of the opinion that CERN was built to bridge the dimensions of alternate earths and possibly cross time as well. The ramifications for altering the very world you hold so dear are endless if this is true in anyway what so ever.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=E4TS_uFH26c
yes, on the regular ones, forest gump, starwars etc..
I was like Dennis until I remembered differently myself, even then, it was easy enough to doubt it a little. Maybe I just always thought it was Sex in the City when it wasn't, maybe I always just incorrectly sang "and began to pray" in California Dreaming. But "I'll slip an extra shrimp on the barbie"...no way, it was never that, moreover, I don't even know anyone who remembers it as that, it was always "I'll throw another shrimp on the barbie".
Any Mandela examples I don't vividly remember, I don't count, only the one's I do remember vividly. The only doubt is whether I had it right in the first place. But some there was no getting wrong, that's sealed it for me, voted yes.
Gravity and time is affected by radiations from large suns... when two beams cross paths , a portal is opened from the future, hint ...imagine how many suns are in the milkyway , and many doors open and close ... things mllions of years old appear with technolgy far in advance of our current level ...hint. ... cosmic highways moving at light speed, opening and closing 24/7 ...
I do absolutely believe that there are some changes occurring. But at present, I am not convinced yet that it has anything to do with any mysterious cause, age shift, CERN tech, or otherwise. My view is certainly not original, but allow me to take a stab at this:
FIRST, SETTING THE TABLE:
- Various 3 letter agencies have been known to conduct various sociological experiments.
- The Internet has served as an excellent 'laboratory' for which to conduct such experiments, and subsequently collect data. In fact, wasn't the Internet originally some sort of combination between a military intel project (DARPA) and the work of Tim Berners Lee at CERN?
- All search engines gather data and perform intricate analytics on items such as most commonly searched topics, most misspelled words or misquoted phrases.
MY EXPERIENCE:
These are the memories for which I am absolutely certain (99% sure):
- Interview With "A" (not "The") Vampire
- Dolly from Moonraker definitely had braces
- It's a beautiful day in THE (not "this") neighborhood
- Life IS (not "was") like a box of chocolates
- Madonna's given birth name definitely did not contain 'Madonna' in it.
- Berenstein, not Berenstain Bears
These are the memories for which I am pretty darn certain, but will allow for the slight possibility that I am mistaken (I'll say 85% sure):
- Depend(s), not Depend (but I guess I never actually bought a box :o)
- We are the champions ... OF THE WORLD
- LUKE (not "no"), I am your father
- If you build it, THEY (not "he") will come
- Nobody does it like (not "doesn't like") Sara Lee
- Prince ~ "Dearly Beloved... gathered here today to celebrate (not "get through") this thing called life..."
- Reba McIntyre (not McEntire)
- Sally Field(s) ~ "You like me, you really like me!" (not "Right now, you like me")
- Suzanne Sommers (not "Somers")
- Payless Shoes (not Payless "ShoeSource")
- White-Out (not "Wite-Out")
THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING:
- What if this is a psyop or sociological experiment project that has been several decades long in the making? Implementation might involve a variety of techniques on how some of these changes might be carefully slipped into place.
- Since an entity like Google knows which words and phrases are most commonly misspelled or misquoted, wouldn't they be able to provide the feedback on which 'items' that might cause the most disagreement among the population?
- And since the Internet was not really prevalent in the 80s and early 90s, is it also possible that people in different geographical regions were deliberately marketed to differently? Just as an example, maybe the West was sold books spelled 'Berenstein' Bears while the East got 'Berenstain' Bears.
- In popular movies, is it possible that deliberate changes were made between theater versions and VHS and/or DVD versions?
- Is it possible that certain proven memory inception techniques were used on certain segments of the population? Do a search on 'Bugs Bunny at Disneyland study'
I won't to get into motives, nor who might be responsible (always the hardest questions). All I know is that some changes have definitely occurred. And there do appear to be folks on Youtube that have found loads of 'residual' evidence.
MY VERDICT
Until clearer evidence is provided, I am placing it in the psyop/sociological experiment category.
In any case, I do find all this stuff to be fascinating!
Cheers!
TFS
p.s. here's one to look out for in the future: 'Cup O'Noodles' was officially changed to 'Cup Noodles' but perhaps evidence of the official change will be removed at some later date.
Somebody would have to define what exactly they mean by "Mandela effect" for me to be able to answer the poll.
I think the idea of shifting "timelines" is reasonable enough, if you consider that the universe is neither strictly deterministic nor do we all have 100% free will. Between "fate" and "free will" I think there's a complex, fractal-like middle ground, and if there is any truth to the Mandela effect, I think that's where it would be. But the idea of "I just totally switched universes and the only surviving evidence of it is what Forest Gump said in the movie," is stretching things way too much for me. Some of that stuff approaches flat Earth level of "reasoning."
Well, see my post here re Moonraker. I saw the movie, downloaded from a torrent, for the very first time in October 2014.Quote:
Posted by TinFoilSuit
Dolly had braces. Absolutely. For sure. 100% slam-dunk certain. Long before anyone was talking about it, I enjoyed that clever and amusing little cinematic touch, and remembered it.
This was only two years ago. My memory is totally clear. I wasn't like I watched the movie in a theater back in 1979.
So I loaded that part again, yesterday, which was at the very end of the film. The exact same identical .mov video file had been sitting there on my external hard drive, untouched and unwatched by me or anyone else, for two years.
And yesterday, Dolly no longer had braces.
Possibly they have the Tech to twiddle your hard drive remotely?
No, not possibly. :)Quote:
Posted by Charles Harris
Well that is a whole new can of worms.
I saw the movie in a theater when it came out. She had braces back then but, after all these years it's good to see she finally got them off. Her teeth look good now...and you know what? She hasn't aged a bit in all these years.
I'd have to see the original in a VHS tape or a DVD, then look at a later released version of it on DVD or Blu-Ray, or via torrent, know what company did the transfer and see how many versions were kept with the originals to make that judgement to be more accurate. I don't have the facts at my disposal at the time, so I'll just listen and watch what other things about time displacement ya'll come up with. The way the mind works and is so manipulated I'm surprised that people put so much attachment to their perceptions of it. However, at this time, this point in time, I'll take the entertainment entrainment value of it and enjoy the conclusions.
That is positively astounding. I had a video cassette (VHS or Betamax - can't recall) copy of Moonraker and probably watched it 50 or more times as a youth. The image of a cute, metal mouthed Dolly is also indisputable for me. I wish I could somehow track down that tape. I wonder if an analog copy would also be effected.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanWell, see my post here re Moonraker. I saw the movie, downloaded from a torrent, for the very first time in October 2014.Quote:
Posted by TinFoilSuit
Dolly had braces. Absolutely. For sure. 100% slam-dunk certain. Long before anyone was talking about it, I enjoyed that clever and amusing little cinematic touch, and remembered it.
This was only two years ago. My memory is totally clear. I wasn't like I watched the movie in a theater back in 1979.
So I loaded that part again, yesterday, which was at the very end of the film. The exact same identical .mov video file had been sitting there on my external hard drive, untouched and unwatched by me or anyone else, for two years.
And yesterday, Dolly no longer had braces.
Btw, remember the secret ring tone that James Bond pilfered to get into the secured area? It was from 2001 Space Od:jaw:yssey
TFS
"A fractal like middle ground", nice. My current theory (humor me) is that this is a naturally arising phenomenon from the collective splitting into multiple timelines, which would be as new fractal branches or forks. If so, the shift from a previously far more united collective (regarding beliefs and nature of perception, worldview etc.) to the current far more diversely expressed state of the collective can be seen as an observable cause/effect (depending on from which end you're looking at it).Quote:
Posted by bsbray
If that were correct then we're likely forking off in different directions and as time goes on we'll get further and further away from each other and the historical changes will be bigger, so time will tell. From a Newtonian perspective, that seems so impossible but so does the behaviour of quantum physics, especially the observer effect. Scientifically speaking, it would make less sense if there were no observable changes reflecting this enormous ever increasing shift to differing perceptions of individuals within the collective.
@Innocent Warrior --- Brilliant :)