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Alt Media being Toasted to a Dark Crisp
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Below is a summary of what the "little guys" in the Alt-media community are experiencing, from Jim Stone's acquaintance and experience:
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March 8 2018
Defunding of alt media: A long frustrated talk with a good friend
Last night I made a call to a good friend to discuss how financing for the web site had been interfered with badly this month, and he had some very bad news on this topic. This particular friend does not do an alt media site, but he is connected very well with prominent alt media sites including this one, and was the guy who was titled "Russ Clarke" in the report "Tainted Nightmare". He has a very broad view of the real situation alt media is up against now.
To put it in few words, in short, we are toast.
He gave me a full explanation of what is going on. There are several very bad things going on, some I knew about, and others I had not figured out yet.
First of all, the left is scared to death because they are losing the war to alt media.
However, alt media needs to be very scared right now, because the left has all the power via platforms such as adsense, all the search engines, complete ownership of all finiancial institutions, you name it, if you need it to survive they own it.
They have cut off financing to ALL the little guys.
They hit Infowars hard by cutting off adsense, but that's not the same thing as making the bank "malfunction" across the board.
My site, as much as I have noticed the interference and complained, is doing better than most, they are afraid of this one because it is potent and have not actually hammered an absolute shut down (though they tried a year and a half ago and failed because the direct IP saved it) at any rate, this is not about my site, I need to talk about what is going on elsewhere . . . . . .
What is happening to people en masse (for the smaller bloggers) is if they depended on Wordpress, or Blogger, or Youtube, or any other second party server to work from, and also people who were on their own servers but did not actually have the traffic this site has (4.5 million uniques a year plus re-posts everywhere) for anyone who was sub 1 million they simply cut them off completely.
They are cutting them off completely. They are gone. Most people don't notice it, because the names that got cut off are too small, but they represented an enormous grass roots backbone for the truth movement, and that backbone is now gone.
As a second level in their war against alt media, (for the larger harder targets they could not take offline outright) they are attacking the financing. Many many alt media people who endured the adsense bans, and endured having Chrome be programmed to block all ads that were not adsense, and were able to keep things going with donations and sales, these people are now facing direct financial interference with the actual financial institutions that make things go.
It is not only this web site, many other web sites are seeing product sales fall off, and interference with donations. You can't donate to this site at all anymore, if it is a donation that is not tracked by a sale, it simply won't work. Maybe it will briefly after I just said this, (to prove it does) but the reality is that it just does not work.
People are fed bull**** errors and "try again laters" or silence, with the transaction terminated without them knowing, and (probably) outright theft.
I was alarmed, because this good friend who is well connected said that this month, it started happening everywhere, to "everyone".
VERY IMPORTANT: what they are doing against alt media is flatly illegal, it is prosecutable, they know it, and they don't care because they expect to steal the 2018 elections, impeach Trump, and then send the law straight into the sewer.
This is the scary part folks:
What they are doing at this point is the final softening of alt media, their final drive to weaken it so much via the cutting of finances and pre-elimination of as many voices as possible, so after they steal the election alt media will be too weak to speak out against it. They will then impeach Trump, and with him gone, they will simply shut alt media down completely.
Have you noticed lately that many news outlets like the Washington Times have occasionally published stuff good enough to be on this web site? They are doing this to make people value alt media less, and make people believe they actually might tell the truth, before they commit the final kill.
After the final kill of alt media, according to this friend, all hell breaks loose.
Once they accomplish an effective squelching of alt media, we are going to see terror like we have never seen it before, and the only narrative will be the MSM narrative. We are going to have the guns get grabbed, and people will be carted off. They are going to launch a major war also, every last thing alt media fought against will become our every day reality, and the only ones around to comment on it will be filth, like CNN.
Last month, a super powerful AI was launched to destroy us.
Here are the probable capabilities of the AI (a guess, based upon what I have seen happen) The AI will automatically look for new voices on the web that are not in line with the official line, and will remove those voices via the process of having everything on the internet go through an AI before it reaches the end reader.
When a dissenting voice is heard, "server errors" and spam filters take care of the situation. No new voices will be sent a suspension notice, or told anything was done against them at all. Their project will simply go nowhere. No one who is not someone already will ever become anyone.
If a voice is an established voice, the AI is assigned to mess with finances, to cause as many glitches and errors as can possibly be conceivably believed. This will by itself, with nothing at all provable to any party, kill finances by 85 percent or more.
No suspension notices sent, no warnings given, no notification whatsoever, "glitches" and "hiccups" will take care of it all, with absolutely no paper trail to prosecute. When a tech checks up on the problems, everything will be normal, and the one complaining will be stupid.
The AI will know when to back off. I noticed this with Fundrazr. That damn AI learned. At first, I could post and have no interference for about 10 hours. Then it cut to about 3 hours. Now the AI is so good at knowing things that it knows I changed routing in 10 minutes or less, and usually accomplishes a complete kill. People are simply not efficient or alert enough to do that.
Here is my message to others in alt media: Take steps now.
Cancel all projects that eat money. Lay off all but the most needed staff, NOW.
If you are paying more for servers than you need to, change that.
Have all writers learn how to hand code HTML so absolutely no outsourcing is needed. Cut features from your web site that require knowledge you don't have, and currently pay for.
Rather than die completely, get on a bandwidth plan you can afford, and cut your web site to straight text if you have to, to keep within the bandwidth you can afford.
No more flash intros and improperly compressed photos! Look at drudge. His site is crap and everyone hits it. DO THE SAME IF NEEDED, the message is worth a lot more than the glitz.
Get on direct IP access.
Get your servers offshore, in a safe haven.
If you use a platform such as Wordpress, Blogger, Youtube,or anything else, and you are real, expect to die in March. You are gone.
DO NOT buy that boat.
DO NOT buy that new 4x4.
DO NOT buy a whole bunch of new office furniture or anything else stupid right now, if your finances appear to be crushed this month it is not an illusion, it is the clarion call of war.
Welcome to the new normal. NO MORE DINNER AT DENNYS.
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The GULAG is here!! :facepalm:
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Foxie Loxie
The GULAG is here!! :facepalm:
Yep, and the off shore for alt media seems to be a must
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I've been seeing this talk a lot lately, which started with InfoWars being defunded on YT, and I honestly am missing what the hooplah is about. The ensuing reaction, frankly, seems rather dramatic and heavy-handed to me, but at the same time, I'm new to the whole alt-community, so I fully acknowledge I could simply be missing the larger picture here.
While YT is becoming an increasingly difficult platform for small creators (we have Google to thank for that), I'm having a hard time believing it's a targeted attack. Alex Jones, for one, still has his website, radio show, and online store, and while I don't agree with pulling adsense from his channel completely, I sort of get where YT is coming from. The ads are random for each channel, and I can see how some companies would rather not get associated, however loosely, with conspiratorial speakers like AJ for PR reasons.
Is that an unfortunate truth, and indicative of a larger problem in mainstream society and its refusal to accept that which isn't fed to them by the status quo? Absolutely.
But I think calling the whole thing a mobilized, personal attack against the alt community as a whole may be jumping the gun a bit.
Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was in the works.
Since I'm pretty much on the fence about this whole thing, could anyone kindly point to solid evidence, testimony, and other research so I can can formulate a better, more grounded opinion? I'm very much open to the possibility of this all being true, but with the mention of taking guns and carting people off, I can't help but feel a bit apprehensive. Seems kind of sensationalistic. I hope this doesn't offend; once again, I don't think this is below what the msm/ptb could do, but I feel like maybe this is a skewed perspective, what with putting the blame on the vague 'left', and making grandiose claims about an imminent authoritarian dystopia. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this.
I've been down the rabbit hole before, and loved it, so maybe this is a new hole I have yet to be pushed down.
If anyone wants to do the honors, I'd be quite grateful. Just understand that it will take more than he-said-she-said to sway me, personally.
I hope this isn't too harsh or abrasive. I've always had trouble with tact (I'm a very direct person irl), so let me know if this comes off as too snarky or uppity. I value and respect this forum and its members quite highly, and would hate to flow some bad blood.
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I've been seeing this talk a lot lately, which started with InfoWars being defunded on YT, and I honestly am missing what the hooplah is about. The ensuing reaction, frankly, seems rather dramatic and heavy-handed to me, but at the same time, I'm new to the whole alt-community, so I fully acknowledge I could simply be missing the larger picture here.
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You could start from here:
Youtube strikes, bans and censorship, with links to backup and alternative sites
YOUTUBE is cracking down as the Deep State empire is '3 striking' back: 23/1/18
Catherine Austin Fitts: all things Fitts
...in concert with:The Weaponization of Social Media : Corbett report 1 March 2018
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This is directly related to what we are being told via the Q posts. There is a war going on behind the scenes which is bloodthirsty, take no prisoners. Q tells us repeatedly that the patriots are taking the MSM down, and the MSM won't go down without a last ditch fight.
I suspect that the MSM narrative will change big time after the contents of Weiner's laptop are released. At some point they will be released as many of the sealed indictments come from the Weiner (Huma) laptop. The "Life Insurance" folder whose contents made some veteran NYPD officers cry. Q keeps trying to tell us that major cognitive dissonance will hit millions of people when that occurs. So before that happens the ground work has to be laid.
When I talk to diehard Democrats (my wife being one) they all still hold Hillary in high regard. They all are banking on their expectations that some really good dirt will come out of the Russiagate/Mueller investigation. Whereupon, marital discussion of these issues comes to a complete stop. I say to them - be prepared to have your most cherished expectations shattered. All indications point to this happening soon.
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Thanks! This is a great start. Time to jump, I suppose. We'll see if I'm changed when I'm done with those threads and their contents, as a starter. I love a good paradigm shift :)
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Whereupon, marital discussion of these issues comes to a complete stop. I say to them - be prepared to have your most cherished expectations shattered. All indications point to this happening soon.
If your wife is anything like my former wife, a California liberal, then their expectations will not be shattered. Rather, they will be confirmed. I expect that my former wife will see any such major indictments or arrests as proof that Trump is so dastardly as to abuse the powers of his office in order to attack those trying to expose his great crimes and even greater incompetence.
The divide between coastal liberals and fly-over libertarians is too great to be closed anytime soon, by any means whatsoever.
Thus is as intended, I suspect ... dividing us amongst ourselves, six ways from Sunday, that we might be too busy fighting each other to notice our common enemy ... and on Sunday (or whatever is the Holy Day) as well.
Dīvide et imperā, as the Romans would say.
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Elements in a position of power always seek to control the information that gets out to a collective.
What evidence is there that people with unfetter access to a centralized knowledge base are better at discerning information then the population at large?
Information withheld fosters distrust and distrust fosters strife which is growing!
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I see the sweep as a hard punch not some attack that will eventually lead to successfully silencing the enemy. I also see plenty of similarly outspoken to those weakened that are still untouched for reasons not apparent.
Doesn't matter, they can't put the genie back in the bottle!
It's not like the now millions of fervent alt media participants and viewers are suddenly going to go oh well and roll over.
It will just force new passion for creative ingenuity and new avenues of communication. If some give up, some new will arrive even more focused and ambitious.
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These "little guys" are almost a part of the problem at times (disturbingly often)....
maybe I'm just too suspicious, don't trust anyone that's allowed air time, don't trust anything that's allowed on TV... worked pretty well for me so far.
Corbet report doesn't care if addsense is gone.. How do you suck from the corporate teat and NOT become beholden to it's influence....
We are seeing that in this protest of what-should-not-matter now.
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Right on Paul! She is indeed a California woman. And a liberal to the end. I was a liberal once. Until I ran a small business for over 20 years. That will change one's reality. I keep telling her - when expectations run into reality, drop the expectations. Much less suffering.
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expectations ruin reality, drop the expectations. Much less suffering.
Fixed ;)
(at least from my experience....)
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:bump: :bump: :bump:
Bumping that. That's the best short video on the subject I've yet seen. Indigris, start right here. :) http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/check-this.gif
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0dL8vt1n-f8
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Elements in a position of power always seek to supress oposition, this happens here in Brazil, this is happening in Russia, in Europe, everywhere.
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The Natural News is launching an alternative video site.https://real.video/
I consider Natural News an alternative media.
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No surprises here. To the extent this video implies that the weaponization of social media occurred as an after thought, I disagree. (There was a not so subtle hint of that near the beginning of the video. I confess I did not watch it all.)
Weaponization was planned from the beginning. They knew exactly what they had, but were only mildly uncertain about the extent to which they could get this technology and its related mind control "benefits" into the hands of nearly everyone in "civilized" areas around the globe. They know the answer now and they have no concerns whatsoever. They got the vast majority hooked.
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there was a time... we used to go to 'those places'... the radical bookshops that had just as many small production pamphlets as they did books...
and you bought the alt-print media, the thin ten page 'newspaper'... the one that carried notices alongside the articles on the corruption and manipulation...
notices for meet-ups in the upstairs room of some dingy pub... places where we 'outraged' would organise action and dissent... you know what I mean,
before we ALL became screen-fused...
the alt-media if it is under financial attack, well it surely has the wits to go back to the old style.. the pamphlets... the opportunity we once had to meet and organise..
maybe this is a blessing... because from where I am viewing this, we lost our physical, audible, sweaty spittle-shouted voices ten feet from their faces.
Support the printers who will take on these researches and put them on PAPER... remember paper?
this medium has atrophied the impulse to meet locally.. and make a stink.
just an observation
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There's interesting commentary here but nothing necessarily earth shaking, and neither do I think or agree that Alternative (sic) media is being 'toasted', as the headline may suggest - it's kind of 'baity' (sic). In fact it, alternative media, has probably never been more alive.
I was in a musical band for a long time and I was always absolutely for 'having your own website!' and not relying on corporate behemoths to service that for you. And the boots-on-the-ground approach that snoman has shared.
Independence and some sense of self sufficiency and an understanding, empathy if you like: understanding your audience. That can take many forms, with the rich colour of engagement, or not as the case may be, in what you are doing or sharing.
To me it was so bloomin obvious that we'd end up here where we are now, and that there'd be this discourse, at all; this conversation at all.
It's a me thing, whatever that is, but it smacks of a staggering naivete to not have expected us to be here now, and whatever now means. All the independent channels could have had a contingency yonks ago, but, I guess just got lazy with the convenience of the behemoth supply chain.
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All the independent channels could have had a contingency yonks ago, but, I guess just got lazy with the convenience of the behemoth supply chain.
I think there's a degree of codependency. Many of the symptoms are there.
That's a serious remark... we could maybe all reflect on that.
Why can't the battered wife, or the abused husband, just walk out the door?
- They keep hoping things will change.
- They feel there's nowhere else to go. (Or if they do find somewhere, they fear friends may not be able to reach them.)
- They're financially dependent on the status quo.
- The familiarity of the painful situation is easier to bear than the uncertainty of not knowing what to do next.
... Can anyone see the similarity?
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This video regarding the class action lawsuit brought some things to light for me.
It seems the bullying practices such as strikes and removal of videos, which is the property of the producer is completely against the law. You can even put your YouTube channel in your will so that your heirs can receive profit when you're gone.
This class action lawsuit is still open if anybody wants to join in.
Contact Natasha: https://gab.ai/@NatashaV
She posted a video on BitChute regarding the lawsuit, and it was removed.
(( I thought people went there to get away from censorship!? ))
MM :sun:
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Michelle Marie
It seems the bullying practices such as strikes and removal of videos, which is the property of the producer is completely against the law.
I doubt that strikes and removals are "completely against the law" :).
I doubt that Natasha is a lawyer. I also know that I am not a lawyer, but here's my lay person understanding of this matter:- Most forums, video services, bulletin boards, etc which display digital content provided by independent producers, such as Youtube.com or ProjectAvalon.net, have (are granted by their content producers) the right, and sometimes the obligation, to decide what to display, and what not to display, and to decide what to copy, transmit, store and make backup copies of, for how long, and what not to copy, transmit, store or backup.
- Unless a site such as a "backup or storage" site, has agreed to some terms that it will preserve copies of the material, it is under no obligation to maintain (whether displayed or not) what is submitted to it.
- The independent producers submitting content (such as posters on Avalon) maintain ownership of what they submit, but by submitting material to some such website, they are granting the website a limited license to display, transmit, store and copy that content, on that website.
- I am not aware of any significant legal constraints on when or how websites, in general, may choose to monetize submitted material, such as collecting advertisement revenue for either its own profit or for selectively rewarding content producers.
There is apparently a natural (or at least deep state driven) tendency for a few such search engine, social media or content sharing sites to become heavily dominant. The same is seen in other media, as with newspapers, news agencies, and television channels.
This leads to excessive control and influence over the provided content.
Unfortunately, empowering our governments to stop or limit that excessive control or influence just makes the problem worse ... providing yet one more mechanism by which the deep state can control the medium and the message.
So, whereas I can imagine that "transmitting IP packets over the Internet" could be reclassified as a public utitlity, like "transmitting electrons over conductive wires (providing electric power)" is currently classified, I don't see easy answers to Internet censorship by such websites as Google, Facebook and Youtube.
Three things relevant to this topic that I would push for, if I had the opportunity, but which are and likely will forever be an uphill fight, are:- Break up conglomerated interests ... such as separating Google search and Youtube video.
- "Splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds," as former US President John F Kennedy is quoted as saying. I say this here because I presume that Google is and has been since its inception "in bed with" the CIA.
- Explicitly extend to privately held digital data (whether stored on local physical media or in the cloud or in transit) the right, as enshrined in the Fourth Ammendment of the US Constitution, of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.
I would be leary of almost any law that had any chance of being passed by any major government legislature these days. The "big boys" have far too much influence in such matters, in writing such laws, in writing and administering any resultant regulations, and in lying to the public as to what those laws and regulations are actually doing, and the "big boys" do not have our best interests at heart.
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I think Natasha was addressing Free Speech and property rights together as she discussed the Federal lawsuit that she is spearheading.
They seem to be in agreement in this video that no further laws need to be passed; just the upholding of the laws we already have applied to people using the Internet.
Your solutions are of sound judgment and it does seem we are heading in that direction, albeit uphill!
MM :happy dog:
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Michelle Marie
It seems the bullying practices such as strikes and removal of videos, which is the property of the producer is completely against the law.
I doubt that strikes and removals are "completely against the law" :).
I doubt that Natasha is a lawyer. I also know that I am not a lawyer, but here's my lay person understanding of this matter:
- Most forums, video services, bulletin boards, etc which display digital content provided by independent producers, such as Youtube.com or ProjectAvalon.net, have (are granted by their content producers) the right, and sometimes the obligation, to decide what to display, and what not to display, and to decide what to copy, transmit, store and make backup copies of, for how long, and what not to copy, transmit, store or backup.
- Unless a site such as a "backup or storage" site, has agreed to some terms that it will preserve copies of the material, it is under no obligation to maintain (whether displayed or not) what is submitted to it.
- The independent producers submitting content (such as posters on Avalon) maintain ownership of what they submit, but by submitting material to some such website, they are granting the website a limited license to display, transmit, store and copy that content, on that website.
- I am not aware of any significant legal constraints on when or how websites, in general, may choose to monetize submitted material, such as collecting advertisement revenue for either its own profit or for selectively rewarding content producers.
There is apparently a natural (or at least deep state driven) tendency for a few such search engine, social media or content sharing sites to become heavily dominant. The same is seen in other media, as with newspapers, news agencies, and television channels.
This leads to excessive control and influence over the provided content.
Unfortunately, empowering our governments to stop or limit that excessive control or influence just makes the problem worse ... providing yet one more mechanism by which the deep state can control the medium and the message.
So, whereas I can imagine that "transmitting IP packets over the Internet" could be reclassified as a public utitlity, like "transmitting electrons over conductive wires (providing electric power)" is currently classified, I don't see easy answers to Internet censorship by such websites as Google, Facebook and Youtube.
Three things relevant to this topic that I would push for, if I had the opportunity, but which are and likely will forever be an uphill fight, are:
- Break up conglomerated interests ... such as separating Google search and Youtube video.
- "Splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds," as former US President John F Kennedy is quoted as saying. I say this here because I presume that Google is and has been since its inception "in bed with" the CIA.
- Explicitly extend to privately held digital data (whether stored on local physical media or in the cloud or in transit) the right, as enshrined in the Fourth Ammendment of the US Constitution, of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.
I would be leary of almost any law that had any chance of being passed by any major government legislature these days. The "big boys" have far too much influence in such matters, in writing such laws, in writing and administering any resultant regulations, and in lying to the public as to what those laws and regulations are actually doing, and the "big boys" do not have our best interests at heart.
Btw, this post inspired 2 of the 3 intentions we are going to use for this week's visioning. Thanks!
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1213258
Yes, we will put energy into these solutions!
MM :sun:
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Following the OP article from Jim Stone:
HERE IS HOW THEY SCREWED DONATIONS THIS MONTH:
March 10 2018
I knew something was wrong with Fundrazr, so I pulled it.
Low and behold, I went into this mail box, and Paypal called it unconfirmed.
Once confirmed, Paypal will not release these anyway.
Worse?
The box was confirmed already, this is just AI F***ery, you know, the "glitches" to screw people I talked about in a recent report.
It is still on this page, scroll down to the headline "Defunding of alt media: A long frustrated talk with a good friend".
What is worse?
Paypal cleverly omitted transaction numbers, and in the past when this has happened, when people request their money back it puts my paypal negative, after never receiving it!
IF THESE ARE YOUR DONATIONS CONFIRM YOUR MONEY IS NOT GONE AND TRY AGAIN.
IF IT IS GONE AND YOU CANCEL, PAYPAL WILL PROBABLY ROB ME BY CHARGING BACK WHAT I NEVER GOT AND I CANNOT HANDLE THAT NOW.
I AM GOING TO QUIT PAYPAL PROBABLY SOME TIME THIS WEEK.
I knew something was wrong, I really was getting screwed!
Many thanks to those who tried!
MIKE: That might have been a life changing E-mail
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I doubt that Natasha is a lawyer. I also know that I am not a lawyer, but here's my lay person understanding of this matter:
And (most certainly :) ), neither am I.
But Paul's quite right: the Avalon forum has the right to delete or edit any content according to our guidelines (and we could almost certainly do that even with no guidelines at all), and to 'close channels' (i.e. terminate user accounts) for any reason or no reason, at any time, even without warning or any 'strikes' at all.
It's a private party, as it were. We can pretty much do what we decide to be best, in our own house, with respect to all our many valued invited guests. (And all members have been specifically and individually invited to the party, following their application.)
There may be three differences with YouTube:
- They're a huge behemoth relative to us, and may be subject to some form of monopoly regulation.
- Anyone at all can wander off the street into their party. There's no application or invitation process.
- They also have a contractual commercial/financial relationship with most or all of the channels that are apparently being targeted, and that may change things also (in terms of business practices, fair trade, etc etc).
Whether this all permits any legal action to be taken when something unfair seems to have happened, or when some published guideline seems not to have been followed, I have no idea.
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Bill Ryan
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Paul
I doubt that Natasha is a lawyer. I also know that I am not a lawyer, but here's my lay person understanding of this matter:
And (most certainly :) ), neither am I.
But Paul's quite right: the Avalon forum has the right to delete or edit any content according to our guidelines (and we could almost certainly do that even with no guidelines at all), and to 'close channels' (i.e. terminate user accounts) for any reason or no reason, at any time, even without warning or any 'strikes' at all.
It's a private party, as it were. We can pretty much do what we decide to be best, in our own house, with respect to all our many valued invited guests. (And all members have been specifically and individually invited to the party, following their application.)
There may be three differences with YouTube:
- They're a huge behemoth relative to us, and may be subject to some form of monopoly regulation.
- Anyone at all can wander off the street into their party. There's no application or invitation process.
- They also have a contractual commercial/financial relationship with most or all of the channels that are apparently being targeted, and that may change things also (in terms of business practices, fair trade, etc etc).
Whether this all permits any legal action to be taken when something unfair seems to have happened, or when some published guideline seems not to have been followed, I have no idea.
Well, I am certainly NOT a lawyer! However, I have witnessed the banter that goes on in court cases.
Natasha does not claim to be a lawyer, but she claims that she has filed a Federal lawsuit with Anti School and others whose names she is keeping confidential.
Only time will tell what comes of the lawsuit.
MM
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On the next episode...
Form Jim Stone: March 13 2018
Just like I said, it is now happening:
I did not expect them to target Natural News so quickly, (I thought sites of that size were going to be banned much later) but it has happened:- the entire Health Ranger site has now been blown off Youtube.
Mike Adams-In the most egregious demonstration yet of outright tyranny and oppression of free speech, YouTube terminated the entire Health Ranger channel("TheHealthRanger") without explanation over a week ago.
Since then, the internet has expressed increasing outrage toward YouTube for blatant censorship of a channel with over 350,000 subscribers, 1700+ videos and over a decade of video content covering natural medicine, home gardening, laboratory science and liberty podcasts.
The blatant censorship purge being carried out by tech gatekeepers like Google, YouTube and Facebook can only be called "techno-fascism," and it's rooted in radical left-wing ideology that has disturbingly morphed into an intolerance cult of totalitarian nut jobs.
These people believe that censoring all political opponents is a "victory" for their twisted ideology, and they have now weaponized their power to censor into a campaign of oppression that's so dangerous, even the creator of the World Wide Web is now calling for the tech giants to be urgently regulated to protect free speech.
But wait, there's more!
Georgetown / CIA Sue Infowars, Openly Call For Conservative News To Be Banned SEE THIS
And all I can say now is I blew the whistle first, see the following.
I am not happy at all about being right this time!
REPOST: THIS IS HAPPENING FASTER THAN I EXPECTED:
Defunding of alt media: A long frustrated talk with a good friend
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Georgetown.....Jesuits? :confused:
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Tommy Robinson is a controversial figure in Great Britain. He first came across as a racist (which he was) but slowly has evolved into an interesting journalist who is a lot more fact based than before. He has started reaching people outside his normal circles and exposing the government for what it really is. In this quick video he explains the social media attacks he is suffering. At 1:48 mins he explains exactly what is happening.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemoller
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Follow up on Jim Stone's Paypal saga:THE END OF COMPLAINING ABOUT PAYPAL
March 24 2018
It is "replace Paypal time! Paypal actually stole (at least) $520 outright this month (including a portion of the Flashcoin purchases) and this does not mean charge backs, they actually STOLE that much, outright, with no mention of why or where it went.
It either came in and was not added to the total, (two cases of this) or was stolen en route, (five cases of this) or was subtracted from the VISA with nothing ending up in Paypal (two cases of this) and they also stole one outgoing transfer.
They are compromised totally. This is the month someone at Paypal flipped the switch on alt media. Rense noticed also. SO, ADIOS Paypal! You cannot be called a legit service anymore. They have messed around before, but it was survivable.
Not anymore.
I am currently setting up with a legit service. All I need is the CVV off the Visa and it is done.
Rense got hit with Paypal tampering the same time I did!
Without announcing anything, Paypal cut him off.
As I suspected, it was against all of alt media. On the same day I got hit, Rense did too. This was a centralized attack on alt media. Rense and I are anything but pals because Rense thinks I shill for Tepco. But we do fight the same common enemy, as was proven when paypal whacked both of us on the same day!
HEY RENSE, I KNOW YOU HATE ME, BUT AT LEAST SOME (AND POSSIBLY ALL) YOUR PAYMENTS ARE GETTING PAID INTO PAYPAL, AND PAYPAL IS STEALING THEM. I HAVE PROOF!
http://www.anotherjsserver.com/0cmode/ppsteal.PNG
I CONFIRMED PAYPAL STEALING MYSELF:
To clear a "deficit" they created by stealing, I tried adding money with the Visa card.
Paypal took $80 off the Visa.
The bank here recorded them taking it. And Paypal never credited it to the Paypal account, they just put up a screen saying they would not permit me to put money in Paypal with the Visa, took the money in secret, and sent it out the back door.
Three days later it is still not showing in Paypal as them getting anything. They also did this with payments people tried to send earlier in the month, accidentally captured by Gmail.
They can't sue me for tattling because this is documented. They are stealing outright. We have the bank record showing Paypal taking the money, and never acknowledging it in Paypal.HEY PAYPAL, YOU ARE BUSTED. WE HAVE THE BANK RECORD PROVING YOU TOOK THE MONEY IN THIS DATE RANGE. HOW ABOUT THAT RENSE? THEY ARE SCREWING YOU ROYALLY RENSE, MAYBE THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE HAD REDUCED FINANCES FOR A WHILE. THEY WERE PROBABLY SKIMMING YOU OF ALL OR A PORTION OF ANYTHING YOU COULD NOT CONFIRM (DONATIONS VIA E-MAIL AND FUNDRAISING SITES).The above will be appended with the bank record proving they took the money (I do not have that with me right now for this rant)
Paypal is a corrupted scam now, it is no wonder why Ebay is going to ditch them before 2020.I always thought they were integrated, but they did maintain separate identities and corporations frequently cast off subsidiaries that go to hell.
If Ebay wants to survive, they are going to have to ditch Paypal like a gangrenous leg before the infection destroys the whole body.
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Other sectors of the Web are also experiencing the toasting heat.
EMERGENCY WARNING FROM THE SAKER
March 24, 2018
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Dear friends,
I have learned that several anti-Empire websites have been hit by strong and sustained DDoS attacks including Craig Murray (https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...-on-this-blog/) and, apparently, the Russian journal New Eastern Outlook which was knocked off line by a big hacking attack and is still down Saturday. They have been attacked multiple times the past 2 months and then a final attack succeeded in shutting them down. They are trying to get it back up.
We might be next.
Should that happen, I ask you to write down the URL to the old, blogspot, domain name I used originally:
Second, please write down these email addresses to contact me if needed: (please use them in the following order)vineyardsaker@gmail.com
vineyardsaker@mail.ru
vineyardsaker@yandex.com
(if and when needed, I will provide other contact information)
[...]
Full article: http://thesaker.is/emergency-warning-from-the-saker/
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Does this mean any paypal transactions to whomever are in dire straits, potentially being ripped off? Cite even more examples locally in UK anyone?
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Does this mean any paypal transactions to whomever are in dire straits, potentially being ripped off?
A few months ago, I had my Bank setup a new separate checking account, that I keep very little in. I then switched my Paypal account to taking money from that new, small, account, so that they no longer had access to my main checking account with its billions (billions of nano-cents <grin>.) Paypal is still useful to me occasionally, but certainly not trusted anymore.
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On the next episode...
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Jim Stone:
March 13 2018
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The blatant censorship purge being carried out by tech gatekeepers like Google, YouTube and Facebook can only be called "techno-fascism," and it's rooted in radical left-wing ideology that has disturbingly morphed into an intolerance cult of totalitarian nut jobs.
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Follow up on Jim Stone's Paypal saga:
THE END OF COMPLAINING ABOUT PAYPAL
March 24 2018
It is "replace Paypal time! Paypal actually stole (at least) $520 outright this month (including a portion of the Flashcoin purchases) and this does not mean charge backs, they actually STOLE that much, outright, with no mention of why or where it went.
They're driving us to blockchain (well, distributed ledger, actually) based social media and payment solutions.
This is deliberate!
I predict a Brave New World for distributed ledger based solutions ... not for blockchain based Bitcoin, as that's too slow, but for radically more efficient solutions, running on a world-wide (and off-world) distributed "web" of millions of digital devices, massively parallel, requiring very little from most end-point nodes (your refrigerator, smart phone, and light bulbs will all be quite capable of participating), and capable of handling millions of transactions per second.
A couple of early candidates for providing this fancy new distributed ledger technology are EOS and Hadera Hashgraph.
Both social media, as in this list of 10 Decentralized Social Media Networks to Use Instead of Facebook, and "digital cash" solutions, will move to these distributed ledgers, along with all manner of other legal, contractual, financial, monetary, inventory management, surveillance, propaganda, mass manipulation, information and dis-information sharing, media, education, training, etc, etc, ... services.
The legendary "freedom" of such distributed ledger (think blockchain on steroids) solutions from hacking and central manipulation does not mean what it seems. It means they will be safe from abuse by those not working for the elite. Just as the elite have backdoors to all widely used computer and networking hardware and software systems, so will they have backdoors into these distributed ledger systems.
This is why suddenly Paypal, Facebook and Youtube are coming under such attack ... it is to make happen exactly what is happening ... seeding the migration of active content producers and some portion of the viewing audience to the distributed ledger solutions of this Brave New World.
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They're driving us to blockchain (well, distributed ledger, actually) based social media and payment solutions.
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The legendary "freedom" of such distributed ledger (think blockchain on steroids) solutions from hacking and central manipulation does not mean what it seems. It means they will be safe from abuse by those not working for the elite. Just as the elite have backdoors to all widely used computer and networking hardware and software systems, so will they have backdoors into these distributed ledger systems.
Meanwhile, of course, it shall be enshrined into law that the minions and institutions of the elite bastards have full, unfettered, covert access to the data collected.
For example, two days ago, on Thursday of this week, the US House of Representatives approved an omnibus government spending bill, with a provision called the "CLOUD Act" tucked away in its 2,232, never entirely read by any single person, pages.
According to this Activist Post article, Responsibility Deflected, The CLOUD Act Passes, the "Clarifying Overseas Use of Data" (CLOUD) Act is a far-reaching, privacy-upending piece of legislation that will:- Enable foreign police to collect and wiretap people’s communications from U.S. companies, without obtaining a U.S. warrant.
- Allow foreign nations to demand personal data stored in the United States, without prior review by a judge.
- Allow the U.S. president to enter “executive agreements” that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws.
- Allow foreign police to collect someone’s data without notifying them about it.
- Empower U.S. police to grab any data, regardless if it’s a U.S. person’s or not, no matter where it is stored.
The elite and their loyal minions will know all, see all, and share all.
But at least your digital life will be safe from the preying eyes and thieving fingers of common crooks and rogue Internet websites.
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Jim Stone's adventures in being toasted:
I hate to take up page space with a topic like this, but I have to say what happened this month.
This month was absolute hell with attacks.
I had 4 cell phones destroyed (and they were not burner phones), three laptops rendered unusable for the web site, two cell modems were also wrecked.
Additionally, someone broke the lock on the driver's side and stole two important cameras.
And, then, Paypal stiffed me $520.
I have therefore been working at cyber cafe's to prevent more computers from getting fragged. I have 3 left so I don't need help with that, and the A8 that got bugged can be swapped for Claudia's and she can take the bugged one to work where it won't matter. It was a bug put into the UEFI bios thanks to whatever back doors there were available.
That's why I went ballistic on the NSA software that got released into the wild. I have confirmed the car is not bugged via a scanner that re-wrote all the code.
ANYWAY, I was not in a panic at all until Claudia informed me of something - a big bill is coming due a week early because of a weird sequence of Mexican holidays that will prevent payment on time if it is not paid early.
-SO-
I need a total of about $400 sent via Western Union or Moneygram, (info at link) because Paypal is camel dung now.
If Paypal had not stiffed me the $520 all would be fine. Who knows what will happen with that, but they are history anyway. ADIOS. Peter sent $50 via Moneygram, thanks!
I am currently setting up with a legit alternative to Paypal. Until this is complete, it has to be wire transfer, thanks!
To those of you who are not familiar with this, the site is running on the primary back up server right now (that is why the address looks like it does) [ http://www.anotherjsserver.com/1cmode/0zz7.html ]
This site has many back up servers. This is the one I usually use.
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I do have to say, that's all a little hard to believe. (I'm not saying it never happened. I'm literally saying I have trouble believing it.)
If this all occurred as stated, there seem to be two possibilities:
- Jim Stone is incompetent in a number of ways of which he's not fully aware, and that combines with his own paranoia — and maybe also narcissism: there's quite a lot of 'look at me!' in his many posts about this.
- He's seriously personally enraged someone in high places who has now been making a sequence of quiet phone calls to exact their revenge.
But the second of those CAN happen, I'm pretty sure. When it does, it explains why some individuals are ruined or murdered, while others (apparently doing much the same thing) may not be targeted at all. It may just depend on who one's unlucky enough to have offended.
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If this all occurred as stated, there seem to be two possibilities:
- Jim Stone is incompetent in a number of ways of which he's not fully aware, and that combines with his own paranoia — and maybe also narcissism: there's quite a lot of 'look at me!' in his many posts about this.
- He's seriously personally enraged someone in high places who has now been making a sequence of quiet phone calls to exact their revenge.
I see a third possibility:- As I speculated yesterday in this post:"They're driving us to blockchain (well, distributed ledger, actually) based social media and payment solutions."
"They" (minions of the elite bastards) are getting Jim Stone to squeal like a stuck pig (that's not a difficult task), as a small part of an extended campaign to drive humanity into "safer" distributed ledger based solutions.
Quoting a bit more from the above link, "digital cash solutions, will move to these distributed ledgers". That means that Paypal will soon enough be upstaged by some cryptocoins. Only the über-elite can hack cryptocoins, which is just the way they want it.
If they wanted to shut Jim Stone up, they'd either leave him alone, or leave him for dead. They are doing a monumentally incompetent job of either of those possibilities.
