Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
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Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
I'm certainly hoping for the pardon of Assange and Snowden. At least Snowden has a home. Assange is the one who has been living in terrible and dangerous conditions and after all he did to expose Clinton, he should definitely be pardoned. I hope Trump does what is right.
Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
Assange might get one, his 2016 action deserves one from Trump. I seriously doubt Snowden will get one from Trump considering Trump is currently at war with the agency that planted Snowden inside the NSA to blow it up.
Biden would probably do it in a heartbeat though.
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norman
Biden would probably do it in a heartbeat though.
You assuming Biden is "not" under any other puppeteer pulling the strings ... ;)
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Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
On a personal level, Trump should be grateful to Assange. He played a large part in him winning the 2016 election. I fear Assange may be a broken man now but I'm sure Assange would be very grateful to Trump and could thus become a useful person for Trump.
I feel Trump has some karma to repay.
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norman
Biden would probably do it in a heartbeat though.
you assuming Biden is not under any other puppeteer pulling the strings ... ;)
How dU work that out, not at all.
I'm only saying, Snowden might be a patsy who did what he did because our enemies wanted him to do it. He was a CIA guy before he ever got inside the NSA. The CIA was trying to take over the role of the NSA because the NSA was too close to the US military who were too difficult to completely take control of, for their future plans. Clapper was probably in cahoots with the CIA gang as well and facilitated it.
Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
Well now, he did go from this while trying to get elected:
To this shortly after getting elected, as Pompeo includes Snowden as well:
Not only did Trump use Assange as a chess piece to gain popularity during his campaign, but then threw him to the wolves soon as he didn't need him any more. That really tells me something, and I've continued to be quite shocked as to how this travesty has been mostly ignored, or explained away.
I don't think he'll do the pardon, as he could have already done so at any time with the stroke of a pen. Hell, he didn't even need to unleash the dogs of war on Assange in the first place, so wtf is that?
If he does do it I'll be happy, but I'll also know that he did it for no other reason than to use Assange as a chess piece once more on his way out. Other than that he's already proven he doesn't give a crap about Assange, or Snowden.
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Before Trump got elected he was not privy to intel'.
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norman
Assange might get one, his 2016 action deserves one from Trump. I seriously doubt Snowden will get one from Trump considering Trump is currently at war with the agency that planted Snowden inside the NSA to blow it up.
Biden would probably do it in a heartbeat though.
You are saying like its a bad thing to give a pardon to whistleblowers. Whistleblowers are heroes, there should be songs about them like in the old days when bards sang praise to people.
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No, but we are in a war and it would be a bad thing to lose it, seriously.
Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
Again this soap opera..
Assange is a true hero, but since he knows too much, he was put away and probably will be kept for as long as the game goes..
Trump seems to be a very good guy for many people, but he also got secrets, who doesn't? I bet he will NOT do anything about it, Assange is on his own since the time he walked inside that embassy, he knew that, he was warned that time, it would be much better take his chances on the run in some small country somewhere far way, he knew the price and he accepted that, he even talked about that years ago. I remember he saying something about face the consequences, not running from what he was doing, he got a very strong warrior mindset without any doubt.
Nobody can't change someone determined to take action. period.
Unless some mercenaries break into the facility Assange is been held and rescue him, I see no future for him.
It is the ultimate sacrifice for what he believes to be the right thing to do, and hold your horses it is not the end, not yet!
Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
I have always had the nagging feeling that there's more to the Assange and Snowden affairs than meets the eye. And I have a nagging suspicion that the pressure on Trump is a controlled operation to give him a way out. I do believe that Assange will be pardoned.
Time will tell.
Peace.
Re: Pressure put on President Trump to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden
This is the cult Julian Assange grew up in before his mother took him out of it. The leader had ties to the CIA and MK-Ultra. The back-left kid in the picture looks like Assange.
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"Australian Anne Hamilton-Byrne believed herself to be a reincarnation of Jesus Christ. In 1964, she developed a hybrid Christian-Hindu “religion,” and convinced multiple parents to sign over custody of their children. Hamilton-Byrne’s goal was to create a “master race,” as she believed the future held an impending race war.
"The children were beaten viciously during their lives at the commune. Most disturbingly, they were injected with LSD and locked in dark rooms. Hamilton-Byrne funded the cult through LSD sales. When a child was expelled from the cult, she went to the police, and Hamilton-Byrne was arrested in 1987 and fined. As of 2017, she lives in a mental ward in a nursing home in Melbourne."
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Gracy May
Well now, he did go from this while trying to get elected:
To this shortly after getting elected, as Pompeo includes Snowden as well:
Not only did Trump use Assange as a chess piece to gain popularity during his campaign, but then threw him to the wolves soon as he didn't need him any more. That really tells me something, and I've continued to be quite shocked as to how this travesty has been mostly ignored, or explained away.
I don't think he'll do the pardon, as he could have already done so at any time with the stroke of a pen. Hell, he didn't even need to unleash the dogs of war on Assange in the first place, so wtf is that?
If he does do it I'll be happy, but I'll also know that he did it for no other reason than to use Assange as a chess piece once more on his way out. Other than that he's already proven he doesn't give a crap about Assange,
or Snowden.
I totally agree with you that Trump has to thank Assange a great deal for his win. I believe that the major thing holding Trump back from pardoning Assange is that this would upset powerful people in the military, and the military probably has the key to Trump's second term.
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I totally agree with you that Trump has to thank Assange a great deal for his win. I believe that the major thing holding Trump back from pardoning Assange is that this would upset powerful people in the military, and the military probably has the key to Trump's second term.
Isn't that what Trump was there to do, upset powerful people? He never upset any powerful people except in the manner he conducts himself. They much prefer the razon thin phony veneer of politeness.
The military has nothing to do with him siccing the dogs of war on Assange or not, and likewise the military will have nothing to do with changing the election results.
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Doesnt Julian Assange need to be tried first and found guilty before there is something to pardon?
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The reason Trump doesn't need to pardon Assange is he has committed no crime to be pardoned from.
If he and Pompeo had any integrity and a love for the country and the First Amendment, Assange would be exonerated with all haste and the paperwork bureaucracies demand. Then he could take those papers and walk, or be carried most likely, to freedom and a warm hospital.
Assange is the canary dying in the coal mine of freedom of the press and speech for all the world to see and learn from.
However, there's still time for Trump and Pompeo to wake up and find their honor, I hope and pray they do.
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Gracy May
Well now, he did go from this while trying to get elected:
To this shortly after getting elected, as Pompeo includes Snowden as well:
Not only did Trump use Assange as a chess piece to gain popularity during his campaign, but then threw him to the wolves soon as he didn't need him any more. That really tells me something, and I've continued to be quite shocked as to how this travesty has been mostly ignored, or explained away.
I don't think he'll do the pardon, as he could have already done so at any time with the stroke of a pen. Hell, he didn't even need to unleash the dogs of war on Assange in the first place, so wtf is that?
If he does do it I'll be happy, but I'll also know that he did it for no other reason than to use Assange as a chess piece once more on his way out. Other than that he's already proven he doesn't give a crap about Assange,
or Snowden.
I totally agree with you that Trump has to thank Assange a great deal for his win. I believe that the major thing holding Trump back from pardoning Assange is that this would upset powerful people in the military, and the military probably has the key to Trump's second term.
Maybe an Assange pardon would be amongst the last signed. I seem to recall Bill Clinton magicked away many of the sins of his closest allies about an hour before the end of his Presidency? Waiting until there was no political price to pay...
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With time running out, pressure grows on Trump to pardon Assange amid reports aides persuaded him not to
20 Jan, 2021 00:43
https://www.rt.com/usa/513025-trump-...ardon-assange/
The rising tide of calls for US President Donald Trump to pardon WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange could be for naught, amid mainstream media reports his aides persuaded him not to do so in a last-ditch bid to appease critics.
With Joe Biden scheduled to be sworn in as president at noon on Wednesday, Trump was reportedly preparing one last batch of pardons before he leaves office. Mainstream media outlets cited anonymous sources inside the White House to claim Assange’s name wasn’t on the list.
Aides persuaded Trump that he shouldn’t upset Senate Republicans, who will soon vote on his second impeachment, according to CNN.
Taking these reports at face value, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden said Trump had allowed himself to be “bullied” out of pardoning Assange.
“Once he's out of power, they're going to vote to impeach him anyway,” he said on Twitter, adding, “well – that's one way to be remembered.
