Not sure where to post this Or been posted I thought it needs to stand on its own. Was this yet another lie fed to the people.
Was the moon landing really faked...begs the question
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hWvyo...Az7M5QGkW3ripY
Viking
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Not sure where to post this Or been posted I thought it needs to stand on its own. Was this yet another lie fed to the people.
Was the moon landing really faked...begs the question
https://www.bitchute.com/video/hWvyo...Az7M5QGkW3ripY
Viking
Don't buy it !
Other than a Wikileaks logo on top left what proves it's from Wikileaks?
Looks like some real footage spliced with behind scenes set footage from something like Capricorn 1 film or such like.
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Posted by viking
I thought it was faked even before seeing this but it looks pretty damning nonetheless.
There's a lot of things over the years which haven't added up, camera angles, lighting, size of earth etc but I went with the explanations because I couldn't see how the Soviets would've let it pass. Once I realised that the Soviets were effectively being run by the same people and they had their own secrets to maintain I came to accept this had been faked.
entertaining watch,
even if Apollo made it to the moon back then, they would have produced a bunch of backup footage to show if it went wrong.
this may be that kind of footage.
I just don't believe the moon landing was faked. It is like trying to say the Earth is flat to me.Quote:
Posted by viking
Perhaps we can transfer this thread on the wikileaks thread so to alert it’s not real.... Mods.
Viking
The two black helicopters at 3:12 are from Capricorn 1.
Thanks Indigo...the fact checkers here on Avalon are as usual spot on.Quote:
Posted by indigopete
Viking
https://www.gifsanimes.com/data/medi...nimee-0027.gif
I've been seeing discussions for a while about the hypothetical historical manipulation of the "first steps on the moon." And as luck would have it, it is mostly men who defend this theory. Be careful, I am not saying that I do not agree or that I am defending the veracity of this event.Quote:
Posted by Karen (Geophyz)
https://www.gifsanimes.com/data/medi...nimee-0071.gif
On a forum that no longer exists, there was a "Moon Sham" discussion, do you imagine the title? The Moon in its symbol is the representation of the feminine, like the Sun the representation of the masculine (horoscopes, it is the domination of the Sun in the press, the radio that we consider or that we have made believe to be of astrology.
The world has been dominated by Patriarchy / Sun for centuries and matriarchy / Moon gave the feminist its name, by a deviation from the Moon symbol.
https://www.gifsanimes.com/data/medi...nimee-0045.gif
I think these stories of those lunar orbit journeys are an abominable political plot? What is visible at the top is like what is visible at the bottom?
What would it be like to know that these theories are just lies? Does it fit into the evil plan to dominate men over women?
https://www.gifsanimes.com/data/medi...nimee-0056.gif
What are the real intentions behind this conspiracy to tell the truth? , are the lies on both sides between right and wrong. This belief system is just a plot to nurture an energetic egregore that does not exist.
This world is an illusion, like the symbol of the Moon in the Tarot de Marseille, but not only when you are in knowledge, the Moon becomes the reflection of your soul ...
https://www.gifsanimes.com/data/medi...nimee-0026.gif
I remain firmly convinced that 3 things happened.
1. Fake landings were filmed
2. Actual landings occurred
3. We had "assistance"
1. Simply because of the vital propaganda needed to be "first" and insurance that the broadcasts went perfectly. This makes total sense.
2. Whether we landed before or after the broadcasts is irrelevant, but it has been repeated often enough that we were not welcome, to leave and to never return.
3. Apparently we cannot now cross the radiation belts safely and had either no idea how to do so then OR we were aided by "alien" or other advanced tech which is no longer available.
What becomes blurry to me is that we have purportedly not returned OR we have bases on the moon and throughout the solar system AND probably throughout the cosmos. That is difficult to completely be satisfied even with the leak of the "solar warden" data or various accounts of "whistle blowers"...what we can be certain is that we will not know until we absolutely need to know.
If the "true" video of actual landing did show us surrounded by alien craft would that have spun the world into fits of hystrics?....I'm not sure. I am pretty suyre we would gt over it soon enough.
What is so often unacknowledged by the "enlightened" Western cultural mind is that although WE ( or at least many) may be perfectly fine with the admission of alien intelligence not every other culture or society is or will be. Noting that S. Americans seem to be totally unphased by UFO's, other cultures freak out and go mental if a deformed cow or goat is born with 2 heads.
Those lying and covering things up in the past did not take into account the tremendous leaps in technologies that has occurred every decade for the last 50 years ensuring that eventually they would be found out...or did they just assume their deceptions would eventually fail and that IS the first step in disclosure as everyone responsible would be long dead and buried?
SOmetimes people who spend all of their time lying are just incapable of telling the truth at all, ever.
Probably an attempt to discredit Wikileaks OR they just use Wikileaks as a magician would do on a stage to distract the masses perception.
Long time ago (last 30 years) I studied/considered over 10 different "moon-landing is fake" documentaries ... I always assumed they (USA) have a "backup plan" if anything goes wrong to beat the Russians in the "Space Race" public image as the Russians already were the first to launch successfully a Satellite Sputnik 4 Oct 1957 which scared a lot of US Citizens. This was 12 years before US had a real Space Success.
So I would not be surprised if there is a mix of fake and real footage's circling on the internet as BOTH are possible but are not mutual exclusive!
You can use a strong Earth Based laser pointing at the exact spot where the US Moon-lander left its gear and you will get a confirmation using regular telescopes.
Part of the possible deception could be they used Russian Space Probes Footage's visiting the Moon multiple times.
... and the possibilities of being it fake AND real are endless!
So in my view they DID go to the moon but have a cover up (fake footage's) too!
- Mind you that any hard core Nasa fan nor "authorities" would never admit they have to have a cover up plan if anything goes wrong.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/att...1&d=1609160909
Original Footage:
cheers,
- Notice that my point of view is extremely rare, I wonder why that is, maybe because am a "die hard" Asperger with an attitude problem. ;)
John Kuhles aka "ExomatrixTV"
December 28, 2020
What make people believe it never happen? videos like this for sure is not, I am hearing "the man never set foot on moon" since my teenager time. Youtube is packed with videos like this.
We got a lot of technology that is not yet available to the general public, one would be surprised when starting see flying cars in the smart cities of the future. Some of these technologies goes back to the 40's and 50's.
Nikola Tesla, he invented the tower to broadcast electric power (a.k.a. wireless) among many others brilliant inventions.
Edward Leedskalnin was able to built Coral Castle using magnetism, stones weighing several tons was moved from one place to another without using any special modern tool. https://leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsWritings.html
It doesn't mean I believe every single thing NASA or any other space agency says.
My mind always goes back to this clip...
Interesting to watch the whole clip he’s very careful with his words but gets caught out after a few minutes and guard goes down, the interesting bitS are after 7 minutes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4UP6nRMuGs
Viking
It was actually reverse magnetism. Quite an interesting theory behind it and many people have tried to duplicate his work....to no avail.Quote:
Posted by palehorse
The proof that the missions were faked is crushing.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1395658
I uploaded that to one of my Youtube channels in 2006 ;)Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
Love it :D
here is a list of the top conspiracy theories that some people believe and follow, cult-like stuffs!
- holographic object.
- flat moon.
- alien military base in the dark side, we humans are not allowed to land there.
- hollow spacecraft.
- hollow moon - alien miners harvested all minerals from the moon.
- nazis have a base on the moon.
- there is big rabbits over there (ancient Chinese belief).
- Kubrick directed the fake moon landing footage.
- moon landing was real but footage was faked.
- Van Allen Radiation Belt won't allow anyone to go to the moon.
there is much more crazy theories out there.
I observed the moon using a telescope quite a few times, one time it was a professional equipment, it seems perfectly real object for me, the lunar craters are impressive.
100% proof from Nasa Webb they are faking photos!
(same earth in both photos)
In a court: "One lie" = "You are a liar".. and cant be trusted with anything! - Period!
Apollo 8: Earthrise 26 december 1968
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/apollo-8-earthrise
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f..._earthrise.jpg
Apollo 11, July 1969
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/FlagEarth.jpg
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/FlagEarth.jpg
Thanks Valle - it says it all.
They DO fake photo's - no doubt about it, and have an airbrush dept in full swing . I have no doubt they lie, hide and conceal. Always known it.
I tend to think of the above though as an example of "artistic licence" by those that HAVE been there. And for the time a very professional attempt at showing what WE wanted to see - a crisp clear image of flag on moon with crisp clear earth behind it.
The "Wikileaks" video though is amateurish ( for gods sake Capricorn 1 is a well known film - I recognized it from the depths of my failing memory, kudos to Exo for confirming it )
The sad thing is how these days people are so easily taken in by such amateurs!
I wouldn't discount the video simply for the inclusion of the Capricorn 1 scenes. That could simply be someone poisoning the well to taint all the footage.
Not proof. The Apollo 11 flag with the Earth in the background is a known composite of the famous Apollo 8 'Earthrise' image - either for publicity, or for effect, or just a joke. It is not a genuine image from the official archive.Quote:
Posted by Valle
This is:
https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5905.jpg
(https://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a1...umbs.html#Flag)
Where's the shadow of the flag?Quote:
Posted by Star Mariner
Ok, thanks
"either for publicity, or for effect, or just a joke" - ok hehe!
- its easy to understand why.. "its very funny!"
And make it easy to joke about all other composit images and "moon stones" they gave away = its the "effect" :clapping:
The shadow is on the right, you can see it.Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanWhere's the shadow of the flag?Quote:
Posted by Star Mariner
If it’s a genuine foto, I don’t know.
Not saying there aren't discrepancies with the apollo images. There are multiple threads about this, and it's been extensively discussed. I'm definitely in agreement - there are anomalies. But that doesn't mean the missions themselves were hoaxed.Quote:
Posted by Valle
Attachment 45623Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
It's in there... but what's that half buried cable doing there?Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
Just so that you all know... the Apollo Moon landings were 100% real. All the alleged anomalies are fake. Why would anyone doubt NASA, I wonder?!
I guess they didn't have wireless that time, then it was wires and cables everywhere.. lolQuote:
Posted by Gwin RuIt's in there... but what's that half buried cable doing there?Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
about 3 inches to the rightQuote:
Posted by Bill RyanWhere's the shadow of the flag?Quote:
Posted by Star Mariner
Man on the moon double speed (0:56)Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
:o
Set this video at double speed and the movements look just like Earth movements.
Historic Apollo 11 Moonwalk Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3oXFFISI0&t=3419s
The speed can be adjusted by clicking on the icon on the lower right that looks like a gear with six teeth.
I was a kid in the days when it was accepted that pictures don't lie.
Unfortunately, those days are gone, as it seems today all they do is lie
The Nazi's were apparently the ones whose craft reached the Moon first, then under the program called "Alternative 3," the Nazi's and Americans left for Mars from their base in a Moon crater. It has been many years since someone loaned me that book; however, I recall stories about people being murdered on earth to cover up the existence of the ongoing program to hoodwink scientists into settling on Mars since the Earth was supposed to be going into non-existence. They kidnapped human beings for slave labor and all sorts of horrors. I believe the book is still out there. Get it and read it. However you imagine the U.S. got to the moon, whether it was the way they said or not, they did occupy it and go to Mars. Connecting the dots, the US, reptilians and greys, along with Anunnaki who are human sized appear to be there working with ongoing programs. In addition to evidence of long past occupation by others, including giants, there are trees on the moon according to a woman who worked with Nasa and saw the photos. The picture is shown on a video on Youtube.com. If there are trees, there is water and air, and some degree of gravity. As I have said elsewhere on Avalon, it appears that even Pluto has a settlement on it. There is a video at present, "Moon Rising" by Jose Escamilla showing settlement patterns on the Moon, etc.