WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

We again have a war presidency with Biden/Harris for sure. The agenda seems clear.

The US now without doubt prepares and helps Ukraine for war against the Donbass. The Donbass also prepares for war and started for the first time a conscription of young men fit for military service. This could become very 'hot' very soon. This seems dangerous since it could possibly escalate even into a WW3 scenario.

This is information by a Russia insider and investigative native German reporter who lives in Russia and reports for a German alternative news site (Nuoviso) mostly about Russian affairs or the Russian view of international affairs.

So far I have not found a more detailed and comprised info than this one on a lot of alternative or mainstream English sites. But there will soon be some for sure.

Therefore I use this article and applied the Deepl.com translator (https://www.deepl.com/translator said by many to be the best) for a translation into English from the German source text. I also include an English RT article about the situation below it.

I so far find T. Roeper's writing always realistic and fact based although I did not always agree with some conclusions. Yet it is often down to earth and no nonsense talk mostly.

Here is still the original article if s.o. is relatively fluent in German:

https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2021/was...d-vorbereiten/

If you can listen to German then here is the interview on Nuoviso, the impending and seemingly unavoidable Donbass war is the first of several topics.

https://nuoviso.tv/home/tacheles/18-...l-tacheles-57/

Translation (deepl):

What kind of war the USA is preparing against Russia

There was a commentary on Russian television that makes one think and worry, because the logic cannot be dismissed. The new US administration is heading for war is playing with fire. And it is in Europe.

from Anti-Mirror
March 29, 2021 00:58 AM

I keep reporting on how the situation in Ukraine politically, but also militarily in the Donbass, is getting worse since Joe Biden took office as US president. Everything points to an imminent Ukrainian offensive, and in Kiev the opposition and the last media critical of the government are being eliminated at the same time. Meanwhile, new arms shipments continue to arrive in Ukraine from the United States. I report on this regularly in my "Ukraine Updates," the latest of which you can find here.

And you don't hear a word about all this in the Western media. It is not even reported in the West that Kiev has already openly abandoned the Minsk Agreement. And the fact that the Western states, including Germany, recently voted at the OSCE against a simple resolution calling for the implementation of the Minsk Agreement, the "quality media" did not report either.

The West is also already openly turning away from the peace plan for the Donbass. But the new fierce war is supposed to come as a complete surprise to the public in the West and, of course, the media will accuse Russia of having started the war.

In the program "News of the Week" on Russian television, the presenter in a commentary put one and one together and mentioned the possible scenarios and I translated it.

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In the program "News of the Week" we want to tell not only about events, but also about phenomena. To look at phenomena or sequences of incidents or words, we consider important already for this reason, to be prepared for future events. After all, events are also prepared. In my opinion, the West is now preparing nothing more and nothing less than a war against us.

The scale of the war is not really clear yet, but America hopes, first, that it can control the scale of a military conflict. Second, it hopes that a war, as in times past, will not touch United States territory. And third, the United States hopes that a war will benefit it, as usual. At least that was the case in the two world wars, after which America, having shed little blood of its own, was swimming in wealth while both allies and adversaries were in a much worse position.

Now it looks like America is up to something similar. And there is a phenomenon that demonstrates that quite convincingly. We are talking today about the words that prepare for war, planting in minds the thoughts of the inevitability of conflict and naming in advance the culprits. These words are heard much more frequently since the arrival of the new administration in the United States. And in Europe, one hears their echo.

"Russia is a dangerous neighbor!" EU chief diplomat Josep Borrell said before the start of the NATO ministerial meeting in Brussels. By the way, recently in Moscow Borrell behaved decently, but now in Brussels he parroted everything in the presence of US Secretary of State Blinken.

And this is Anthony Blinken, the US Secretary of State, in Brussels. "We will take decisive action against Russian aggression, against actions that undermine our alliances," the politician said.

What Russian aggression is Blinken talking about? NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg deciphers the puzzle: "Despite years of pressure and efforts to engage Russia in constructive dialogue, Russia is reinforcing the pattern of its repressive behavior inside the country and its aggressive behavior outside its borders. NATO countries have pointed to Russia's misinformation and propaganda, its attempts to influence elections, cyberattacks, and use of chemical weapons against political opponents both inside and outside Russia."

Interestingly, this is all unsubstantiated, but it's repeated so often that we're supposed to get used to it. And then there's the U.S. President's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan: "We believe that relations with Russia will face a difficult time. They will face serious challenges. They're going to demand that America defend its interests."

In psychology, there is the concept of "projection," when a person projects his fears, his desires, and his intentions from himself onto others, and thus actually attributes to another what he himself has in his heart. This is exactly the kind of projection that Putin compared to a childhood story in response to Biden's insults: As you call others, so you are yourself. The same is now true of Russia's "aggression" that we hear about so often and obsessively from the West. And in my opinion, Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Russian Security Council, has correctly dissected the American rhetoric.

"My American colleague James Sullivan predicts difficult days ahead for the United States in its relations with Russia. This is not the first such statement by U.S. officials. We know this, but I want to emphasize that if they're predicting it, they're planning it. And if they plan it, they can implement it. But then they will be responsible for the actions that follow," Patrushev said.

And as a follow-up, U.S. Defense Secretary General Lloyd Austin on the Senate floor: "The primary objective of U.S. relations with the Russian Federation in the area of security should be to deter Russia from actions against the vital interests of the United States, including by protecting our allies from military aggression."

Again, Russian aggression. At the same time, America is preparing aggression. Right now there are two American missile cruisers hanging around in the Black Sea. What are they doing here? On the other side of the world as seen from them. And overall, the activity of the NATO Navy off our coasts has increased many times over in the last year. These data were given by the Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov, and he added that "the number of U.S. strategic air force flights near the Russian state border has also increased." As for the reconnaissance aircraft, their visits to us have increased by a third in the last year. That is, the words that prepare for war are not just words.

China faces roughly the same problem. Verbal accusations against Beijing of repression and aggression are followed by an increased U.S. military presence near China's borders. In addition to virtually constant military exercises in the Yellow Sea, the Americans have permanently stationed the destroyer Rafael Peralta in Japan, and in March it was reported that U.S. missiles would be stationed on the islands of the East China Sea and South China Sea, in case of "potential Chinese aggression," of course. The missiles mean new U.S. missile bases on the islands. The document about it has already been sent to Congress for approval. The requested budget for the project is $27.4 billion. Not bad.

All this together means that Russia and China should move closer together and not just stand back to back, but cooperate more actively and form a global construct for peace.

Listen to what the commander of U.S. forces in Europe and commander-in-chief of NATO forces in Europe, General Tod Walters, says: "Russia is committing malicious acts designed to destabilize the entire world, many of those actions are being committed in Europe. Russia continues to pose a threat to the very existence of the United States and our European allies."

And this after NATO expansion eastward to our borders under conditions where the defense budget of "aggressive" Russia is one-seventeenth that of America! And the military budget of the NATO countries together, so ostentatiously trembling before Russia, is more than a trillion dollars a year, 23 times more than ours! Is the level of corruption there that unimaginable, or is it an unimaginable level of paranoia? Most likely, there is preparation for war in these incredible figures of military budgets of our potential friends.

Are the NATO countries going to fight Russia? Directly? No. Their states and their civil societies are not in the necessary condition for it. All of them are flabby and helpless. Covid has confirmed that. With this clear threat, with human casualties in NATO countries already well over a million, the NATO mechanism has been shown to be meaningless. Yet this was a test of its ability to protect its peoples. But instead of protection and solidarity, we have seen mutual theft of masks, humiliating bickering over vaccines, and stoking anti-Russian fears even against Sputnik-V.

But America must contain Russia - with war if necessary. So far, everything - including promises of support - looks like sending Ukraine to slaughter - against the Donbass. The blame for the war will be placed on Russia, and they are already talking in advance about "holding Russia accountable for the aggression" and so on. And then come new sanctions and so on. This is the plan in America now. Ukraine in the plan is just consumables for ignition.

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Another article (first parts) from Russia Today:

Kremlin says situation in Donbass ‘frightening’ as Ukraine calls on NATO & Washington for support in event of conflict with Russia

Moscow has warned that fighting is escalating in eastern Ukraine, insisting that the region must avoid a full-scale conflict, as Kiev asks NATO to step up its local combat readiness and says the US would come to its aid in a war.

Speaking to journalists on Friday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that a series of military clashes in the Donbass region was a cause for concern. “Unfortunately for us,” he said, “the reality on the line of contact is quite frightening, and not just one, but many, provocations by the Ukrainian Armed Forces are taking place.”

Kiev insists that Russia is building up troops near the shared border and blames separatists, who have previously received support from Moscow, for breaking a ceasefire. “Russia’s current escalation is systemic, [the] largest in recent years,” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dimitry Kuleba said in a statement issued earlier this week. Kiev officials last week said that four of its soldiers had been killed by shelling during clashes with rebels in the east of the country. (...)

https://www.rt.com/russia/519963-kre...bass-conflict/

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This is a dangerous flashpoint, note your diary. On 1 May there is a NATO meeting in Brussels. The United States wants the Ukraine and Georgia to apply for membership of NATO. Russia has warned that if either does so it will mean war. It might be touch and go.

The US can rattle its sabres to its heart's content, but Europeans are well aware that war would spell disaster for them without their fuel imports on which they are so dependent:

"Russia is the main EU supplier of crude oil, natural gas and solid fossil fuels
The stability of the EU’s energy supply may be threatened if a high proportion of imports are concentrated among relatively few external partners. In 2018, almost two thirds of the extra-EU's crude oil imports came from Russia (30 %), Iraq (9 %) and Saudi Arabia, Norway, Kazakhstan and Nigeria (7 % each). A similar analysis shows that almost three quarters of the EU's imports of natural gas came from Russia (40 %), Norway (18 %) and Algeria (11 %), while almost three quarters of solid fuel (mostly coal) imports originated from Russia (42 %), the United States (18 %) and Colombia (13 %)."
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...and it should be his last, if indeed he is the president, which I doubt. When the ****s hits the fan and the
air clears we will see clearly what is what. Wait and see!!!

War should be banned, period. To fight and die for somebody else's disagreements is beyond stupid.

All the quantities of gas that our country imports - regardless of the names of the companies and the nationality of those who sell them to us - are of Russian origin. In addition, imported gas in this year was about 45% more expensive today.

In these conditions, the question is: why did Romania end up importing expensive resources from the Russians, given that it has the fourth largest natural gas reserve in Europe, being surpassed only by Great Britain, Norway and the Netherlands? it will not be a European war anyway.

"A hybrid war inventoried by asymmetric elements of influence: energy, economic, humanitarian, ecological, religious, ethnic and cultural. The mixed implementation of hybrid measures was also facilitated by certain specific conditions in Ukraine: the strong pro-Russian attitude of the Donbass population , volatile borders, endemic corruption, Russia's penetration of the country's defense, security and intelligence structures.

Russian hybrid warfare is based on the model of a real military campaign, where the propaganda is "the military aviation", troll factories are "diversionary detachments", hackers are "the rocket forces", Russian speakers are "The Fifth Column", NGOs and GONGOs are "the recruitment centers" and private armed units are "military wing".

Ukraine remains a case study for Russian hybrid warfare and despite the number of projects set up to counter Russian propaganda and disinformation campaigns, the overall impact is considered to be high. "

https://www.sri.ro/en


The Russian cold (one last cold kiss) is an irony of fate ,your feet can become cast in "concrete" , saliva and nostrils freeze, blood thickens, lips stick and the mind becomes heavy, "Vaseline" in the rifle freezes, and maybe, despite any equipment, first time the military will have to fight the cold, it's not a summer vacation with open puppet theater operations:).

Many are bored with "my brand is a crisis", a diplomatic curse of control without any historical aspiration or innovative vision outside of interests, and whoever enlists participates in a rather abominable form of stupidity with considerable losses as they were always.

Putin can still tolerate an "independent" Ukraine as long as it is "friendly" to Russia's national interests and, like any despot, trusts only his definition of this friendship. Putin is a great strategist...what are Biden's chances of a confrontation with Putin? Maybe Putin reminds him how many countries he destabilized, along with Obama, during his 8 years in office, with "their Arab springs", throwing them into chaos: Tunis, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen… Plus they have put his tail in the coup attempt in Turkey.Or not. Only politics and lives lost in vain...

Whether we like it or not, Russia is the dominant power in Eastern Europe (Romania with experience under Russian domination and with a Romanian territory taken, knows through heavy sacrifices what it means); NATO camps can only carry out their "charm" and some small interventions, otherwise a lot of propaganda and a psychological war in less known contexts of perpetuation this time, however it is too complicated to be called, perhaps, war, and there will be no realistic solution to the current crisis unless Russia and Ukraine find a modus vivendi.

I read today that Putin is amassing troops in the Artic. Since the US borders no longer exist he will have no problem invading. (I guess that will fix the southern invader problem). Can anyone say Red Dawn!

I don't know, I bet there is a lot of stuff up there that we don't know about.

Boston Robotics probably has some giant mechanical polar bears and stuff. ;)

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I read today that Putin is amassing troops in the Artic. Since the US borders no longer exist he will have no problem invading. (I guess that will fix the southern invader problem). Can anyone say Red Dawn!

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I don't think Putin's a stupid man, and invading the US would be a blunder of Biblical proportions.

The following makes much more sense, as well as further securing his northern flank:

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Moscow has prioritised beefing up its military presence in the Arctic region, which is believed to hold up to a quarter of the Earth's undiscovered oil and gas.

Mr Putin has in the past cited estimates that put the value of Arctic mineral riches at £22trillion.

Russia, the US, Canada, Denmark and Norway have all been trying to assert jurisdiction over parts of the Arctic, as shrinking polar ice opens new opportunities for tapping resources and opening new shipping lanes.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-Arctic.html

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Posted by Karen (Geophyz)

I read today that Putin is amassing troops in the Artic. Since the US borders no longer exist he will have no problem invading. (I guess that will fix the southern invader problem). Can anyone say Red Dawn!

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I never understood the Red Dawn scenario. Even on many alternative sites (e.g. Natural News) I often read how especially China (not Russia that much) will 'invade' the US. Nobody will invade the US. The US is the leading nuclear power and can blow any nation to smitherenes in minutes. Yes it can be done to them by Russia or China too (at least 100 times while NATO/US can do it to them even a 1000 times over). So I really don't get this stuff whenever it comes up.

I keep imagining trucks and tanks etc coming from the artic moving south through northern Canada and then they are all stuck in the mud...or as the locals call it ...moose mush. :)

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Posted by Karen (Geophyz)

I read today that Putin is amassing troops in the Artic. Since the US borders no longer exist he will have no problem invading. (I guess that will fix the southern invader problem). Can anyone say Red Dawn!

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I never understood the Red Dawn scenario. Even on many alternative sites (e.g. Natural News) I often read how especially China (not Russia that much) will 'invade' the US. Nobody will invade the US. The US is the leading nuclear power and can blow any nation to smitherenes in minutes. Yes it can be done to them by Russia or China too (at least 100 times while NATO/US can do it to them even a 1000 times over). So I really don't get this stuff whenever it comes up.

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Russia alone has as many "official" bombs as all the NATO countries added together, currently Russia is the country with more nuclear bombs, and the ICBM missiles are more advanced and unnstopable by any defence system the US currenly has. Not sure where you got your numbers

And thats not even counting the around 3000 bombs Russia reclaimed from Ukrania in the 90's that were supposedly "destroyed"

The US is not the leading nuclear power, that's why they are in a hurry to develop new technologies, they are using tech from the 60's still, and their ICBMs are very old tech, not up to date for the current world standards

No one would invade the US, just as no one would invade Russia, there are battles that can't be won. Dead people don't win battles, and everyone would be dead

Also NATO has made lots of research into war with Russia and every simulation result always puts them on the losing end. They words not mine

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...r-games-2019-3

The US doesn't have any possible way to stop modern Russian nuclear missiles, their defence systems were created for 60s and 70s tech and just updated over time, but are not modern at all (can't track modern missiles moving at hypersonic speeds, or hypersonic missiles that are not entering from earth orbit, for example)

Anyway that's just not going to happen, at least for now

There is no point to using nuclear weapons in a massive strike, or even a single one. One would bring them all and then all would be for naught.

The world is connected now is such a way that to destroy a part is to destroy itself. That is why the fight now is social and psychological. An attempt to take control of a place where everything is still operational, but the winner is the one with the most influence.

A rebel force in a skirmish at the border of a large country like Russia is like bringing out the knight in chess - the first move. It's presence is a show of force - of what could happen. Russia might have initiated the skirmish just to show people that is has a powerful knight, and it could use him. Just showing that it is there might be more powerful than actually moving it forward into battle.

Psychological power.

I often felt if this power clash does play out, as mentioned above, there would be similarities to Red Dawn. It’s a film that constantly pops up into my head.

But there would be no need for a turf invasion, or bombs. An EMP knocking out power on a wide scale area would do the trick. I think this would be the attack (or red flag more like)

• Russia may INVADE Ukraine in 2022. Here’s what could happen next.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcDBm-G-Ut4

U.S. intelligence recently warned that 175,000 Russian troops may be involved in an invasion of Ukraine as early as 2022…which is less than two months away. Putin has wanted to annex his neighbor state for years, and now Biden’s botched handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal may have given him all the reasons necessary to forge ahead, BlazeTV researcher and writer Jason Buttrill tells Glenn. But, if an invasion happens, will the US get involved? And if so, in what capacity? Glenn and Jason discuss possible outcomes, and they describe how some of Biden's moves over the past year may have paved the way for such an event to occur…

• Putin Sets World on Edge Amassing Russian troops along Ukraine Border

If I were Putin, I would converse with China and arrange to begin the Ukraine invasion when China invades Taiwan.
The US would have to pick it's poison, no way the US could tackle both those fronts with a jabbed army/navy.
The Pentagon seems to be actively destroying the military with gender concerns and critical race theory. The USA should not think their military is something of pride right now.

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If I were Putin, I would converse with China and arrange to begin the Ukraine invasion when China invades Taiwan.
The US would have to pick it's poison, no way the US could tackle both those fronts with a jabbed army/navy.
The Pentagon seems to be actively destroying the military with gender concerns and critical race theory. The USA should not think their military is something of pride right now.

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Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. Not that I want any of this to happen but strategically, that is the move to make. And if, God forbid, they put out a joint statement as they invade (simply a statement signed off by them both), it would make the west reconsider any response because of the potential escalation.

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If I were Putin, I would converse with China and arrange to begin the Ukraine invasion when China invades Taiwan.
The US would have to pick it's poison, no way the US could tackle both those fronts with a jabbed army/navy.

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I hadn't read your post — and just now I was going to suggest exactly the same thing.

The U.S. won one single time since WWII; the 1991 invasion of Kuwait by Iraq [somewhere around 1oo days of action, fiercely swift].

The U.S., the military and it's intelligence are not winners, no dominating records of success. Countless failures and expensive failures to boot. Yet many nations will still request assistance from the americans. South Korea cried for help a few years ago and an american carrier group got on the scene sort of slower than they wanted and anticipated. The demands on america are for real, but the substance of the american war-fighter is lacking; and I mean in a senior war-fighting mentality.

Technology is not the only facet of a winning war-fighting machine. They say if you can fight in the jungle, you can fight anywhere. Well the U.S. lost bigtime in the jungles of Vietnam.

I think the americans are more beholden to Taiwan than to Ukraine. It would be wise for the U.S. to stay out of it much like the beginning of WWI and WWII when the americans got involved nearly two years into both conflicts. But they won't. They don't learn. Russia wasted 1o years in Afghanistan decades before america repeated history, wasting another over 1o years in that country.

America is not comprised of winners. [You sound like you are sore about america.] Because I am.

I watched a time elapsed video of the Chinese building an entire hospital in 1o days. In america, it can take 3 months to build a custom house. China does not mess around. They have the labour pool to get a lot done and quickly.

I don't know much about Russia but I get the feeling they are greedy as all h!ll. They own some extensive and rich territory as it is.

I think america will be losing in this scenario no matter how it plays out. Europe will certainly be at a loss. These will be trying times for millions of people and the modern aspects of warfare are scary indeed.

MSM reports an estimated 100,000 Russian troops sit on the borders of Ukraine.
Moscow has denied any plans to attack or invade Ukraine.

Today 90 tonnes of US "lethal aid" has arrived in Ukraine, It's the first shipment of a recently approved package of US military aid for Ukraine, and included ammunition for "front-line defenders".

US embassy in Ukraine have ‘requests staff evacuation’ amid war fears.

Is this just a continuation of the ongoing usual bluster and rhetoric?

Or should we all be on war alert?

Roeper's articles imv are the best source and analysis especially about this topic since he also translates a lot from the Russian media. (He is an investigative journalist who is German living in Russia and has also recently written an excellent book about the Plandemic - 'Inside Corona'). So here is the most recent one via googletranslate:

https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.transla..._x_tr_pto=wapp

January 22, 2022 3:30 p.m

Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, issued an official Russian statement on the situation in and around Ukraine at her press conference, which I am translating here without comment in order to convey the other side's point of view.

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Western and Ukrainian media and officials are more and more actively repeating their speculations about an impending Russian “invasion” of Ukraine. That's how they put it. We are convinced that the purpose of this campaign is to cover up information for the preparation of our own large-scale provocations, including military ones, which could have extremely tragic consequences for regional and global security.

Unfortunately, our fears have been confirmed by recent media reports citing official structures, sources and so on. For the past few days, the United Kingdom has been sending weapons to Ukraine with military transport aircraft from its air force. At least 6 flights were organised, each aircraft carrying up to 77.5 tons of cargo, that is about 460 tons of weapons in total. It has become known that man-portable anti-tank systems will be delivered for use in urban areas. Incidentally, the Ukrainian military is being trained by Western instructors at the Yavoriv military training ground in the Lviv region for precisely this type of warfare.

Canada has dispatched more than 200 special forces under the pretense of protecting its embassy and evacuating diplomats in an emergency.

Most extensive, however, is the military "support" - as they call it - from the United States of America. In the last few months alone, Washington has delivered 30 Javelin anti-tank missile systems and 180 missiles for Ukraine. The media had previously reported that a $20 million arms shipment was expected in January this year. In total, the United States provided Ukraine with military aid worth $2.5 billion from 2014 to the end of 2021, according to the Pentagon. Before the turn of the year, CNN reported that Biden gave Ukraine an additional $200 million for this purpose. In 2022, the US military budget provides $300 million for such spending.

In Ukraine, such support is seen as a license to conduct a military operation in Donbass. Ukrainian forces have not stopped shelling civilians in the east of the country. According to the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine, the number of ceasefire violations since New Year's Day has already exceeded three thousand.

Once again we are compelled to draw attention to the issue of rampant neo-Nazism in Ukraine. These days the Kyiv City Council renamed a public transport stop in honor of the leader of the Ukrainian Nationalist Organization, Robert Shukhevych, who had served in the SS, previously named after General Nikolai Vatutin, the liberator of the Ukrainian capital from the Nazis was. What else do you need? Does it need any more evidence of what's going on there? The well-known anti-fascist and head of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee Dolinsky reported on threats against his life by ultra-nationalists. Nobody wants to hear or see that either.Unfortunately, the strengthening of the neo-Nazi scene in Ukraine does not worry either our western partners or the relevant international organizations.

We call on Western countries to stop their aggressive anti-Russian information campaign and to stop promoting the militarization of Ukraine by drawing the country into NATO and to focus their efforts on encouraging the regime in Kiev to sign the Minsk agreement and implement other international obligations.

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If you look for the past 2 years as wartime preparations to get things in order from the civilian side of things on the west everything makes sense war is at stake right now.

You had 2 years to prepare your stuff together for how it will be like under WW3 that might take some years to play through with huge humanitarian loses and disruptions.

Practice... All was a civilian game of play for the war. Was a long time since serious war was at the play in the west. Getting the whole of western society accustomed to wartime conditions in preplanned event so they can manage to some extent before **** really starts as has been planned to happen.

It's the final showdown to take down Russia according to all western players.
You did not hear the constant propaganda to vilify Russia for nothing.

This situation is very concerning and I think we have to bear in mind that the Globalists want Russia... they want Putin gone and a Globalist friendly political structure put in place... and I think this is what it's all about - it isn't the American Military any more - it's the Globalist's (NWO) Military - and other military around the Western World (and NATO) will have been deeply infiltrated as well... I think Ukraine was considered the gateway into the Soviet Union in WW2 and it's probably still strategically thought of in that way now... and they have been building up to all this for many years....

Before Trump won the 2016 election and gatecrashed the NWO party, Hilary Clinton was banging the war drums in Russia's direction and now Biden is the Puppet President continuing in that direction...

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I don't believe there will be a nuclear war between US and Russia directly although a kind of WW3 hot war will take place but with conventional weapons between Ukraine and Russia. NATO will withdraw or not take part. It is political aim for the US to have Russia the scapegoat and bogeyman (again) to drive it even more away from Europe and this is already achieved by it.

T. Roeper draws the same conclusion at the end of this article and it makes a lot of sense to me. It also confirms all the US think tank speakers' such as George Freedman's statements years ago who said the main US policy goal is (and always was!!!) to drive Europe and Russia further apart.

https://www-anti--spiegel-ru.transla..._x_tr_pto=wapp

You don't have to share the Russians' concerns, but the question of whether Ukraine is worth a third world war should start to be asked in the capitals of the West - and especially Europe. Russia seems to be ready for anything in the event of a massive move by NATO forces into Ukraine, why is the West doing this? Especially since the US clearly says that they do not want war with Russia over Ukraine, which means that in the event of war, NATO will quickly withdraw from Ukraine.

The answer should be obvious: the US wants to involve Russia in a new and expensive proxy war right on the Russian border and in the middle of Europe. This is neither in the Russian nor in the European interest - not to mention Ukraine.

Why isn't a European leader waking up and standing up to the madness of the US?

My intuition is telling me that Biden/Harris have absolutely no involvement with this latest War Hawk stance from the USA, they are of course mere front line managers of the powerful, pernicious Pentagon bureaucracy and the inscrutable military/industrial complex. If these maniacs are planning to create a limited theater of warfare, much like the Vietnam/Iraq wars they will be tragically mistaken, this might spell THE move by China/Russia to seize the global reigns, to implement their vision of how the world should operate, with a vastly reduced and much weakened Western world unable to withstand them.
The U.K 'deep state' is showing its fangs to Russia, the old world gravitas now just comes off as being chest puffing from a vanquished geriatric club.
The enormous tragedy of it all will be the full consequences that we shall have to endure, as the ordinary folk of the world, this might be the BIG ONE.
Let's pray that our world will be spared, and the people allowed to live in peace, Amen.

Since no one appears to be making a clear connection here, hopefully this will help in figuring out what's truly happening

There is no actual aggression from Russia, or any true build up the way the warmongers are pushing in all possible ways across the western media. That's a complete fabrication, that's why you have not seen the satellite, drones and other images they would be publishing, *if* they had some. You can't hide 100 thousand soldiers behind or under a tree, you can't hide all the logistic support that goes with it, no one can on this planet. And yet, it's all talk and more talk, why? Ask yourselves that

When the west media says "Russian" aggression, they are misrepresenting facts, for example, that Ukraine army has been again attacking Donbas sseparatists, and when they hit back, it's called Russian aggression. Day by day, there have been attacks from the Ukraine and into towns in Donbass, have you seen any news about it on west media? If the weapons the US and UK are sending, according to them, are not useful against an army like the Russian, then why send it? Obvious answer is, the separatist army at Donbass is vulnerable to those rocket launchers and other armament being sent. That's the main purpose of this fake hilarious and hysterical narrative, to arm the Ukranian army with "light" weapons that can't damage the Russians, but sure can damage the so far unnamed Donbass army

Why do you think the western media is so careful and walks around mentioning the separatist army currently working in Donbass? Why are they trying hard to avoid any mention of them? Short answer: Those separatists are actual Ukranians, directed by veteran Ukranian soldiers, full of volunteers and new cadets and so on. There is a very big effort to suppress the reality that in Donbass, the people fighting against Ukraine, are Ukranians as well

Imagine an honest media saying "The military separatist army of Donbass, created by a group of Ukranian veteran soldiers that rejected the coup-imposed nazi government in Ukraine, is facing a new attack supported by the US and UK, who have provided new and more advanced weapons the separatist army can't fight against. This is done under the guise of supporting Ukraine against 'Russian Aggression' "

It would not play good with the narrative, if western public understood the reality of the situation, "that the separatists are Ukrainian people trying to create their own separate state, and break all links to Ukraine because of the Nazi situation and government controlling that country". It could also cause empathy with them, as it caused with Taiwan and Hong Kong, and of course that must not happen

See this news, it is not in English but i post a translation below
https://rusvesna.su/news/1642168605

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In December 2021, the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard suffered significant losses among the personnel. So, for a month of hostilities in the Donbass, the “square” lost at least 28 people in the form of “cargo 200” and about 80 more people in the form of “cargo 300”.

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"cargo 200" means killed in action
"cargo 300" means injured in action

Here's the full english translation through google translate
https://rusvesna-su.translate.goog/n..._x_tr_pto=wapp

This was from December casualties, so this is already happening from at least one month, hard to publish this kind of news on western media, if you can't blame Russia for it, or if you have to explain to people why some of the people dead there are Ukranian born, and there were no actual Russian born nationals involved. How then you create that narrative that is being pushed so hard these days? You can't, so "let them die and wait for the guns and rockets, then we'll take over Donbass under any pretext and kill the separatists and call them 'Russian terrorists' "

So i'll say it again:

Ukranians are killing among themselves, just as if war broke between China and Taiwan, and this is hidden once again because it's not justifiable to send guns and rockets to an army doing this, it has to be completely hidden from public view that the separatists are in the exact same situation as Taiwan and HongKong are


And this is nothing new

There are some VERY involved analysis on this confrontation from several posters who seem to believe they have the only possible explanation, YES I am aware that Russia is not overtly offering aggression here, that Putin's regime is merely responding to NATO and the USA meddling with Ukraine and deploying increasing military hardware, missiles and much more on the border - Russia's response is one of a reasonable concern for its own sovereign integrity being disrespected!
This seems to be the only narrative the UK/USA/NATO alliance can offer, a hostile deplorable attitude, where they present a callous and unyielding intent to whittle away at the old USSR territories, look what happened in 2014, when they created a Coup in Ukraine, installing their own puppet leader - that was savage.
As people have observed, how would the U.K feel if Russia installed a missile system in the Netherlands, and began building its troops up throughout Europe - or the USA if Russia took up residence on the Mexico border?
Whatever the analysis, and whether or not clever journalists offer us their worldly wisdom and state this will not be a Nuclear 'hot war' - how do they really know. I mean opinions might be educated ones, but nobody can truly predict the outcomes, stop pretending you can! Let's see a little humility in these posts and less hubris - that would be refreshing.
I hope things do not deteriorate, but not one of us can call this, the situation could VERY WELL get out of hand, it will not take so very much when the precarious nature of what is at stake is fully realized.

Hi Friends,

With all respect to all you good people there, and I know that there are a lot of good and smart people in USA, but I have to say this: USA is the most evil entity in the world today, and all of us would have much better lives if USA vanished from the face of the Earth.

I'm one of those people, and I live in one of those countries, who have directly and indirectly suffered from the evil deeds of USA and NATO.

The biggest problem that I see concerning USA is that the huge percentage of population is completely clueless about the rest of the world, and are totally brainwashed by MSM and blinded by politicians.

That is why USA government is doing all the evil deeds with support from their own people, ignorant people who could stop those evill deeds from happening.

When I see them saying "thank you for your service" to soldiers who are going aroung the world, causing trouble and killing innocent people and children, it's crazy.

Kind regards..

interesting information from a former Texan who lives in the Donbass, 5 km away from the "frontline"

https://covertactionmagazine.com/202...scist-brigade/

some more interesting information, found on the saker blog

http://thesaker.is/an-aftermath-of-w...sky-interview/

• Tucker: We're Moving Closer To War

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PqfyZ618Bks

• Russia Ramps Up More Troops At Ukraine Border

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5lWsDzF115g

• Biden 'Bears A Lot Of The Blame' For Russia's Deployment Of Troops To Ukraine's Border: Sen. Cotton:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3VUqlqkFJL4

Alternative viewpoint to the MSM narrative:

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Posted by Mike Gorman

Whatever the analysis, and whether or not clever journalists offer us their worldly wisdom and state this will not be a Nuclear 'hot war' - how do they really know. I mean opinions might be educated ones, but nobody can truly predict the outcomes, stop pretending you can! Let's see a little humility in these posts and less hubris - that would be refreshing.
I hope things do not deteriorate, but not one of us can call this, the situation could VERY WELL get out of hand, it will not take so very much when the precarious nature of what is at stake is fully realized.

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I agree, of course it can get out of hand. They are playing with fire and it can even lead to a hot war with US/Nato on one side and Russia on the other. Many posts you refer to were just about the plan/intent or reason for the military ramping up which I would crystallize into two separate ones (see my post and Malisa's):

1. Driving a (even wider) wedge between Russia and Europe by making Russia the ultimate threat (even bigger than during Cold War times) for the 'rest' of Europe
2. Supporting the Ukrainian army against the Donbass freedom fighters to win the war by supplying heavy weaponry and tech

But yes, you are reight, these crazy 'plans' or 'intentions' can get out of control and is VERY dangerous. No doubt. We need to hold our breath here.

https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/sta...765945344?s=20

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/st...042711552?s=20

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...631932418?s=20

An interesting snippet of strategic analysis from General Jack Keane. When asked when Russia might possibly invade Ukraine, his answer was between 20 February and the middle of March.

That's because round about mid-March the frozen winter ground will begin to thaw, and moving heavy military vehicles into Ukraine is a lot easier when the ground is solid. But before that, Putin will be attending the Chinese Winter Olympics, and so he'd wait till that was over before launching any offensive.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2gvv-xi7l64

All I read here was "Kill all Americans" even the good and smart ones... innocent or not.

All I can say is WOW

(sorry I edited it and cut off the original post.. this is the link)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1477735

Why do you think they call it a 'theatre of war'?

Instigating a war is the last gasp of an incompetent, ineffective, and useless administration.
Anyone who fails to get in line can be pilloried as unAmerican.

Bah, humbug.

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Posted by XelNaga

Hi Friends,

With all respect to all you good people there, and I know that there are a lot of good and smart people in USA, but I have to say this: USA is the most evil entity in the world today, and all of us would have much better lives if USA vanished from the face of the Earth.

I'm one of those people, and I live in one of those countries, who have directly and indirectly suffered from the evil deeds of USA and NATO.

The biggest problem that I see concerning USA is that the huge percentage of population is completely clueless about the rest of the world, and are totally brainwashed by MSM and blinded by politicians.

That is why USA government is doing all the evil deeds with support from their own people, ignorant people who could stop those evill deeds from happening.

When I see them saying "thank you for your service" to soldiers who are going aroung the world, causing trouble and killing innocent people and children, it's crazy.

Kind regards..

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XelNaga,

I read this and then I reread it so that I could appreciate every word you are saying. I am a resident of the US and have been my entire life. What you are saying is so full of truth. I will defend nothing about the government of this country, nor will I defend myself in the pleasant malaise of my life as a citizen of the US, much of it believing to some degree the rhetoric and lies I have been spoon fed on one hand, while witnessing the devastation and damage of family members that went to senseless wars for senseless reasons and suffered their lifetimes for for the lies of psychopaths. I look at the outcome of it and we now have generations of varying degrees of entitlement, still believing we are "the good guys"

I just want to acknowledge my own part in perpetuating the lie and self deception.