Stepping out of the shadows, no triggers here

Hello, many of you might know me, or of me, likewise many will have no clue. That is fine, I'm not here to push any agenda simply to relate a few things that I believe should be related at this moment in time. I deliberately kept a low profile for many years, watching and waiting, my 'thing' was and still is Disclosure. I backed out completely, retired from the so called 'Ufo Scene' back in 2015 as I became more and more disillusioned with the direction 'ufology' was taking. It seemed to me that wild fantasy driven tales were the order of the day and that these were embraced more and more deeply by certain sections of the so called alternative community.

To an old veteran of over 50 years, hands on, this saddened me and at times sickened me. I realised this was drawing good people away from the serious study of the subject and indeed cast ridicule on Ufology in general. Those that know me or of me will recall the global disclosures I made in 1994 to 2000. Much of those disclosures were at the time lambasted and ridiculed by even the ufo community, but I did not give up, I knew people needed to know and shouldered the abuse hoping people would in time wake up and realise that the data I was disclosing was fact.

The past lets say, ten years have indeed proven my disclosures as fact, from many diverse individuals globally in many different books, interviews, tv shows etc. Among these were the grey clones, the man made, military made small greys used for purposes of staged abductions and as far as Dr Greer is concerned, a possible false flag alien invasion. Recall, I and I alone in the wilderness shouted aloud these beings were being manufactured over 25 years ago. This one element alone cost me dearly by disclosing this. NO ONE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY. Along came Dr Greer during the mid 2000s, and more detailed from 2009, that HE and HE ALONE brought these beings into the public domain and ONLY HE and HIS TEAM had full details about them, where they are made etc etc and for what purpose.
Just recently Project Camelot did an interview with someone whom also was talking matter of factly re these grey clones.

Other aspects of my disclosures was the now fully accepted as being matter of fact, is 'The Survey' or better known as its official designation, Project Oaktree. I will not go into this now but it was again ridiculed in the 90's but a number of serious researchers now admit to its existence and refers to it within their own research.

I warned people about Dugway in Utah, its workings its hidden secrets etc and now of course researchers regard it as something they stumbled upon and call it the new Area 51. I detailed Manzano, now there is a place to look deeply into, sorry no clues here, did that many years ago.
There are many instances of my disclosures, once ridiculed now fully accepted within the community, most do not know or care whom brought these into the public domain at great personal cost. That is life I guess, I can live with that, I just shake my head and sigh, look at my battle scars and move on.

Make whatever comments you wish, its still, JUST, a free World, positive or negative, like assholes we all have opinions and are entitled to them. If anyone is interested I can supply the pdf link to my disclosures, sure they are 'old hat' now but there are still a few gems in there worthy of a looksie. My email is ok with me to give out, drop me a line if you want the link: maninblackuk@hotmail.com

Thankyou for your time and patience listening to this old guy, Barry

UPDATE 22nd Nov. Thankyou for all the email requests for PDF link, I will respond ASAP, thankyou for your patience, Barry

Welcome back SPIRIT WOLF

I wonder if you have any answer to the following question: were you aligned or implanted with the grey beings biological material at some point in your life so you were also “allowed” to see them and their activity in life ?

I’ve noticed that many of our friends from the old experienced group literally disappeared or fell seriously ill, usually after being charmed by the mystery of ET matters trying to persuade yourself for more information.
That made me think it’s unwise to dig too deep into something we are not entitled to understand, at least not on your level of experience.

My own alliances come from different kind of entities who never cause harm to my friends but are protective of humanity.

Another question: the “grey alliance” seems to operate all over the world but have special areas of influence, could you please reiterate their true domains ( as opposite to folk tales of ufology and social media)?

When I was in the UK (2019) my friends there repeatedly told me that “I have great way with words” as opposed to the influence of the “greys” who in essence and effort to prevent errors fail to communicate .
Which way do these entities communicate with humans, are they capable of doing so in human language ?


Gracias , thanks

No name calling please


Agape

I did a quick search of your post and couldn't find any PDF's.

Any tips where to find the PDF's?

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Barry a.k.a SPIRIT WOLF wrote:

If anyone is interested I can supply the pdf link to my disclosures, sure they are 'old hat' now but there are still a few gems in there worthy of a looksie. My email is ok with me to give out, drop me a line if you want the link: maninblackuk@hotmail.com

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I will not go into this now but it was again ridiculed in the 90's but a number of serious researchers now admit to its existence and refers to it within their own research.

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I understand why some would stay in the shadows. Every case I can think of except the recent military footage it seems that each case was ridiculed and attacked. Even my favorite, the famous Turkey footage. Another excellent enounter with video case from Carlos Diaz. He met a mysterious man on the road in the dark after his sighting on the forest road. I always wondered about that man because he knew Carlos was in the forest and he also knew information about the ETs. This person was in the know for sure but we have no more knowledge as he kept private.
Another case that Dr Nolan the geneticist from Standford mentioned to me on a visit about a retired doctor living near the Sierra Mts that he met and was having personal contact but wished to keep private. The famous Italian friendship case was public for many years and many of the people that had ongoing contact went silent over time.
I have had my own personal sightings and of course had my share of ridicule & attacks.
In closing it's really nice that you will step out of the shadows to share with others as it takes courage and wish you the best...

EDIT Mistake made in trying to reply to earlier post to Agape

Many thanks , please no stress, no rush, no worries.
The time is on our side in this case and whether we are actually able to understand more depends on your patience. So thanks ahead if any of my questions are actually answerable.

Also, one of the links to the old version of Voice Files abbreviated version ( published by SPIRIT WOLF in 2005)

https://en.calameo.com/read/00289121838346e1b9e31

Short resume by Geraldo Calezzato:

https://www.scribd.com/document/260929344/Barry-King


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It is very nice to hear from you, I understand the sense of frustration when insights and information you have been aware of for absolute ages suddenly comes into vogue, driven by someone else and they of course become famous and respected. I always think it is like what the old academics used to say: the work is the reward! Every time someone gains a little more of the puzzle this throws light in the darkness, it adds to our collective understanding, regardless of where it comes from. Thank you for your efforts, and know that you are appreciated - thanks for being here.

Just a quick note, as mentioned above I will reply with links to all emails ASAP. Those that already know of and are familiar with the original disclosures, they were spread over time, between 1994 and terminated in December of 2000, with reasons already given. The files were released in a 'trail of crumbs' over many issues totalling some 600+ A4 pages, so the 'gems' were given out over a long period, safer to do so I was advised.

Also FYI there is a period of my life, my timeline which remains secret, I can offer no comment or elaborate on this. Those that know me well will fully understand and I hope they will keep that knowledge to themselves, my continuing safety depends on that as I'm sure no one wants me to be compromised or endangered in any way. (do not worry its not as dark as it may sound, just important to keep out of ears for now).

Agape every time I try to directly reply to your posts I receive an error, hope its just a glitch. To everyone here, many thanks for the kind words and support you have thus shown me, its much appreciated, Barry

I had to detach from many things in my life, people, ideas of family, places, friends, even countries, ideas of right and wrong, sometimes because it was the only way not to die. At the lowest points of “disclosure” there were always some who recommended or demanded that I detach from myself, from facts and substitute some other persona of their preference in that place :)
I found the mean calling me naughty, those of desire calling me wonderful and the angry calling me their hate.
As transparent and empty of those things I’ve ever been, the fear they induced in me “in the name of humanity” surrounds me and haunts me till I’m humanly alive.

Eagles soar above all our wars, their eyes watchful, not losing the memory of past.

The time is on your watch they say after all, your debts have been payed and lessons taken.

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Agape every time I try to directly reply to your posts I receive an error, hope its just a glitch. To everyone here, many thanks for the kind words and support you have thus shown me, its much appreciated, Barry

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Before I reply to Agape as kindly assisted by Running Deer I will mention this: I am grateful for the thus far received emails requesting the links to my original files, and likewise accept I'm going to receive some hostility and trolling, I'm used to that over the years. All I can say is IF you have to troll kindly have the decency to do so openly here on the forum, not that you will of course. I'm fully open here, fully transparent, always have been.

There are many current researchers that I admire and respect for the work they do, I will not mention all but among them are Richard Dolan, Bill, Kerry, Miles, Randy Maugans (I thank him for giving me a platform with a couple of radio interviews), Mel Fabregas of Veritas, I especially thank him for the 4 hour phone interview we has in March of 2010 which was featured on his platform over the course of two weekends, parts 1 and 2 each weekend. That I can very much recommend listening to, I'm told by many whom listened to these that it was like two friends calmly chatting at a bar, friendly calming talk, I discussed in great detail my life from early childhood right thru to my years in Project Oaktree (the survey) and much much more. John Hanson for his extremely interesting book series Haunted Skies, much recommended. He covered my witnessing of the May 12th 1974 CE2/3 event at Barn Hill Chingford Essex.

The above case was included in other books and journals including Jerome Clarke's massive tome The Ufo Book, also in the 1976 US Catalog of physical trace cases by CUFOS Ted Phillips. I sent, at the time, 1974, copies of a detailed report I made together with color photos of the tree top damage to BUFORA, CUFOS and the MOD in London. This was one of the strangest events in my life, a very close structured object which damaged the tops of the trees it was hovering above, plus the sighting of actual beings. This as said was very close range and to this day remains a mystery as to its origin.

Yes I took a lot of stick at the time and naturally I became wary of even speaking about it. I recall a phone interview one night from someone whom worked for the American 'Midnight' newspaper whom carried the story but as media has a way of sensationalising things, distorting things, they carried the case but the article showed a pic of someone kneeling holding a drawing of the very being I DID witness plus one or two errors regarding my age etc, it was typical I later learned of what the mass media is like, you could not always trust them so I basically folded up within myself and kept away from all and everything for some time.

Thats about all I need say at moment, thankyou again for your time, Barry

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I wonder if you have any answer to the following question: were you aligned or implanted with the grey beings biological material at some point in your life so you were also “allowed” to see them and their activity in life ?

I’ve noticed that many of our friends from the old experienced group literally disappeared or fell seriously ill, usually after being charmed by the mystery of ET matters trying to persuade yourself for more information.
That made me think it’s unwise to dig too deep into something we are not entitled to understand, at least not on your level of experience.

My own alliances come from different kind of entities who never cause harm to my friends but are protective of humanity.

Another question: the “grey alliance” seems to operate all over the world but have special areas of influence, could you please reiterate their true domains ( as opposite to folk tales of ufology and social media)?

When I was in the UK (2019) my friends there repeatedly told me that “I have great way with words” as opposed to the influence of the “greys” who in essence and effort to prevent errors fail to communicate .
Which way do these entities communicate with humans, are they capable of doing so in human language ?


Gracias , thanks

No name calling please


Agape

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Hi Eva, lets hope I have got this right and will be able to respond. You have known me since around 2006/7 so you know me well I hope. Surely you know my status regarding implants, and as you know the answers are YES and YES. I too have noticed that many within the small group we were in during the forum years have become ill, simply disappeared from the ufo scene or have gone off at tangents, I cannot explain why this occurred. I realise you have gone thru a great deal over the past few years, in several countries under strange conditions and situations, I only hope you are safe and well in your current location. The beings whom are varied in origin as you know, can communicate in varying ways including mind to mind, you know this. Anyways, I do wish you well, keep safe, Barry

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Among these were the grey clones, the man made, military made small greys used for purposes of staged abductions and as far as Dr Greer is concerned, a possible false flag alien invasion. Recall, I and I alone in the wilderness shouted aloud these beings were being manufactured over 25 years ago. This one element alone cost me dearly by disclosing this. NO ONE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY.

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Greetings, Sir. I would have taken you very seriously, had I been aware of your work.

One of my earliest memories is a screen memory from kindergarten probably, of a bunch of dolls chasing me through our house at the time on Hamilton Army Airfield in Novato, California. They caught me, and stuck a really long needle in me. I remember waking, arched out of my bed, aching. Over the years, I have come to know that those dolls were very small greys, about a foot to a foot and a half tall.

I have learned as an adult that this base was one of the stops where the Roswell craft was hangered for a while. The region has been rife with UFO and black helicopter sightings in the decades since and the mountain behind the house we lived in on-base, according to some other potential memories, had entries into underground spaces. This would have been in the early 1970s, perhaps 72-74.

Hi Mark, your encounter is very similar to others I have come across over the years, all not surprisingly were connected with a base, a military facility of one sort or another. Although your description re size of these things varies from most but their actions are very similar. Have you any further info regarding that particular airfield? Please reply when convenient, regards, Barry

Attachment 47976 disclosure is coming

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Hi Mark, your encounter is very similar to others I have come across over the years, all not surprisingly were connected with a base, a military facility of one sort or another.

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I have never shared this story here, before, although I have told folks in my life. Typing it out makes it feel more definitive than it has been in my memory. I have a lot of blank spaces in memory as a child and young adult. It took me quite some time in life to understand the nature of my early experiences and to realize that they were actually quite strange, even among other military brats.

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Although your description re size of these things varies from most but their actions are very similar. Have you any further info regarding that particular airfield? Please reply when convenient, regards, Barry

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This is one reason why I have been reticent to share this particular story with folks. Most "small" greys are about 3-4 feet tall or so, from my research and the representations in popular media. Of course I was very small at the time as well, probably about 3-4 feet tall, so the fact that they were about the size of dolls really stood out. The only other person I have ever heard mention greys that little has been Credo Mutwah, in his conversation with David Icke about his own abduction experience in Africa.


The base shut down in 80s, but there has been continued activity. The black helicopter sightings have occurred most recently, in the last 5 years or so, as has a lot of seemingly undercover construction underground, according to some research I did a few years ago. The area is Marin County, California wine country and quite wealthy, these days. Where the base was, there are now what look to be mini-mansions, according to google streetview.

I can remember lying awake at night watching strange lights roam the house, at least from what I could see from my bed. I also remember discounting car headlights, because of the regularity of the light movement. It felt like an entity to me back then, I knew it represented a consciousness of some sort. I don't remember ever being afraid, just of watching it night after night. There is more, but that is peculiar to my experiences and is not about the base itself. Oh, we neighborhood kids didn't roam into the woods too deeply, there was a wall of dense bushes and a fence, but I have the impression/memory of walking in the woods with other children my age and of tunnels with smooth walls.

Searching, right now, I find this quote at the UFO Hunters site:

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Novato, California (United States)
Sighted on Friday 01. August 1958
Reported on Friday 01. August 1958
Shape: Circle | Duration: 01:00:00
Source: MUFON

The time indicated above is approximate. I collected my sister pamela and some of the kids we played with from the family across the street Larry, Dennis and one of the girls either evelyn or joyce Heifner and I took them to the grey base just over the hill from where I lived at 615 Plum St Novato calif. to see the base that was there. At the time i was greatly impressed by the base and was strongly attracted to it. we went to the ratty old grey house that served as one of the entrances to the base and we saw the following sight. a landed smaller UFO was sitting on the ground behind the old house. It was the same type that I and Larry, Dennis Heifner and Steven Laycock explored when we found it empty on the same hill side in another event. At the foot of the ladder of the UFO that was behind the old house were three young human women in bubble hair dos that were kind of huddled together and acting subdued. One of the twin young men that I have mentioned in other postings at the MUFON site was talking to a grey a little ways away from the women. the young man was about 20 years old white dark hair and had an over all Italian look to him and was dressed in dark clothes. the grey was a classic grey. As we watched things from the edge of the surrounding brush in the back of the house I became very concerned for the safety of the women that the young man was selling them in effect to the grey. The man had a big smug grin on his face and was a vicious predator in appearance. Very dangerous. The grey saw us and paniced and said "Look down" so I looked down at the ground. The grey was furious that we were there seeing what was going on. My sister who was younger said "Dont you hurt my brother" She was young but she would have fought for me. the grey said "Go away and stop bothering us" and that is about where my current memory of the event stops. I have selected this event out of many because of the multiple witnesses and the presence of a Landed UFO, other adult abductees, the human like man working with the greys and the presence of the grey. The ufo is as I have described in Postings at MUFON. Round with a dome in the center. tripod landing gear hinged at the edge of the thing, stairs coming down from the center a ring of vents on the out side edge. Tail on the top part.It was the color of the dry grass on the hill at the time. The event establishes the presense of greys and UFOs at the house and the fact that human like beings were working with the greys probably as agents in our society at that early date. It also establishes that abduction were being carried out by the human like beings. at the time I was very concerned for the lives of the young women above. it was the feeling I got at the time that they. were really in danger. i had no doubt in my mind at the time that i was looking at a landed UFO, a space alien (grey) and a human that was an agent for the greys who was very dangerous.

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There are some others listed here, at the UFO Network site, tagged "Novato". Novato also has quite the reputation for the presence of ghosts and entities, with 7 pages of experiences on the GhostsofAmerica site. Sounds like it has a plethora of experiences, kind of like Skinwalker Ranch.

I think, witnessed, seen, experienced people are disappearing because someone wants us to have disappeared , sometimes I wonder it’s both parties, ETs and the fragile panicking humans , the good servants of an Empire ever hoping for promotion,
those that have been trusted information but misunderstood.

Even those trying to disappear from this modern world would find it nearly impossible.

It’s a hue mans world.

Like mantra people keep repeating to themselves reflecting on simple childish looks, like their loud music and forever looping serotonin and adrenaline complex.
Blowing the human like a balloon.

Thought it was about aura, the aurora or to know more but it proved to be mostly about feeding differences , at the end.


Was it one of us who said “safety is an illusion”, I confirm, powerful illusion it is.

Well, someone always watches the watchers


The t’ooth is out there, Thot too.


From the nameless but outspoken realms where birds also abide


Agape

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Thank you Spirit Wolf!

It can be frustrating trying to get a message out, educate and enlighten people. My feelings on this are that we do reach those people that we need to.

I recall the first time seeing your avatar and name - that was all I needed as that gave me something, although not sure what, and I do not recall your post. Just connecting at a basic level gave me a good feeling.

Thank you!

Your coming back at this time is a decisive moment in my opinion
and at this time, I’m not going to be frightened by the same manipulative agenda we have been subjected to too many times.

Being who I am I am seated on the benevolent side of intelligence, so make no mistake in those circuits.

I’m most certainly not “trolling” your thread.

But I do reflect on the truth and factual events that occurred in our lives in last 5 years or so, events with factual people involved in THIS very disclosure.

I am free to open share my verified CV produced carefully by professor of linguistics in Finland while I was held under threat of life in Uruguay.
There are international witnesses to all that journey and people who contributed to my rescue.
You have been informed about it together with the other people, this wasn’t “preplanned” action when I’d have hours to think about what to do.

You’ve never responded neither any helpful response was ever initiated by the secret DoD team you told us about. I’m not “surprised” by it but wished they were for real.

The same concerns last 5 years of Carolyn Teilman who may not be with us at this time or not but ended up as quadriplegic on wheel chair.

Her and the other people whom you have taken on a trip and promised them “military intelligence dossiers” being sent to you with details of their MILABs,
all those people “incompetently” hanging on your help while they really SHOULDN’T.
are in my memory.

So is my mum who has been innocent witness of all the drag and passed away in 2015, before her time.

There is nothing but truth and love I’ve committed to this field,

you with your highest British programming of Alice of Wonderland calling people “dolly” care to be the messenger of truth albeit extraterrestrial truth ?
Any surprise this venue always turns “big bad” at the end ?



I am not afraid because I’ve done nothing wrong to you and yours and have right to BE a living Being,
not a poster, not an icon, not a cartoon.

The crucial information science and public are looking for in this case is still shrouded in clouds of smog and bad air, as I see it.


How long is it going to take us to get there, to the point of clarity, in your opinion ?

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I think, witnessed, seen, experienced people are disappearing because someone wants us to have disappeared , sometimes I wonder it’s both parties, ETs and the fragile panicking humans , the good servants of an Empire ever hoping for promotion,
those that have been trusted information but misunderstood.

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I'm pretty sure this is something that has been happening on a mass level and I wonder where people are being disappeared to. Surely there is something more than just murder and a lonely grave somewhere desolate. These days, it is so hard to be totally under the radar. I know there are people that I have searched for over the years who I've shared experience with who should by no means be that difficult to find, as they did not, at the times I knew them, live lives away from the mainstream or seem prone to feeling separate from society in any way.

I fear all true answers to that question purely blend with darkness of the night ..how bad is that 🐾

Most frequently they get sucked by the system, medical care, even retirement homes. I know the situation is manifold but anyone with sparkle of intelligence in their brain nowadays struggle not to end up hanging on government systems, for supports or end up in hospitals.
Knowing our common and uncommon vulnerabilities, one small accident is sometimes sufficient to take person down. Welcome to the new age of techno and magic.

We have frequencies to heal and sound weapons. Light and laser weapons. Cars and bikes. What about little insect , virus or a snake onboard.

I’m not short of invoking the protections of the heavens and earth


The recent Covid pandemics and its implications were exactly designed to take as many people down or under as possible.
I’ve opted out of being part of any social system right before it started or I’d have been sucked under by one or another daunting system and social manipulation.

For sure I don’t know how long am I able to survive without supports but as passing is inevitable to all living beings, at least I feel I have this much smarts and right to live and die under free skies, not in captivity or being manhandled for I’ve done nothing wrong to “all those people”.


I reject the necessity of violence when dealing with intelligent beings ,
if truth was ever spoken ,

all the top secrets would be explainable by now, 2021.


Feeling so backwards and behind the lines at the same time


I’ve seen the human motion all around the planet in 2019 was huge, almost unstoppable,
so I’m not sure “who will take whom” at the end of the story.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=xTeI65yrhGw

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Your coming back at this time is a decisive moment in my opinion
and at this time, I’m not going to be frightened by the same manipulative agenda we have been subjected to too many times.

Being who I am I am seated on the benevolent side of intelligence, so make no mistake in those circuits.

I’m most certainly not “trolling” your thread.

But I do reflect on the truth and factual events that occurred in our lives in last 5 years or so, events with factual people involved in THIS very disclosure.

I am free to open share my verified CV produced carefully by professor of linguistics in Finland while I was held under threat of life in Uruguay.
There are international witnesses to all that journey and people who contributed to my rescue.
You have been informed about it together with the other people, this wasn’t “preplanned” action when I’d have hours to think about what to do.

You’ve never responded neither any helpful response was ever initiated by the secret DoD team you told us about. I’m not “surprised” by it but wished they were for real.

The same concerns last 5 years of Carolyn Teilman who may not be with us at this time or not but ended up as quadriplegic on wheel chair.

Her and the other people whom you have taken on a trip and promised them “military intelligence dossiers” being sent to you with details of their MILABs,
all those people “incompetently” hanging on your help while they really SHOULDN’T.
are in my memory.

So is my mum who has been innocent witness of all the drag and passed away in 2015, before her time.

There is nothing but truth and love I’ve committed to this field,

you with your highest British programming of Alice of Wonderland calling people “dolly” care to be the messenger of truth albeit extraterrestrial truth ?
Any surprise this venue always turns “big bad” at the end ?



I am not afraid because I’ve done nothing wrong to you and yours and have right to BE a living Being,
not a poster, not an icon, not a cartoon.

The crucial information science and public are looking for in this case is still shrouded in clouds of smog and bad air, as I see it.


How long is it going to take us to get there, to the point of clarity, in your opinion ?

🙏

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Hi Eva, I hope you are safe and well. The associates in DI were always on hand and as you should recall helped out physically and practically over a period of time, especially with Carolyn. I have had NO contact with associates since 2014 so have no idea as to what they may or may not be doing these days as regards Disclosure within the UK Government. Regarding your incidents in various countries, yes I recall messages from you but was totally unable to assist in any practical way. One of the reasons I stepped away from EVERYTHING was health, in late 2015 I suffered yet another TIA and that one was a doosey!.

We BOTH have suffered at the hands of others including trolls on the net, lucky we both have strong spirits and survived. You need to accept the fact that ALL TIES with British Intel ceased years ago, I'm on my own and have no one watching my back, although there still are influences that try to control and manipulate my disclosures. Clarity? I cannot say, do you mean Disclosure clarity? That is out of my hands.

Yes DI did on several occasions prepare to allow certain files to be passed to certain individuals, again not of my control, Andrew would have been in charge of that. It seems you are blaming me for several ills during the past, I'm sorry if you think that way but you should recall how protocols controlled many things. Not sure what else I can add. Like you my health has taken a battering of late and am very low but that is not for eyes here. Let me end by saying I do very sincerely hope you are safe and well, take good care of yourself, your friend as always, Barry

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I think, witnessed, seen, experienced people are disappearing because someone wants us to have disappeared , sometimes I wonder it’s both parties, ETs and the fragile panicking humans , the good servants of an Empire ever hoping for promotion,
those that have been trusted information but misunderstood.

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I'm pretty sure this is something that has been happening on a mass level and I wonder where people are being disappeared to. Surely there is something more than just murder and a lonely grave somewhere desolate. These days, it is so hard to be totally under the radar. I know there are people that I have searched for over the years who I've shared experience with who should by no means be that difficult to find, as they did not, at the times I knew them, live lives away from the mainstream or seem prone to feeling separate from society in any way.

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I think what Eva is saying is that it does seem certain researchers have either given up the ghost and no longer seem to be as public as they were, or in one or two instances have been forced out of the loop by person or persons unknown, for whatever reason.

Hi Barry glad you are feeling better and back here its good reading what and where you have been.

Have you heard any word from Carolyn. The last I heard she was in pretty bad shape. I know she was trying to reach out to you.

Good to have you back
Carry on my friend
The Axman

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Hi Barry glad you are feeling better and back here its good reading what and where you have been.

Have you heard any word from Carolyn. The last I heard she was in pretty bad shape. I know she was trying to reach out to you.

Good to have you back
Carry on my friend
The Axman

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Hi, No sorry I have lost all contact with everyone since around 2015, I had no idea Carolyn was in bad shape until Eva mentioned it. My total retiement from the scene was due to very ill health and seeing how the net was going down the drain quality wise I decided to stay dark. Are we fighting a losing battle?

You might find Clif High's contributions of interest. His latest here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Sp5wfz7lAtcV

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My total retiement from the scene was due to very ill health and seeing how the net was going down the drain quality wise I decided to stay dark. Are we fighting a losing battle?

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Hi Barry glad you are feeling better and back here its good reading what and where you have been.

Have you heard any word from Carolyn. The last I heard she was in pretty bad shape. I know she was trying to reach out to you.

Good to have you back
Carry on my friend
The Axman

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Hi, No sorry I have lost all contact with everyone since around 2015, I had no idea Carolyn was in bad shape until Eva mentioned it. My total retiement from the scene was due to very ill health and seeing how the net was going down the drain quality wise I decided to stay dark. Are we fighting a losing battle?

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I’m responding with this quote, respectfully because my editing capabilities are limited. Working from 4.8/2.3 inch screen phone for almost 4 years now most of the time as both of my bigger gadgets had to be sold in emergency here in Dharamsala 4 winters ago. So hope you can understand I had whole different range of difficulties than “internet trolls” , all that time and was basically sent around the globe twice.

I completely understand that you had to retire from internet. Hope this time is all better for you and family.

I’m not sure what’s Carolyn’s situation nowadays, if she was with us she would be reading us reminding us not to call her Carolyn.
But rationally speaking, once someone are gone , they should be better remembered with respect rather than a “ghost” of a person.

This is one of her last threads, it is shocking but I beg those capable of rational mind not to fail and fall for delusional minds suggesting that whatever is written on this forum is web mash and conspiracy theory.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...t=Quadriplegic


I’m very lucky to still have all four limbs etc.

Feeling rather reluctant to share facts as the disillusionment that my life did not evolve at computer “on sofa” had seemed to have taken over many researchers to the subject save for the “famous and wealthy”.

Obviously, the Bodhgaya encounter happened in Bodhgaya , India, Bihar in 2002 while I was 6 years here in the monastery, at that time and from my CV it is rather obvious that I’ve studied here actively since 1993 when I was 19 years old.
I pardon Barry the principal researcher in that matter for forgetfulness but the sole reason I could return and was compelled to return to Prague in 2005, aside of the encounter was my mum and her medical situation that was dependant both on me and institution at that time, after two complicated surgeries she might not have been long but my coming back gave us another 10 years of life.

Unfortunate for the events in 2018 in Uruguay and being sent to Finland etc.,
those were fully physical events and times, including interrogation,
none is on the internet.
Except for Gofundme project Pola Churchill kindly started for me at that time, even though we were able to collect but few hundred dollars which was ridiculously little for being under extreme pressure to get out of there at the same time.

There’s very little space for manipulating of what’s happened, has happened.

The people who invited me and had me were well aware and extremely intelligent though themselves in bad legal trouble. The threat orchestrated in me was not caused by me anyhow, neither I’ve called for emergency or collecting funds.

The whole case have only led to further and more absurd forms of injustice such as being picked up in Finland in order to be put to Finnish language course ( straight from Spanish speaking Uruguay which I have adopted rather easily) and being offered fake marriage status in exchange for safety in Finland which would soon end up in isolation ( it is beautiful country but socially isolated especially for non Finnish speaker ), the absurdity still continues on as the people who started it managed to turn most of my friends ( real people ) away, right there from Uruguay.

So I’m back in India since 2019 in my own meditation retreat. There is nothing “exotic” on here or better than what your Tesco has to offer,
far less if you ask but at least people do know me , since 27 years back and do not require internet audit.
In fact some of friends who had seen your interviews in 2012/3 when we were still in contact may remember you as well. They’re all incredible people who don’t forget that easily if not for not being just “fed” most of the time 🙏

Of safety, no I’m not in kindergarden or someone’s else’s ( never lived at other people’s homes) or eating from anyone’s plate.
It’s never been possible with me and is much less possible now since we all are coming of age and have individual biorhythms, requirements, medicines etc.

Monasteries are closed since the epidemics started.


So I’m here in cold, third consecutive winter and almost on zero with any kind of cash.
Have jacket and clothing I travelled with for almost 5 years now and couple sacred relics.

The Finns enumerated this on my CV , so this too was sent to you by email I thought.


I can fly high for sure and keep detaching from this human life for 3 years now, sometimes with resolution but I’m still a “normal person” outwardly who wants to help others , in my teaching capacity and would be happy to do so whenever this situation has chance to normalise.

For now, I’m not conventionally in any sort of safe situation , you may realize by now and despite approaching friends for help,
I’m still working mostly from zero and coffee.

That’s not a joke or an internet meme , unfortunately in our case. You would probably call this “field situation” and 6 years mission on foot.

I’ve taken every risk to find more truth rather than argue about it or defend it even, including risk of my life and any kind of safetiness.


With that please accept apologies if this is somehow “too much” on you, it’s been difficult for all of us no doubts.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=uMUQMSXLlHM


One for all, all for many

Later and for sure, I’m not blaming you for anything particular, neither I’m aware of such and thanks for your friendship,
don’t mention the internet , it seems to have taken this human populace and many minds and lives included those young ones down already.

I’ve never had the time in my life to waste “on the internet” alone unless it would have had any true meaning.

There are the Gauss scale ( rather than sky) differences between any of us, on countless levels.
We may try to “wrestle words”, match threads and postings but the reality and individuality of lives of every person may be entirely different in each case.

I am sorry for mentioning your DoD group, better without specifications but there is no other sense they ever gave out than being part of yourself.

From my own life experience I can only say that anyone with active foot in security would have been able to active anti-terrorist hotline when I was held hostage and strangled etc. The “hotline” does not “do emergency”. They merely attempt to contact the perpetrator and bring the threat level down,
it also takes them rather short time to find the perpetrator in database and whether they’ve been suspected or charged for abuse previously.

This wasn’t a fun situation or one when I could run to embassies - the nearest one was in Buenos Aires, Uruguay has only a consulate with office person coming for couple hours a week.

I am sorry if this is “too much” to say and I’m neither angry or any other epitome to fill in, neither I’m rising my emotion but this is the clarity of situation I have barely mentioned so far.
Discussing it on “internet forum” you are right, may only add more injustice because it being complicated, advanced situation involving many other people with real names, and their children ( minors in this case) who are vulnerable and victims of it all as I were. Only to note they were both present in the house during scenes of extreme violence, repeatedly and also before I ever came around( from the casefile of their parents I’ve personally helped to resolve).

So sorry, I’m citing this for clarity sake , it does not make me well or excited anyhow.

This is the presence of world we are living, the ways we have been taken to,
often in exchange for bits of knowing and awakening more but generally, not more than that.

It’s an acknowledgement of recent facts, Life, between us, rather than case of special revelation about something mysterious : which it could have been,
easily I guess if I did not have mind of my own.

I wish for everyone the same if you ask, to be able to come out with their truths and situations with clarity, honesty and reality sense and be heard and respected by the collective or those who have the capacity to understand.

What I don’t like is exactly what you have pointed out, this often being but vane effort, literary venue and word game for those of little minds.


I will always respect you for your knowledge and insight and remember all the precious moments we shared. Sorry for being exhausted and not a posting genius.


With my “truth sense” it’s not too surprising some want me to disappear asap :) but surviving such a curse is nearly impossible in the society of today and feeling it would be civilised.

It would have to be “the Czechs” to pardon my impunity if it was one of theirs.
As they always follow only those with influence and money and turn away rapidly when someone is in trouble, danger or surrounded by black ops.
Great heroes, aren’t they.
We have to be “happy” that they’ve all learned to read and write. Even with errors. They can also translate or google translate foreign news, even forums.
So proud of it all really but not much better than “my Tibetans” really.


This is the world we are living 😢

The world casting endless doubts on anyone with difference.


Never aimed to hurt you or anyone else, never will. It’s not in my brain, not in my hands, not in my life, playing people up or harming them.


Please do not understand it otherwise

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Eva, I'm so very very sorry I was unable to help or assist in any way during those horrific times, I can only say I'm sorry, with tears streaming down my face I apologise for not being a good enough friend to try and help you. Forgive me

I’m also very sorry and feel I need to step back from having a go at all those people and events, my “righteous mind” is of no help whatsoever.

It’s just a snippet of what has happened and they have had good idea on “what to do” with me if I ever decide to talk. I was offered to be killed honorifically ( in tradition of Japanese samurais ) which I did not accept, then there was the idea that I will turn soon desperate enough to “cancel myself” ( to be little softer here), it too did not work out,
I’m usually happy on my own and unless people start forcing me to their ways and manners.

This being public forum so all I’ve shared is more like a shame , shame of absence ..
of true friends or perhaps my ET family coming down for us on time.

When humans declare shame on something/somebody the whole motion of the society and its consciousness unfortunately usually follow the impulse.

Like you I had “enough” of it by 2015/16, more after seeing the way my mum was taken down at the end of her life and what followed.

On the better side of all that matters, the learning trajectory never stops. All of the above happens on this planet somewhere everyday, it rarely touches the headlines till it’s over, decent people do not come close to such matters, even for doing so we suffer consequences that are very difficult to reverse.

And it all is nothing compared to many people’s live sufferings.


I think. Need to pick the strength in me to walk out of it all , breathe more fresh air.


You’ve never been mentioned by me during those interrogations neither anyone of your group. I do not betray my friends.

Love you as a friend forever so do not despair.


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Even now, the situation seems to rest on me and my ability to die on my free will, on time 🙏 Preferably till the end of the year since I don’t have funds to pay rent or carry on this way.
If India was not spiritually aware and open minded country containing lots more intelligence than it seems, I’d have been detained till now and put through another round of interrogation. Perhaps passed to the Czechs and the same loop would repeat again and again and I’d be talking of all those dirty people’s actions forever.

I don’t know how much worse does everything have to get before it’s over, I don’t know who I was mistaken for and my character , I could have also ended up in the UK under the idea of containing me and work in social care, washing people’s floors and bathrooms.

Talking of stereotypes I guess and society where people’s status and value strictly depend on how much money they have.
It’s the same situation all around, what would I do alone in “Czech Republic” where no one talks to me for years for their own fears of social seclusion ?

Pretend ? Play them an Ode for Joy ? Just for a moment like they go to friendly visits ?

They are just another human beings, not closer to me than anyone else, far more careful in fact.

It’s the same like Finland, like the UK, like the rest of Europe, like America today. I’m sorry if some people don’t like to hear about it but it’s exactly the same wherever you go. Comfy safe lives for those who fit in, abundance of products and supermarkets overflowing. For decades now, for most of my life anyway.
Generations old philosophical disputes are everywhere the same as well, those at the beginning of lives are fighting hard to get out of the clutches of those “problems”.

Things we ever trusted in do not really exist either way. NO ONE will take care of you anywhere if you are injured, if you faint on the street or just escaped the world disaster.


I felt little safer till some time ago because I could detach from the bad minds.

Even “ET disclosure” is more about bad human minds these days, not ETs, if ETs then it has to be bad ETs.

I can’t even fathom why people come to the disclosure arena only to badmouth other people. No matter who they name, no matter what interview.

I don’t understand the emotional accent alternative media is giving to the topic and any topic. As if they were all drunk or on some kind of excitement drugs ?

“Decent” forever escapes me here, it’s all about “great” unless it goes down to “nice”.

Did they all take the Alex Jones path ?

Life seems to be of value to all those people only if it feels “great and exciting”. More exciting than yesterday..
then drinking tons of supplements and quantum drops to keep the tenure up and flowing.

The music too is getting louder, more light flashes everywhere.

So happy it is December, one of the more peaceful months.

I admit I am short of human emotional “attenuation” or understanding much of it. It’s a new norm . Alcohol seems to be new norm too.
People are not able to pay attention to each other for longer than a moment.

That’s before they return frantically clicking their cell phones 😅

I can’t imagine going anywhere close to those people.

Should not mention how much the noise hurts my brain. They seem to talk most of the time. My brain says it’s not all over. Guess it’s just asking for food.

I could be on hospital bed now instead and it would give the same meaning but I’d hate myself for being there.

Maybe in China, China actually looks like optimistic country these days :) Perhaps they are still kind ..

“Never give up. There has to be intelligent life on that planet”

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I fear all true answers to that question purely blend with darkness of the night ..how bad is that?

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That can obviously be pretty bad. I suppose it is my knowing that everything has meaning and that even within the darkness and, sometimes, especially within the darkness, there is a hidden light that is only apparent to those who can sense it through, often, some supernal sense of knowing. I've noticed in my life how the most terrible events can lead to wonderous outcomes and, even though it is painful to state it thusly, the balance only occurs within the opposition of forces.

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Most frequently they get sucked by the system, medical care, even retirement homes. I know the situation is manifold but anyone with sparkle of intelligence in their brain nowadays struggle not to end up hanging on government systems, for supports or end up in hospitals.

Knowing our common and uncommon vulnerabilities, one small accident is sometimes sufficient to take person down. Welcome to the new age of techno and magic.

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And it is magic, isn't it. A magic that is so ubiquitous that it seems like normal life.

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The recent Covid pandemics and its implications were exactly designed to take as many people down or under as possible.
I’ve opted out of being part of any social system right before it started or I’d have been sucked under by one or another daunting system and social manipulation.

For sure I don’t know how long am I able to survive without supports but as passing is inevitable to all living beings, at least I feel I have this much smarts and right to live and die under free skies, not in captivity or being manhandled for I’ve done nothing wrong to “all those people”.

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I'm sure the global numbers are much worse, but since one country is easier to find relatively accurate numbers for, the United States population is 333,781,277. Covid deaths, 787,064 as of today. 1 out of 424 people in this nation have died of Covid.

If these numbers are accurate, and we know there are many questions about that, then that is a sobering number. And what might this mean globally? There are many here who would dispute them and with good cause, as in, who could trust such a psychopathic system to approximate anything like the truth?

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For sure I don’t know how long am I able to survive without supports but as passing is inevitable to all living beings, at least I feel I have this much smarts and right to live and die under free skies, not in captivity or being manhandled for I’ve done nothing wrong to “all those people”.

I reject the necessity of violence when dealing with intelligent beings ,
if truth was ever spoken ,

all the top secrets would be explainable by now, 2021.

Feeling so backwards and behind the lines at the same time.

I’ve seen the human motion all around the planet in 2019 was huge, almost unstoppable,
so I’m not sure “who will take whom” at the end of the story.

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I've come to understand the true meaning of the relativity of truth in these strange, crazy days. How so many different experiences and perspectives can indeed be truth to those who experience and live them, and how they are not truth to so many others. The waves of truth that have overwhelmed the "truth" community like viruses themselves, that have overwhelmed friendships and allyships, that have come and gone like lightning on a summer night, leaving behind only the scent of ozone and the smell of charred flesh as relationships and knowings have passed into obscurity.

Who knows what is coming? I have come moreso to rely upon my inner senses of truth than any external barometer although I do keep up with the sources that have also decried the seeming siren call of groupthink no matter what side of the issues they call themselves belonging to. Watching, following the dictate of intuition and love leads me where it will and I respond and engage therein and only according to those dictates.

Is it just me but making observations globally since this pandemic took hold, are people becoming less patient, less supporting, less empathic, less tolerant, less considerate. More angry, more aggressive in everyday situations. I have witnessed this within my own observations in public, on the roads, in shops etc. What is happening to us? What is going wrong on such a large scale? Or maybe it is just me!

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Is it just me but making observations globally since this pandemic took hold, are people becoming less patient, less supporting, less empathic, less tolerant, less considerate. More angry, more aggressive in everyday situations. I have witnessed this within my own observations in public, on the roads, in shops etc. What is happening to us? What is going wrong on such a large scale? Or maybe it is just me!

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I think it’s this year, this time that people have got enough of dealing with the situation and so tired of it.

It’s almost 2 years now since the pandemics started in Wuhan and lockdowns and other measures were announced. As I’ve said before it is almost the same everywhere depending on social make up but the whole “agenda of Covid 19” tired souls of many people , right after taking lives and families.

Last year at this time we hoped it will be over “by the end of the year”.

This year people hoped “it will be definitely over and done with” by the end of this year.

Children had two years of mostly online education now : that’s a good thing for many children and parents in India because it keeps families together.
It puts extra demand for cell phones on the parents, schools still take fees and taxes as when classes were physical , shamefully so and sometimes more.

After the recent omicron variant was announced, borders came to be closed again.

So yes the pandemics is taking toll on the society in long term, it’s affecting private and small businesses the most while giving the most open hand and leverage to mega companies and syndicates who can shield themselves very well and profit from internet sales and markets.

As Mark said above, we don’t know ( globally speaking ) the toll and extend of damages till it lasts. Pictures painted by the media are not always accurate.

So no people aren’t either angry or unkind but they’re certainly more frustrated and losing patience with the situation.

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I fear all true answers to that question purely blend with darkness of the night ..how bad is that?

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That can obviously be pretty bad. I suppose it is my knowing that everything has meaning and that even within the darkness and, sometimes, especially within the darkness, there is a hidden light that is only apparent to those who can sense it through, often, some supernal sense of knowing. I've noticed in my life how the most terrible events can lead to wonderous outcomes and, even though it is painful to state it thusly, the balance only occurs within the opposition of forces.

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Posted by Agape

Most frequently they get sucked by the system, medical care, even retirement homes. I know the situation is manifold but anyone with sparkle of intelligence in their brain nowadays struggle not to end up hanging on government systems, for supports or end up in hospitals.

Knowing our common and uncommon vulnerabilities, one small accident is sometimes sufficient to take person down. Welcome to the new age of techno and magic.

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And it is magic, isn't it. A magic that is so ubiquitous that it seems like normal life.

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Posted by Agape

The recent Covid pandemics and its implications were exactly designed to take as many people down or under as possible.
I’ve opted out of being part of any social system right before it started or I’d have been sucked under by one or another daunting system and social manipulation.

For sure I don’t know how long am I able to survive without supports but as passing is inevitable to all living beings, at least I feel I have this much smarts and right to live and die under free skies, not in captivity or being manhandled for I’ve done nothing wrong to “all those people”.

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I'm sure the global numbers are much worse, but since one country is easier to find relatively accurate numbers for, the United States population is 333,781,277. Covid deaths, 787,064 as of today. 1 out of 424 people in this nation have died of Covid.

If these numbers are accurate, and we know there are many questions about that, then that is a sobering number. And what might this mean globally? There are many here who would dispute them and with good cause, as in, who could trust such a psychopathic system to approximate anything like the truth?

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Posted by Agape

For sure I don’t know how long am I able to survive without supports but as passing is inevitable to all living beings, at least I feel I have this much smarts and right to live and die under free skies, not in captivity or being manhandled for I’ve done nothing wrong to “all those people”.

I reject the necessity of violence when dealing with intelligent beings ,
if truth was ever spoken ,

all the top secrets would be explainable by now, 2021.

Feeling so backwards and behind the lines at the same time.

I’ve seen the human motion all around the planet in 2019 was huge, almost unstoppable,
so I’m not sure “who will take whom” at the end of the story.

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I've come to understand the true meaning of the relativity of truth in these strange, crazy days. How so many different experiences and perspectives can indeed be truth to those who experience and live them, and how they are not truth to so many others. The waves of truth that have overwhelmed the "truth" community like viruses themselves, that have overwhelmed friendships and allyships, that have come and gone like lightning on a summer night, leaving behind only the scent of ozone and the smell of charred flesh as relationships and knowings have passed into obscurity.

Who knows what is coming? I have come moreso to rely upon my inner senses of truth than any external barometer although I do keep up with the sources that have also decried the seeming siren call of groupthink no matter what side of the issues they call themselves belonging to. Watching, following the dictate of intuition and love leads me where it will and I respond and engage therein and only according to those dictates.

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We float in Universe waved by strong and subtle forces. How tiny we are in size compared to the forces that create time and space, births of Suns and their death and transformations.
How vulnerable we are, when temperatures drop down or rise too high,
yet we are part of the force and it is part of us.

To those with opened minds, we live in deeper dream we dream and a sea of possibilities.

Through all these difficult times and challenges I know the question:
“Who knows and what comes next ?”

No one can estimate full implications of the current epidemics though we all hope it will expire on its own , unless we keep fueling it anyway.

One important thing to realise no matter what the situation looks like, good or bad depend on the observer and the observation point , even if it starts looking worse or difficult to move or shows signs of abating and people start acting crazy as if it never happened again, we create our future in our minds.

Day by day, moment by moment.

The power of our mind is more than an imagination. It’s also an powerful engine and intelligence that has once created the cosmos.
In Vedas they compare this intelligence to the head of Brahma.

We say “I’m That”. “Thou art That”.

The pure creative power of the Universe is also the power of our minds.

It’s important to realize just that for a moment and detach from the idea that it’s all bad, bad or just beyond redemption and keep giving power to the Life side.

I’ve personally succeeded in doing just that for long times in order to repel and dispel the powers of darkness , it requires some practise. With practice , mind naturally returns to pure state of active intelligence which is a flow.

When I get hit by strong signal, emotion, whatever input 🙃
I still get little wobbly to be honest.

But I’m here listening to the voices of the village and next few in distance everyday, wedding music at times and Bob Marley party and the rest and mostly, lots of birds every morning ,
forgot to mention the bulldozer .

The true state of consciousness is non-locality. It’s uncertainty as principle we rely on before we are in the state of knowing.

The depth of the Universe and hunters of human civilisation do use dark powers sometimes unknowingly against seers and watchers
in order to maintain Balance.


Thus , no one knows whence do we stand in front of the order ( of things )



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With respect and apologies to Barry; stepping out now. There’s no way I wished to invade his thread, not to think of plagiarising his disclosures and discussions with more worthy people.

My situation may be purely personal but at least it’s natural with me. More obviously I wouldn’t have the strength to fight anything, and anyone atm and we aren’t in Anglo-Saxon territory , we don’t fight or compete here in India, the rest does not matter too much.

I come to regret that I’ve ever stepped to the field of “disclosure” but back in 2005/6 I really really could not know that.

So many thanks for supporting me and the truth of human origins. Truth will never die or harm anyone.

If things improve for me in any meaningful way, see you all later 🌟

Or send an email. It’s little bit too difficult situation for me to cope with and feel human. I don’t trust anyone here can understand what’s happened and looking to the shiny screen for it being just a game/play/drama scene would only lead to more disaster on my side.

Thanks Barry , Kari Lynn and the rest, in memoriam. Morituri Te Salutant


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With respect and apologies to Barry; stepping out now. There’s no way I wished to invade his thread, not to think of plagiarising his disclosures and discussions with more worthy people.

My situation may be purely personal but at least it’s natural with me. More obviously I wouldn’t have the strength to fight anything, and anyone atm and we aren’t in Anglo-Saxon territory , we don’t fight or compete here in India, the rest does not matter too much.

I come to regret that I’ve ever stepped to the field of “disclosure” but back in 2005/6 I really really could not know that.

So many thanks for supporting me and the truth of human origins. Truth will never die or harm anyone.

If things improve for me in any meaningful way, see you all later 🌟

Or send an email. It’s little bit too difficult situation for me to cope with and feel human. I don’t trust anyone here can understand what’s happened and looking to the shiny screen for it being just a game/play/drama scene would only lead to more disaster on my side.

Thanks Barry , Kari Lynn and the rest, in memoriam. Morituri Te Salutant


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Eva, no worries, you are not treading on toes and have every right to be here and post. some might think what the hell are we doing talking about ourselves and our lives, how we have been affected and impacted by events which include disclosure, directly and indirectly. Disclosure in a covert way IS happening but it will not fully meet peoples expectations, in fact full disclosure cannot in any fashion be allowed by the powers that be, only a watered down version will trickle into the public domain.

Yes You hit the nail on the head Barry it will be nothing like what we think it should be (disclosures) .

Something I have noticed since going down the rabbit hole in 2001 is there does not seem to be to many people like yourself like Eva Like Carolyn that are coming out with some type of experience anymore.
there are a couple but nothing like it was. A lot of people who think they can make a buck it seems easy to see through them these days also.
You get some here and there Mark on this thread is a good example. Maybe he felt at ease now to share his experience or maybe he could answer this question in the future here.

Yes I have also noticed the populace is very edgy and fast to anger. I think we might be having a little help with this behind the scenes also not sure how but it seems like it to me.

Just my 2 cents

The Axman