I am going to start posting this meme I made on various sites. Maybe those who agree with me can also do and it will get carried along.
for the record, I was an anti war liberal democrat all my life when it meant something up to the last election. Whatever we are seeing is not the peace loving tolerant democratic party.
By sheer common sense reality I have been pushed to what people now call a right wing person, an extremest. What a joke. A MAGA person. Really? and what does maga mean?
Make America Great Again... can u imagine that is now couched as a disgusting stance?
This is what brainwashing and media control can do to once sane people.
Everything today is upside down . We have a chance of righting the ship and I call on all people regardless of party affiliation and prior ties to come together and change course.
29th October 2022 17:41
araucaria
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Reds are Republicans in the US, everywhere else they are Socialo-Communists! And the blues are the conservatives/royalists. Upside down sounds about right.
29th October 2022 17:51
Bill Ryan
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
"Right wing" and "Left wing" barely mean anything any more. It's absolutely not a straight-line left-right spectrum, not at all.
There are far more nuances and variables, and it's at least 2-Dimensional (i.e. a quadrant graph), and maybe even 3D. It staggers me that this isn't more widely recognized and discussed. See this thread:
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Thank you Doug for this thread and for regularly drawing attention to the elephant of ambiguity in the room ; and thanks to Bill, you brought up a post I’d totally forgotten I’d made. I have been preparing a new thread which comes very close to Doug’s topic, and I may just post it here instead.
Warning to older readers: read no further, here is a thought that will short-circuit your brain.
Donald Trump is a Red under the bed!
29th October 2022 20:26
Mari
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
"Right wing" and "Left wing" barely mean anything any more. It's absolutely not a straight-line left-right spectrum, not at all.
There are far more nuances and variables, and it's at least 2-Dimensional (i.e. a quadrant graph), and maybe even 3D. It staggers me that this isn't more widely recognized and discussed. See this thread:
Couldn't agree more. 'Right/Left' are nothing but labels that they want us to identify with, so we can finger-point and yell 'you're wrong, I'm right!' at others and therefore miss the true manipulative picture.
29th October 2022 20:54
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
We vote with our discernment and our actions (and our money), every day of our lives. And, no surprise, we are getting what we vote for.
We now live in a one party state, that we have all voted into existence.
BREAKING: The Party has decided to re-launch the voting process as a credit score process.
It's the same thing as before, but inverted and backwards.
29th October 2022 21:00
thepainterdoug
Re: Red please
HEy all thanks for responding.
Im referring to the upcoming USA Mid terms that is. thats what Im pre occupied with here in the USA. should have been clearer on Avalon with such an international following
I wanted something very simple. And here in the USA it will be understood as what it is referring to.
red / blue/ left /right etc we need a change!
29th October 2022 21:42
rgray222
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
It used to be that the two parties in the USA took different paths toward the same destination but that is no longer true. The once-great Democrat Party has been hijacked by extreme socialist liberals renaming themselves progressives. By taking these new extreme positions (gender, open border, war, energy etc) and focusing almost entirely on identity politics the Democrat Party has lost touch with the working class and minorities. This new party wants people to feel like victims. They are telling the faithful that they should extract retribution by destroying the country they live in. The theory is to break American society to the point that it must be remade into a socialist society which they feel will be fair and equitable.
The Democrats have been forced to follow the progressive extreme ideology because most of the money is now coming from extremists, ie Soros, Uihlein, Griffin, and King. They must dance the dance of their financial masters.
When the results of the Nov 8th elections start to be dissected the percentage of the Black and Latino vote that goes towards the Republican candidates will absolutely astonish the pundits. The number of liberals that vote Republican will confound and bewilder the party leadership and the media. It will also be a wake-up call for casual democrats. If this election does not force Democrats back onto their rightful track then we can expect the demise of the party. The country can no longer function with one-party rule. This may be the desired result from the globalist and those calling the shots.
30th October 2022 02:05
thepainterdoug
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
rgray222 said / "The Democrats have been forced to follow the progressive extreme ideology because most of the money is now coming from extremists, ie Soros, Uihlein, Griffin, and King. They must dance the dance of their financial masters."
rgray222 , this is true and this is all WEF. That is why regardless of party and past ideals, I am pulling for a red wave in the midterms, and a victory for Putin in a fight for preservation of Russian sovereignty.
If the WEF can do away with Russia, then only the US Constitution is left to dismantle
30th October 2022 06:09
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
A joiner I have never been and that's written in stone, but what the WEF and the British CROWN (using the US Military) have joined up and done to Putin and the pipeline is an all-out NO NO! They obviously want to keep themselves in power even at the cost of Nuclear WWIII which is coming. Biden and his puppeteers need to be stopped NOW. The British Crown must apologize to Putin and Russians and proceed to repair the damage they have caused to the pipeline. The American people must stand up together and DEMAND that the racketeers running Washington retract their evil actions and summarily kick all the Political Criminals who absolutely no longer represent the American People, if they ever did, and reinstate the CONSTITUTION PRONTO! Christian behavior toward our neighbors in the World, would not only be welcomed even by those who don't share those beliefs, and those of our brothers across the seas may one day reciprocate our kindness at a time of great need. We all share the need of warmth and food, rich and poor, humans and animals.
Is this all about money and power and who controls whom? It is time to stop infantile games. Europe needs fuel which Russia needs to sell. HELP THEM TO DO SO. The USA has fuel, but I agree fracking is dangerous to ground water. They have Advanced Alien Power Sources kept hidden from us in order to keep the Bankers and War Machines in control of us. One day very soon, this GAME will come to its inevitable head and blow us all to pieces.
I have read that there are around 35 FREE ENERGY PATENTS which the patent office has refused to grant the inventors. We already have FREE ENERGY DEVICES. USE THEM. The two-bit industries of today will immediately be REPLACED BY new industries making better use of Earth's resources for all humans and investors. Oil magnates, etc., are holding back progress in all areas for humanity, here and in space. You can have this or ultimate extermination which is on the doorstep. CHOOSE!
30th October 2022 06:54
amor
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
The Question is asked, "SHOULD WE BE AFRAID OF CHINA?"
We should be afraid of anyone who would imprison people to remove their organs, with or without painkillers, for money. We should be in terror of those whose education and biology allow them to be categorized as HIVE MINDS and are controlled by overlords who know nothing of love, compassion, etc., but use brute force and all its devices. Would you trust such? Not as far as I could see them. Would you step into a nest of vipers or King Cobras and expect not to be bitten and die?
30th October 2022 13:51
Mike
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Quote:
Posted by Bill Ryan
"Right wing" and "Left wing" barely mean anything any more. It's absolutely not a straight-line left-right spectrum, not at all.
There are far more nuances and variables, and it's at least 2-Dimensional (i.e. a quadrant graph), and maybe even 3D. It staggers me that this isn't more widely recognized and discussed. See this thread:
I use "right" and "left" as a kind of shorthand, for better or worse (Dennis is out there shouting "Worse!":))
When I say left or right, I'm not necessarily talking about people in office, Republicans or Democrats etc. I'm talking about one set of values and another set of values.
Regardless, we risk overgeneralizing and causing confusion no matter what words we choose. I'm sure temperament can be divided up into quite a spectrum, but it really does seem to me like there are two dominant ones, and they can be defined by pretty predictable characteristics. People that believe in open borders tend to be pro choice, pro equity/inclusion/diversity, pro vax, pro climate change, pro gender ideology etc. And then of course there's the flip side to that coin.
I like to believe I'm one of the nuanced thinkers that doesn't quite belong in either camp, though I definitely lean into the conservative side of things (or what's considered the conservative side of things anyway. Then again, I used to think I leaned into the liberal side of things. I don't think I've changed too much really. It's more like the ground has moved beneath my feet. The meaning of "left" and "right" has changed quite a bit over the years and I think that's the main cause of confusion, especially for people who haven't been keeping up with the "culture war" stuff)
31st October 2022 09:35
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
BARACK OBAMA CAN’T CONTROL HIS CROWD AS THEY CHANT FJB
Hope to see you all next weekend in Branson, Missouri Nov 4-5, 2022 at The Reawaken America Tour: https://themelkshow.com/events/
31st October 2022 15:28
T Smith
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Quote:
Posted by thepainterdoug
for the record, I was an anti war liberal democrat all my life when it meant something up to the last election. Whatever we are seeing is not the peace loving tolerant democratic party.
It appears Tulsi Gabbard agrees with you on all fronts. Here she is stumping for Kari Lake
It looks as though the deep state is gearing up for another election-related false flag event in the new ‘swing state’ of Arizona.
Marc Elias, the sleazy Democratic lawyer aligned with Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign as well as several lawsuits aimed at undermining the 2020 election with mass mail-in balloting, has filed a lawsuit against a “patriot” group in the Grand Canyon State, alleging voter intimidation.
According to The Epoch Times, the group Clean Elections USA and its founder, Melody Jennings, were sued last week on behalf of the Arizona Alliance for Retired Americans and Voto Latino. The plaintiffs claim that the defendants are violating federal Voting Rights Act provisions.
“No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for voting or attempting to vote, or intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for urging or aiding any person to vote or attempt to vote,” says the statute in part.
Members of the so-called ‘patriot’ group have been reportedly gathering around ballot drop-off boxes to ensure no funny business takes place like during 2020. Some of the observers are reportedly armed.
Jennings said on social media earlier that people should go to the boxes to act as a “deterrent” against voter fraud that everyone with an IQ over 80 knows took place last time around.
“We must legally deter people from committing voter fraud. The only way we can do this is to monitor those drop box locations with a team of volunteers. That is why we’re reaching out to patriots like yourself who have similar concerns. In short, we need your help!” says the Clean Elections USA website.
A video clip posted by a local reporter shows her talking to a man ‘armed’ with a camera who said he’s with Clean Elections USA. He also refused to answer certain questions before calling an unnamed person, likely for advice on how to answer certain questions.
“The tactics being used by Clean Elections USA aren’t just profoundly dangerous to voters in Arizona, they’re an affront to the fundamental principles of our democracy,” Maria Teresa Kumar, president and CEO of Voto Latino, said in a statement.
Needless to say, the lawsuit seeks a temporary restraining order to prevent members of this alleged group from gathering “within sight of drop boxes,” following or recording voters, or making any visual recording of prospective voters — obviously, so that the cheating can resume where it left off in 2020. The suit also demands that Clean Elections USA be barred from “training, organizing, or directing” people to monitor drop boxes if an order is imposed.
Jennings noted on Truth Social, former President Donald Trump’s social media platform, that the group’s observers should follow the law, meaning, the organization’s intent is legitimate.
“Knowing that we the citizens of the United States are protecting the rule of law is very satisfying,” she said.
The Epoch Times added:
Several voter intimidation complaints have been lodged in Arizona and referred to the U.S. Department of Justice. Attorney General Merrick Garland said Monday that the agency “will not permit voters to be intimidated.”
Maricopa County Sheriff Paul Penzone said that the department has received two suspicious activity criminal reports but that no charges have been filed and the observers have not committed crimes.
“It doesn’t meet the threshold for a crime. This is a free nation. The Second Amendment is as important as the first. So that in and of itself does not constitute a crime,” he told reporters.
Democrats know they are unpopular and cannot win elections on the strength of their ideas and policies. So they have to cheat. And now they are trying to demonize a ‘patriot’ group so that drop boxes are left unattended again.
1st November 2022 13:49
rgray222
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Portland used to be one of the prettiest cities on the planet.
1st November 2022 18:10
atman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Substack article published today by Adam B. Coleman, author of "Black Victim To Black Victor", Op-Ed Writer, Public Speaker and Founder of Wrong Speak Publishing
I Voted Republican for the First Time & Here is Why...
Adam B. Coleman
On Sunday, for the first time in my life, I voted Republican and I have a litany of reasons why.
First, let me make clear that I am not a Republican but an Independent. I am a moderate American voter who wants to vote based on his principles instead of a political party's demands.
However, I was a "vote blue no matter who" kind of moderate Democrat years ago. I don't recognize that Democrat party anymore. The party I used to support stood for liberal values like free speech & now pushes harder and harder for censorship.
If you told me 6 years ago that the official Democrat party position, even echoed by a Democrat President, was that mutilating children is not only acceptable but desirable and if you reject it you're a bigot, I would have thought you were insane. Yet here we are.
When I was a Democrat, we knew that abortion was the ending of life but it was a matter of giving someone the uncomfortable choice to do so and not wanting the government to interfere. We didn't use language like "clump of cells"; we knew exactly what it was.
Today, the pro-choice element of being on the left has gone into an extreme area of being pro-abortion. Mainstream Democrats like Stacey Abrams speak of abortion in such a disgustingly flippant manner. I can't support that worldview at all.
When parents showed up at school board meetings because perversion was appearing in their children's school classrooms and libraries, the Democrats were doing everything possible to label concerned parents as bigots for doing exactly what a parent is supposed to do.
It was with Democrat influence to even call these people Domestic Terrorists. Why? Because they don't want highly sexual books accessible to their children? When did sexualizing children become a political position? Why have Democrats made this the hill to die on?
You even have Democrat State Senator Tiara Mack as the voice advocating for teaching the pleasures of masturbation & sex to children in classrooms. Why?
Another huge matter to me was the management of all things COVID-related. There was one party that became social tyrants to enforce questionable policies regardless if they made sense or not and they used law enforcement to carry out arbitrary mandates.
The Democrats tried using OSHA to force people like myself to get the jab or be highly inconvenienced with constant testing at my job. I watched one party influence corporations to "do their part" in vaccinating people, resulting in my wife getting jabbed when she didn't want to.
I was mostly in the middle about vaccines by wanting to play wait and see with it but fine if people wanted the option to get the vaccine.
However, authoritarian decision-making to force me to get vaccinated for something that has no long-term testing or else lose my job? No.
But these are the same people who said pre-November 2020 election that they would "never trust a vaccine started by the Trump administration". Mainstream Democrats said this, out loud. Weeks after Biden's win, suddenly we all need them to "end the spread".
When in reality, all of these politicians were bought & paid for by BigPharma. The American people were sold out to corporate lobbyists and the largest clinical trials ensued. If you didn't participate, you'd lose your job, your business & even custody of your children.
I lost someone I cared about when they died fighting blood clots two weeks after getting the booster. There are countless stories of lost loved ones due to the reckless decision-making by our politicians, with strong endorsement from Democrats.
I typically tell people they should vote for something instead of against something but in this case I'm doing both. I voted for the party that has been on the right side of the most basic things we used to all agree on: we shouldn't sexualize or mutilate children.
Family is incredibly important to me and it shouldn't be a partisan position to feel this way. Family is the bedrock of our society & anyone who is trying to protect our children, I support them. From what I can see, the Democrats have become the anti-natal party.
The Democrats were the main perpetrators of lockdown tyranny and COVID propaganda to smear anyone who even asked a question about what was going on around us. Some even laughed at the deaths of their detractors which I find absolutely disgusting. No one should condone this.
The Republicans aren't perfect by any means but this should show you how terrible my old party has become. They've shown themselves to be authoritarian elitists who were willing to use all apparatuses to force you to comply with their nonsense.
They would shut your business down in an instant and label your job as being "non-essential" but say that Walmart, Costco, and Target can have hundreds of people inside it at a time. Paying our bills & feeding our children is essential, I don't care what a politician says.
I would love to have two common-sense, viable political parties to fight over but from my view, there is only one that is even remotely close to common sense. There is only one that isn't enforcing perversion on our children. I have no choice but to vote for them.
Lastly, the people who want to infer that me being black, I shouldn't vote for Republicans: spare me.
The Democrats are using black politicians to push some of these anti-natal & pro-sexualizing children rhetoric onto black people for a reason.
I will continue to vote Republican until every pro-lockdown Democrat is out of office. I will continue to vote Republican until every pro-perversion Democrat is out of office.
That is the only way the Democrats can get rid of the stench.
1st November 2022 22:34
ExomatrixTV
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
#WalkAway is presenting a live debate called "The Black American Culture War Showdown" in Washington at 6 p.m. ET on Oct. 15. NTD will livestream the debate. Access the livestream on this page, and also at EpochTV. The event features three black left-wing experts debating three black right-wing experts on various issues. Left-wing expert panel: Robert Patillo, M. Reese Everson, and Rashaad Singleton Right-wing expert panel: Shemeka Michelle, Delano Squires, and Melik Abdul Topics: Critical race theory Black Lives Matter Criminal justice reform White supremacy Racism Systemic oppression Immigration Economy Trump Biden and more ...
"I am almost 70 yrs old and have waited for years dreaming of the day that Republicans would grow a set of balls and backbones. I am finally seeing that dream come true with people like Kari Lake and others running this cycle. The days of Republicans falling into the fetal position from Democrat attacks appears to be less often with the new breed of Republicans, thanks to DJT".
2nd November 2022 00:41
ExomatrixTV
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Democratic Leaders Are Hostile Towards People of Faith:
God, war, cancel culture, freedom, democracy, and much more covered in my interview with Russell Brand. Here is a short clip I know you’ll find interesting. Aloha.
"I am an Atheist and I voted for you twice. Religion or the lack of it thereof should not interfere with common sense. Honesty, integrity, consistency, ethics and awareness should guide a leader".
Are The Democrats Warmongers? With Guest Tulsi Gabbard - #022 - Stay Free with Russell Brand:
1:44 Boomers are actual Classical Liberals ... the original Freedom Loving - Anti War - Anti Corporatism - Anti Censorship and having no issues with agree to disagree without being easy triggered snowflakes. Plus still having commons sense and sovereign intelligence that is beyond pushed narratives.
3rd November 2022 01:56
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Federal judge rules patriots have every right to monitor ballot boxes in Arizona to prevent repeat of 2020 election theft
Tuesday, November 01, 2022 by: JD Heyes
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Quote:
Posted by rgray222
By taking these new extreme positions (gender, open border, war, energy etc) and focusing almost entirely on identity politics the Democrat Party has lost touch with the working class and minorities.[/B].
This is very true. The problem is, the extreme pressure being placed upon black and brown folks, who are generally very spiritual and socially conservative, by the progressives has no counter on the opposite side. There is no place for them to go because the far Right has been demonized as racist and genocidal in the media, but is also problematic for many minorities in their own life experience. It is all well and good to say it is all media and politics, but when minorities go out into the nation and their actual experience is of hate and intolerance, it is hard to convince them otherwise. For every Kanye West, Clarence Thomas and Candace Owens, there are millions of black people with direct, lived experience that Trump and his followers are their enemies.
They don't want to follow the far Left, but they have no place else to go.
Quote:
Posted by rgray222
When the results of the Nov 8th elections start to be dissected the percentage of the Black and Latino vote that goes towards the Republican candidates will absolutely astonish the pundits. The number of liberals that vote Republican will confound and bewilder the party leadership and the media. It will also be a wake-up call for casual democrats. If this election does not force Democrats back onto their rightful track then we can expect the demise of the party. The country can no longer function with one-party rule. This may be the desired result from the globalist and those calling the shots.
I don't see this happening to this extent for the reasons I cite above. There will be an increase, but not enough to make the difference. For many minority communities, it is a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea.
5th November 2022 22:20
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Reawaken American Tour- Branson, MO- Day 2 November 5th
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Quote:
Posted by Mark
They don't want to follow the far Left, but they have no place else to go.
This makes me physically ill. As far as I can see, your observations here are spot on.
From my perspective I see black and brown folks being corralled by the left. The right may not be the most optimal settling ground, either, for the reasons you explain in your post, but the left is downright manipulative and diabolical. It's disgusting.
BTW, I find very little to convince me the moderate left (let alone the radical left) have ever truly championed the interests of minorities--they are just exceptional at demonizing the opposition and attracting those to the party whose interests are otherwise. Lyndon B Johnson's infamous quote cited in the book Inside the Whitehouse and Margaret Sanger's sentiments outlined in the Negro Project come to mind...
6th November 2022 16:18
mountain_jim
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
I was looking for some forecasts, and found this on Fox News. It may not be reliable, of course, but as best I know it's probably not too far off.
Congress: ("The House")
Probable: Republican majority 236-199.
Democrat best case: Republican majority 223-212.
Republican best case: Republican majority 249-186.
Senate:
Probable: Republican majority 49-47 with 4 "toss-up' states.
The Republicans would only need to win 2 out of those 4 for a 51-49 majority.
My personal comment: this isn't just a "local" US thing. The entire world may be affected by the outcome. If the Republicans win both Congress and Senate, then while it's not at all guaranteed, it's possible that much may change, such as
Diminished support for Ukraine.
Reduced push for global war.
Impeachment proceedings initiated against Joe Biden.
Prosecution of Hunter Biden.
(and much more, including a tightening of the frighteningly open Mexican border)
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
That Fox presentation is upbeat, even with very rigged polling. The will of the people is a foregone conclusion. No doubt about it.
The nail biting part is the prospect of cyber intervention. We've heard nothing yet about repaired or fixed voting systems in America.
The people who stole 2020 over the internet are up against a wall ( electorally ), so what should we expect from them this time. They have nothing to lose by being brazen and cranking the algorithms up to beyond being stealthy, right into the obvious 'rig'. It's the only option they've got. They'll deal with the aftermath of that as they always do.
With the voting systems being unchanged from 2020 (except perhaps for a tighter grip on paper fraud), a repeat is inevitable unless there are military(?) contingencies to pounce on the election criminals red handed and transform the event into a GOTCHA Bust.
6th November 2022 23:35
T Smith
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
i'm still not convinced this election will even happen. A red wave just isn't an option for the criminals in power. I foresee either 1) a false flag early on Tuesday morning at a crowded polling location (God forbid), that halts everything, which will then be blamed on those odious election-denier MAGA Republicans, or 2) such blatant cheating we will see a purple wave at best. And while we may be able to curb the stuffed ballots this cycle, many swing states still use Dominion machines. As far as I know there is no way to audit the accuracy of the tally. Regardless of the count, the losing side will protest. That's the consequence when you do not have fair, honest, and transparent elections. There is absolutely nothing transparent about the proprietary vote tally, and at least half of the electorate doesn't trust the process.
I will also point out Bill Gates came out just a week or so ago and predicted the midterms would be contested, hung, and would trigger a civil war. (His words, not mine). Remember, this is the man who somehow foresaw and planned for the global coronavirus pandemic two months before it happened.
7th November 2022 03:35
thepainterdoug
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
not that im an expert or on top of all, but certain people seems to be missing. fauci, kamella , gates, and others seem to be laying low
not sure it means anything but...
7th November 2022 08:35
norman
Re: Red Please (the Nov 2022 US mid-term elections)
Democrat Whistleblower Confirms the Claims of "2000 Mules"
Dinesh D'Souza Published November 5, 2022
A whistleblower has come forward in Orlando to validate and confirm the claims of “2000 Mules” and, guess what? She’s a black Democrat.
