Red Poppy Day - it's a bust!
This may not be news to many of you, but I've had a series of realisations, over the last few days, regarding the red poppy of Rememberance Sunday.
It was triggered by my astonishment at David Cameron finding the time to write a letter to FIFA about why the English football team should be allowed to wear red poppies at a time when, as they keep telling us, we're on the eve of "economic Armegeddon" (not my words, but used by the BBC this morning).
I asked my spirits about this and in a vision, I was shown a vibrant red poppy on a blue sky and white clouds and I was told that this was imprinted on the subconscious minds of all of us as a symbol not of rememberance of the fallen, but to keep us cowed and fearful in rememberance of the wrath of the Rothschilds, whose wars we all have to fight. This subconscious motif is piggy-banking on a much longer-lived custom, going back into history, of honouring the ancestors... and so it goes really deep.
Later on that evening, I put on the television and heard, before I had time to change channels, that the costumes on Strictly Come Dancing on Saturday would all be on a red, white and blue theme.
After that, I heard that Iran has been found guilty of making nuclear weapons by the same international agency which found Iraq guilty of weapons of mass destruction.
And finally, I came on here later to learn about the fact that the only countries left in 2011 without a Central Bank owned by the Rothschild family are Cuba, North Korea and Iran.
I reckon that's a bust!
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I reckon you're on to something, Ishtar!
Also, not lost is the symbolism of poppies: sleep/sedation and death.
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I reckon you're on to something, Ishtar!
Also, not lost is the symbolism of poppies: sleep/sedation and death.
Gosh yes, Ruby L, that's a good point ~ Morpheus/morphine. The sedation of the masses.
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Very powerful vid. Thank you, Feardia.
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Hmmm, interesting ;-
The phrase "This opium you feed your people" appears in 1797 in Marquis de Sade's text L'Histoire de Juliette.
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Brazil´s central bank still belongs to Brazil, not to the Rothschild. I believe all central banks from South America still belong to their respective states as well.
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I agree, Ishtar, you are on to something here... From a young age, I was magnetized to the red poppy flower, myself, proclaiming it to be my favorite flower. I still do not know why. Can you elaborate on the ancient symbolism, or give us some links if you have them?
The Rothschild train is going down its tracks, even if it ends up in a train wreck. They know they will not be able to break out of this reality into higher dimensions, like most of Humanity.
This morning as I woke, the simple message was downoaded into my awareness, as a simple arrogant fact: ""Earth lost...""...
"They" may have been messing with my dream state during sleep, but I do not buy into this message.
I heard somewhere that there is a 'war' (or at the least hatred, envy) on those nations with red/white/green flags by the ones with the red/white/blue flags...
However, I do not understand who is behind it, or what the colors mean (green=Earth? red=human life? white=higher dimensions?)
Hmmm...:confused:
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Hi redlotus, yes, I agree. It really does feel as if some sort of covert war is going on and we probably won't know exactly what it's about and who the main players are (although I'm getting a few hints!) until it's all over.
I've been thinking that the red poppy image was probably thought up by the magician Aleister Crowley. He was covertly employed by the War Office during World War Two because they needed occult knowledge to defeat Hitler who was also using the occult. Crowley is said to have come up with the V-sign for Churchill, because it's based on ancient Egyptian motif which is an archetypal image already embedded in our subconscious. There's a link here explaining more about that. V for Victory.
http://ac2012.files.wordpress.com/20...ng?w=400&h=345
So somehow they've got this red poppy into our subconscious ~ but I've been working all day to get rid of mine. Although, having said that, I think once you realise that it's there, that it probably no longer has any power of you. Hopefully!! ;)
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Hi redlotus, yes, I agree. It really does feel as if some sort of covert war is going on and we probably won't know exactly what it's about and who the main players are (although I'm getting a few hints!) until it's all over.
I've been thinking that the red poppy image was probably thought up the magician Aleister Crowley. He was covertly employed by the War Office during World War Two because they needed occult knowledge to defeat Hitler who was also using the occult. Crowley is said to have come up with the V-sign for Churchill, because it's based on ancient Egyptian motif which is an archetypal image already embedded in our subconscious. There's a link here explaining more about that.
V for Victory.
http://ac2012.files.wordpress.com/20...ng?w=400&h=345
So somehow they've got this red poppy into our subconscious ~ but I've been working all day to get rid of mine. Although, having said that, I think once you realise that it's there, that it probably no longer has any power of you. Hopefully!! ;)
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Yeah, thanks for sharing that! They use all the ancient sacred symbols and make them their own... NO imagination...:rolleyes:
I was referring to the real ancient symbolism, though, there must be some deep roots to the poppy flower image: it is, after all, red, white and green! It could well be symbolic of Mother Earth, Gaia-Sophia. The real war is really on her... That is why the repetition of the mantra by Bush & Co. : 'War on terror'... really meaning:
"War on Terra"....Terra=Earth... Maybe we should hold on to the poppy image for the right reasons, it could well connect us to Gaia-Sophia. :):rolleyes:
You must be strongly linked to Mother Earth's vibrations, so am I. These messages are being sent to our sunconscious and I am sure, you too, are a warroir during sleep state, protecting Earth. (I know this is speculation, and Bill may totally frown on it...;)
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You have some good points there, redlotus. I will continue to work with the poppy image and my spirits, and I'll let you know if I get anything further....although as far as I know, and as I'm sure you know, the lotus is the oldest image used both in the Indian Vedas and the ancient Egyptian texts. If you're asking me to go further back than that, we're getting into orally transmitted lore territory and then we're really through the looking glass! ;)
Anyway, I'm going to bed now, so if I get any dreams about it, I'll let you know. :cool:
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I wish to comment on a couple of things here. Firstly, the Canadian use of poppies in ritual remembrance of those killed in action: the poppy was adopted for this function by Canadians after World War One. The flower was, and is, a plant native to France, and grows effusively in and around the battlegrounds. Its presence was noted by a Canadian doctor who was treating the wounded at the front, and he used it as an effective metaphor in his famous and powerful poem, "In Flanders Fields", here copied:
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Here's a useful link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Flanders_Fields
McRae, the author, was a doctor who knew full well the narcotic and analgesic effects of the poppy, and in his poem he likens death to a kind of sleep. His narrators, however, claim that they will not be able to sleep if the audience, which is living, does not keep faith with the mission that they have sacrificed themselves for. This in spite of the fact that they are buried amongst the soporific flowers.
This beautiful poem has been adopted by Canadians as a national treasure, recited reverently every year at ceremonies across Canada and around the world wherever we gather to commemorate the sacrifices of our armed forces members. It is as close as anything written has ever come to being a sacred ritual for us at these gatherings.
Thus, wearing the poppy emblem is a signifier that the wearer remembers those who have given their lives for their country to maintain its freedom from tyranny. Those who wear the poppy on Remembrance Day want to show that they are "keeping faith" by honouring their ancestors, and will remain awake and aware of the past struggles, and will remain ready to respond to any further threats. In this I find a noble impulse. I, along with thousands of my fellow Canadians, proudly wear the poppy on this day every year. By the way, all of the proceeds from the sale of these small emblems go toward paying for the care and rehabilitation of Canadian war veterans.
This, at least, is the role of the meaning of the poppy for my countrymen and women.
Secondly, I must point out an error in the claim:
"After that, I heard that Iran has been found guilty of making nuclear weapons by the same international agency which found Iraq guilty of weapons of mass destruction."
In fact, the opposite is true. The investigation into the presence in Iraq of weapons of mass destruction by the International Atomic Energy Commission, (an agency of the United Nations) found NO evidence of an Iraqi program to develop nuclear weapons. Their reports, and there were several, were roundly condemned as being false by American government officials. The American mainstream media did a very effective job of demonizing the work of the teams in general, and of vilifying the competence of the leadership in particular. The truth was strangled and crushed underfoot as America geared up for revenge. We all know the result.
Disconcertingly, the IAC's investigation into Iran's nuclear weapons program has revealed that it is now on the brink of constructing a nuclear weapon; it reportedly has all of the necessary parts, and needs a leadtime of only days in order to go ahead and assemble a device. This agency was proven to be correct in the past in its assessment of Iraq's nuclear capability. We can only hope that it has its facts wrong in the case of Iran. Considering the grave consequences of making an error in pronouncing such a conclusion, however, the IAC has been extremely careful and thorough in the preparation of its evidence. I, for one, believe them.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion.
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Yes, it does, thank you! I didn't know the red poppy was adopted from World War One onwards, and my memories around the events leading to the Iraq war have got confused. I remember now that there was a 'coalition of the willing' which there needn't have been if the IAEA had found these weapons.
But I too have looked at the evidence for Iran having a nuclear weapon, presented by BBC News, and I thought that it was largely circumstantial. I also find it a little hypocritical of us to ban other nations from producing a nuclear weapon when we have them (and far worse!) in spades. Looking at it from their point of view, perhaps they are only developing one to use as a deterrent ... this is always our justification for having them anyway. If we really want other nations to stop developing nuclear weapons, we have to eradicate all means of this by stopping selling them the component parts and also destroying our own.
On the issue of the poppy being a means to remember the fallen dead ... I have been studying prehistoric shamanism for a number a years. Through archaeological finds, we know that man has always honoured his dead and remembered his ancestors. This practice goes very deep with us. In fact, (and we find this worldwide during the Palaeolithic and Neolithic) a feature of the ritual of honouring the dead was the use of red hematite (otherwise known as red ochre). So the colour 'red' and the honouring of the dead is an ancient motif within our race memory.
So I believe that the subconscious image of the red poppy is piggy-banking on that ancient custom which lies deep in our race memories, so that we no longer honour our ancestors (this ritual was replaced by the Christians with All Hallows Eve or Halloween where the spirits of the dead ancestors became ghouls and demons). That only leaves us Remembrance Sunday where we honour the dead we lost to war... thus only giving respects to those who fought in wars, and not the others, and there can be no doubt that these wars are fought to make the rich richer.
So this is a sleight of hand. The red of the hematite has been hijacked along with the desire to honour the ancestors to become a celebration (and it is a celebration marked with ceremonies and rituals) of war marked with the red poppy.
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Our soldiers have been dying for the banks for centuries now and one of the biggest secret money makers is the drug trade. Afghanistan is where our soldiers are now protecting the crops. We had the Opium wars. This is an Anglo-American thing. Poppies are very popular with the Elite and it is they who create the conditions that create war veterans in the first place. The poppy is kind of a sick furk you azzhole in joke with them.
I first read this on Veterans Today website. I had a serious aha! moment.
I looked for a link but can't find it right now. Food for thought, or the compost pile.
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Yes, I agree, modwiz.
I was just looking for something on the use of red hematite in burial rites during prehistoric times and found this in my files. It is about the burial rites of the Neanderthals and along with red hematite, it seems that flowers were also sprinkled on the dead bodies, although not poppies. So this shows that red and flowers have been associated with honouring the dead for tens of thousands of year,at least, before the wars of the Wrath Childs...
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At the early archaic human site of Atapuerca in Spain, there is evidence of the intentional storing of bones from at least 32 people in a cave chamber by as early as 300,000 years ago. This behavior suggests a belief that dead humans are not the same as other animals. By 90,000 years ago, several Neandertal cave sites provide the first reasonably good evidence of intentional burial of their dead. They presumably buried relatives and friends in shallow graves dug into the soft midden soil of their living areas at the mouths of caves and rock shelters. Usually the bodies were flexed in a fetal position. Frequently, the bones were stained with hematite, rust-red iron ore. It is likely that the bodies were either sprinkled with hematite powder or the powdered pigment was mixed with a viscous liquid medium, such as vegetable seed oil or animal fat, and painted on the bodies. In nearly half of the 33 known Neandertal burials, stone tools and/or animal bones were found in the graves. Not all paleoanthropologists agree that these objects were intentionally placed there in funerary rites. If they were, however, it implies that the Neandertals were trying to prepare the dead for what was ahead of them. In the case of a burial in ShanidarCave, Northern Iraq, there may have been even more elaborate ritual activity. Apparently, the body of a man was placed on pine boughs in the grave and flowers from 8 different species (including hyacinths, daisies, hollyhocks, and bachelor's buttons) were sprinkled on top. It is difficult to account for such activity by Neandertals unless it is assumed that they believed in some sort of afterlife. If they thought that their dead relatives and friends were only food or garbage, it is highly unlikely that they would have carefully buried them in this way.
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This film is showing a lot about this game ..... nothing is like it seems !
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LYopN...1BE1E4E082ABFE
Poppys are medicine plants but most all medicines miss used are additive drugs !
In wrong hands by wrong reasons this plant now is the cause of death and destrution.
There are many sorts of Papaver (latin name) and there are those used as seeds in food and on bread !
They are nutritious and contains many healthy properties as oil !
When the oil has been extracted the remains (Seed cake) is and has been important as winter supply for animals as food in small amount .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaveraceae
This is the symbol of the fallen soldier and it grows in nature and have no drug properties !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_rhoeas
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Excellent research, Ishtar,
If their burial is in the fetal position it is proof, that all ancients, who used that type of burial were related groups. This is the most important evidence connecting various nations to one common ancient ancestry - starting from the various Basins of Central Asia, Central Europe, Ireland, France, Persia, Greece, the Etruscans, just to name a few...
The Neanderthals, according to many alternative researchers, had advanced cultures, and were not extinct. It is all false 'his-story' ... and we know why?
I also liked this Wikipedia entry, thanks: Maria Stade,
"'Persian literature
In Persian literature, red poppies, especially red corn poppy flowers, are considered the flower of love. They are often called the eternal lover flower. ""
Maybe the persians preserved the ancient true symbolism of this simple flower.
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Or how about the wars being fought for the poppy fields and other drugs ie. cocaine.
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Very violent but yet excellent movie. Explaining the violence of the PTB and the reasons why they do need war to go on, and us to remain ignorant and inactive.
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For most of my life, I have been aware that the criminals in and outside government have a twisted sense of humour. I knew that from years of seeing TV programs showing people shooting bullets into cotton to disprove the "Magic Bullet Theory" of the Kennedy Assassination. Maybe both I and the psychos who made up this lie wondered how far they could go and how much people would buy into. How many times do we need to see someone shooting a bullet into cotton before we realize there's another guy somewhere laughing his butt off. How stupid and trusting are the people anyway? How reluctant are they to believe their own eyes or trust their own reasoning?
As time goes on the liars in government become increasingly brazen.
But the Poppy on Remembrance day? Now that's subtle, but good, as jokes on us go.
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Guys, I want to thank all of you in this thread who have helped me formulate my thoughts on this since first having the revelation from my spirit guides a few days ago. I had some gaps in my knowledge and you have filled them. This has enabled me to pull it all together for a post on my blog for today entitled Rememberance Sunday Dismembered. Please let me know what you think of it:
REMEMBERANCE SUNDAY DISMEMBERED
I was astonished to hear that David Cameron found time to write a letter to FIFA about why the English football team should be allowed to wear red poppies at a time when, as they keep telling us, we’re on the eve of “economic Armegeddon”.
You’d think he had more pressing things to do!
So I asked my spirits about the significance of the red poppy and within the shamanic trance state, they gave me a blindingly vivid vision.
I was shown a vibrant red poppy on a brilliant blue sky and pristine fluffy white clouds (so the astral plains are obviously not plagued with chemtrails!)
Anyway, I was told that this image was imprinted on the subconscious minds of all of us, through subliminal means which are reinforced every Rememberance Sunday, and that the red opium poppy is not so much a symbol of rememberance of the fallen, but to keep us cowed and fearful in rememberance of the wrath of the Rothschilds and the Morgans et al, whose wars we all have to fight.
But the real dastardly trick is how they’ve got this subconscious motif to piggy-back on a much longer-lived custom, going back into history, of honouring the ancestors… and so it goes really deep.
I’ll explain further. First of all, here is the poem which gave the Psy-ops guys the idea:
In Flanders Fields
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
This poem, In Flanders Fields, was written by Canadian doctor Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae who was treating the wounded at the Front, and it became very popular after the First World War. But what McCrae describes is a kind of threat which rings deep into our archetypal subconscious. The threat is that our ancestors won’t rest in peace unless we ‘take up the quarrel with the foe’…. And so by remembering the fallen dead through the symbol of the red poppy, we are being programmed and reprogrammed, over and over again, into fighting the never-ending Opium Wars of the Morgans and the Rothschilds, now in Afghanistan.
Thus, I think this motif stuck deep in our race memories is due for some shamanic dismemberment.
That the powers-that-be use magical subliminal imagery to keep us in line may come as a surprise to some. They may not realise that the magician Aleister Crowley was covertly employed by the War Office during World War Two because they needed his occult knowledge to defeat Hitler who was also using the occult. Crowley is said to have come up with the V-sign for Churchill, because it’s based on an ancient Egyptian motif which is an archetypal image already embedded in our subconscious.
http://ishtarsgate.files.wordpress.c...ng?w=300&h=258
But why the red poppy? Well, I have a theory about that …
Through archaeological finds, we know that man has always honoured his dead and remembered his ancestors. This practice goes very deep with us. In fact, (and we find this worldwide during the Palaeolithic and Neolithic) a feature of the ritual of honouring the dead was the use of red hematite (otherwise known as red ochre). So the colour ‘red’ has long been associated with burial rites going back at least as far as the Neanderthals.
Hematite
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At the early archaic human site of Atapuerca in Spain, there is evidence of the intentional storing of bones from at least 32 people in a cave chamber by as early as 300,000 years ago. This behavior suggests a belief that dead humans are not the same as other animals.
By 90,000 years ago, several Neandertal cave sites provide the first reasonably good evidence of intentional burial of their dead. They presumably buried relatives and friends in shallow graves dug into the soft midden soil of their living areas at the mouths of caves and rock shelters. Usually the bodies were flexed in a fetal position. Frequently, the bones were stained with hematite a rust-red iron ore.
It is likely that the bodies were either sprinkled with hematite powder or the powdered pigment was mixed with a viscous liquid medium, such as vegetable seed oil or animal fat, and painted on the bodies. In nearly half of the 33 known Neandertal burials, stone tools and/or animal bones were found in the graves.
Not all paleoanthropologists agree that these objects were intentionally placed there in funerary rites. If they were, however, it implies that the Neandertals were trying to prepare the dead for what was ahead of them. In the case of a burial in Shanidar Cave, Northern Iraq, there may have been even more elaborate ritual activity. Apparently, the body of a man was placed on pine boughs in the grave and flowers from 8 different species (including hyacinths, daisies, hollyhocks, and bachelor’s buttons) were sprinkled on top. It is difficult to account for such activity by Neandertals unless it is assumed that they believed in some sort of afterlife. From
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_3.htm
Lest we forget, the huge fortunes that the big banks are sitting on today were originally made out of trading in drugs, pure and simple. The British East India Company traded the opium grown from poppies in India with China. They deliberately created addiction to opium in the Chinese people ~ and now they are policing the opium trade in Afghanistan.
This is from Opium Wars in Wikipedia.
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The Opium Wars, also known as the Anglo-Chinese Wars, divided into the First Opium War from 1839 to 1842 and the Second Opium War from 1856 to 1860, were the climax of disputes over trade and diplomatic relations between China under the Qing Dynasty and the British Empire.
After the inauguration of the Canton System in 1756, which restricted trade to one port and did not allow foreign entrance to China, the British East India Company faced a trade imbalance in favor of China and invested heavily in opium production to redress the balance.
British and United States merchants brought opium from the British East India Company’s factories in Patna and Benares, in the Bengal Presidency of British India, to the coast of China, where they sold it to Chinese smugglers who distributed the drug in defiance of Chinese laws. Aware both of the drain of silver and the growing numbers of addicts, the Dao Guang Emperor demanded action. Officials at the court who advocated legalization of the trade in order to tax it were defeated by those who advocated suppression.
In 1838, the Emperor sent Lin Zexu to Guangzhou where he quickly arrested Chinese opium dealers and summarily demanded that foreign firms turn over their stocks. When they refused, Lin stopped trade altogether and placed the foreign residents under virtual siege, eventually forcing the merchants to surrender their opium to be destroyed.
In response, the British government sent expeditionary forces from India which ravaged the Chinese coast and dictated the terms of settlement. The Treaty of Nanking not only opened the way for further opium trade, but ceded territory including Hong Kong, unilaterally fixed Chinese tariffs at a low rate, granted extraterritorial rights to foreigners in China which were not offered to Chinese abroad, a most favored nation clause, as well as diplomatic representation. When the court still refused to accept foreign ambassadors and obstructed the trade clauses of the treaties, disputes over the treatment of British merchants in Chinese ports and on the seas led to the Second Opium War and the Treaty of Tientsin.
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Thus the red poppy (red, flower, opium) is the perfect symbol to piggy-bank on a much more rooted ancient custom which lies deep in our race memories, and this sleight-of-hand trick means we no longer have official times of honouring our ancestors per se, thus cutting us off from another source of self-empowerment.
In the Celtic tradition, the time of Samhain at the end of October was when the ancestors were traditionally remembered. Samhain was replaced by the Christians with All Hallows Eve or Halloween where the spirits of the dead ancestors became ghouls and demons, thus dumbing-down and distorting its original purpose. That left us with just Rememberance Sunday where we only honour the dead which we lost through wars fought for the global elite ~ and we make a subconscious promise, at the same time, to keep fighting the never-ending list of foes of the drug-dealing Wraths Childs, so that our ancestors can rest in peace.
What a low trick!
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Excellent Thread Ishtar most of the comments I would have said, have already been well put forward...
Safe to say illusionigenics are as old as man and can be used for good or bad depending on the motives of the user....
The CIA has had a great deal of involvement in the drugs trade for the last 50 years or so, as John Leare explained in his several of his interviews..
I put a thread up the other day about CIA, drugs & mind control ..The MK Ultra programme started in the 50's/60's
and probably is still going on today in some form ie super soldiers, programmed assassins etc as in the underwear bomber quiet recently....
Ron Paul knew all about this years ago and more or less said the press were covering it up in this interview about Bush Snr and Oliver North....
Cheers Steve.
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ever walked in the mountains and seen the red's relative,
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