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He lives modestly, but think of all the books he's written.... I don't know what the big deal is. Everyone wants to be rich or better off than they are. Why would anyone want to hold it against David Icke? I wish him all good fortune....
He has been stolen by his ex agent and ex wife, and lost everything including his authors rights. If I am not mistaken, I remember reading about it. Only the last one or two books does he have the rights to it.
So, he is not rich, in fact, he is rather poor, following western standards.
Saw this ages ago - he's not minted - yet he has sell-out events, but he is providing for his family - get over it! He's a decent bloke who has positivity in his mind and activities. Let's wish there were more just like him :-)
he can't be richer than jesse ventura who steals stories for a living from people about to croak
i am still bitter about the tesla death ray fred bell incident being tied somehow to my blog being removed. lmao
ooh get over it you daftie!!! LOL!!
Ones' abode is not necessarily an indicator of wealth. However, I will take his (David's) word for it, not that it matters. What counts is his credibility and reputation and not his net worth.
Granted, the parting shots by Jesse Ventura may have been unfounded, but oil and water just don't mix. Too bad the two of them can't try again.
By the way. David's subterranean palace is probably much more lavish ;) (j/k)
He has a product and he sells it. If it was something that people didnt want then he would be poor,nothing wrong with that
I watched this piece some time ago... interesting to see how 'normal' he lives.
Just the same, I find it a shame that, even among the 'enlightened', having 'wealth' is equated with how much money someone makes or has.
True Value is the Value of the Person, what they Represent, and, more than anything, What They DO.
In terms of True Value, what David Icke is Doing, is Priceless. (IMO)
In Unity, Peace and Love
David has been discussing this idea for a while now, this is an updated
vid on the subject of the electric universe and Saturn, moon maitrix.....
I'm in fairly solid agreement with Icke.
My speculation:
1) The solar system is a big energy generator.
2) Saturn uses this energy to generate a "tone" which is "programmed/bent" through the various ring orbits which modify the "tone".
3) This tone is picked up by the moon, whose orbit alters it as it reaches the earth. Large scale frequency manipulation. [Not so much the moon as it's position and size/mass]
4) This frequency, is absorbed and manifested in the fractal forms of reality.
Imagine watching the planet over billions of years in fast forward. It would be like a liquid, morphing, mass. These "tones" are modifying that liquid mass, including our saline bodies, which just happen to have about the same salt density as our oceans. E.G. Capacitors for this "tone", planetary and individual. One big liquid mass. (seems solid to us)
My only concern is that the "blaming" of Saturn as some great plight upon our reality. For all we know saturn is the 3D reality system and is very old, very purposeful, and not necessarily a bad thing. The moon however could be an aggression towards taking control of that 3D system, technology developed with a limited understanding of something far more ancient.
After all, why modify an existing system if you had the knowledge to just create a whole new one.
Plato, Masonic Circle Geometry, Music, Tesla, RCA, HAARP. It's all just waves.
All these planetary emissions leave their mark on the psyche of man, according to their different identities. So while Saturn is about law and order, so the moon is about the cycles of nature, governing growth, emotions, and the nurturance of life in general.
But human beings can counter their planetary impulses, if they so choose.
Once someone is aware that they have options of direction,
and have set themselves a particular goal then the planetary impression can be ignored in favor of that agenda.
If such an agenda furthermore serves the greater whole,
then a person will be given extra energies to reach their goals,
and by beings whose scope of influence is greater than just our mere solar system.
Great post, thanks.
http://lunesoleil23.files.wordpress....icke.jpg?w=540
Asteroid Icke in the sign of Scorpio to meet David Icke
http://lunesoleil23.wordpress.com/20...de-david-icke/
This is my last column published on my blog that I share with you, good discovery :wizard::cool:
This is not really a synchronicity, it and on the road with the Moon by David Icke who arrives on his natal Saturn...Quote:
Posted by Cidersomerset
Thanks for this thread
I would take the time to listen to French translation in this video, thanks for sharing this beautiful :wizard:
here is a weird something or two:
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http://www.skyscript.co.uk/rhand.html
Q: When Saturn went through Cancer in 1974, the United States went through Watergate and the final withdrawal from Vietnam. Have you looked at the next transit of Saturn through Cancer and what that might bring for the U.S. and for George W. Bush?
Particularly with George Bush's Sun on the Sun of the United States, I imagine it's safe to assume that there will be repetitions of that sort of thing - which does not augur well for any involvement in the Middle East being successful.
Saturn conjunctions to the Sun do not necessarily mean failure, but the Saturn-Sun cycle is one of the few cycles where the conjunction is a culmination rather than a beginning.
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Astrology is beautiful and profound. It is a science, and an art, and a vehicle for spiritual growth. Sometimes, when astrologers look ahead, what we see is difficult. And yet, even in difficult times, there is always a higher path to awareness. Knowledge is the key, and awareness can change everything. Our fate is not set in stone, even though powerful astrological influences have challenging effects, both in our personal lives, and in the life of the world. So what does astrology have to offer us now, at this crucial moment in history?
First, let’s look at the WHY? part of this equation. It’s called a Saturn/ Pluto opposition. Saturn is the lord of Karma and signifies structure, order, hierarchy, government, authority, financial institutions, control, material concerns, limitation, and rigidity of thought. Pluto, the lord of the Underworld rules transformation, power, death, rebirth, upheaval, brute force, dramatic changes, criminality, breakdown, and rebuilding. And Saturn and Pluto are at war, which is really something. Symbolically, it represents events that will lead to the breakdown of an old, rigid order, which will ultimately lead to new growth. It started officially on August 5th 2001 and keeps on trucking through May of 2002, with a peak in the beginning of November 2001. That could be a hint about the duration of the worst of it, but there could be effects as far as 2004.
Throughout history, whenever Saturn and Pluto meet, whether it is a conjunction, a square, or an opposition, there is significant warfare and/or recession/depression. Looking back over the last 100 years, the meeting of Saturn/Pluto presided over WWI, the Great Depression, and WWII, the Cold War, the Vietnam War, and a number of highly significant struggles in the Middle East, including the Gulf War. The last time an opposition occurred was during 1965-66, which coincided with Viet Nam. But the ingredients of this situation are obviously different in many ways. The financial ramifications are already surfacing, but I do not think it will be as difficult as people fear.
This year’s eclipses seem to have a strong relationship to our current situation. The eclipse pattern of 2001 is predominantly in the signs of Cancer and Capricorn. The US is considered by many to have a Cancer Sun, (yes countries have natal charts), and our president is a Cancer. An eclipse occurred this year the day before his birthday, on July 5th as a matter of fact, denoting a particularly fateful year for Bush. On the day the Trade Center was attacked Mars in Capricorn opposed the Moon in Cancer, which went over the same degree as the June 21, 2001 Solar Eclipse in Cancer.
astrology is very important to human events, i am thinking.
we think we are awake.
but truly, we are carried through our experiences by greater forces
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A couple of articles on Davids site....History has a habbit of repeating itselfe'
especially when the same old powers run the world from behind the scenes!
David Icke - When Government Knocks ...
Sunday, 03 February 2013 11:15
Posted by David Icke
Some strong pictures of oppression,,,
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Sandy Hook's 'Spontaneous' Child-Helping Gene Rosen at 2008 FEMA Camp Training To Help Children In Emergency Situations
Sunday, 03 February 2013 11:37
Posted by David Icke
Gene Rosen's Facebook Page on a Mission to Take Down Videos Questioning Sandy Hook
So why would Gene Rosen want to stop free speech over Sandy Hook?
Gene Rosen’s Audition Clip
Click here to see ...
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...8-at-fema-camp
A related story. its very hard to ask a politition a difficult question....
The press will loose their passes & access and the public will be
arrested and possibly tasered as this student was.
What happens if you ask John Kerry, the new Rothschild Zionist US Secretary of State,
about his membership of the super-secret and sinister Skull and Bones Society -
Boy George Bush his 'opponent' in the 2004 presidential election is also a member
Sunday, 03 February 2013 10:39
Posted by David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stor...d-bones-21.jpg
Skull and Bones initiates at Yale University pledge to put the demands and interests
of the secret society before anything else - including the public and principles that
they are supposed to represent in political office.
The Skull and Bones initiation for those like Bush and Kerry who go on to be presidents,
leading politicians, government administrators, judges, etc., includes lying naked in a coffin. Nice.
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...-also-a-member
history repeats because of the same secret group running the same agenda for a very long time... change the faces and it' still the same agenda, the common thread is , yale, Harvard , lawyers, oil, money and ego ... These days we need each other more than ever...One is only as strong as the one next to them in this battle for the minds ...it's gonna take all of us together united, stay united together in purpose ... they shot JFK, one of their own, and some still believe the government has our best interest in mind , pause . ehummm ...NO only their interest ... it's always divide and conquer, thats why we must be United...
I think David got a little bit excited about this one..LOl..
Big Shock to the Big Bang: As David Icke has been saying in his books for 20
years - there was no Big Bang
Monday, 04 February 2013 12:12
Posted by David Icke
Given that mainstream science is based on the fact that the Big Bang happened
when it didn't the entire edifice of song sheet official 'science' must therefore be
pseudo-'scientific' nonsense.
Mainstream science is largely not science at all, but an endless list of flawed
assumptions constantly repeated until they are accepted as fact.
Icke's law: bollocks begets bollocks.
Published on 2 Feb 2013
According to astronomers a recently discovered group of quasars exceeds in size
anything previously believed possible, requiring a fundamental revision of cosmological
theory. But perhaps the real mystery is how the scientific media failed to acknowledge
that discoveries of this sort were predicted by one of the 20th century's leading
astronomers, Halton Arp. Many years ago, Arp observed that astronomers were
misinterpreting quasar redshift, placing these objects at the boundaries of observable
space. Quasars, he said, are much closer than assumed and nothing like the size
required by the standard interpretation of redshift.
The Thunderbolts Project put together an e-book for anyone interested in learning
more about the Electric Universe view on the Big Bang. It's available for download
at Scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/122109768/...ctric-Big-Bang
There wasn't any big bang..this is something to just explain unknowns in science. It was just a theory, and incorrect one at that.
Rosen Worked at Fairfield Hills; CIA Brainwashing
Monday, 04 February 2013 12:07
Posted by David Icke
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stor...0131/rosen.jpg
'Gene Rosen worked at the Fairfield Hills mental hospital.
"Gene Rosen, a resident of Sandy Hook, CT for the past twenty years,
is a retired psychologist who worked for several years in Newtown at Fairfield Hills State Hospital."'
Read more: Rosen Worked at Fairfield Hills; CIA Brainwashing
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/7...-brainwashing-
Tomorows headlines " Big Bang theory turns out to be Huge Suck actuality"
Thunderbolts was/is great, makes sense, even to me. ( not a cosmologist )
The big bang is a mental process. In Dark Planets, Tom van Flandern starts out from a single particle and thinks his way up to a nearly infinite universe.
Interesting video. Makes sense - something the Big Bang never did.
In my writings I try to explain this incorrect assumption about the Big Bang in a number of ways. My most compelling argument is the idea of scales.
At the moment of the Big Bang that was the universe - a tiny atom-like structure. A second later it was a few light years across - but only from the point of view of the starting point was it larger. The universe is the same size continuously. Only when compared to some other time - in the past - is the universe larger or smaller. These are ideas of scale. And they are entirely time-dependant.
I know it makes little sense. As above, so below - may be easier to grasp. It is a matter of scale or level. It is actually a threshold of awareness, and nothing at all to do with reality "out there".
In the absence of everything, nothing is infinite. In the absence of nothing, everything is infinite.
A couple of vids about them, i had not heard of them before sounds interresting
looking at the cosmos with the help of mythology and the electric universe...
ion says the universe is created from pure electricity squared and a bit
more i can't remember off hand ...LOl..
Wal Thornhill & David Talbott | EU 2013 Off-Stage
Published on 31 Jan 2013
Wal Thornhill and David Talbott, founding members of The Thunderbolts Project,
sat down for an interview at the recent conference, ELECTRIC UNIVERSE: THE
TIPPING POINT. They review their converging interests, giving personal
observations on the state of science today and the growing Electric Universe
movement.
For more interviews with Wal, David, and many of the other great minds involved in
the Electric Universe, listen to our podcast, available for free subscription at:
We all know this was coming ..LOL Now i started watching ..........
Uploaded on 19 Feb 2012
To purchase the full DVD: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/reso...2-conference-d...
Author David Talbott suggests that all of human history can be seen as just two
stories. First, came the story of ancient mythology, when towering gods were said
to have ruled the world. Then came the story of science, emerging from a growing
distrust of the myths and a new emphasis on direct observation and reason.
But a third story is possible, according to Talbott, one that sees the underlying
provocation of the myths in extraordinary electrical events occurring close to the
Earth. That discernment will lead to a new perspective on modern science as well.
Today, a third story IS possible. But it requires a reconsideration of both human
stories—that of myth and that of "settled science"—seeing both through the fresh
lens of the Electric Universe."
That was a really good presentation bringing a lot of things I have read/watched
over the last few years together !!
This is misleading.
This only shows that the universe's age might not be what it was thought to be, and the rate at which quasars form and disperse in space is not what we thought it would be.
Essentially, a Big Bang is only one phase a certain universe goes through, and these events are always cyclic in nature. But of course, media being misleading, as always.
That time exists only in wave particle components. That time exists as differential between any two.
That in a superconductive 2-d sheet, which is how it works..there is no time.
Which is your clue about longitudinal and transverse wave function in an electric universe.
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Posted by bogeyman
How do you know that 100% Not a dig or anything but my gut just works differentQuote:
Posted by Bill RyanI agree 100%.Quote:
Posted by bogeyman
Is there anything that is 100%
"All is well" and as it should be?
Sometimes anything less than 100% can be just plain sloppy.
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Clearly, the conventional view that the physical universe originated in a big bang explosion represents a violation on a stupendous scale of both the first and second laws of thermodynamics. But this detail is often ignored on the grounds that the actual violation would have taken place in a very brief time interval, lasting less than 10 -43^ seconds. Paul LaViolette, Subquantum Kinetics, p.6
Lets say then that this is about our perception of what we think its "time". As faulty as it is. Even with your own explanation, the above said still stands.Quote:
Posted by Carmody
I believe you have background in physics/astrophysics Bill. Would you mind explaining to us why you agree with this notion 100%? What have others missed?Quote:
Posted by Bill RyanI agree 100%.Quote:
Posted by bogeyman
Yes, it has to do with things moving at FTL speeds in the very birth stage of the universe, which is a "violation" of physical laws. But is it?Quote:
Posted by araucaria
Great thread, Bump.
Many theories in science were excepted until something came along to disprove it, its remarkable that "common sense" isn't used, for many false assumptions and theories have slow us down, in some cases for over a thousand years.
Yes, it has to do with things moving at FTL speeds in the very birth stage of the universe, which is a "violation" of physical laws. But is it?[/QUOTE]Quote:
Posted by OnyxKnight
Yes. The point was that a closed-system description doesn't hold water because we are dealing with an open system. I think this holds for just about every area of activity: we have a leaky bucket that is now leaking more out of the bottom than out of the top and will soon have to be discarded :)
Not so much this pic , but the one of the sunspot on the vid reminded me of
a Mandlebrot....
http://emergent-culture.com/wp-conte...t-Close-up.jpg
http://thescienceattic.files.wordpre...ot-fractal.jpg
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We are told Comets are made up of ice, dust and space debris.This does
not seem to be the case ...
http://astrobob.areavoices.com/files...-hartley-2.jpg
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http://thehiddenrecords.com/images/d...ony-Peratt.jpg
Plasma spot representations on theses figures,Some really thought provoking stuff !!