How The Anunnaki Prevent Disclosure

[A Reptoid Anunnaki Presence Hiding In The Shadows]

There have been other threads that mention Clark's research, and there are other threads that link interviews with Gerald Clark. This thread is here to show the members a direct link between Clark's work, Zecharia Sitchin, and even Edgar Cayce's work. Most importantly, Clark's work gives a clear evidential trail of research to which an investigator can go to source the interpretations Gerald proposes. All of his interpretations are based on ancient records which can be reviewed by any interested investigator.

Research References:

"The Anunnaki on Earth Coast to Coast AM" -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zFmQw1N_cgQ

"26 Oct 2013 - The Anunnaki's Legacy" -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LHuOs69w6-c

"The Anunnaki of Nibiru: Mankind's Forgotten Creators, Enslavers, Saviors, and Hidden Architects of the New World Order" - Gerald Clark
http://www.amazon.com/Anunnaki-Nibir...naki+of+nibiru

*Update*

This is also an excellent video, thank you heyakoh

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Posted by heyokah

Here's the latest interview with Gerald Clark.

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=o8tYY...e_gdata_player

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Here's the latest interview with Gerald Clark.

Host Denise Chavez Goforth and Guest Gerald Clark Discussing The Anunnaki Of Nibiru on Blog Talk Radio.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=o8tYYkhU8gU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The evidence will show that the global elite have mastered the technique of mind manipulation through the process of implanting thoughts using advanced microwave technology. This is exactly the same technology an hyperdimensional species of reptilian aliens have been using against the Mass of Humanity since the Dawn of Man. The same technology in use since those hyperdimensional reptilian aliens came to this planet and manipulated Neanderthal Man into Homo Sapiens, using advanced gene-splicing technology several hundred thousand years ago.

The evidence will show these advanced hyperdimensional reptilian aliens were known by the earliest civilization on this planet as the Anunnaki. The statuary left behind by this Sumerian Civilization, which was produced to represent these Anunnaki Gods, were reptilian in appearance. There is also a vast amount of evidence from other remotely detached civilizations, found around the world, which represent their gods as reptiles.

If one considers Clark's research and comes to the realization that these Anunnaki Gods never left, one can clearly see how the fate of Humanity has been cleverly manipulated since the Dawn of Man.

"They are very clever at what they do...."

Research Resources:

Dr. Barrie Trower -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk
(move timer over to 11:00 minutes)

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura - Brain Invaders -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Mltt...83B0D0497E84C6

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Research Resources:

Dr. Barrie Trower -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZdB-tbzJSrk
(move timer over to 11:00 minutes)

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura - Brain Invaders -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6Mltt...83B0D0497E84C6

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As you mentioned Dr. Barrie Tower, here's his website:

http://www.stopthecrime.net/trower.html

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JojdEH0nzos&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.stopthecrime.net

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Posted by heyokah

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As you mentioned Dr. Barrie Tower, here's his website:
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Thank you, heyokah, for your input.

I linked Dr. Tower in comment #3 because few of the members will admit, or even understand, the information being accessed from telepathic communication is manipulated information. These techniques are technologies that are recently (within the past fifty, or so years) in the possession of the Global Elite. However, they are identical to the technologies that have been used against the Mass of Humanity dating all the way back to the Dawn of Man. If one takes the time to research what Dr. Tower is saying, one easily comes to the realization these microwave technologies are one-in-the-same as alien Anunnaki Technologies.

The historic record, dating back to the first written word, is littered with examples of telepathic communications in the form of prophecies from every form of seer, clairvoyant, prophet, channeler, or whatever other name you care to attach to the phenomenon. If the members were to spend the time listening to the Gerald Clark research that is linked in the OP it will become clear why there will never be a full and complete "disclosure", and who is really responsible for these circumstances.

Many of the members believe Zecharia Sitchin's work was a hoax. Because some charlatan 'channeled' this revelation, many who believe in the telepathic thought entrainment phenomenon have subscribed to this character assassination of Sitchin.

The previous three comments in this thread were intended to show evidence that this telepathic phenomenon is a product of an high technology dating-back to the Dawn of Man. With what we now know about the aspects of the electromagnetic spectrum, there can be no doubt this is a weapon in the arsenal of the Anunnaki that has been in use since the genetic manipulation that created Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

If you have taken the time to listen to the Gerald Clark interviews that are posted in the OP, and you have researched any of the links that are referenced in those interviews, one will realize Sitchin was very much spot on.

I am linking this presentation by Michael Tellinger because in it Sitchin is referenced and further vindicated by the evidence. If one listens to what Tellinger has discovered, one will quickly realize these Anunnaki were an highly advanced technological race of hyperdimensional travelers. The artifacts that were left behind in South Africa serve no other purpose. The evidence is clear, these Anunnaki were technologically advanced even by our current standards, and they occupied the South African territory some four hundred thousand years ago.

Research Referenced:

Michael Tellinger - Anunnaki and Ancient Hidden Technology (MUST WATCH) -
https://youtube.com/watch?v=NiVROBhwHUM

[It is important to understand that the Anunnaki created nearly forty social systems in the days of Sumer that continue to control the foundations of civilization to this day. - see Samuel Noah Kramer, University of Pennsylvania]

If one will consider the evidence I will post in my next comment, one will clearly see the Anunnaki never left the planet.

Thank you observer for this thought provoking speech of Michael Tellinger.
This was a great video, and if you had that 4 hour one going into more detail I would watch it in a heartbeat.

The first part of the presentation showed some amazing ancient technologies that were found in South Africa.

In the second part Michael Tellinger's ideas of how humans can become free from money are to me in the right direction.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NiVROBhwHUM

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Posted by heyokah

Thank you observer for this thought provoking speech of Michael Tellinger.
This was a great video, and if you had that 4 hour one going into more detail I would watch it in a heartbeat.

The first part of the presentation showed some amazing ancient technologies that were found in South Africa.

In the second part Michael Tellinger's ideas of how humans can become free from money are to me in the right direction.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NiVROBhwHUM

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Great synopsis -- I usually can't spend that kind of time watching a video -- but I couldn't stop watching this one
it's fantastic
both parts -- the alien technology and the political part
thanks so much for the link

This thread is about understanding why there will be no disclosure. The evidence which has been presented so far establishes a clear presence of Reptoid Aliens known to antiquity as Anunnaki. We could spend weeks presenting further evidence of the Anunnaki presence operating in the global theater, however, all of that evidence has been documented and well presented in every possible detail. All one need do is search-engine "ancient aliens", and millions of hits will be produced to which one might spend years of research.

The point of this thread is to show that these Reptoid Anunnaki are still among us, and that they control every aspect of our social structure. Without listening to the earlier evidence presented within this thread, it is useless to move-on to what will be presented next:

Statuary of ancient Anunnaki as depicted by the Sumerians:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d2p7TKWFJE...0/anunnaki.jpg

Statue of Inanna, the daughter of Enlil:

http://goddessinspired.files.wordpre...na-descent.jpg

Take note to the reptilian toes and the wings depicted on Enlil's daughter, Inanna.
Note:
Enlil was one of the principal Sumerian gods who, as legend tells, was the god responsible for annihilating humanity with a flood (among other attempts). Enlil was Also Known As (A.K.A.) Yahweh, or Jehovah of the Old Testament, and as Allah of The Quran.


The Mothman legend is one of many contemporary legends that have a basis in eyewitness testimony:


http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps43b745c4.jpg

Note the reptilian toes and the wings of this contemporary statue of Mothman - just like Enlil's daughter, Inanna.

Research Resources:

John Rhodes - Underground Bases, Reptilians Humanoid Are Underground Dwellers:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=98oGrDWs4Bc

More from John Rhodes - Reptilian Humanoids & Secret Underground Locations:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iCHZTXPU3yU&feature=youtu.be

John Rhodes Website:

http://www.reptoids.com/index.htm#indexwelcome

In Conclusion:

By carefully considering just the evidence presented within the first few comments of this thread, one can quickly come to the realization the Reptoid Anunnaki:

• Have had a presence on this planet predating the emergence of Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
• Were the genetic manipulators who created Humanity.
• Have used advanced technologies on the Mass of Humanity in order to maintain control.
• Continue to maintain this control through the Global Elite, whom now have possession of these advanced technologies.
• And most importantly, why there will never be a complete disclosure until this charade is fully exposed.

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This thread is really worth a bump

How curious... I have just listened to this interview of Jim Marrs and Mauro Biglino on Paradigm Unhinged:

http://irnfiles.com/audio/PDUBiglinoandMars.mp3

It definately is related to this thread.

It's interesting that this thread has manifested at this time.
The Annunaki and Reptilians have long been a subject for Conspiracy Theorists, and I have no doubt at all they were here and may still be here.
Whether they are still physically here or not, their influence remains, without a doubt.
Two threads that have re-sparked my interest in this subject are the Chris Thomas thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...811#post761811
and the members-only Simon Parkes thread at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...d-other-aliens.
Chris Thomas, who claims he can read the Akashic Records, says that Sitchin's version of the Annunaki's history was planted by the Annunaki themselves, though he doesn't deny their presence here.
He says that a group of Annunaki came to Earth not too long ago and went back in time to plant those records so that humanity in this time would believe them to be our Creator Gods, enabling them to control us and take over the planet.
But they got trapped there and so had to remain, and thus did create a real history as well.
Simon Parkes says that what Sitchin recorded was mainly accurate with one big exception: the Annunaki did not bio-engineer the human race.

I think there is ample evidence of other ET races who have been here and have no doubt had a hand in the evolution of human DNA, so that makes sense to me, also because the Annunaki records show no evidence of other ET races here, and that is a very big omission, which raises a lot of questions about the accuracy of those records.
Thomas says the Annunaki ( he calls them the Velon) and the Reptilians are not one and the same, though their agendas, of course are similar.

If our own present day historians are fabricating a false history for us in our textbooks, there's certainly reason to believe that E.T.s with a controlling agenda may have been doing the same all along.
I hope this new information will help to sort out the truth from the fabrications.
Sorting the truth out from the fiction is going to be an ongoing challenge, it seems.
Perhaps a lot more of us are going to have to learn how to read the Akashic Records before we can be assured of what is our true history.
Of course, the subject of time lines makes it all way more complex, and for me, that's where comprehension begins to unravel.

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How curious... I have just listened to this interview of Jim Marrs and Mauro Biglino on Paradigm Unhinged:

http://irnfiles.com/audio/PDUBiglinoandMars.mp3

It definitely is related to this thread.

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Thank you MorningSong for bringing Jim Marrs to our attention. I've been an avid supporter of Mr. Marrs' work all the way back to his exposé on the Kennedy assassination.

You can be double-sure when Jim says, "we've been lied to". The evidence will indicate everything we have ever been told is a LIE.

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Chris Thomas, who claims he can read the Akashic Records, says that Sitchin's version of the Annunaki's history was planted by the Annunaki themselves, though he doesn't deny their presence here. He says that a group of Annunaki came to Earth not too long ago and went back in time to plant those records so that humanity in this time would believe them to be our Creator Gods, enabling them to control us and take over the planet..
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Simon Parkes says that what Sitchin recorded was mainly accurate with one big exception: the Anunnaki did not bio-engineer the human race.

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I don't intend this reply to sound argumentative, however, there are several points you made that are just not supported by the evidence.

If one were to take the time and listen to what Gerald Clark is saying in the few interviews that were posted early in this thread, one will discover the records that Sitchin was interpreting have been scrutinized by scholars the world over and their conclusions are very much in sync with Zecharia's translations. [The major problem occurs when one looks at Sitchin's interpretations of those translations. Academic science refuses to see an 'ancient alien' interpretation in any records from antiquity.] These same translated records are derived from numerous sources from antiquity lending credibility to the "real" nature of their existence.

In his book, Clark follows the evolution of the Anunnaki gods through the emerging cultures in the [Middle East] and shows how individuals (such as Enlil) morphed later in history into gods of other names (A.K.A.). Clark is very thorough in his research leaving little doubt, in theology, there is an evidential trail leading all the back to the gods of Summer.

This notion that they were "planted" is a fabrication of some individual's telepathically implanted thoughts. All one need do is listen to what Dr. Barrie Tower is saying in the few interviews posted earlier in this thread, and one will realize the ability to manipulate a population with telepathically implanted thoughts is a reality the Global Elite now possess and use on the Mass of Humanity. It is not a far stretch of the imagination to come upon the realization this technology has been used since the Dawn of Man by those who control the Masses.

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Sorting the truth out from the fiction is going to be an ongoing challenge, it seems.

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Like Jim Marrs, I tend to follow the evidence, onawah.

Thank you for your input, I was just recently made aware of the Parkes thread, and had no knowledge of the Thomas thread.

I wasn't really trying to make points, Observer, just relaying some information related to this topic, particularly since it is interesting new info to Avalon on the subject of the Annunaki (i.e. the Simon Parkes threads and the Chris Thomas thread.)
If you think the info is wrong, that's fine, of course, but I'm not sure you understood what I wrote.
(And I have to confess that I need to go back and read both threads over again to make sure I've got it all right. I would welcome your input on those threads, if you read them, as the Annunaki have always been a subject of interest to me.)

It's important to remember that what Chris Thomas said is that the Annunaki who reportedly went back in time to plant the false story about being our Creator Gods were also unwittingly trapped in time when they went back to do that.
And so, naturally, they were forced to remain here and therefore DID create a real history.
Thomas just said that the history as it was recorded wasn't necessarily what really happened--not that they weren't really here and active.
I'm sure he went into more detail in his books, but I haven't read them, just what's been posted the in video interviews and transcribed into the thread.

Though as I see it, it makes sense that if they were in control of what was being recorded as history, they certainly could have altered that history to say anything they wanted to.
Whether they did or not, I don't know.
We all have our own theories and our own ways of collating and interpreting the evidence from various sources.

I agree that theories such as Thomas's could be implanted, just as Sitchin's ideas about what the records said could have been implanted.
But again, I personally think that there have been many ET races who have been here and possibly contributed their DNA to our species, and I think there is evidence to that effect.
So I doubt that we are solely the Annunaki's creation, though they certainly may have had a hand in it.
The other races may not have felt such a strong need to leave traces of their identities as the Annunaki did, so perhaps the Annunaki tried to take credit for some of the other things that other ETs did here over time as well.

And again, I believe Simon Parkes said that the Sumerian records were accurate, except for the part about the Annunaki bio-engineering humankind.
I would have to check to see if he said that Sitchin's interpretations in particular were wrong or the records about the bio-engineering themselves were falsified, but the point he was making was that the Annunaki did not bio-engineer us, and they didn't want us to know that because they fancied playing the role of Creator Gods.

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It's wonderful that you've brought these issues up, onawah, because it gives me the opportunity to express what might be considered a radical interpretation of the evidence. This comment is not intended to prove any particular point, it is rather offered as a suggestion of an alternate point of view.

First, allow me to state, I'm among those who don't trust the accuracy of any implanted thoughts.

It is apparent from the historic record, dating back to the Dawn of Man, that our thoughts are being skillfully manipulated. I purposely mentioned Cayce in the OP so this fact of reality could be pointed-out sometime within this thread. However, the record doesn't start with Cayce, it begins with the prophets of antiquity. Cayce is an excellent example of how Truth can be skillfully manipulated, because most of what Cayce revealed was undeniable.

When a species is capable of moving in-and-out of this dimension (this particular reality), and that species has an agenda of controlling the Mass of Humanity, the foundations of the control mechanisms must be cleverly constructed lies. it is important to note a good bit of revelation gleaned from channeling is rock-solid Truth. It is through the clever manipulation of Truth that the best LIE is contrived. They are very clever at what they do.

Next, let's address the issue of text manipulation and time traveling. The records from antiquity gleaned from around the globe, from nearly every culture, indicate some god created mankind. This is no coincidence.

None of these mythologies say specifically how this was done. It's only when one applies the 'ancient alien' hypothesis to the interpretation of these mythologies that one can gain a more contemporary meaning from these translated text. This 'interpretation' technique is what Sitchin has been accused of doing by the traditional scientific community. It is only through accepting an alternative interpretation of these records from antiquity that one can develop an alternate understanding of the evidence.

If an hyperdimensional species were capable of traveling back in time (purely an hypothetical notion), then it would have been necessary for that species to travel back in time continuously to alter textual records throughout history, and around the globe - continuously.

Now, if as you say, these Anunnaki did get trapped in time when they went back, and if that did happen the first time they went back, than they would have been around continuously to do the manipulating, throughout recorded history. That would, of course, make these Anunnaki a part of our history, just as the record indicates.

No matter how one looks at it, these Reptoid Anunnaki have been manipulating the Mass of Humanity since the Dawn of Man. The evidence also suggests this control continues to this day.

And, the historic records indicate these same species of hyperdimensional Reptoids genetically altered Homo Sapiens Sapiens into existence. This is a modern interpretation of the ancient records

Thank you for your continued interest in this thread.

Greetings Observer. :wave:

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It's wonderful that you've brought these issues up, onawah, because it gives me the opportunity to express what might be considered a radical interpretation of the evidence. This comment is not intended to prove any particular point, it is rather offered as a suggestion of an alternate point of view.

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Interpretations of evidence and alternative points of view is why we are all here, yes?

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First, allow me to state, I'm among those who don't trust the accuracy of any implanted thoughts.

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Hmmm...implanted thoughts. Are you speaking of random thoughts we humans have on our own or are you referring to channeled messages?

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It is apparent from the historic record, dating back to the Dawn of Man, that our thoughts are being skillfully manipulated. I purposely mentioned Cayce in the OP so this fact of reality could be pointed-out sometime within this thread. However, the record doesn't start with Cayce, it begins with the prophets of antiquity. Cayce is an excellent example of how Truth can be skillfully manipulated, because most of what Cayce revealed was undeniable.

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Which historic record are you referring to and when was the "Dawn of Man?"

Are you stating that Cayce was manipulated? He's been called a psychic and an Akashic reader. There is some question as to whether or not his "readings" were manipulated, not by implanted thoughts but, by the fact that he "channeled" his information with trances. The "We have the body..." statement prior to his readings is/was a cause for concern. If he did, indeed, have a connection to the Akashic (as many do...Mona Wind, Aingeal Rose O'Grady, Chris Thomas, etc...), it is possible that he was interfered with.

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When a species is capable of moving in-and-out of this dimension (this particular reality), and that species has an agenda of controlling the Mass of Humanity, the foundations of the control mechanisms must be cleverly constructed lies. it is important to note a good bit of revelation gleaned from channeling is rock-solid Truth. It is through the clever manipulation of Truth that the best LIE is contrived. They are very clever at what they do.

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What if all channeling (except soul-to-psychic-to-soul communication) is corrupted disinformation?

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Next, let's address the issue of text manipulation and time traveling. The records from antiquity gleaned from around the globe, from nearly every culture, indicate some god created mankind. This is no coincidence.

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What if...our creator is not a "God" in a religious sense but an "It", conducting an experiment?

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None of these mythologies say specifically how this was done.

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That's because no one leaving behind the "records" knew. They could only speculate.

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It's only when one applies the 'ancient alien' hypothesis to the interpretation of these mythologies that one can gain a more contemporary meaning from these translated text. This 'interpretation' technique is what Sitchin has been accused of doing by the traditional scientific community. It is only through accepting an alternative interpretation of these records from antiquity that one can develop an alternate understanding of the evidence.

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What if Sitchin didn't misinterpret anything? What if he translated, word-for-word, exactly what was on the cuniform tablets but, that what was on the tablets is a lie/obfuscation? He merely read the book to us, not wrote it...

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If an hyperdimensional species were capable of traveling back in time (purely an hypothetical notion), then it would have been necessary for that species to travel back in time continuously to alter textual records throughout history, and around the globe - continuously.

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That all depends upon how far textual history goes back and how far back in time they went.

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Now, if as you say, these Anunnaki did get trapped in time when they went back, and if that did happen the first time they went back, than they would have been around continuously to do the manipulating, throughout recorded history. That would, of course, make these Anunnaki a part of our history, just as the record indicates.

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That also all depends upon how many Annunaki time traveled. It also depends upon whether or not anyone could see them, hear them or interact with them. What if just a couple of them went back in time, possibly surprised that it became a one-way trip, and "dictated" a story to a scribe, hoping humans would "discover" historical writings and "believe" they were true? What if the Annunaki are, for the most part, eternal, and the ones who got trapped hung around to observe, unable to do much of anything?

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No matter how one looks at it, these Reptoid Anunnaki have been manipulating the Mass of Humanity since the Dawn of Man. The evidence also suggests this control continues to this day.

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What if Annunaki are not "reptoid" in appearance? Did Sitchin translate them is "reptoid?" If he did, could that be part of the deception of the story?

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And, the historic records indicate these same species of hyperdimensional Reptoids genetically altered Homo Sapiens Sapiens into existence. This is a modern interpretation of the ancient records.

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What if Homo Sapiens Sapiens were, indeed, genetically altered/advanced but the Annunaki had absolutely nothing to do with that...just want you to believe they did?

What if reptoids/reptillians are no longer in our solar system/universe?

Onawah was merely pointing you to other information. Perhaps you could do more research on Chris Thomas, the Velon, the 14th Faction and the Human Plan. We are being manipulated but, perhaps, not in the way you might think.

Also, keep in mind, we humans are far greater than we realize and there are those that would love nothing better than to keep us distracted, stupid and afraid.

~FireHorse :roll:

Another what if is "what if the Annunaki are not Reptilians, but have only been confused with Reptilians because the two have similar agendas planned for Earth?

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There is no need to address each of your questions, FireHorse.

I read into what you are commenting, a state of great confusion. Confusion has always been the agenda. They are very clever at what they do....

Semantics has been the primary cause of confusion since the Dawn of Man (= the creation of Homo Sapiens Sapiens). Different words used to express an identical concept has been the root cause of every conflict ever waged on this planet. This - by the way - is all by design.

It really is all much simpler than your questions would suggest. Many different words have been used to express very similar concepts. So allow me to address some of these concepts so that we all understand each other better:

• Telepathically Implanted Thoughts = channeling = prophecy = remote viewing = seer = clairvoyants = oracles = transmitters = hearing voices = revelation, or a myriad of other names applied to the same process. These are all describing a very personal experience one has within their individual brain. These are only experiences one can express to another individual through subjective interpretations. Faith in the prophet is the only way one can justify the information. It is foundational to the construction of a lie for the individual receiving the information to be given the maximum amount of Truth in order to support the manipulation.

If one does enough research into the evidence, one will eventually come to realize, most of what is being telepathically implanted is manipulated information. To build one's understanding on Faith is to dwell on a slippery slope. Always follow the evidence because the key to the Truth can always be discovered there.

• 'Hyperdimensional entity' is a bit more difficult to consolidate. Consider this, Astral Plain = Akashic Records = fourth dimension = Field of Infinite Potential = Quantum Field = spirit world. One might even consider including the concepts of Heaven and Hell into this consolidation. Any entity capable of traveling in-and-out of reality outside of our particular reality and (in some form) manifesting itself within this particular reality is an hyperdimensional entity. Ghosts, Angles, Archons, Demons, and hyperdimensional reptoid aliens would all than have a very similar meaning.

When communicating a concept, it is important to discern through the semantics being used. One must use their own intellect to interpret the meaning intended. When a question arises, it is always best to follow the evidence. Much evidence was presented in the earlier comments of this thread. If one were to review these links, many of the questions being proffered would be answered.

Thank you for your participation.

i believe this material and input is note worthy into being made a permanent sticky thread :thumb:!

What about reading the Akashic Records, Observer?
The Records are supposed to be well protected so that they cannot be changed, but do you think those who are attempting to read them can be interfered with, so that they come away with wrong information?
It would be interesting to do some cross-referencing with Turiya's thread about Chris Thomas, a reader of the Akashic at:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...987#post763987
We know that the controllers will plant an important untruth within a lot of facts in order to better fool the more discerning.
Our task now, it seems, is to become discerning enough that we can sort out those planted untruths from the facts, so we can still get the whole, undistored picture.
It's a time consuming process involving comparing and contrasting information from many sources, but it's what we've got, and it seems to be working slowly but surely.
It would be really nice if we had some kind of program in which we could enter all the info from all the sources and line it all up to make comparing and contrasting more streamlined.
Problems arise when people get emotionally invested in the particular material they are researching, and resist any contradicting theories gleaned by others, from other sources.
A good job for AI, but no doubt even that could be interfered with...

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Another what if is "what if the Annunaki are not Reptilians, but have only been confused with Reptilians because the two have similar agendas planned for Earth?

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Thank you again onawah for allowing me the opportunity to express my observations.

Allow me to mention, I've been a member of Avalon back into the old Avalon website. I have always been "observer". Anyone wishing to view any of my comments need only go to that link on my homepage. The message I've reported in most of my comments has always been supported by hours of research. I rarely make a comment that is unsupported by documentation. I can only lead a horse to water....

Allow me also to inform the members who don't know me that I began my investigation into this phenomenon at the age of 14 with an high school term paper on Edgar Cayce. I have spent my entire adult life subscribing to every sort of channeled message, and later, investigating the phenomenon. I am now in my 67th year, and consider the observations I make to be well informed.

The few links that were presented in the beginning comments of this thread represent far less than one percent of the links that could have been offered. There is a library of thousands of hours of research at my disposal.

With that said, allow me to suggest, if one is investigating a phenomenon, the evidence will usually lead one to the proper conclusions.

Without hard physical evidence it is very difficult to determine the validity of an individual's personal subjective experience. I am speaking of evidence such as an implant, either removed or x-rayed; a second party witness to the event; physical artifacts returned after an alleged visitation; i.e., any sort of objective physical evidence to corroborate the message.

Telepathically implanted thoughts have been shown (in this thread alone) to be the result of an advanced electromagnetic technology.

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“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” - Arthur C. Clarke

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Any telepathically implanted message is suspect because of the nature of those manipulating the Astral Plane (see definition here). How, one may ask, are these Akashic Records sealed? .... by the report of some channeler? .... from the interpretation of a telepathically implanted thought? .... perhaps from some individual selling seminars on the topic.

One need only review the vast reservoir of evidence available to conclude this telepathic manipulation emanates essentially from one source. The evidence indicates this source is an hyperdimensional Reptoid life-form. A thorough review of Gerald Clark's research is conclusive enough to show a continuous agenda to control Humanity since the Dawn of Man. Clark's research is conclusive in naming these hyperdimensional Reptoid life-forms as The Anunnaki.

Please, to all the members, do the research....

Might explaine why the Gieko Gekko Is so popular. Think about that. Or even why Kermit was so well loved.

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This is also an excellent video, thank you heyakoh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o8tYYkhU8gU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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The funny thing is - Denise does look a bit like the 'anunnaki' here in the picture before you play the video :D

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Thank you for your effort in promoting an open dialogue between threads, onawah, but the OP of the Chris Thomas thread is not interested in hearing what was described as a, "contentious cursory viewpoint". I will do as was requested, and keep my comments out of that thread.

I would like to make one point regarding this issue, however.

Throughout my entire adult life, I have subscribed to many diverse telepathically implanted messages. I confess, I was totally taken-in by the magnitude of the apparent wealth of knowledge contained within many of these chaanneled messages. It was after over thirty years of subscription to these messages that I began to realize an agenda at work. It has been only in the past twenty years (or so) that I began investigating this agenda.

It merely took a "cursory" review of turiya's thread to realize the messages were coming from an individual making the claim to be a "remote viewer". This is nothing more than a channeler wishing to obscure the identity of his sources to the unwitting reader.

Within the art of remote viewing, as practiced by the Global Elite, there is an entire team of viewers, all working in unison on what is termed a "target". This is the textbook meaning of the term "remote viewer". This team approach is necessary to come any where close to accuracy because what they are viewing is a Field of Infinite Potential, otherwise known as the Quantum Field, or the Astral Plane, or the Akashic Records. No two individuals will ever get the same interpretation.

As soon as one determines Mr. Thomas' messages are founded within a source of questionable value, one must assess the information as questionable. One must also question why Mr. Thomas' mentors are confusing the available evidence with the addition of a pantheon of new species. There is no archeological record of these Velon aliens. Are they the manufacture of Mr. Thomas' imagination? One must also question why Mr. Thomas is vilifying all those individuals who are making an honest attempt to expose the available evidence related to these phenomena. Only information that can be founded in some sort of objective evidence, should ever be used to turn a theory into a fact.

Mr. Thomas presents an interesting theory, but without proof or evidence, that's all it is....

For a greater understanding of what the Akashic Records really are please review this thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...s-the-hologram

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There is no need to address each of your questions, FireHorse.

I read into what you are commenting, a state of great confusion. Confusion has always been the agenda. They are very clever at what they do....

Semantics has been the primary cause of confusion since the Dawn of Man (= the creation of Homo Sapiens Sapiens). Different words used to express an identical concept has been the root cause of every conflict ever waged on this planet. This - by the way - is all by design.

It really is all much simpler than your questions would suggest. Many different words have been used to express very similar concepts. So allow me to address some of these concepts so that we all understand each other better:

• Telepathically Implanted Thoughts = channeling = prophecy = remote viewing = seer = clairvoyants = oracles = transmitters = hearing voices = revelation, or a myriad of other names applied to the same process. These are all describing a very personal experience one has within their individual brain. These are only experiences one can express to another individual through subjective interpretations. Faith in the prophet is the only way one can justify the information. It is foundational to the construction of a lie for the individual receiving the information to be given the maximum amount of Truth in order to support the manipulation.

If one does enough research into the evidence, one will eventually come to realize, most of what is being telepathically implanted is manipulated information. To build one's understanding on Faith is to dwell on a slippery slope. Always follow the evidence because the key to the Truth can always be discovered there.

• 'Hyperdimensional entity' is a bit more difficult to consolidate. Consider this, Astral Plain = Akashic Records = fourth dimension = Field of Infinite Potential = Quantum Field = spirit world. One might even consider including the concepts of Heaven and Hell into this consolidation. Any entity capable of traveling in-and-out of reality outside of our particular reality and (in some form) manifesting itself within this particular reality is an hyperdimensional entity. Ghosts, Angles, Archons, Demons, and hyperdimensional reptoid aliens would all than have a very similar meaning.

When communicating a concept, it is important to discern through the semantics being used. One must use their own intellect to interpret the meaning intended. When a question arises, it is always best to follow the evidence. Much evidence was presented in the earlier comments of this thread. If one were to review these links, many of the questions being proffered would be answered.

Thank you for your participation.

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I wasn't requesting that each of my questions be addressed...a good portion of which was rhetorical. My point in posting was to offer additional information. And, I'm certainly not confused. Curious, yes. Confused, no.

And, speaking of confusion, the Akashic has nothing what so ever to do with hyperdimensional entities, astral "planes", the fourth dimension, the spirit world or whatever the heck the field of infinite potential is (I feel like I just waded thru word soup). Think library with many floors (an over-simplified description, yes, but accurate).

I am fascinated that you have managed to lump channeling & remote viewing into the same bucket with "implanted thoughts" & hearing voices. Granted, most channeling these days is disinformation but, remote viewing is an entirely different mechanism (transmitting instead of receiving). And, implanted thoughts & hearing voices is more of a localized thing (government; MK Ultra, anyone?) than an ET thing.

*sigh*
I won't post any further than this. Onawah and I, both, have attempted to provide more information to assist. The Annunaki thing, in and of itself, is a HUGE disinformation story. They are NOT reptilian in appearance and they did NOT genetically alter humans. They are one of six races of the Velon and they are interfering with our evolution...just not genetically. Politically, yes. Genetically, no. And, we are partially to blame for allowing them to remain. Again, we are more powerful than we realize. We just need to get off of our collective asses and clean house.

I'm out.

~FireHorse

I hope that sharing information will be the focus for this thread.
There is too much bickering because of different pet theories and agendas on forums, but when it comes to such vital info about our history, present and future, we just can't afford to let egos get in the way.
It seems a good possibility that even some of the most convincing evidence can and may have been forged.
And information without physical proof that could be considered nothing but hearsay can still provide wonderful leads for further and original research and material for thought if it comes from a source that we consider to be reliable, such as Simon Parkes.
I refer you to my last post # 1397 and the whole Simon Parkes thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...256#post765256
...which is another good one to cross-reference with this one and the Chris Thomas thread (if we can just please agree to disagree, while still continuing to share!) :nod:

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In this thread, we appreciate the comments of each individual, FireHorse.

My reply was in no way intended to insult your understanding. What I was attempting to impart in my words is that we are all confused - by design.

Lumping all those phenomena together into one generalization may seem to some as an oversimplification, but simplification is exactly what is required for understanding. Complexity of definitions describing one overall general process is what causes the confusion. The confusion is by design.

Perhaps I should have gone into greater detail in my comment (it was made with a generalization intended). It was a reply to you, however, and that is how I addressed it.

Let's revisit the issue of semantics. The record indicates that all language was manipulated for the sole purpose of confusion:

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King James Bible - Acts 2:4:
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I quote scripture here only because it is a part of the record. This is the kind of evidence I point to. There is no doubt the Bible is one of the biggest stack of lies ever compiled. It is a perfect example of how Undeniable Truth is twisted into a Lie using telepathically implanted thoughts as the medium.

Filling one with the Holy Spirit, is simply another way of saying 'telepathically implanting thoughts'. Since there really is no way to objectively prove the structure of what is termed the Akashic Records, one must first realize these descriptions have all come from implanted thoughts, thereby justifying the generalization.

The Astral Plain is nothing more that a Field of Infinite Potential. Reading this field has infinitely possible interpretations. Hyperdimensional Reptoid Aliens have coopted the interpretation of this field using advanced electromagnetic technology - since the Dawn of Man.

Semantics is a situation that was intentionally included into the mix for the sole purpose of confusion.

As for, lumping all those phenomena into one basket, one must learn to discern between what is real and what is imagined.

It is important to always look at the evidence. Believing something is real because someone proclaims it to be so is called faith. Belief systems based on faith have no place in an investigation designed to seek the truth.

The members will be sorry to see you leave the discussion....

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I hope that sharing information will be the focus for this thread.
There is too much bickering because of different pet theories and agendas on forums, but when it comes to such vital info about our history, present and future, we just can't afford to let egos get in the way.
It seems a good possibility that even some of the most convincing evidence can and may have been forged.
And information without physical proof that could be considered nothing but hearsay can still provide wonderful leads for further and original research and material for thought if it comes from a source that we consider to be reliable, such as Simon Parkes.
I refer you to my last post # 1397 and the whole Simon Parkes thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...256#post765256
...which is another good one to cross-reference with this one and the Chris Thomas thread (if we can just please agree to disagree, while still continuing to share!) :nod:

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Welcome, again onawah.

So, if you review my reply to FireHorse, hopefully you will better understand the point of my comments.

I am attempting to impart on those members, who are open to an alternate point-of-view, a form of wisdom gleaned from a life time of investigation. I am no spring chicken to this 'telepathically implanted messages' phenomenon. Whenever I see the interpretations of these messages being heralded as Truth, it is my obligation as an observer to point-out the inconsistencies.

Do you really believe Simon will be open to a cross-examination? I have only a cursory understanding of his message, as it has been just recently that I was introduced to his thread.

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"....information without physical proof that could be considered nothing but hearsay can still provide wonderful leads for further and original research and material for thought if it comes from a source that we consider to be reliable...."

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Throughout the ages there have been a myriad of individuals who were considered "reliable" with their interpretations. I alone, spent over thirty years of my adult life subscribing to the interpretations of channels whom I considered "reliable". A great deal of what I understand came from insights reported from reliable channels. However, you will always find my comments leading to the physical evidence, for it is only through an investigation of the evidence that we can declare a verdict of True or False, which can ultimately only be a personal understanding.

Within my revelation, after a lifetime of research into the phenomenon, these messages are being cleverly manipulated for the sole purpose of keeping the Mass of Humanity confused - just like in the example that was referenced concerning the Holy Bible.

There is a grander scheme at work here.... far greater than anyone can imagine.

They are very clever at what they do....

Simon is not a channeler, Observer.
He is a lifelong Contactee, but a very unique one.
If you watch one or two of the main video interviews with him, I think you will understand why.
And you may pick up--as many of us on Avalon have--from his manner, his groundedness, his kindness, his bravery, that he is not on an ego trip, he is authentic and sincere.
And I think it would be hard to fool him, nor, I imagine, will he stand long for foolishness or ego trips.
He is a busy man, but has very kindly agreed to join us here to answer our questions and share his views with us, not only on the two threads here:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...----Interviews
(for the public--best place to start, for the video interviews)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...kes+interviews
(for Avalonians only--best place for Qs & As dialogue with Simon)


...but in PMs as well, and he is going to do an interview with Avalonian Karelia in December for us.
He doesn't have any books or readings to sell, he's not getting paid for interacting with us here.
He lives modestly, but he has a lot of responsibility already as a council member for the city he lives in, in England.
He has to be careful not to say too much, because he is being monitored, of course.
But the fact that he is very open about his background (his grandfather was a high profile military Illuminati) as well as his Contact experiences, and is, at the same time, an active and popular politician in England--says a lot about him, I think you will agree.
Avalonians have been welcomed to ask him any questions we like, though to "cross examine" him might be less than courteous or respectful, I would think.
If you would like him to answer questions during the interview with Karelia, send your questions directly to her.
I'm not sure yet what form that will take--live chat, video, Skype, or whatever.
Please be aware that he is dyslexic and his time is limited, so with written questions, be brief and direct and expect the same, and please be understanding if his spelling, etc. is not perfect.
It would be good to take the time to watch some of the interviews and the Qs and As before you ask questions, to save everyone time.
I think you will find it a pursuit worthy of your time.

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*sigh*
I won't post any further than this. Onawah and I, both, have attempted to provide more information to assist. The Annunaki thing, in and of itself, is a HUGE disinformation story. They are NOT reptilian in appearance and they did NOT genetically alter humans. They are one of six races of the Velon and they are interfering with our evolution...just not genetically. Politically, yes. Genetically, no. And, we are partially to blame for allowing them to remain. Again, we are more powerful than we realize. We just need to get off of our collective asses and clean house.

I'm out.

~FireHorse

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I would like to put forth the notion that we should avoid pairing this thread and the thread on Chris Thomas. I view his information separate from everything else.

Not everybody on Avalon subscribes to what Chris Thomas is saying...including myself. I respect those who resonate with his information, but given the controversial nature of the material, I do not think it is wise to use his information as any form of finality on a subject.

I also think that it is unwise to speak of such matters such as who the Anunnaki really are with any degree of certainty. We simply do not know. There are so many conflicting viewpoints to know for sure.

I do welcome Chris Thomas's viewpoint, but I want to give people like Sitchin as much credence. I think that each may offer a piece of the puzzle, but we should not give all of our attention to one information source. :)

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Thank you for your effort in promoting an open dialogue between threads, onawah, but the OP of the Chris Thomas thread is not interested in hearing what was described as a, "contentious cursory viewpoint". I will do as was requested, and keep my comments out of that thread.

It merely took a "cursory" review of turiya's thread to realize the messages were coming from an individual making the claim to be a "remote viewer". This is nothing more than a channeler wishing to obscure the identity of his sources to the unwitting reader.

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I really had no desire to post here, again but, this needs to be addressed.

Observer, you were not asked to keep your comments out of the Chris Thomas (An Update On Our Evolution) thread. You are playing fast and loose with the facts. This is what was said:

Post #190

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With respect - if you want to partake in the conversation, here, then it is suggested you come up to speed, otherwise future posts that continually show a contentious cursory viewpoint may end up on the "ignore list".

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Your quote above, admitting that you only "glanced" at the thread, is the problem. You claim to do research. You claim to present alternative views. You present yourself as open-minded. Then, when offered dialogue on a thread that you didn't start and that contains ideas to which you are, clearly, unfamiliar with, you dismiss it, arrogantly, because you "think" you know what's going on. You have already stated that you knew nothing of Chris Thomas or Simon Parkes but, you've already formed opinions about them.

You were not asked to leave. You were asked to "get up to speed", i.e. do the research that you are so fond of referring to and demanding of others.

I have been doing some searches on your posts. You and I have stomped thru some of the same information. You have some very valid points and present valuable information. But, in the interest of fairness, please try to step outside of the Sitchin material. It is not the end-all, be-all of human history.

And, please, try to honestly consider that the Annunaki are but one faction of a larger race and that, possibly, their own information (their own history in their own solar system) has been carefully blended with ours to make it more plausible (remember your "...The best contrived LIE is the one constructed with the greatest amount of TRUTH..."). There are five other Velon races, the Hathor in particular, that are also causing problems. Look up "celestoriums"...

Ok. I've said my piece/peace. :peace:

~FireHorse

While everyone is clarifying their stand on these issues, I feel I need to make it clear that I am not convinced that anyone has the whole or wholly accurate picture when it comes to the Annunaki, the Velon, the Reptilians or any of the theories that are being put forth on Avalon about them by various sources, including info from Sitchin, Chris Thomas, Simon Parkes, etc. or the conclusions drawn by any Avalonians, for that matter.
I'm not on anyone's "side".
I am just interested in reviewing the information, comparing and contrasting notes, and letting everyone come to their own conclusions.
I very much appreciate anyone who is willing to engage in that kind of discussion.
Disagreements about who is right or wrong is not helpful in that process--no one is omniscient here, after all.
It's all controversial material that we are looking at.
I do agree that anyone who wishes to comment on whatever information is being discussed should have reviewed the information well enough so that their comments are worthy of consideration--otherwise, it is just a waste of everyone's time.

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I won't post any further than this. Onawah and I, both, have attempted to provide more information to assist. The Annunaki thing, in and of itself, is a HUGE disinformation story. They are NOT reptilian in appearance and they did NOT genetically alter humans. They are one of six races of the Velon and they are interfering with our evolution...just not genetically. Politically, yes. Genetically, no. And, we are partially to blame for allowing them to remain. Again, we are more powerful than we realize. We just need to get off of our collective asses and clean house.

I'm out.

~FireHorse

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I would like to put forth the notion that we should avoid pairing this thread and the thread on Chris Thomas. I view his information separate from everything else.

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I agree completely, Sam. This thread is a place where we can discuss objective physical evidence. The other threads, where this topic is being discussed, are using hear-say creations of individual's imaginations.

No arrogance intended, simply a statement of fact. (Sorry Sam if it appears like I'm using my reply to you as some sort of platform.)

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"I am just interested in reviewing the information, comparing and contrasting notes, and letting everyone come to their own conclusions."

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Thank you for your continued interest in the evidence, onawah. I respect your stated position, and I invite you to continue reviewing the documentation that is being offered in this thread.

Please don't interpret any of my comments as being arrogant. This simply is not the case. I speak from a perspective of years of experience.

In the trades, the master - the craftsman with the most experience - is given a certain amount of respect for his experience. Few journeymen regard these skills as an arrogance.

With that said, I would hope my interpretations within this thread are received with respect.

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Dear Mr. FireHorse,

I saw your comment #192 in the Chris Thomas Thread. I would not characterize your words as those one would use in promoting an open dialogue. Nor, would I interpreted what you have said in your latest comment in this thread as - informed.

Allow me to point-out some fundamental facts:

• This thread was linked into the Thomas Thread by a third party.
• I was compelled by that linking to make a comment.
• That comment stipulated to the fact that it was being made with only a "cursory" view of the data.
• I went on to reply to the OP's reply with more detail.
• This second comment was made after reviewing the first few pages of the thread, and concluding the information being discussed was the result of telepathically implanted thoughts.
• I have no desire to spend hours reading fiction. I have subscribed to channeled messages for over thirty years of my adult life, and know how to distinguish fact from fiction, as clearly stated in an earlier comment in this thread.
• The questions I asked in my second comment were valid questions based on the cursory review I had made to that point.
• turiya made my review of Chris Thomas' story a requirement for my further participation.
• Because of my disinterst in the Thomas story, I opted out of that thread.
• End of story.

You have chosen to banter about the forum an inaccuracy linking my previous calls for the members to "do the research" with what turiya is requiring of me in this case. When I ask members to "do the research" it is in reply to a member who has come into one of my threads of their own free will, and responded to a comment without researching what is being discussed. (I was compelled by linking to make a comment. There is a difference.)


You are welcome to continue commenting in this thread, but be advised, I will treat any of your further comments as hostile.

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I honor your observation, Onix, however, I see a woman with a seductive aura....

Regardless of how one views the interviewer, how does this affect the presentation of the interviewee, Gerald Clark - in any way?

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The evidence will show that the global elite have mastered the technique of mind manipulation through the process of implanting thoughts using advanced microwave technology.

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Yup. And there are those who believe that they can use this technology with benevolent intent to steer the collective towards a beneficial outcome. How those who believe this technology would be implemented for good must be really evolved spiritually and have access to all truths, thus they would be able to impart it on the rest of us and steer us towards this ultimate truth.

Ugg!

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Yup. And there are those who believe that they can use this technology with benevolent intent to steer the collective towards a beneficial outcome. How those who believe this technology would be implemented for good must be really evolved spiritually and have access to all truths, thus they would be able to impart it on the rest of us and steer us towards this ultimate truth.

Ugg!

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All, "if for the sake of just one righteous soul", right grip?

It appears as though the Kissinger/Brzezinski Cabal are those self appointed, "benevolent.... really evolved spiritually", Global Elite who have chosen to run the mind control machine by proxy for those Hyperdimensional Reptoid Anunnaki who have made use of this technology since the Dawn of Man - go figure.

....which begs the question, who gets to choose?

To the members:

• How do we trust the manipulated collapsing of the Quantum Field of Infinite Potential by any hyperdimensional entity on our behalf?
• How do we determine if any hyperdimensional entity has the best interest of Humanity as an agenda?
• Question even you own mental revelations, but always review with skepticism the revelations of another individual.
• ....And most importantly, always follow the evidence.

They Are Very Clever At What They Do....

[ Thank you grip, for your continuing support.]

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Yup. And there are those who believe that they can use this technology with benevolent intent to steer the collective towards a beneficial outcome. How those who believe this technology would be implemented for good must be really evolved spiritually and have access to all truths, thus they would be able to impart it on the rest of us and steer us towards this ultimate truth.

Ugg!

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Dear gripreaper,

Are you perhaps suggesting that one could fight those bastards with their own technology in the form of one's own highest vibrational frequency, or pure Consciousness?