"SET", the Egyptian God of Foreigners, Baphomet, and Entities Respected by Freemasonry

I was reading yesterday about the Seattle Fire in 1889. There really wasn't a whole lot of information on the specific topics I was searching, but I did come across a couple of Freemasonic newsletters that were fairly recent. I was trying to see what their attitudes were about the fire and whether they profited directly or not, or whether Masons from other towns profited while Seattle suffered.

One of the writers of this Masonic Seattle newsletter I mention made a reference to "setting his compass" at the end of one of his articles, but he chose to capitalize all letters in the word "SET". That was a bit weird. Why draw such attention to the word and all its letters, unless it has a double meaning?

Which leads me to some high school memories -- a friend who was a religious historian and AD&D buff told me once that Set was later considered the Egyptian personification of evil (after they started believing in a perfectly good father God). That's because early in their history, they were invaded by the Hyksos, and that foreign group insisted on establishing worship of Set, who also happened to be the Egyptian God of Foreigners. You can see why invaders would worship Set -- to intimidate the locals, right? It really scared the Egyptians when this "Antichrist" rolled into their cities and changed their religion... and unlike America, the invaders of Egypt were open about it and even brutal about it.

On that note, can you think of any particular groups on our small planet who define themselves by global proliferation, infiltration of the legal system, and corruption on such a widespread scale that even London (one of Masonry's seats of power, actually) is complaining about it?

Last month we heard a story about Scotland Yard -- they've been alerted to the fact that gangs have been recruiting police officers via their connections in the Freemasons in London.

A few years before that, we were watching footage of Anders Brievik killing a bunch of kids in Norway. He posted many pictures of himself proudly displaying his Freemason regalia. Is there a particular reason he chose to do that before killing all those people? And setting the bomb?

There is an Avalon user today who is really on my case about my examination of modern Freemasonry. He seems not to have read my threads about George Washington and my respect for him, General Montgomery and the corrupt Gates family who helped send him to his death, along with discrediting Benedict Arnold, whose grandfather was a colonial governor. He didn't see my reference to the book "Two Crowns for America", that I own a large collection of books on the subject of Masonry and other cults, etc.

I heard this funny saying once: first they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

I mentioned yesterday that in Seattle (late 1800s), the Chinese population had pretty much concluded the lion's share of railway work, and at this point they and the Africans in Seattle were barred from accessing jobs such the Longshoremen (notorious even today for their fraternal BS), builders, loggers, steelworkers, etc. And if that isn't sad enough, they even tried to deport the Chinese by force, by train and boat -- this is all true and documented. The Mayor didn't try to stop them even though he said he supported the rights of the foreigners. He was a talking head put in by the Masons too, most likely.

And a few years later, after a sheriff stopped the townspeople from hurting the Chinese and deporting them by force, the white people just burned the city and established a fire department completely under their control. You might not agree with my statement that they burned the town, but when you see that the fire chief was gone and that the mayor negligently blew up Colman block, allowing flames to consume the hill next to the waterfront, burning the poor business and home owners out like rats, you'll understand what I mean.

Back in 1666, Sir Christopher Wren was asked to plan the new city (London interior) within days of the huge conflagration that likely cremated thousands of poor people, who were undocumented by the murderous aristocrats. Even more damning was the fact that Sir Isaac Newton and Wren were both out of town when the fire went down. Safely away from the heat. Yet no one in London, except maybe some Jesuits in hiding, had more information that those two men on optics, propulsion, gravity, and all other known physical sciences.

Keep in mind that when the poor couldn't be blamed, that minorities were often blamed. Historians would recall perhaps the phenomenon of Fenian Fire prior to the burning of Seattle, and that in the initial reports, an Irishman was blamed for setting the blaze, then the people said it was a cabinet shop. Of course in London, they blamed a bakery.

Fenian Fire is a method of painting wet phosphor onto wallpaper, allowing it to dry, and thereby catch fire by oxidation -- the perfect way to initiate an arson. And all the alchemical masters and Masons would have known this, although it was blamed on the Irish always. American should also remember the "NINA" phenomenon in New York City, meaning "No Irish Need Apply". Not to mention Italians. Meaning Indians, Blacks, Asians, Irish, Italians, etc. were unable to find suitable work, housing, legal help, or anything at all, while the Mason gang was running everything.

Sorry but it's true. My great-grandfather joined a lodge way way before I was born. I was told that he went to make the appearance, but did not agree with much of what went on in there, and in his later years he stopped attending, although they still solicited him for money. Which is the bottom line, ultimately. They also solicited me for money, after Comcast changed my phone number without permission three years ago.

Then I read this week that very little of that money goes to the kids -- a newspaper did the story and realized, gosh, there are charities in the USA that don't give a suitable percentage of the cash to those in need. The real need is a believable front -- why else would all the Shriner hospitals and such have gone out of business, if the Masons really cared about the kids.

Will Eisner cared, I think Disney cared, George Washington cared a lot, but I don't think these modern Masons give a damn about anything but their monuments, rituals, exclusive standards, legal freebies, drug connections, etc. Prove me wrong. Oh wait, they live in darkness, remember? They can't prove ****, because they can't talk about it.

Much like I hate and oppose the the National Security Act of 1947 for establishing a cabal as military authority (Air Force and CIA), and later allowing for the killing of one of our best presidents, who also opposed what he called the "Monolithic and Ruthless Conspiracy" of the NWO and the Masons who killed his ass, I hate any organization that demands silence from people who call themselves moral.

The fact that the Masons respect gods such as Set, the Egyptian God of Foreigners whom they grew to absolutely hate, the brother-killer and slayer of Osiris the Father, is enough proof for me.

Anyone ever read about the "Set Animal"? Because Set's head doesn't resemble anything known to have lived in Egypt at the time of his inception, scholars don't agree on what it's supposed to represent. To me, it looks like a cross between an anteater, a giraffe, and a goat or pig. Others say he resembles Thoth's beak, but in black and with strange flat-topped horns.

We know very well the face of another horned God in America. And the Masons deny his worship, yet the rumor persists. He is called "Baphomet". He is the spitting image of Seth, also known as Set and sometimes associated with Thoth, although the crane-headed god was gentle and wise, not a warrior or murderer. So the Hermes connection to Baphomet is complete crap. Although his symbol is the twin serpents on his crotch, which happens to be the manner of scepter carried by Hermes and Mercury, if I am not mistaken.

Before our country started talking openly about possibly going to war with Syria, our president signed the new WTC tower Masonic monument in NYC, blessing the efforts of the USA, no matter how bloody or misplaced. Prior to 9/11, many agreed that the twin towers were a Jewish symbol, or even occult -- it's not secret that New York City resembles Stonehenge itself, even down to the way that the sun shines through it. This was all planned by the builders, just like the occult designs built into New Haven, and Washington D.C...

On the forum Abovetopsecret, I saw quite a few threads on Masonry a few years back. Most of the people who tried to talk about that stuff got harassed horribly by Masons on the forum. I know this because they said so, and use the emblems in their avvies. Lately, though, some of that has died off, and the members are able to discuss conspiracies of all types without worrying too much about trouble. Unless of course they link to personal research, which sucks and is the reason I left. I don't do group think. I have to make up my own mind. And unfortunately all I have to go by is the "profane gaze of the uninitiated" and the "lips of the traitor".

And that's fine with me, because people have hated Americans for a while and have wanted our country to fail. Their greatest tool in this is racism. Without racism, our country would be the greatest on earth without question. That is the key to unity, accepting your brother and sister, and telling the truth, even behind closed doors and in your inner circles.

There are people who know.

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Some Google terms:

London Freemason Infiltration
Black Master Mason murdered
Hermetic Arts Stolen From Africa
Mockery of the Queen of Sheba
The Morgan Affair
The Anti-Masonic Party
Murder of Abraham Lincoln (low degree Mason like my great grandfather)
Murder of JFK (Catholic secret society hater who spoke the truth)
Establishment of CIA
CIA headquarters in Mason lodges
Filming TV shows about Murder in Lodges (Murder she wrote etc)
Hollywood and Freemasonry
Michael Jackson Freemasonry exposure

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Grand Master shot dead while cleaning outside Masonic lodge | Mail ...
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Daily Mail
Aug 6, 2012 - Grand Master Jerry Sears was shot once in the neck just before 3.30pm ... The killing of a Masonic leader in front a Detroit lodge in broad daylight has .... Ireland Baldwin gets make-up done wearing TINY black strappy leotard ...

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Historically the Masons wouldn't let women or Blacks join white lodges, and blacks are still more comfortable in Prince Hall lodges for that reason, not to mention the KKK connection to southern Masons.

I think even Obama is a Prince Hall Mason. Poor guy... look up the Orange NJ Black Lodge George Washington Bible ritual before Obama was elected.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_hall

Prince Hall (1735 – 1807)[1] was an African American noted as a tireless abolitionist, for his leadership in the free black community in Boston, and as the founder of Prince Hall Masonry.

Hall tried to gain New England’s enslaved and free blacks a place in Freemasonry, education and the military, which were some of the most crucial spheres of society in his time. Hall is considered the founder of “Black Freemasonry” in the United States, known today as Prince Hall Freemasonry. Hall formed the African Grand Lodge of North America. Prince Hall was unanimously elected its Grand Master and served until his death in 1807.

He lobbied for education rights for black children and was active in the back-to-Africa movement. Many historians regard Prince Hall as one of the prominent African-Americans during the early years of the United States.

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Freemasons supported Apartheid in South Africa and had interest only in trade routes, white power, etc. until last century.

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http://aasrnys.blogspot.com/2009/09/...lutionary.html

In 1794, the Lodge began operating again, riding as it were, the increased interest in Freemasonry universally occurring across the globe. As South African Freemasonry developed it did so in a unique way for the Grand Lodge of the Netherlands, the Grand Lodge of England, the Grand Lodge of Ireland and the Grand Lodge of Scotland all established lodges in the South African colonies. The presence of numerous Grand Lodges is in of itself not unique, but what is unique is that these Grand Lodges were all mutually respected in South Africa and even shared jurisdictions and constitutional elements, at least for some time. With the British influx “of English-speaking members into the lodge (they) brought tension and an inevitable split, when English members broke away to form the first permanent English Lodge in the Cape.”[7]

The ‘Great Trek’ and other internal South African tensions greatly hurt the Craft, which was further aggravated by the problem of which language to embrace in Lodge. The period of Masonic unrest was short lived for the discovery of gold and diamonds improved the situation for most white South Africans, and thus for the Masons in the colony as well. This optimistic upturn led for the proposal to establish a Grand Lodge of South Africa, but many years would pass for this to occur. It wasn’t until “the emergence of the Afrikaner nationalism as a dominant political force in South Africa in 1948, (that) the movement among Freemasons for a South African Grand Lodge again gained momentum…when it did come, it is actually attributed to a combination of events enacted in the Masonic Grand Lodges of Europe, and not associated initially directly in any manner to local pressure.”[8] These reasons, which center on the chaos in Europe wrought by WWII, while being relevant to the discussion at hand exceed the limits of this endeavor. It is therefore significant only to note that the Grand Lodge of South Africa received its independence and Masonic authority form the Grand East of the Netherlands following WWII, and up until today the 4 Grand Lodges of South Africa, England, Scotland and Ireland still share the country of South Africa in a surprisingly beneficial mutual harmony.

It should be mentioned that all the Lodges discussed above only admitted white men into their establishments. Prince Hall Freemasonry was brought into South Africa and established by a Bishop of the African Methodist Episcopal Church from Philadelphia. Bishop Coppin established Ethopia Lodge No. 75 and Coppin Lodge No. 76 in 1902. However, because of the institution of Apartheid, black Africans were not allowed to be Freemasons, and the Prince Hall Lodges were restricted to ‘Coloreds’ only. In South Africa, Coloreds refer not to blacks, but only to non-white and non-black people, and people of mixed blood. In 1977 the two Prince Hall lodges of South Africa, gave up their Charter from the Grand Lodge of Prince Hall Masonry in Philadelphia in order to join with and become adsorbed into the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of South Africa. A series of primary documents along with a short essay detailing this absorption can be found on-line.[9] In the late 1970’s this was a radical move that despite some opposition helped to begin breaking down the role of Apartheid in the country. On September 6th, 2007 Mr. Zolani Skithi became the first black South African to be initiated into a Masonic Lodge. The Lodge was St. Finbars Lodge, which is chartered by the Grand Lodge of Ireland.[10]

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KKK and the Southern Freemasons were one entity:

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http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False..._klux_klan.htm

Freemasonry and the Ku Klux Klan


Albert Pike: Chief Justice of KKK and Freemason Leader

Here we see the Ku Klux Klan's Masonic Origins. It was founded in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1866 by 6 Confederate officers. One of them, and the first Imperial Wizard of the KKK, was a former Confederate general and Freemason, Nathan Bedford Forrest. Albert Pike held the office of Chief Justice of the KKK while he was simultaneously Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Masonry, in the Southern Jurisdiction. Everywhere we turn nowadays, we are seeing the occult connection between New World Order organizations, especially in false religious denominations.

The KKK was known as the "Invisible Empire of the South." In 1869, General Forrest ordered the Empire to disband because of the extreme violence.

1915 was the rebirth of the KKK, just after the film "The rebirth of a Nation" where Klansmen were romantically portrayed as heroes who had preserved the moral fiber and character of America... this time another Mason, W. J. Simmons, was the architect. By the mid-1920s they controlled some states such as Indiana from the courthouse to the statehouse. Almost all of the top officials of the revived Klan were also Masons, with a total of 5 million members, most of them Masons and white Protestants, with several Senators and Governors.

By 1944 the KKK collapsed, in a storm of corruption, murder, rape, and torture... Today, there are a few thousand left, very divided... each one wants to be be a Grand Wizard of nothing!

The Demonic Ku Klux Klan

The "Ku Klux Klan," from the Greek "kuklos," ("circle" or "wheel") is, like Masonry, a "fraternal organization." This one grew out of the Civil War in America to protect and preserve the white race and ensure "voluntary separation" of the races, and even extinction of Blacks, Catholics, and Jews.

kuklux.bmp (18350 bytes)They are well known the disguised hooded Klansmen, in their white sheets, posing as ghosts of dead Confederate soldiers, with their blazing torches burning large wooden crosses in a "circle," to terrorize and kill Blacks, just for the sake of being Blacks.

... "we don't burn crosses, we light them," they claim, "and it is a religious celebration and ceremony, not an act of desecration"... they are really sick!... with a violent history, including lynching, murders, and bombings.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...t_pike-kkk.gif

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Masons recruiting via video games:

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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=878118
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blankseplocked Online Gaming Masons -OGM- is currently recruiting members
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Anasazian
Minmatar
Online Gaming Masons
Posted - 2008.09.19 22:53:00 - [1]

Online Gaming Masons -OGM- is currently recruiting members for it's corporation. We are real Mason seeking brothers who know the lost word.

If there are any REAL Masonic corporations out there we are willing to discus an alliance.

-Anasazian

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...n-9044049.html

Masonic conspiracy or MI6 recruitment tool? Internet mystery Cicada 3301 starts up again
The international puzzle that requires knowledge of steganography, Aleister Crowley and the darknet is back again, and the internet is just as confused
JAMES VINCENT Author Biography Tuesday 07 January 2014

A mysterious cryptography competition that claims to be searching for “highly intelligent individuals” has apparently started a third annual round of recruitment.

Cicada 3301 (the name given to both the scavenger hunt and the unknown organisation responsible for the puzzles) first began in January 2012, baffling participants with a series of puzzles and codes spread across the internet and various locations worldwide.

It’s been suggested that the challenge is an elaborate marketing campaign or perhaps a recruiting tool for the likes of MI6 or the CIA to find bright young hackers. Global interest in the story has heightened following recent articles including Chris Bell's for The Telegraph, but the motives – and organisers – of Cicada 3301 remain a mystery.

So far two ‘rounds’ have been played in 2012 and 2013, but no-one who has cracked the final code has reported on what they found. However, this might all be about to change with the latest competition promising would-be cryptographers that “enlightenment awaits.”

The first ever image associated with Cicada 3301 was posted to a paranormal discussion board on the website 4chan:

“Hello. We are looking for highly intelligent individuals. To find them, we have devised a test. There is a message hidden in this image. Find it, and it will lead you on the road to finding us. We look forward to meeting the few that will make it all the way through. Good luck. 3301.”

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http://spectralintelligencesolutions..._stalking.html

The term Gas-Lighting originates from the 1944 film Gaslight. In the movie, the character of Gregory Anton, played by actor Charles Boyer, attempts to drive the character Pauline, played by actress Ingrid Bergman, insane. The phrase Gas-Lighting has come to mean similar actions and behavior, as used in the film, against a victim.
"The White Glove treatment"

"The White Glove Treatment" is slang for Gang Stalking as jokingly referred to by the Masons who either participate in, or know of its usage against so-called "Enemies of Freemasonry".

[Note: The phrase "The White Glove Treatment" is not limited to Freemasonry, as members of similar groups and organizations often practice Gang Stalking.)
Ritual Gangstalking

Reportedly performed by cults and secret organizations such as Satanists, secret orders of free masons, some voodoo /obeah practitioners and Scientologists as a means of control or for punishment. "Ritual abuse" is incorporated into "ritual gangstalking" patterns in this case.

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But back to Set/Seth/Baphomet etc.

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Set /sɛt/ or Seth (/sɛθ/; also spelled Setesh, Sutekh,[1] Setekh, or Suty) is a god of the desert, storms, disorder, violence and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion.[2] In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Sēth (Σήθ). Set is not, however, a god to be ignored or avoided; he has a positive role where he is employed by Ra on his solar boat to repel the serpent of Chaos Apep.[3] Set had a vital role as a reconciled combatant.[4] He was lord of the red (desert) land where he was the balance to Horus' role as lord of the black (soil) land.[5]

In Egyptian mythology, Set is portrayed as the usurper who killed and mutilated his own brother Osiris. Osiris' wife Isis reassembled Osiris' corpse and resurrected him long enough to conceive his son and heir Horus. Horus sought revenge upon Set, and the myths describe their conflicts. The death of Osiris and the battle between Horus and Set is a popular theme in Egyptian mythology.

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Seth (Hebrew: שֵׁתֿ, Standard Šet, Tiberian Šēṯ; Arabic: شيث‎ ****h or Shiyth; "placed; appointed"), in Judaism, Christianity and Islam, was the third son of Adam and Eve and brother of Cain and Abel, who were the only other of their children mentioned by name. According to Genesis 4:25, Seth was born after the slaying of Abel by Cain, and Eve believed God had appointed him as a replacement for Abel.

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Masonry is an effing colonial religion, sorry

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http://www.dailygrail.com/blogs/fahi...ols-do-not-lie

The Kemetic Origin of Freemasonry: The Signs and Symbols Do not Lie
Posted by fahim knight at 18:06, 02 May 2010
The Kemetic Origin of Freemasonry: The Signs and Symbols Do not Lie

By Fahim A. Knight-El

The signs and symbols of ancient and modern Freemasonry are rooted in Kemet (Egypt) and the evidence is overwhelmingly obvious that Freemasonry borrowed its allegorical myths and ideological metaphors from more ancient societies that were well advanced in the philosophical mysteries. (Reference: Manly P. Hall; "The Secret Teachings of All Ages"). It all began in Cush (Abyssinia or Ethiopia) were perhaps some of the wisest Nubians toiled and where civilization originated. Thus transmitting their enlightenment in compliment with how the Nile River flows from south to north. Reference Sterling Means in his book titled, "Ethiopia and the Missing Link in African History" and John G. Jackson work titled, "Ethiopia and the Origin of Civilization" .

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendes

Mendes (Μένδης), the Greek name of the Ancient Egyptian city of Djedet, also known in Ancient Egypt as Per-Banebdjedet ("The Domain of the Ram Lord of Djedet") and Anpet, is known today as Tell El-Ruba (Arabic: تل الربع‎).

The city is located in the eastern Nile delta (30°57′30″N 31°30′57″E) and was the capital of the 16th Lower Egyptian nome of Kha, until it was replaced by Thmuis in Greco-Roman Egypt. The two cities are only several hundred meters apart. During the 29th dynasty, Mendes was also the capital of Ancient Egypt, lying on the Mendesian branch of the Nile (now silted up), about 35 km east of al-Mansurah.

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Presumably following Herodotus' description, the occultist Eliphas Levi in his Dogme et Rituel de la Haute Magie (1855) called his goat-headed conception of Baphomet the "Baphomet of Mendes", thus popularizing and perpetuating this incorrect attribution, which has given rise to a flood of spurious connections, such as "The Goat of Mendes" by the blackened death metal band Akercocke.

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Foreigners ALWAYS choose Set over Horus -- duh

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Herman te Velde dates the demonization of Set to after Egypt's conquest by several foreign nations in the Third Intermediate and Late Periods. Set, who had traditionally been the god of foreigners, thus also became associated with foreign oppressors, including the Assyrian and Persian empires.[14] It was during the time that Set was particularly vilified, and his defeat by Horus widely celebrated.

Set's negative aspects were emphasized during this period. Set was the killer of Osiris, having hacked Osiris' body into pieces and dispersed it so that he could not be resurrected. The Greeks later linked Set with Typhon because both were evil forces, storm deities, and sons of the Earth that attacked the main gods.

Nevertheless, throughout this period, in some outlying regions of Egypt Set was still regarded as the heroic chief deity.

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Seti I was portrayed as the father of Rameses II and uncle of Moses by actor Sir Cedric Hardwicke in the 1956 film The Ten Commandments

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Now, I do NOT want to offend any Jewish people, but in the Bible there are many incidences of prophets and priests warning the Jewish people against the worship of foreign idols and deities.

But using logic, I would imagine that to the Jews after they were enslaved in Egypt, Set was one of the only Egyptian Gods worth paying attention to, although they did construct a Golden Calf in the desert, which might have been a reference to Hathor.

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http://www.texemarrs.com/042012/free..._same_gods.htm

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Haupt’s The Gods of the Lodge and Marrs’ Conspiracy of the Six-Pointed Star Prove Satanic Connection of Masonic Lodge and Jews’ Religion

http://www.texemarrs.com/images/free...gods_title.jpg

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
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John 8:44

“Yes, (the Egyptian god) Osiris does live in the darkness and shadows of the Masonic lodges and temples...He was the God of Solomon and is the reason God tore the Kingdom of Israel from Solomon’s throne. Solomon died serving the God of Egypt.”
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Reginald Haupt, Jr.
The Gods of the Lodge (p. 9)

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Personally I don't think they worship Osiris, I'd go so far as to say, they worship his murderer, Set, the god of foreigners and invaders.

They control Osiris but don't love him :(
Because Osiris was supposed to be about manifesting light, not living in darkness.
Murder darkened his aspect.

http://www.texemarrs.com/images/lodge.gif

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In “attaining perfection,” the same Mason’s encyclopedia assures the Masonic candidate that he “becomes an Osiris, or incarnation of Deity.”

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Masonic Murders prior to Civil War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...80.93c.1850.29

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In 1826, William Morgan disappeared from Batavia, New York, after threatening to expose Freemasonry's secrets, causing some to claim that he had been murdered by Masons. What exactly occurred has never been conclusively proven. However, Morgan's disappearance – and the minimal punishment received by his kidnappers – sparked a series of protests against Freemasons throughout the United States, especially in New York and neighboring states. The protracted backlash led to many masons leaving the craft. The Grand Lodge of New York controlled 227 lodges in 1827, but only 41 in 1835.

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William Morgan (1774–1826?) was a resident of Batavia, New York, whose disappearance and presumed murder in 1826 ignited a powerful movement against the Freemasons, a fraternal society that had become influential in the United States. After Morgan announced his intention to publish a book exposing Freemasonry's secrets, he was arrested, allegedly kidnapped by Masons, and believed murdered.

The allegations sparked a public outcry and inspired Thurlow Weed, a New York politician, to muster discontent and found the new Anti-Masonic Party, which was also opposed to President Andrew Jackson. It ran a presidential candidate in 1832 but was nearly defunct by 1835.[1]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_animal

In ancient Egyptian art, the Set animal, or sha, is a chimerical beast, the totemic animal of the god Set. Because Set was identified with the Greek Typhon, the animal is also commonly known as the Typhonian animal or Typhonic beast. There may be some relation between the sha and the modern Egyptian cryptid known as the salawa.




http://www.guardiansofdarkness.com/G...-baphomet.html

In very late versions of the Set-Osiris myth, myths continuing well into the Roman Empire after Christ, Set was considered to have dismembered Osiris. Isis recovered all Osiris's fragments except - noteworthy - his phallus; that was eaten by a letos fish. The symbolism here is: donkey cults (at that late time, they were considered this) murder esoteric mystery cults. There was always a war within the Semite groups between the dark mother cults and the patriarchal solar father group, (see The Hebrew Goddess by Patai for extensive detail). When Mother Goddess cults try to put the mystery cults back together, they are emasculated by the FISH: fish representing Christianity!

Noteworthy also, a later Gnostic heresy of Clement of Alexandria's followers known as the Sethian heresy, claimed that Seth was an earlier incarnation of Jesus. There were mystical Essenes in the First Century AD called Ebionites, who believed that the Holy Spirit was female. Some of these became Christians and developed into the Second Century Clementine Gnostics. They believed the Virgin Mary was a vessel of this Holy Spirit. It is well known that Christianity persecuted any mother goddess cults.

The mythopoetic telling of this tale continues on in some traditions: In Mahdia (pronounced MAK-tee-ah) the story goes that the cults managed to kill the fish, get back the phallus and plant it: and out of it grew the GOAT OF MENDES! BAPHOMET (Bahu Mid, Baphe Metis) was born.

Mahdia was a place in Tunesia where the Fatimite Dynasty arose (Fatima, female line from Mohammed, was used for this dynasty). Assassins and others arose from this Dynasty. Hugh dePayens founded the Knights Templar; he was also a Master in the Order of Assassins. However, that is another subject.

Interesting synchronisity. As David Wilcock is now releasing new article about the Luciferian way of thinking.

My point of view, as long as we live in dualism/polarity we NEED both sides.
Only when we start ascending beyond dualism we are ready to release the vested emotion in one pole over the other.

All paths lead to the ONE. The more excitement the more drama.

Hi you two.

Well here's some food for thought.

Osiris was a dead body when his wife put his dick back on with Thoth's help and did it with him.
Kali is shown doing this to Vishnu, right? With her head severed.

Who on earth would follow a religion that's full of necrophilia, right? Are we Jimmy Saville here? lol!

At least if Jesus and Mary Magdalene did it, he was still alive hopefully, right?

I don't like how Osiris is pictured as the object of worship by Masons, to the point of raising the Djed in our own country (1Wtc),
whereas Jesus is mocked and shelved like any other gnostic leader.

Wtf.

And where does Knuum fit in, because although I see the goat everywhere, the values don't match -- Knuum was the "clay shaper" and good god who according to Egypt created people. They associated agriculture and herdsmen with survival.

The whole Osiris penis thing was much later iirc... Knuum was the original God of Egypt and in spite of the goatness, the closest to a Christ archetype.

In spite of the Osiris "rez", he isn't much like the Master I know.

and he didn't need any queen of the night to resurrect him, it was his Father and his own goodness and willpower that did that. If Mary preserved a child, that's another affair completely, and I don't care.

bloodline means very little to me.


p.s. spiritual Hierarchy is a feature of some "Dominion faiths", and just as wicked in the christian church as anywhere else it is depicted. I understand there are many spirits, entities, people, heroes, etc. and to rank them or honor one over another is wrong.

Choosing one god over another is kind of racist.

p.s. here is some African wisdom most people ignore:

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The Kebra Nagast (var. Kebra Negast, Ge'ez ክብረ ነገሥት, kəbrä nägäst), or The Glory of the Kings, is a 14th-century[1] account written in Ge'ez of the origins of the Solomonic line of the Emperors of Ethiopia. The text, in its existing form, is at least 700 years old and is considered by many Ethiopian Christians and Rastafarians to be an inspired and a reliable work. It contains an account of how the Queen of Sheba/Queen Makeda of Ethiopia met King Solomon and about how the Ark of the Covenant came to Ethiopia with Menelik I (Menyelek). It also discusses the conversion of the Ethiopians from the worship of the Sun, Moon and stars to that of the "Lord God of Israel". As the Ethiopianist Edward Ullendorff explained in the 1967 Schweich Lectures, "The Kebra Nagast is not merely a literary work, but it is the repository of Ethiopian national and religious feelings."[2]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/amy-mac...b_1906521.html

Why Are the Freemasons Collecting Our Children's DNA?
Posted: 09/26/2012 7:31 am

Amy MacPherson Social and Rights Advocate

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Conspiracy theorists need theorize no more. In pages from a fiction novel brought to life, the strangest twists in popular folklore have been winding through our government corridors. In this case I wouldn't blame you for being tempted to run it by Snopes.

Fabled as a secret society, Freemasons see themselves as an esoteric fraternity; an ancient brotherhood of initiates who are voted into membership for the purpose of sharing enlightenment through the use of exclusive teachings.

They are not a religious group and yet elevated status can be obtained through invitation to the various esteemed Rites and the legendary Knights Templar. That full proper title is The United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St. John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta.

It is argued they find their roots in an historical Christian militia, which once upon a time nearly bankrupted the Vatican. Despite an effort to distance themselves from politics and religion in modern times, Scandinavian branches to this day will only permit entry of fellow Christian worshippers. Women remain forbidden although there's good news for slaves and the disabled -- who may have overcome discrimination after a thousand years of human rights progression.

On the Grand Lodge of Canada website, they continue to affirm this illusive aura with statements like the following:

"Freemasonry is a fraternal association of men of good and high ideals but it is not a public association. "Private" is a more appropriate description than "secret" and as with many organizations, certain information is reserved for members only."
So why then is an exclusive group collecting our children's DNA, with support of police and the government across the USA and Canada?

You know them as MasoniChip, or perhaps you've been led to believe it was a state and provincial endeavor intended to protect your little ones. They set up fairs, forge partnerships with law enforcement and even strive to distribute their services through North American public school systems.

In Massachusetts this Freemason program was promoted by CBS News from the steps of the official State House and included their police dog, coincidentally named Mason. Reporters only failed to mention the private nod to those promoting him or that government had little to do with it.

What is MasoniChip you ask? It begins on the surface as a child identification project, in case your loved ones are ever to be horrendously abducted. Parents are familiar with at-home kits to record their kids' vital information, for protection against the greatest of all fears to be inflicted on a family. Normally height, weight, hair and eye colour are recorded, along with a set of fingerprints and hopefully a current photograph. It's just the good folks at your local Masonic Lodge saw fit to take things further.

With advances in technology, they began to offer digital fingerprints, digital imaging, digital video, dental impressions and DNA mouth swabs. This data processing is managed by their proprietary software that's designed to be compatible with local and national law enforcement. This is after all, a campaign created by police in the brotherhood regardless of its private funding.

A great distinction is made to ensure governments are nothing more than their supporters. Freemasons assert ownership of this project as an integral part of their mission statement:

"We the Freemasons are the sole "sponsor" of the Masonic Safety Identification initiatives as developed in our various Masonic Grand Lodge Jurisdictions. As such we schedule the Events and coordinate the equipment, materials and volunteers necessary to conduct events. All groups and individuals are welcome to work alongside, but they are not referred as sponsors but listed and involved as "supporters", "supporting partners", "corporate partners", "in collaboration with", or "in cooperation with."
They claim their services are superior to what a parent could accomplish at home, by recording the children's data personally and providing their own "health care professionals" to collect their DNA samples.

These are either hired hands who answer to the Freemasons or members of the fraternity whose history and credentials are protected by the organization. There is no way to guarantee what happens behind closed doors and although they claim to delete sensitive information (the Canadian website states "No information is ever stored by the MasoniChIP program"), any computer savvy person knows that clicking an "x" isn't permanent unless you format the entire system.

Parents are asked to trust an intriguing, private fraternity; to ensure that quality standards are met and family privacy is legally respected without any kind of oversight. Because Freemasons fund 100 per cent of the initiative, there is no opportunity to discuss issues regarding data ownership or how they feel about those technicalities in the privacy of their meetings.

Every Masonic Lodge may "jump on the bandwagon" and choose to run the program differently. None are managed at the national level by an exact set of principles. The only thing they share is an internet portal, where everyone claims to expunge the information that was painstakingly collected.

Let us then consider the function of a DNA sample. If a child goes missing will police swab every glass and rock they come across for a match to find the trail? In the video for Massachusetts they claimed it would help Mason pick up a scent, but in all reality the clothes a child was last wearing will provide stronger notes and this can't be the intended purpose. DNA has nothing to do with scent and its only use can be harnessed once a child has been located.

With somber scrutiny and if further tragedy struck, authorities would match remains with parental samples for definitive confirmation. It is the parents' DNA that could aid in matching the unnamed, but only accredited laboratories are permitted to conduct the process. Whether a parent or child, collecting DNA cannot occur at an open park event, run by stranger volunteers and become admissible to the national database. The FBI continually quotes the DNA Identification Act of 1994 in establishing these requirements to be included within CODIS.

It is with great sadness for grieving families that we must note the Freemason project is not supported by government DNA databases. Although the superficial identifiers are surely helpful and Freemasons contribute to charitable acts in their communities, the most controversial component of the MasoniChip undertaking is not recognized for the purpose they advertise and state to parents.

Furthermore, a simple hair sample from children is all that was needed and in the United States only five of these cases are permitted per month, per licenced agency. (Downloadable from the FBI here.)

In Canada the situation is even more colluded, as the federal government won't consent to a missing persons DNA database whatsoever. They cite privacy law and cost concerns as a barrier to its establishment; so the 50,000 families that already participated have shared their biometric markers with Freemasons for apparently no good reason. It is therefore peculiar the Masonic Grand Lodge of Canada would make bold claims to be working with Canadian law enforcement agencies to gain the trust of parents.

All in all they've registered 1.5 million children to date. The push is on to document as many possible, as keenly demonstrated by the event schedule for Ontario. From community halls to grocery stores, fairground booths, libraries and even chartered banks, the private fraternity will be on hand to collect everything about your children whether it's relevant or not.

When it comes to the little people we'd do anything to protect them, but perhaps their families might give sober second thought to what exactly they're signing in a contract with Freemasons. This DNA collection program is planned to be extended to the disabled community and seniors, but who benefits when it's inadmissible to a certified registry of any sort?

And why is the face of government through public schools or police through public events, being placed on an effort from private organizations to mislead parents? Sharing one's fingerprints and biometrics is a serious decision. For public safety we must insist that brokers of such events become transparent and regulated.

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http://henrymakow.com/freemasonry.html

Young Man Rejects Masonic Initiation

January 26, 2014

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This testimony was originally posted by "Technoir"
in the David Icke forum in May 2010 and updated in December 2010.


"He told me he could arrange for girls to come over and sleep with me through the lodge, give me free cigarettes and alcohol, get me out of any trouble I would ever have with the police, get me into any graduate program I wanted and (bear with me here but some of you are familiar with this type of stuff) teach me how to read other people's minds and levitate among many other occult techniques."

- The wealthy are pre-chosen according to their bloodlines.
- Child sacrifice part of initiation
- Most powerful Masons are actually reptilian shape shifters that drink human blood and eat human flesh.

by "Technoir"
(from April 26, 2011)



I am a Male 25 years old living in Canada.

Approximately four years ago when I reached the age of 21, I was asked to be become a Freemason, an offer which I declined for a number of reasons. Before I get into more details, I feel I should give some background information as to why I believe I was selected.

I am Canadian, and I had recently graduated from The University of Western Ontario (UWO) in London, Ontario with a degree in Economics. UWO is nicknamed The University of Wealthy Ontario and is well known for its non-stop party atmosphere. In the 1980's, Playboy Magazine named it the school with the sexiest women in North America, to give you an idea of what kind of a school it is.

My father is a multi-millionaire who made his fortune through a combination of investments in real estate and equities. My education was financed entirely by my father, but I still had a part-time job at the local daily newspaper known as The London Free Press. Even though it is a local paper, it still tightly controlled the daily newspaper market in London and the surrounding area with a circulation of approximately 150,000.

This is an important piece of information, since we all know that Masonry is prevalent even in local media. We also know that anything that is published even on that scale is heavily censored and used as a tool for the manipulation of the readership.

I had heard about Freemasonry before, and knew that they were an immensely powerful organization, but I never thought I would become one since I always considered myself a maverick-type personality, an independent thinker who didn't even join clubs at University or even support school sports teams.

THE OVERTURE

When I was 17, [in 2001] it was suggested to me that I become a Mason when I was older and I was told that Stephen Harper would be Prime Minister of Canada one day as a taste of the kind of knowledge I could have access to (and he did become Prime Minister,[in 2006] but of course someone could always say that I was just guessing or making it up after the fact. Believe me the Freemasons are very good at playing the game like that and covering their tracks while making you think long and hard about what is really going on.

Whether it was the newspaper job (rubbing shoulders with Masons on a daily basis) or the fact that I had recently graduated and was looking for work (financial vulnerability and a demonstrated willingness to accept and succeed in elite programming) for some reason they saw me as someone whom they wanted. Interestingly enough, it was the superintendent of my building who made the initial offer.

I feel I should warn readers that from this point on, the events I will describe take an extremely freaky twist, and you might be shocked that I haven't been killed or put in a coma yet after what I've been through. But, as you know, when you're simply talking to another person on a one-on-one face-to-face basis, there is no way to prove that the event actually happened.

Basically, the superintendent of my building (who had the keys to my unit by the way and could enter it at any time or let anyone else in for that matter) told me straight up that he was a Freemason, that he wanted me to become a Freemason, and that he was friends with the President of the University.

He told me he could arrange for girls to come over and sleep with me through the lodge, give me free cigarettes and alcohol, get me out of any trouble I would ever have with the police, get me into any graduate program I wanted and (bear with me here but some of you are familiar with this type of stuff) teach me how to read other people's minds and levitate among many other occult techniques.

He said there was something I would have to do first though. So, naturally being intrigued, I asked him what I would have to do. And he told me straight up, and I mean he was totally blunt with me with no beating around the bush or mincing of words, that I would have to sacrifice a child as part of the initiation.

THANKS BUT NO THANKS!

Immediately, all those offers he had made became meaningless and hollow in light of fact that I would have to live with the guilt of killing an innocent child, something I could never do.

I politely declined his offer and said although I was intrigued I could not in good conscience become a Freemason knowing what I would have to do. He then told me that it was entirely my decision and that everyone who becomes a Freemason must do so of their own free will.

I was more than a little freaked out at this point knowing that the super of my building killed children and I asked him how he could live with himself after doing something like that. He said that he had a daughter of his own that he did not have custody of and that the mother was a former stripper who was into all sorts of drugs and that he became a Freemason so he would get help from the court system to regain custody of his daughter.

He said there was nothing he wouldn't do for his daughter, even if it meant killing someone else's daughter. He gave me a DVD filled with Masonic e-books, included transcripts from a lodge meeting so I would have a greater understanding of what went on at the lodge, a Very sensitive document indeed. Unfortunately I later destroyed the DVD because I became totally freaked out over events that would occur later.

A month or so passed, and I was still living in London, Ont. and working at the newspaper. I felt that the newspaper was my "territory" and even though it was brimming with Masons I felt I had earned the right to stay at my job since it was a union job and they couldn't fire me. I was approached again however, by another co-worker, this time with even more explosive information and another offer to become a Freemason. This guy laid down some serious information that I found extremely difficult to believe. Some of what he revealed included:

orgies.jpg - The fact that everything you become in society comes down to your bloodline.
- That the most powerful Masons are actually reptilian shape shifters that drink human blood and eat human flesh.
- That I demonstrated characteristics of someone with incredible survival instincts and that I was attempting to be the alpha male at work by dominating other men and trying to possess nearly every attractive woman in the workplace, which are reptilian characteristics.
- That the Masonic initiation ritual I would go through would activate my reptilian DNA.
- That the blood drinking, flesh eating orgies that I would participate in have roots in the ancient mystery religion of the Egyptians.

He also instructed me to obtain a copy of the Kabbalah and to start studying it. He would ask me if I had obtained a copy on a later occasion and became totally enraged when I told him I had not, to the point where he appeared to shape shift a small amount himself. However, he still remained totally committed to the fact that the decision to become a Freemason was entirely up to me and had to be my free choice, that I could not be coerced.

I started to think a number of different things after this information was revealed to me. Firstly, I thought they were trying to scare me into becoming a Freemason.

Secondly, I thought they were trying to inflate my ego by telling me I was better than everybody else, that I was a "superior being" of some kind with special genetics that made me better than everybody else.

Thirdly, I came to the realization that perhaps they were testing how I would react to the information and see how strong my survival instincts were, and therefore gain some insight into the purity of my reptilian DNA.

And lastly, but most importantly, I considered the possibility that just by giving me the information they had already, it would result in a partial activation of my reptilian DNA by traumatizing me and warping my sense of reality.

MY BACKGROUND

I think I should now give you an idea of what my background is so you the reader might better understand why the Masons might have such a keen interest in me.

My father is Venetian, from Northern Italy, and my mother is Korean. My father comes from wealth on his father's side of the family. Before World War II when Japan occupied Korea, my maternal grandfather was sent to Japan by the Japanese to be educated and trained to be in a position of authority in the then occupied Korea.

During World War II he was responsible for managing the food rations for a significant portion of the Capital Seoul. I feel it is important to mention that my father is 6 feet 1 inches tall and I am 6 feet 2 inches tall. Since my father is from Northern Italy (which is close to the border with Austria) I believe there is a good possibility that my father possesses a large quantity of Nordic DNA and could possibly be descended from the Nephilim since he is quite tall and has been given the permission to obtain a large quantity of wealth.

We all know that no one becomes wealthy out of merit but is granted their wealth as a result of their bloodline. This wealth could also be attributed to the possibility that he is a distant relative of some members of the Black Nobility of Italy, but this is entirely speculative. His potential Nordic DNA could have combined with my Mother's potential Reptilian DNA, creating me, a rare type of Nordic-Reptilian hybrid that the Masons/Illuminati have a keen interest in experimenting on.

Part II

The months would pass at the newspaper, with my "friend" and I having casual conversations about how once I joined, I would be considered equal to everybody else in spite of the fact that I was of mixed race and that I would enjoy being part of a brotherhood where I would be looked after for life.

BaphometMasonic (2).jpgDuring this time I was feverishly researching the Masons, Illuminati and the Occult on the Internet and obtained a fair bit of knowledge about these topics. One topic that was particularly disturbing that I feel I should mention here (and scarred me for life) was the topic of trauma-based mind control.

A technique first used by the Egyptians and perfected in modern times, the victim is exposed to all sorts of horrific stimuli designed to create alternate personalities (or alters) within that individuals psyche that can be programmed to serve the Masons/Illuminati.

For instance, someone is thrown into a large container filled to the brim with cockroaches, centipedes, spiders, and other insects and forced to stay there for days. Or the victim watches while their own parents perform vicious illegal abortions on slave women and then are forced to consume (eat) the aborted children with their own parents. It was after reading about these scenarios that I destroyed the DVD filled with Masonic recruitment information, as you can imagine you might too.

Time passed however, and I moved home to Toronto to be with family where I got a job as a forklift operator. I was asked again to become a Freemason by a co-worker (his words were "I would prefer if you joined,") and this time I told him straight up to his face that I don't believe in sacrificing children to Satan. However, that was the last time I was asked and hopefully the last time I ever will be.


Total Mind Control Slave Link:

Aaron Russo and the Plan to Microchip the Population



"Technoir" Responds to low level Mason:

Ahem, Mr. Blue Lodge, it is you who are gullible and totally unaware of what your organization is really about and what it stands for. I would recommend you actually take the time to read some of David Icke's material before commenting further. Your rules do not apply to members of the Red Lodge, basically no rule applies to them other than sufficient secrecy and maintaining the facade for those members who are lacking the genetic characteristics to descend into the inner circle of Masonry. Consider yourself blessed that you lack sufficient reptilian DNA and aren't exposed to what really goes on at the lodge in the middle of the night.

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Master Mason lies about Origins of the Lodge:

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report...ecrets-1660682

Revealed: Senior Freemason lets out centuries-old secrets
Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 16:31 IST | Agency: The Daily Telegraph

Neil Tweedie

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This attack of Masonic glasnost comes as the Craft looks forward to its 300th birthday. It was in 1717 that, according to Mr Brown, a group of like-minded men got together in a coffee house and devised a non-sectarian, socially egalitarian forum in which men of integrity could fraternise, while avoiding the vexed issues of religion and politics. They took as their guiding metaphor the trade of stonemasonry, hence the symbols of Freemasonry - the square, compass and apron - and its three degrees of evolution, Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason.

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We know that the Grand Lodge of antiquity predates that 1700s crap.
Clearly people need to read more.

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God raises a prophet and carpenter to preach to the Masons at ATS

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread850398/pg1

The Masonry Pillars of Our Faith - The Secret in a Mirror so you can see. X Marks the Spot

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If you read this, save it. Favorite the video. This will be censored.

Do you think you are enlightened? Wait 1000 years longer and you will be. Until then, why I've come back:

I left ATS yesterday with the idea of taking the summer off. I am taking classes online. I wanted to get into my shop (Carpenter) and work for the three months of the summer. Instead, I was reading the Bible an God laid this on my heart late in the evening.

Matthew 10:27

What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.

I decided that I need to be here to continue to the end. I thought I needed some time to process, but the answer came in a moment. My eye twinkled and it was there.

When you come to church, you are welcomed and there are no secrets. This is when it hit me. The Secret of Freemasonry, which I have held for the last three years, can be revealed in a mirror. This way, I have not revealed it, yet the opposite reflection is seen. Don't be confused. I will tell you both sides. My side is with God only and what I reveal. Satan is the opposite of what you find with the Mystery Babylon. Also, the Masons can then simply reveal their own secret if they choose. They will tell you mine is wrong. We can then pick the truth that we desire. There is no paradox between in a reflection. You just need to see clearly to know which is the true and which is the opposite.

Here's your mirror.

There are two pillars of our faith. With God, the two pillars God and Christ. The pillars are revealed in Joseph. He was named after the Pillars. Ptah Hotep. Pillars of Stability, Peace and Satisfaction. In other words, you can now rest in a job well done. Some will not rest.

The two pillars represent the X Chromosome of DNA.

God allows us to naturally express to our full potential. The other side desires to speed the process and take the fruit of knowledge as a means to steal what is meant for a gift.

The twisted nature of the pillars is the same as the particle and wave that created it. God is Light and Jesus is the Son (Word / Wave).

The Christian believes that the Pillars are a gift form God.

We believe that the above must give to us below. Taking is not something we can do from God. When we try, he is patient with us. The Flaming Sword that protects the tree of life Cuts us like a double edged sword. WOW! DNA is a double edged WORD! God has humor. John 1. DNA is WORD is Programming is Wave is Light and Particle and Consciousness!!!

There are two numbers that need to be seen. 23 pairs and 46 total.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Men will mix the iron with the clay. The clay is what God used to build us. The transhuman will mix the technology with the clay. He brings the God above to the Earth below. Those from heaven to earth will come. We can count on it.

God controls our water. This means that he controls our baptism into reality. The desire of some is to take control. This is the great work of the ages. Humpty Dumpty is an egg you know. God says it's Impenetrable. So does Lewis Carroll.

We have 33 backbones. We are to overcome the snake of desire. It's God's gift.

The Word of God is not the Bible. The Bible is a mirror. The Word is woven into your DNA. God put the reflection into our world and the original into our genetics. There are 22 proteins that write your body from the amino acids. There are 22 letters in Hebrew. There are 2 pairs. That's 44 plus 2 sex chromosomes. The two become one. There are 26 letters in Greek. When Nimrod gets the tower built, there will be one language again. The two become one. 46 total letters. One is concrete and the other abstract. God comes is brought down to man. God will not allow this apart from Christ. The mark of the beast is the one who takes the iron into the clay. It will crumble.

God builds temples for his Spirit to dwell with men. The temple is your body. The Masons build temples as well. They build temples that crumble. They used the wrong stone.

Now. Take a look at the symbols. X marks the spot. X Men are what? X files are what? X is a chromosome. Monster Energy is what? Unleash the beast. We are the beast.

The video fills in the rest.

What do we choose. Is Jesus a creation of this process, or is he the fulfillment of it by example.

The only place the secret is written down is in the Bible. That's why it is on every table in the temples made by me. Jesus came to show them how it was done, but warned them to do it God's why or no way. he is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

If you know how to see it, the symbols reveal the fruit. The symbols are accurate. Our society surrounds us with the truth. Know the truth and it sets you free. God loves you enough to allow his enemy to tell you the lie so he can then tell you the truth behind their selfish lie. Jesus is real. He conquered the process 2000 years ago and the enemy has yet to keep it from crumbling. DNA is impenetrable. The Tree of Life will burn you with the fire if you try to get around it.

Now. Go back and read my threads. The key is revealed.

THE MIRROR

Give - TAKE

GOD - SATAN

JESUS - TBA

They try to tell you Jesus is on the other side and is a lie mean to deceive. Not true. Jesus came to show them how its done. If a Mason tries to tell you this is the opposite, simply look for the fruit you like to eat and want for your family--the one that brings Hope and change we can believe in. It's Good or evil. You already know.

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Paul the Apostle on plainness and honesty:

"I would rather speak five intelligible words … than ten thousand words in a tongue" (14:19)

One Mason posts about Temple of Set in a negative light, and the other Masons crawl out to defend the Satanists

Creepy huh?

They even call another poster a liar when she shares a personal story about her partner encountering the man mentioned in the article, and the magical war that occurred between the two men.




http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread329345/pg1

Lt Col Michael Aquino, the Temple of Set,organized pedo rings,mind control

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I was going to post this in another thread,Beelzebubba brought up something that I have always wanted to bring up, Lt Col Micahel Aquino.

Originally posted by Beelzebubba

But, occultic leanings of many in the military is widely known. Some of these people have even gone on to start their own religions.


en.wikipedia.org...

History

The Temple of Set was established in 1975 by Lt. Colonel of the US Army Michael Aquino and certain members of the priesthood of the Church of Satan, who left because of administrative and philosophical disagreements with its founder, and, as Aquino said, because he was disgusted at the corruption within the Church of Satan. The Temple of Set was incorporated in California that same year as a nonprofit church.

While Aquino remains an active member of the Temple of Set, he no longer holds any office within the organization. The office of High Priest is currently held by Magistra Patricia Hardy, who succeeded Aquino in 2004.

www.raven1.net...


Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, cult leader of a satanic organization called the Temple of Set. He was a High Priest while simultaneously serving in the armed forces as a military intelligence operative and psychological/propaganda warfare expert. Lt. Col. Aquino was processed out of the Army Active Reserves in 1990 after a ritual child molestation investigation.


www.larouchepub.com...


Throughout much of the 1980s, Aquino was at the center of a controversy involving the Pentagon's acquiescence to outright Satanic practices inside the military services. Aquino was also a prime suspect in a series of pedophile scandals involving the sexual abuse of hundreds of children, including the children of military personnel serving at the Presidio U.S. Army station in the San Francisco Bay Area. Furthermore, even as Aquino was being investigated by Army Criminal Investigation Division officers for involvement in the pedophile cases, he retained highest-level security clearances, and was involved in pioneering work in military psychological operations ("psy-ops").




According to an article in the Oct. 30, 1987 San Francisco Examiner, one of the victims had identified Aquino and his wife as participants in the child rape. According to the victim, the Aquinos had filmed scenes of the child being fondled by Hambright in a bathtub. The child's description of the house, which was also the headquarters of Aquino's Satanic Temple of Set, was so detailed, that police were able to obtain a search warrant. During the raid, they confiscated 38 videotapes, photo negatives, and other evidence that the home had been the hub of a pedophile ring, operating in and around U.S. military bases.


So here we can see a direct correlation between the Temple of Set, organized pedophile rings, Psi Ops, MKULTRA ,mind control,etc, the more you dig up on this guy the worse he looks.


Aquino and Vallely called for an explicitly Nietzschean form of warfare, which they dubbed "mindwar."Mindwar is the deliberate, aggressive convincing of all participants in a war that we will win that war."

For Aquino, "mindwar" is a permanent state of strategic psychological warfare against the populations of friend and foe nations alike. "In its strategic context, mindwar must reach out to friends, enemies and neutrals alike across the globe ... through the media possessed by the United States which have the capabilities to reach virtually all people on the face of the Earth. These media are, of course, the electronic media—television and radio. State of the art developments in satellite communication, video recording techniques, and laser and optical transmission of broadcasts make possible a penetration of the minds of the world


Here is his research paper

From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory

www.xeper.org...

scary stuff

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http://masonicsecrets.info/freemasonry-and-the-occult/

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Freemasonry and the Occult

by EZEKIEL on OCTOBER 2, 2010

There has been much speculation on the links between Freemasonry and the occult, including witchcraft and Satanism. It should come as little surprise that Freemasonry has provided a significant influence on the modern New Age movement and occultism. One primary influence is via the Societas Rosicruciana, which ironically promotes itself as an esoteric Chrisitan organization, opening only to Master Masons.

The Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (SRIA) was founded in between 1865 and 1867, following the admission of Robert Wentworth Little and either William James Hughan or Kenneth Mackenzie (depending on sources) into the Societas Rosicruciana in Scotia (SRIS). These two men were granted a warrant to form a Society in England, after they were rapidly advanced through the order in Scotland. Robert Wentworth Little was elected Supreme Magus of the SRIA.

The structure and grade system of the Societas Rosicruciana were derived from the 18th century German Order of the Golden and Rosy Cross (Orden des Gold und Rosenkreutz, also known as the Fraternity of the Golden and Rosy Cross), which itself was founded, in the 1750s, by Freemason and alchemist Hermann Fichtuld. Like the Societas Rosicruciana, candidates were required to be Master Masons in good standing. Alchemy was a central study for members of this society. The Societas Rosicruciana based its teachings on those described in the Fama and Confessio Fraternitas manuscripts, published in Germany in the early 17th century.

The Golden Dawn

Golden DawnIn 1888, three senior members of the SRIA founded and developed the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, a group that significantly influenced the modern occult revival of the 19th and 20th century. The Golden Dawn did not have the restrictions of the Societas Rosicruciana, as they allowed non-Freemasons, non-Christians, and women to become members. The three founders were William Robert Woodman, William Wynn Westcott, and Samuel Liddell MacGregor Mathers. Many sources suggest that Westcott was the initial driving force behind the establishment of the Golden Dawn. Other known members of the SRIA include Kenneth Mackenzie, John Yarker, Arthur Edward Waite, and Robert Felkin (the last two also being members of the Golden Dawn).

The structure of the Societas Rosicruciana and Golden Dawn are very similar. The table below outlines their grade system:

Societas Rosicruciana Golden Dawn
First Order
Introduction – Neophyte 0=0
Grade I – Zelator Zelator 1=10
Grade II – Theoricus Theoricus 2=9
Grade III – Practicus Practicus 3=8
Grade IV – Philosophus Philosophus 4=7
Second Order
Intermediate—Portal Grade
Grade V – Adeptus Minor Adeptus Minor 5=6
Grade VI – Adeptus Major Adeptus Major 6=5
Grade VII – Adeptus Exemptus Adeptus Exemptus 7=4
Third Order
Grade VIII – Magister Magister Templi 8=3
Grade IX – Magus Magus 9=2
Ipsissimus 10=1
As can be seen, the majority of titles for the grades remain the same, with the addition of Neophyte, Portal Grade, and Ipsissimus. Grade 8, Magister was renamed to Magister Templi.

The Golden Dawn teachings were derived from a vast number of occult sources, including Alchemy, Ancient Egyptian religion, Christian mysticism, Eliphas Levi, Enochian magic, Hermeticism, Kabbalah, Papus, Renaissance grimoires, Theosophy, and Theurgy.

Members of the Golden Dawn included: Allan Bennett, who introduced Buddhism to the West; Edward W. Berridge, a British homeopathic physician; Algernon Blackwood, English writer and radio broadcaster of supernatural stories; Aleister Crowley, occult writer and mountaineer; Frederick Leigh Gardner, British occultist; Evelyn Underhill, British Christian mystic; and Arthur Edward Waite, British-American occult author, and creator of the Rider-Waite Tarot deck.

Aleister Crowley

Aleister Crowley requires no introduction for people with an interest in the occult. The self-proclaimed “the wickedest man in the world” has been one of the most influencial occultists in modern times. Besides his own organizations, he has influenced modern witchcraft and Satanism. Crowley was both a member of the Golden Dawn and a Freemason (although many authorities claim he was not a member of a regular lodge). As a Freemason, Crowley was a 33° in the Scottish Rite , 3° in the Anglo-Saxon Lodge No. 343, 33° in the irregular Cerneau Scottish Rite, and 90°/95° of the Rite of Memphis/Misraim.

Crowley was initiated into the Golden Dawn on 18 November 1898 by S.L. MacGregor Mathers in a ceremony at Mark Masons Hall, London. Crowley adopted the magical name of Frater Perdurabo (Latin for “I shall endure to the end”.) Around this time, Crowley prepared two rooms in his house for the practice of magic. One room was specifically for White Magic and second for Black Magic. Allan Bennett, a member of the Golden Dawn, was Crowley’s personal tutor, and taught him the secrets of ceremonial magic and the ritual usage of drugs.

Crowley’s legacy to the occult and spiritual world is the religion of Thelema (Greek -θέλημα), a mystical cosmology that he announced in 1904 and continued to refine for the remainder of his life. He promoted this initially via founding the order A∴A∴ (Signifying Argentium Astrum [Latin], Άστρον Αργόν [Astron Argon - Greek] meaning Silver Star; and alternatively: Arcanum Arcanorum [Secret of Secrets - Latin]; אריך אנפין, [Arikh Anpin - vast countenance - Aramaic]; or English: Angel and Abyss), which he created in 1907. The main principle of Thelema is the sovereignty of Will, exemplified by the popular phrase, “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.” Crowley’s concept of will. The second principle of Thelema is “Love is the law, love under will”.

In 1912, Theodor Reuss made Crowley the Grand Master of the English-speaking section of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), known as the Mysteria Mystica Maxima. Crowley introduced the practice of male homosexual sex magick into O.T.O. as one of the highest degrees of the Order, claiming it to be the most powerful form of magic.

Wicca and Modern Witchcraft

Gerald Gardner, often considered the “Father of Wicca”, was initiated into the New Forest coven. He initiated a number of notable High Priestesses, including Doreen Valiente, Lois Bourne, Patricia Crowther and Eleanor Bone. His version of modern witchcraft became known as Gardnerian Wicca, and it combined teachings from the New Forest coven as well as Freemasonry, ceremonial magic, mediaeval grimoires, and Aleister Crowley (whom Gardner personally knew).

Gardner’s work was continued by the likes of Alex Sanders, the “King of the Witches”, whose focus was more on the ceremonial magic, deriving from Hermetic Qabalah and Enochian magic. Both Gardnerian and Alexandrian wicca have a three degree system, like that of Freemasonry, beginning with initiation.

Modern Satanism

While Satanism is diverse, and without a central authority, it is a fact that many Satanists and Satanic orders have been influenced by Aleister Crowley and the Golden Dawn. Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, incorporated the Enochian Keys (or Calls) into his Satanic Bible, without citing the source of the phonetic translations as Aleister Crowley. As with wicca and modern witchcraft, much of the ceremonial work and magical tools, employed by Satanists derives from the Golden Dawn, which, as already detailed, derives from the Societas Rosicruciana and Freemasonry.

The Temple of Set, an offshoot of the Church of Satan, founded by Michael Aquino, uses grade names for the higher degrees that are similar to those of the SRIA and Golden Dawn: Magister Templi (Fourth Degree), Magus (Fifth Degree), and Ipsissimus (Sixth Degree).

Even the British-based Satanic group, the Order of Nine Angles, who shy away from suggestions that they are influenced by more mainstream forms of occultism, have a degree sysytem similar to the SRIA and Golden Dawn: Initiation, Second Degree Initiation, External Adept, Internal Adept, Master/Mistress, Magus and Immortal.

So while Evangelical Christians and conspiracry theorists claims of Freemasonry is Satanism may be incorrect, there is very strong evidence to show that a number of Freemason, such as those involved with the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia, have been a primary influence on the modern occult revival.

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http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula11chap.shtml

Educate-Yourself
The Freedom of Knowledge, The Power of Thought ©

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The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave
CHAPTER 11 INTERNAL CONTROLS

By Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula11chap.shtml

A - TEACHING OCCULT PHILOSOPHIES

Learning plays an important part in perception. The Programmers try to get their victims to subscribe to philosophies and ideas that will make it hard for them to rebel against their controllers. This is what is termed indoctrination. The same methods of teaching that others find useful are employed. Ways of thinking are incorporated by the slave via handlers, programmers, and the cult they belong to. Everyone tries in their own way to make sense of life. This is a natural brain function, so that the human mind can understand how to deal with the future. The mind takes raw data, and then applies some type of logic, and comes to conclusions. Once accepted, these conclusions can be as hard as nails, and they will defy any attempt to change them, even in the light of new evidence. If the Programmer is smart enough, he can get an alter to logically believe anything. Once the belief is embedded, it will remain there tenaciously. In the Illuminati, ‘great” masters and adepts teach “hidden mysteries”. The slave feels the authority that emanates from this teacher with special gifts and abilities.

The slave is hardly in a position to question the teachings being given from on high. Circular reasoning, lies, and other tricks are used to convince the person that the occult world is true. For instance, “God abandoned you, therefore you need to cling to us, the only ones who would see any use in you.” (The truth is that the cult staged a crisis where their actor playing God abandoned the child to the cult’s abusiveness. The whole event was simply cult abuse--with God taking the blame.) “We are trying to fashion a better man, a man with far more capabilities than before, with better genetics. Those who oppose us, are trying to keep humankind back in the dark ages.” This is circular reasoning and outright lies. (They are not interested in helping mankind, only destroying it.) To make occult philosophies more palatable, the occult world attacks the character of anyone whose life would dispute their false claims. They also use a great deal of rationalization, where the end justifies the means. Many slaves have had to sit and listen to their masters rationalize their brutality. Within the Illuminati, ranks are achieved with much learning and ritual.

Within the Temple of Set, a member is required to read certain books. Fritz, the co-author has a list of books a Temple of Set member is asked to read, with the comments attached by the Temple of Set to each suggested title. In their suggested/required reading Category 19 entitled “The Metamind” is Metropolis by Thea von Harbou. Their comments are “An Expressionistic portrait of a negative utopia in which humans are controlled by machines.. .the basis for many electronic/audio-visual ritual techniques employed by the Church of Satan and further developed by the Temple of Set.” (p. C21-2) Another is Physical Control of the Mind: Towards a Psychocivilized Society by Jose M.R. Delgado. Their comments, “Delgado, Professor of Physiology at Yale University, is one of the most distinguished authorities in the field of Electrical/chemical Stimulation of the Brain (ESB). This book is necessarily dated, but it is so well-written that it deserves to be perused as a preface to more recent works on the subject.” (p.C-16?-2) The Psychology of Anomalous Experience by Graham Reed. Their comments, “This book addresses unusual, irregular, and puzzling experiences- deja’vu, illusions, delusions, hallucinations, etc.-in terms of the mind’s normal psychological processes of gathering, monitoring, processing, and storing information.” (ibid.)

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http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm

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Quark, Strangeness and Charm

Freemasons: The silent destroyers - deist religious cult based on the Knights Templar


" ...these people can poison every part of a person's life." Christian ex-masonic judge, 'Christopher', speaks out

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http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm#Dissidents

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The Dissidents
CHAPTER 16

One of my major sources of information was a former Grand Inspector Inquisitor Commander of the Thirty-First Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Rite who had withdrawn from Masonry in 1968 for religious reasons. As with so many other people in the labyrinthine world of Freemasonry, I was led to him by way of a series of contacts, He agreed through a third party to he interviewed by me concerning his conviction that no active Christian could in all conscience remain a Freemason.
When I met him I learned that he was a judge, and a particularly quick-tempered one. Although I had heard of him, I had hitherto known little about him.

We spent a long time talking about Masonry and religion, but after a while I began to ask him about the Ancient and Accepted Rite of the Thirty-Third Degree. He was, after all, only the fourth initiate to the Rite who had agreed to see me. He answered quickly. 'No, I dare not go into that,' he said. 'We'd better stick with religion.' It seemed a perfectly normal answer - I had received many such replies over the months of my investigation. It sounded like the usual rebuff. But I thought immediately afterwards how strange it was that he had used the words 'dare not'. Most people said, 'I'd better not', or 'I'd rather not'. I remarked on his use of the word. He said, Anyone in public life has to be cautious.'

'Cautious,' I repeated. 'That's a masonic word of recognition.'

'You've obviously delved into the ritual, so you know,' he said. 'But I mean cautious in the sense everybody understands it.'

'What must you be cautious about?'

'Mr Knight, I don't like this line of questioning. I agreed to speak to you in general terms about why my commitment to Jesus is incompatible with the masonic religion. I do not wish to be drawn into discussion of matters covered by whatever undertakings I have ... taken.'

'By undertakings, do you mean masonic oaths?'

He paused. 'Yes, I do. I prefer the word obligation to oath. It's not the same.'
I remember thinking as I turned the conversation back on to the track I wanted it to follow that it would be interesting later on to return to this question of the distinction between an obligation and an oath. I never did.

'Why do you have to be cautious, careful', I said. 'You're not a Mason any more. I've got copies of all the rituals of the 4th to 33rd degree. There is no obligation which could possibly be interpreted to forbid you from telling me what you meant when you used the word "dare" in an ordinary conversation.'
This isn't about my religious convictions, is it?'

'Many of your former masonic colleagues are very powerful people in this country. Do you think there would be some kind of reprisal if you gave away any secrets?'
'Not of the kind you write about in your book about Jack the Ripper.' He laughed. A bit hollowly, I thought.

'Well, not murder, no, I wouldn't have thought so.' I, too, laughed. I felt oddly embarrassed. 'But there is some kind of reprisal to be feared then? Something more ... subtle?'

He began to look angry. He had made a slip. 'That was a figure of sp-- I was making a joke. A very bad joke.'

'But you said-'

'I know, I know! And I do not believe for one moment that what you suggest in your book has happened in real life - then or ever.'

I could see the rattled ex-Mason automatically slipping back into the practice of a lifetime. Sometimes you shall divert a discourse, and manage it prudently for the honour of the worshipful fraternity. I would not be diverted into defending the evidence and arguments in my first book. I felt I was close to something. I pressed on.

'Leaving murder aside, can I ask you . . .' And then it hit me. 'Can I ask you, as a Christian, have you ever seen at first hand any sort of reprisals carried out by Freemasons using masonic influence against any non-Freemason or anti-Freemason?'

All at once, he seemed to relax, or to somehow collapse into a smaller man as he let all the anger go out of him. 'As a Christian . . .' He paused thoughtfully, and I noticed how very many times he blinked his eyes during this hiatus. I wondered at one point if he was praying for guidance. He drew a long, slow, deep breath. 'As a Christian, I have to tell you that I have never in my whole life witnessed or heard about a single act of hostility by a Freemason or group of Freemasons that was sanctioned by Grand Lodge or Supreme Council' He looked at me significantly as he laid stress on that qualifying clause. 'There,' he said. 'I have said nothing which betrays my obligations.'

'I have heard from quite a lot of contacts about organized action by groups of Freemasons that have resulted in the financial or social ruin of certain people,' I said.

So have I,' he said, still looking me straight in the eye as if telling me this was important. 'So have I, Mr Knight.' 'Have you any direct knowledge of such happenings?'

'Not of such happenings which had the backing of official Freemasonry.'

'But of action which was unofficial? In other words, Masons abusing the Craft for their own ends?'

'You know the answer to that, from the way I have said what I have said.'

'I have also heard about people who have "crossed" certain Masons and finished up in prison . ...'

He stopped me in mid-sentence by placing a finger on his lips.

'If I told you everything I know about Freemasonry being betrayed by its members, it would surprise even you,' he said. 'It would make your hair stand on end. I can't tell you any more.' Then, as if it was an afterthought, but I don't believe it was, he said, 'Give me your phone number. You might hear from someone in a few days.' I gave him the number. 'Who?' I said.

The finger went back to his lips and he went to fetch my coat.

'God bless,' he said as I left, and I ran pell-mell to a sandwich bar in nearby Chancery Lane to scribble down the notes on which this account of our meeting has been based.

Four days later I received a phone call from a man who told me he had seen my advertisement for people with information about Freemasonry in an old copy of the New Statesman (This advertisement had appeared for four weeks in the summer of 1981, some nine months earlier). He said he had read my Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution and would very much like to meet me. I tried, as I tried with all my callers, to get him to say something concrete on the phone, but he would not even tell me whether or not he was a Mason. I had already received a dozen or so similar calls, some of which had proved useful, some wild goose chases. But the researcher's world is the natural habitat of wild geese and red herrings, and one accepts the necessity of chasing them. Despite his unwillingness to talk - perhaps, in a way, because of it - I arranged to meet him the following Saturday in the vestibule of the Cafe Royal. From there we would go to his club. He said his name was Christopher. Whether this was his Christian name or his surname I didn't know.
When I arrived, he was sitting in the armchair to the right of the fireplace, just inside the entrance, smoking a small cigar in a holder and reading that day's Times. He was tall, more than six feet, slim and aged about fifty. Everything about him spoke of affluence, except his plain National Health Service glasses. We went to his club, which he pledged me not to name as it could be used to identify him. It turned out that Christopher was one of his three Christian names and that he was a very senior Civil Servant in Whitehall. He had contacted me, he said, not as a result of seeing the New Statesman advertisement - although he had seen it when it appeared - but at the request of my cautious Christian Judge. He asked me what I wanted to know. I said I took it that he was a Freemason. He nodded and took some papers out of his slimline briefcase. He wanted me to be in no doubt as to his bona fides.

After examining the papers I told him I was interested to know what a person might have to fear from a group of influential Freemasons if circumstances made him, for instance, a threat to them in the business world; or if he discovered they were using Masonry for corrupt purposes; or had fallen a victim of their misuse of Freemasonry and would not heed warnings not to oppose them.
'It is not difficult to ruin a man,' he said. 'And I will tell you how it is done time and again. There are more than half a million brethren under the jurisdiction of Grand Lodge.

Standards have been falling for twenty or thirty years. It is too easy to enter the Craft, so many men of dubious morals have joined. The secrecy and power attract such people, and when they come the decent leave. The numbers of people who would never have been considered for membership in the fifties are getting larger all the time. If only five per cent of Freemasons use - abuse - the Craft for selfish or corrupt ends it means there are 25,000 of them. The figure is much closer to twelve or thirteen per cent now.'

It transpired that Christopher was one of a small and unpopular group within Masonry who some time in the early seventies had decided that either they had to get out of the Brotherhood or they had to do something 'to stop the rot' which the blinkered officers of Great Queen Street refused to admit was there. His reason for talking to me was to assure me that the Brotherhood was an essentially good body of men devoted to all that was best in the British social system and which promoted brotherly love and contributed to the wellbeing of the country and to the relief of suffering. He wanted this put firmly across to the public, and his group wanted pressure brought to bear on those in positions of responsibility within the Brotherhood to put Freemasonry's house in order - to institute proper policing, to close down Lodges used for shady dealings and to root out corrupt brethren and expel them. The group - it had no name - also wanted the whole business of masonic secrecy looked into by Grand Lodge, most of them believing that secrecy was more harmful than helpful to Masonry.

Christopher explained that Masonry's nationwide organization of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of masonic contacts - police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff ('very useful in supplying copies of a man's mail'), doctors, government employee bosses of firms and nationalized industries etc., etc. dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly. When the major facts of an individual's life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice - if married he might 'retain a mistress' or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence (easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue), or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging masons network of 600,000 contacts, a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motive for joining. Even decent Masons could often be 'conned' into providing information on the basis that 'Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved'. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer. The 'good' Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The 'target' was presented as a Brother in distress by a fellow Mason, especially a fellow Lodge member, that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft.

[I discovered from other sources that this system has been long established within Masonry for the 'legitimate' purpose of bringing succour to a distressed Brother Mason or to the family of a departed Mason. It is common for details of a Freemason's debts, for instance, to be passed to his Lodge by his masonic bank manager. This 'invasion of privacy' is for no more sinister reason than for his brethren to club together and pay off his debts. This occurs most often after the death of a Mason, but by no means always. And this, apparently, is just one example of the many methods by which Freemasons obtain information about each other for genuine purposes.]

Sometimes this information gathering process - often involving a long chain of masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad - would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him.

I asked how this 'action' might be taken.

'Solicitors are very good at it,' said Christopher. 'Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and you have him.' Solicitors, I was told, are 'past masters' at causing endless delays, generating useless paperwork, ignoring instructions, running up immense bills, misleading clients into taking decisions damaging to themselves.

Masonic police can harass, arrest on false charges, and plant evidence. 'A businessman in a small community or person in public office arrested for dealing in child pornography, for indecent exposure, or for trafficking in drugs is at the end of the line,' said Christopher. 'He will never work again. Some people have committed suicide after experiences of that kind.'

Masons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Bank can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person's drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can 'find' - In reality cause - further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled Freemasons skilled in using the 'network' it will be impossible because masonic Department of Health and Social Security and Law Society officials (see pp 189-90) can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly.

'Employers, if they are Freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed (if the information is true) or consistently passed over for promotion.'

Christopher added, 'Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men. There are only two occurrences of false medical certificates issued by company doctors to ruin the chances of in individual getting a particular job which I know about. It's not a problem that need greatly worry us like the rest.'

He continued for about half an hour to list examples of the ways in which corrupt members of the Brotherhood could defeat opposition, repeating every few minutes that these kinds of circumstances involved a minority of the brethren and that most would be utterly appalled at even the suggestion that such things were happening, let alone countenance them. ' That they were happening at all reflected the deterioration of the Craft inasmuch as its entry requirements were no longer stringent enough. Those in power in Freemasons Hall knew something of what went on, but they felt defeated by it and preferred to look the other way rather than take steps to eradicate it. If Christopher and his group failed to force the issue into the open, he said, the organization would become so morally polluted that it would simply cease to exist. But he was not solely concerned with the Brotherhood. It was the victims of those who used Masonry as a source of personal power who had to be helped as well.

'Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it's at work against them,' he told me. 'Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It's . . . you see, I ... you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person's life. If they give in they go under. If they don't give in It's only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them'.

'There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.'

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CQ0A74X8rZw

Black Sabbath - TYR - The Law Maker

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Martin Short's book: 'Inside The Brotherhood'

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"Masons are reluctant to unleash the full force of law against an offending brother."

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The horizon breaks, where a figure stands
Close your eyes and pray it's a vision of god's command

CHORUS:
He's evil and mysterious, people fear his name
He's not here for deliverance, no
He's the lawmaker

He never speaks, but his tasks we're told
To seek out souls of the sinner, he'll trade for gold

CHORUS

Silver mountains won't save you from hell
The prince of darkness inside you will dwell
Oh your weakness your past
The Lawmaker comes

CHORUS

He's the Lawmaker

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"When we were in the flesh and living according to it, we were unable to serve the newness of the Spirit on account of those sins which the law itself, which was in our members, nourished in order that they might bear fruit to death.. [...]. But when Christ died for us and we died to sin along with him, we were set free by him from the law of sin in which we were held, and now we can serve the law of God in newness of Spirit and not in the dead form of the law." Origen, Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans, 3:250

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Stand firm in your freedom! (5:1-12)

Read 5:1 (NIV). This is the summary of all that Paul has argued so far. Christians have been set free by Christ, so we are to stand firm in this freedom and not revert to slavery. What is this freedom that Christ has given us? What is the slavery we should resist? The following verses answer these questions(read 5:2-5).

The slavery from which Christ has freed us is slavery to the Law—specifically, “trying to be justified by law” (5:4). This refers to trying to earn God’s acceptance by keeping his Law (avoiding sins; doing good works; observing religious rituals). This is slavery because it is doomed to defeat. God’s Law was never given to be the means of earning his acceptance; it was given to show us how far short we fall of God’s perfect standard, to show us how impossible it is to earn God’s acceptance by law-keeping.

The freedom that Christ gives us is the freedom of grace (5:4).

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CPS/DSHS corruption? CASA treasurer in Boston was a Mason:

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Herbert Lewis, Treasurer
Has served on the Board of Directors of Friends of CASA for approximately 15 years and currently is the Treasurer. He was inspired to join the organization by an acquaintance, a pediatrician who provided medical care for inner city youth. Herb joined the board and has remained actively involved with the organization since that time. He attended and worked at the National CASA Conference when it was held in Boston. He also assists children by active participation in the Masonic Youth Child Identification Program. Herb received a B.S. in Management from the Illinois Institute of Technology and a Master of Business Administration from Boston University and is an administrator at Boston University. He is a board member of several other organizations and also serves as the Treasurer of a homeowner’s association.

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Hmm. Interesting, real estate frat boy wants to chip the kids in the CASA program, wow, I would never have believed it if it wasn't on their own website.

Don't get in trouble, they'll put the Mark of the Beast on your kids...

http://www.catholic.org/internationa...y.php?id=34763

What Catholics think:

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The reasons for our teaching, expounded in teaching from many popes since the 18th century, are theological. In the first place, Freemasonry is a naturalistic religion. Its rituals and constitutions present the member as a man who is able to advance towards enlightenment through his own efforts - a good parable of this is the depictions of the trials of Tamino in Mozart's opera The Magic Flute. The Mason can earn his salvation through rites of initiation and the activities of the lodge (including charitable giving); it is thus, in a way, the perfect religion for the "self-made", middle-class professional man. It is totally at odds with the Christian vision, in which we need God's grace, through the death and resurrection of Our Lord, to grow in holiness.

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I have personal issues with many Catholic doctrines, but don't hate the people...

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the oaths required in the initiation rites require the new Mason to promise to keep secret the organisation's rituals, even though he does not at that point know what they are. These oaths are what Christian moral theologians call "vain" - they are not acceptable and cannot bind the person making them, even if they are done in the name of God. This is the problem with the oaths, not (as is sometimes claimed) the dire penalties which used to be referred to in the rituals.

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British Masons helping cover sex crimes of Catholic establishment? Sure looks like it to me...

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http://itccs.org/

The Crown of England is also named in the new ICLCJ lawsuit.

“Every Anglican clergy, like every catholic priest, must now cover up the raping of children in their church if they want to keep their job – thanks to the Queen of England” said Kevin Annett to a crowd of reporters and onlookers at the media event.

“By her September, 2010 agreement with former Pope Benedict to abide by the catholic ‘protect the rapist’ policy known as Crimen Sollicitationas, Elizabeth Windsor has formed a criminal conspiracy and committed treason against the laws of England and of Nations. That monster of a child-killing church and state must be slain, with or without the help of the United Nations.”

Kevin also announced that an arrest warrant may be issued against him soon by the Crown of England’s Privy Council office and the government of Canada. He announced that in such an event, he may be compelled to seek political asylum in the United States in order to continue the prosecution of the Vatican and Crown of England for crimes against children.

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Hi Tesla! I remember once saying something regarding Masonry, but... I hope it wasn't me who provoked you to start this thread ?! It is great, though, but I feel a bit bad.
I had something different in mind.

I wanted to post a video I am listening to, here, but it is not very gentle on the female side of the illuminati, so I am still wondering if I should post it.

I will pm it to you, so you decide.

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Hi Tesla! I remember once saying something regarding Masonry, but... I hope it wasn't me who you had in mind starting this thread ?!
I had different aspect in mind when I mentioned the knowledge.
Otherwise this thread is very interesting to read.

I wanted to post a video I am listening to, here, but it is not very gentle on the female side of the illuminati, so I am still wondering if I should post it.

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You are sweet and have never offended me that I remember, it wasn't you!

It's the person counter-reporting my posts and comment to him on his wall.

No worries! And please feel free to post anything -- we know that most males in these societies do not respect the divine feminine, so it won't be too shocking to see your video...

:)

Don't you worry!

Okay. :o

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=olZROHQCz_I

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The truth is, for me, Michael Tsarion is kind of great admirer or the divine feminine, and he states this many times.
But the other side of it is that I have the sense he is very correct in his research conclusion. I don't mean to know every aspect of everything, but it fits on so many levels, that I suddenly felt lost for words.
The really interesting part is somewhere at around 1/2 of the whole film. But the entirety of the film is priceless.

If you find the place for this is not here, tell me and I will edit the post, I haven't read everything here, so might be a mistake to include it. I am just a bit shocked right now.

thank you for posting that, I will try to watch it -- people have been trying to get me to watch his stuff for a while and I always balk at long youtube because of my connection, not because the content is bad (kind of makes me feel left out when my videos won't load, lol! it's a big part of PA to share the vids and I am behind)

Found a very interesting Google Book that claims there is an ancient Temple of Set in China, and another in South America (!) or was it Mexico...

http://books.google.com/books?id=lqc...asonry&f=false

http://bks0.books.google.com/books?i...w1j_8qj64GQawU

The Arcana of Freemasonry: A History of Masonic Symbolism
By Albert Churchward

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If you guys are familiar with the "raising of the Djed" rituals,

https://nuclearnuttery.files.wordpre.../khu.png?w=908https://nuclearnuttery.files.wordpre...9/dj.png?w=908

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“…Saturn sits on the galactic antipodes in Gemini/Taurus and at dawn the zenith of the apparent sky aligns with this point. The nadir of the sky at that moment falls on galactic center, directly beneath our feet through the earth, echoing Amnael’s “Heights of Heaven and the Depth of the Earth’s Underworld.” Also, and just at the latitude of Cairo, 30 degrees north, the galactic meridian stands straight up in the sky like a column of light or the mythical Djed pillar. This can be seen even more clearly in a 360 degree view centered on the horizon line. (See chart D. Also charts E and F show the same moment in different projections.)…”

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p.s. guys, it occurred to me that the "SETI" project has a pretty strange name, considering. I'm all for disclosure, but there's something a little weird about them choosing the name "Seti". IMO. lol I am just 'noid probably. ^_^

http://www.howstuffworks.com/seti.htm

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Are we alone in the universe, or are there intelligent beings out there with whom we could communicate? We may never know if we rely on space travel -- distances between the stars are unimaginably vast, and our most advanced ideas for space rockets, such as light propulsion, nuclear propulsion, solar sails and matter-antimatter engines, are many years away from becoming reality.

How can we detect signs of extraterrestrial (ET) life? One way is to basically eavesdrop on any radio communications coming from beyond Earth. Radio is not only a cheap way of communicating, but also a sign of a technological civilization. Humanity has been unintentionally announcing its presence since the 1930s by way of the radio waves and television broadcasts that travel from Earth into outer space everyday.

The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) is conducted by dedicated scientists everyday. In the movie "Contact", Jodie Foster's character, Ellie Arroway, searches the heavens with several large radio telescopes. When she receives a radio message from a distant star, there are profound implications for humanity.
SETI is an extremely controversial scientific endeavor. Some scientists believe that it is a complete waste of time and money, while others believe that detection of a signal from ET would forever change our view of the universe. In this article, we will examine the SETI program. We'll look at how radio telescopes work and how they are used for SETI searches, what the probabilities of detecting alien life are, what might happen if or when such a signal is detected and how you can participate in SETI yourself.

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another little clue: James Bond movies are extremely informative.

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Ok guys, I am gonna log off for now before the pig flu kills my ass.

Hex away!!! I'm open!!! lmfao

Oh, gosh. You write a lot and research a lot and it is impressive. I admit that I skipped to the bits about Set/h in the end.

Hello, I am new :)

I asked spirit about Set because I ran into him in some spirit work and also saw him in one of the videos on Youtube on ancient Egypt. I was told that the original Set is the "initiator". He isn't evil. The killing of his brother is a metaphor. It is a story about transformation. In dreams, the "brother" can be a side of our own self. This is a story of a man who is initiated into becoming aware of his higher self. His female side ("sister") brings him back to life and as a result he brings life to (and becomes) Horus. Horus symbolically being a "bird man". It is a tale of psychic initiation in my opinion.

What happened later and what people used the story - and gods - for, is a different story. But I don't think there is a reason to hate the original "Set". I also believe that some of the original "gods" were symbols of group consciousness, possibly from Sirius, that were helping earth during the early phase of Egypt, when we were still able to do good things on earth.

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This is a good post chocolate. IMO this interview should get some attention.

Tesla: if you can manage to download/steam it, it should fill in some gaps for you in your research into this subject.

Women, are a very important part of the process, and their involvement as well as importance within these orders, may be one of the most well occulted details. The divine feminine is very important to the higher levels of these groups.

Tesla I take no issue with your anger towards these groups, in fact, you have every right to be. I believe you are aware that it is not ALL members, yes, but also can see that, anyone working within these groups, knowingly or not, is contributing to control and slavery in some way(Something I personally had a long difficult time accepting also- having been raised within their programs myself- and believing much of my "work" was "good". )

Due to overwhelming compassion love and respect for humans I can respect those humans who are members of this group and not at the highest levels. Even some at the highest levels.. As they do believe and responsibly do their best to work towards what they believe is "good" for humanity. Therefor blasting all masons or members is wrong in my heart.

But.. Being against the society as a whole, is correct.

These people are not, but act as if, they are the owners of humanity and Gaia. They are not.

Tesla: with respect towards what you are trying to discover here, please pay attention to what is said in that video. The divine feminine has great importance for these people. The highest levels, just don't want you to know that :)

Now.. Back to SET. Enjoy!

I have read and read and tried to take it all in and I have to stop now, but I will add a few notes in reply.

1. DNA tests. Children are being born with 3 and 4 DNA helixes. If you want to put a TV commercial like phrase on it "Xmen is real".

2. Khnum is according to legend the bringer of life into the earth body. Not in the way of sexual acts, but as in appearing on earth like a magic trick after being an angelic alien soul. Chris Thomas mentions this from his Akashic investigations.

3. I believe that there are a lot of well meaning masons out there who sometimes end up in difficult situations when their lodge asks them to turn a blind eye or help people they don't like. I also believe that any institution of power will draw in nasty creepy crawlers who psychiatrists will most likely diagnose as psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists and these will invent nasty, hideous rituals just to please themselves. Not because they are forced by a lodge but because they enjoy it and there are no doubt lots of pedophiles out there who aren't masons and doing the same thing.

3b. I am aware of the Illuminati. I didn't mean to say say that they are all sweet little dumplings.

4. The fear factor. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't a deliberate tactic by certain groups of masons (and the spin doctors at the top) to make sure the public is terrified by the masons and their actions. Both the evil ones and the "magic" ones: "What if they can really fly?" and "What if they can really do magic?" and so forth. The more we fear them and are intimidated by them, the more we lose power to them because people will not want to risk anything by facing them.

5. The only solution is to change within. I am trying to figure out how that works.

And with that I will bow out. May you find what you are searching for.

I wanted to bring up two popular fictional books, novels written by Neil Gaiman and Stephen King.

Neil's book is called "American Gods". It deals with a modern day incarnation of Sabezius, called 'Shadow' (Sabezius is not mentioned in the book -- he is an early form of Zeus taken from models of Wotan. Early Zeus was a horse-rider). Shadow is the son of Odin (Wotan) and is doomed to follow his father's spiritual path. The title "American Gods" is very interesting, as Odin is European but his son does encounter some American entities on his spirit path.

King's book is much darker. There is no redemption. It's called "Desperation". The main character is actually the bad guy, although the reader is rooting for the families he terrorizes in the storyline. The antagonist's name is "TAK" in the novel, but he is nothing more than an incarnation of the "Desert God" Set (although Set is not mentioned in the book that I recall). There are many references to the desert, destruction, desperation, and evil entities in this book. Tak is portrayed as coming out and attacking people only after they start to attack his desert home. I.e. some miners disturb TAK's burial place, and his disembodied spirit, that has a crude form of its own, is able to "possess" people either directly/wholly, and invidually, or he has the option of letting lesser demons get at the people he wants to control via small stones called "Can Tahs" in the book.


So one novel talks about how European gods came over to America with little respect for it and are forced to reckon later with these buried/underacknowledged powers.
It's a very personal story about gods who have personalities and limitations.

The other novel deals with the ancient ancient "God of the Desert" archetype. This God has very little personality, other than meanness. He disrespects the powers that limit him. He seeks total destruction of the people who have "invaded" the desert. It's a very impersonal story about an entity unwilling to acknowledge limits and persons.

So, the books deal with two gods, who are in effect the complete opposite of each other.
Odin = light, Set = Dark
Odin = father, Set = consumer
Odin = savior/warrior/poet, Set = stranger/invader/destroyer of culture

Whether or not the Setian intelligence is worth respecting isn't something I am very interested in.

Also I do find it interesting that the comic artist and writer Mike Mignola was fascinated by Set/Anubis, and his in first comic,
it is Anubis who has eaten a Midwest town and left no remains, then transforms from a harmless dog into a giant Monster, whom Hellboy engages and defeats.

Why do all these authors have such a fixation on the God of the desert?

Also, keep in mind that when the Israelites were freed from bondage in Israel, Set was the dominant deity worshipped at that time in Egypt.

There is something very interesting and dark about all this.

Personally, since the Egyptians were prolific stargazers,
would they have compared the Setian influence of change and destruction to the Black Hole,
or was that reserved for Osiris who dies then returns?

We have so many gods and only a limited number of celestial objects, after all, so it does begin to become abstract,
even while we seek to differentiate.

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Sabezius, Odin, and Set:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabazius

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Sabazios (Ancient Greek: Σαβάζιος) is the nomadic horseman and sky father god of the Phrygians and Thracians. In Indo-European languages, such as Phrygian, the -zios element in his name derives from dyeus, the common precursor of Latin deus ('god') and Greek Zeus. Though the Greeks interpreted Phrygian Sabazios[1] with both Zeus and Dionysus,[2] representations of him, even into Roman times, show him always on horseback, as a nomadic horseman god, wielding his characteristic staff of power.

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Odin (/ˈoʊdɨn/; from Old Norse Óðinn) is a major god in most if not all branches of Germanic mythology especially in the Norse mythology branch of Germanic mythology, the Allfather of the gods, and the ruler of Asgard.[1] Homologous with the Old English "Wōden", the Old Saxon "Wôdan" and the Old High German "Wôtan",[2] the name is descended from Proto-Germanic "*Wōdanaz" or "*Wōđanaz". "Odin" is generally accepted as the modern English form of the name, although, in some cases, older forms may be used or preferred. His name is related to ōðr, meaning "fury, excitation", besides "mind", or "poetry". His role, like that of many of the Norse gods, is complex. Odin is a principal member of the Æsir (the major group of the Norse pantheon) and is associated with war, battle, victory and death, but also wisdom, Shamanism, magic, poetry, prophecy, and the hunt. Odin has many sons, the most famous of whom is the thunder god Thor.

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Set /sɛt/ or Seth (/sɛθ/; also spelled Setesh, Sutekh,[1] Setekh, or Suty) is a god of the desert, storms, disorder, violence and foreigners in ancient Egyptian religion.[2] In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Sēth (Σήθ). Set is not, however, a god to be ignored or avoided; he has a positive role where he is employed by Ra on his solar boat to repel the serpent of Chaos Apep.[3] Set had a vital role as a reconciled combatant.[4] He was lord of the red (desert) land where he was the balance to Horus' role as lord of the black (soil) land.[5]

In Egyptian mythology, Set is portrayed as the usurper who killed and mutilated his own brother Osiris. Osiris' wife Isis reassembled Osiris' corpse and resurrected him long enough to conceive his son and heir Horus. Horus sought revenge upon Set, and the myths describe their conflicts. The death of Osiris and the battle between Horus and Set is a popular theme in Egyptian mythology.

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to egypt chaos = change = evil = set

hope that clears it up a little.

Hi Tesla,
I am a big fan of polytheistic archetypes.
At a certain point I had different Egyptian ones show up.
I have been coached by someone who has worked for years with these patterns,
and takes tours to sacred spots in Egypt, does the old ceremonies, etc.

Also living in my area is, Niki Scully, who created the Anubis oracle, I have worked with the deck from time to time.
In her writings she talks about Set acting as an adversarial ally, who can help us integrate our shadow.
To me these archetypes are very positive, and benevolent.
There are manipulated layers on top of them maybe, but I have learned to trust the basic ones, and have run into various folks on the forum, as well as in town here who have encountered them as well.
Interesting stuff.

JohnF

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Hi Tesla,
I am a big fan of polytheistic archetypes.
At a certain point I had different Egyptian ones show up.
I have been coached by someone who has worked for years with these patterns,
and takes tours to sacred spots in Egypt, does the old ceremonies, etc.

Also living in my area is, Niki Scully, who created the Anubis oracle, I have worked with the deck from time to time.
In her writings she talks about Set acting as an adversarial ally, who can help us integrate our shadow.
To me these archetypes are very positive, and benevolent.
There are manipulated layers on top of them maybe, but I have learned to trust the basic ones, and have run into various folks on the forum, as well as in town here who have encountered them as well.
Interesting stuff.

JohnF

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That is really cool, actually.

BUT -- in the case of secret societies, we have many people who show up for church etc. and pretend to be one thing, for the sake of power and popularity,
then at other times they are at Black Mass, i.e. the lodge -- what happened to free trade, free society, community without strings attached?

Personally, I see very little wrong with magic on the individual level.
However where it is used to keep people uneducated, separate from each other, enforcing classism, etc.,
I feel that needs to be addressed by someone within the magickal community.


I think organized religion has given "the dark side" of magic a bad name, because of the fact that "the dark side" of magic is more consistently practiced in our country, in an organized manner.


I guess for that topic we would need people like Ted Gunderson, who had access to records and statistics that helped him to understand why and how these things take place and not just for whom and when. Any astrologer or historian can say "I think people worship XYZ gods on XYZ dates and this is how they sacrifice", vs. a policeman or someone in the occult scene might say "I've witnessed people worshipping XYZ gods on XYZ dates and this is DEFINITELY how they sacrifice."

I really respect people who claim to have seen and exposed these things.
I am not tarot bashing here, not witch bashing,
what I oppose is the Establishment and the Monolithic Conspiracy mentioned by JFK before his end,
the Powers and Principalities of the Air, the makes of This Present Darkness mentioned by St. Paul.

They are not people, really, as much as a force like water or air.
People organize and there is great unconscious power being exchanged and refined where the minds meet.

That is why so many people (like us) have problems with certain types of organized religion.

I don't like religions where ritual is "just because", i like to to be explained (expounded) like Paul said.
I like to understand why.

Also one of my witch friends told me to avoid spirits who present themselves as people.
She said only animal spirits are trustworthy.

What would have caused her to say that?

"don't talk to anyone but animal spirits if you practice astral projection".

She would NOT tell me more, no matter how I begged.
This was back around 2006.



Do you think she encountered the Setian intelligence out there, or something even scarier?
Mega Therion etc? lol

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Hi Tesla,
I am a big fan of polytheistic archetypes.
At a certain point I had different Egyptian ones show up.
I have been coached by someone who has worked for years with these patterns,
and takes tours to sacred spots in Egypt, does the old ceremonies, etc.

Also living in my area is, Niki Scully, who created the Anubis oracle, I have worked with the deck from time to time.
In her writings she talks about Set acting as an adversarial ally, who can help us integrate our shadow.
To me these archetypes are very positive, and benevolent.
There are manipulated layers on top of them maybe, but I have learned to trust the basic ones, and have run into various folks on the forum, as well as in town here who have encountered them as well.
Interesting stuff.

JohnF

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Sorry to quote twice, but have you ever had a dream where a "Dark Man" is chasing you? But never catches you?
Could that be something similar to Set? An "adversarial ally" who pushes us out of the comfort zone and into a flat ran? lol :)

I am seeing what you are saying, and on the individual level there is nothing wrong with that!

I oppose the "congregation" style stuff mostly, mainstream or otherwise. not very fond of the mind control in church (even church of satan for that matter lol)

I am new to the shadow man dark man stuff, Simon talks about that a lot.
There is another contactee in my skype group, that has gone through hell with
that type of stuff, like other people see it etc.
Your thread here is specific, but I would love to talk more about Religion/Mystery Schools
vs what I think I know personally.
Bobd and I have compared notes on our Osiris experiences, I think that there is a diffence in running into an archetype, and being told about it.
Religion lays stuff on top of them as a magic manipulation.
I will have more to say later maybe, just wanted to get that out for now.

JohnF

Set is the dark aspect which is opposed to the light (Horus) this relationship is the same as yin/yang.

Why do we say that the Sun/Son - SETs

So much of the esoteric knowledge has been purposely corrupted as to obfuscate the true teachings from the profane; while other perversions have occurred because of ignorance/misinterpretation.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watc...s#.Uw7SZvldXw8

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Osiris died and was resurrected. Odin hung on a tree for nine days, travelled to the underworld and came back with many secrets. Jesus we know about.

The echo of the first two has niggled at me for years. I put such thoughts behind me during my two years with the Borg, but now I am free to muse as I wish. (One of the things I found most restrictive was when my study conductor empasised that we must never ever read any literature from other relgions or even denominations...thought police! )

Does anyone else wonder about these similarities? At one level, some may dismiss such mythology as primitive story-telling. Others may see deep mysteries hiding a deepr truth.

I am slowly coming to the feeling that there is indeed a deep truth that cannot be contained in any one religion.

Thoughts, anyone?

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I saw what you said about Osiris, and was wondering, are Osiris and Odin the same?

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In Rome, Mithras was a sun god, and, in Persia, he was a god of the morning sun. The Roman Mithras killed the Primeval Bull, mirroring the death of a Primeval Bull in the Persian religion.

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Odin and Fenrir

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Since the time he hung in the tree, he never eats which is another way of recognizing him in his disguise. The mysterious traveler who does not eat while others do, might be the Norse god Odin himself in disguise!

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and Nimrod:

http://babylonrisingblog.com/Godvsgod3.html

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Like I said, that one chapter alone is loaded with information. It shows how Haran died before his father Terah. In fact it totally elaborates on Genesis 11:28-32, giving us a lot more details about the whole affair as to why Abram was "called out of Ur of the Chaldees" in the first place. It also helps to explain the myth of Osiris as it relates to Nimrod.

For instance, we are all familiar with the "All Seeing Eye." But few understand where this whole idea came from. At some point, either before or after Nimrod's death, it would seem that he lost an eye.

http://babylonrisingblog.com/images/AllSeeingEye.jpg

Anuki, the servant that interpretted Nimrod's dream (and possibly the author of the tales of the Anunnaki?), said that part of the dream means "nothing else but the seed of Abram will slay the king in latter days." [Jasher chapter 27 tells how Esau (Abraham's grandson) fulfills this prophecy.] Thus, I see Anuki's interpretaion as symbolic of two things:

1) Nimrod's first death in the days to come (from that time).
2) Nimrod's coming second death in the latter days - those we call the Last Days.

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:)

He is there.

I would like to share a bit about my viewpoint on all this.
Osiris and Yeshua are both death and resurrection symbols/energies,
they go through shamanic dismemberment in the stories about them.
Shamanic dismemberment is diassembling the ego, so spirit can rebuild "self" closer to "Self".
You get reborn, you reinvent yourself in accordance with the greater good of all creation.
This is a rough thing for the western mind to grasp.
In my one vivid shamanic dismemberment visualization I was lying down, and was visually seeing my face from above, and the flesh suddenly melted off my skull, and then the skull disintegrated into dust.
some might find this frightening, and fears might come up about satanic rituals etc.
For me it was a very freeing relieving experience, and for people in this forum, maybe most people would read that and say yeah, awesome.
From there my body got rebuilt and I got an experience of oneness. This was an actual guided shamanic journey that i have on cd, made by Sandra Ingerman.
So that lays out how i think of the Osiris/Jesus stories on a positive plane.

The stories in what I call altered Christianity go like this:


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That is a quick and funny look at it to keep it light.
However, mankind was less than perfect (the way we were created), so we were all damned ,and the big guy demands blood, and so he sends his son (whatever that means) to be murdered in our place, so we can be saved.
That to me does not evoke any benevolent energy into our lives or society.
So on one level we are saved, but on another Jesus was murdered because of our short comings, so we have that floating around in the back of our brains.
Then in various denominations, most of them, there are rituals where Christians drink Jesus's blood, and cannibalize him by eating bread, his flesh, more implanted guilt.

So originally the story was about taking our present selves, and putting aside the unwanted parts, then
being remade on a new level so we can live life in a more benevolent manner.
There are so many levels in reality that go into this invasion of the "sacred", helping activities etc.
Lets say the Mason's were good guys, some people (perhaps affected by non physical elements of a service to self nature), came along, and painted this other stuff over the original plans for the group.
I think this happened with the illuminati, the US, UN, etc, etc.

What I try to do is tune into the overall benevolent energy of the universe, and then look at the religious stories, history, family abuse etc, and let the good, real elements reveal themselves and then find groups and activities
that are expressing those energies, and take part in that.

Then there is the monotheistic nature of Judaism, and Christianity.
And If you look at the pantheons of Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Sumerian, Santeria, as a whole
the entire thing is basically a "monodeity", with multiple aspects, facets.

Astrology is another less anthropomorphic pantheon, explained as simply energies.
The various Gods/Goddesses often correlate directly to planets.
Horus/Mars/Aires, Hathor/Venus/Aphrodite, Ra/Zeus/Odin/Sun, just to throw a few out there.

Help me out here with Set/Typhon, what would the astrological element be?

So that was a mouthful, I hope it is not taken as dismantling of any above posts, but rather as a
way to work toward a unified theory of everything that integrates universal energies, theologies,
and human groups in general.

JohnF

I guess part of what I left out was the raising of Lucifer to a place almost equal to
God the father in western Christianity, whereas he was not as powerful originally.
Native Americans have Coyote/the trickster, and Set is very much like him, but where are the references for
Lucifer as trickster in the Christian pantheon? Loki of course is the trickster, and maybe can be thought of as directly opposed to Odin, not so sure about all that in the Norse, but the parallels are there in each cosmology.
Ok, done for now, maybe, this is a fun one!

JohnF

that is super thoughtful and interesting johnf.

i struggle with some of the things in christianity as well.
however christ himself was a wonderful example.
not to speak of the things demanded of him, for whatever reason that was.

i feel that he deserves no greater discredit than any of the others.

it was the fragility of christ's perfection that demanded his death more than anything, IMO.
people hate "different", they can smell it like blood in the water, like sharks.

they tore him apart like animals. it was neither God nor Jesus who caused the people to beat him,
torture him, etc. kill him on the cross. that was 100 percent human nature/capability, the same pain and shame people deal with even today,
at the hands of others, even here on the forum, people are capable of harm.

jesus never caused harm in any of the stories except maybe a grey area, where he "drove merchants from the temple".
I guess to the Jews of Jesus' time, getting driven out of the temple was a bit like 9/11 was for us.

he made huge waves with that particular disruption and they made a Bin Laden out of him.


I hope you can see how easy it is to hate someone who has been set up to be the bad guy.
Jesus is so easy to hate, because his sacrifice makes him seem like a "persona non grata", like a person who has only one function, to die.

remember he was a teacher, like Thoth, the instructor with the rod of guidance.
In many religions the Father-deity (god the father i guess lol) is the one who stirs up all the trouble on earth and gets the girls in trouble.

perhaps to satisfy this craze on earth, the divines cooked up a really good tale for jesus' appearance because he himself was a "monodivine", a person with many aspects that were later recorded as gospels and parables.

if only more people lived like he did, we would have 1,000,000,000,000 more saints and deities to talk about!

:)

I get horribly mad at God and I even say JFC sometimes, but I try not to knock Jesus too much :(



p.s. Satan/Lucifer is compared to Roaring Lion pacing the earth and to a Serpent Wiser than the beast of the field, and the Dragon cast into the pit, the principalities of the air, this present darkness, etc.

he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

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that is super thoughtful and interesting johnf.

i struggle with some of the things in christianity as well.
however christ himself was a wonderful example.
not to speak of the things demanded of him, for whatever reason that was.

i feel that he deserves no greater discredit than any of the others.

it was the fragility of christ's perfection that demanded his death more than anything, IMO.
people hate "different", they can smell it like blood in the water, like sharks.

they tore him apart like animals. it was neither God nor Jesus who caused the people to beat him,
torture him, etc. kill him on the cross. that was 100 percent human nature/capability, the same pain and shame people deal with even today,
at the hands of others, even here on the forum, people are capable of harm.

jesus never caused harm in any of the stories except maybe a grey area, where he "drove merchants from the temple".
I guess to the Jews of Jesus' time, getting driven out of the temple was a bit like 9/11 was for us.

he made huge waves with that particular disruption and they made a Bin Laden out of him.


I hope you can see how easy it is to hate someone who has been set up to be the bad guy.
Jesus is so easy to hate, because his sacrifice makes him seem like a "persona non grata", like a person who has only one function, to die.

remember he was a teacher, like Thoth, the instructor with the rod of guidance.
In many religions the Father-deity (god the father i guess lol) is the one who stirs up all the trouble on earth and gets the girls in trouble.

perhaps to satisfy this craze on earth, the divines cooked up a really good tale for jesus' appearance because he himself was a "monodivine", a person with many aspects that were later recorded as gospels and parables.

if only more people lived like he did, we would have 1,000,000,000,000 more saints and deities to talk about!

:)

I get horribly mad at God and I even say JFC sometimes, but I try not to knock Jesus too much :(



p.s. Satan/Lucifer is compared to Roaring Lion pacing the earth and to a Serpent Wiser than the beast of the field, and the Dragon cast into the pit, the principalities of the air, this present darkness, etc.

he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

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The thing that causes me real concern about 'Jesus Christ' is the reference made to him in in the Bible as the (Morning Star)...:confused:



The Morning Star: Jesus or "Lucifer"?

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In response to the question, "Is Jesus the 'Bright Morning Star', or is 'Lucifer'? I have always thought "Lucifer" was the devil, but now I am confused because I see the term also used of Christ?" by Dean VanDruff.


The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

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2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?

Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.
This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.

Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.

In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".

2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:

Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."
Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."

Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."

John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_morningstar.html

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Tesla, "I saw what you said about Osiris, and was wondering, are Osiris and Odin the same?"
Not necessarily the same , but lets just focus on the tree thing.
Odin is hung on a tree, it gets complicated with Osiris because he is like the tree itself.

http://www.pyramidofman.com/Osiris-Djed.htm

Moira Timm's goes into the Djed being the tree of life, and the axis of the world/universe.

http://alignment2012.com/djed.html

And she calls Osiris himself the axis of the universe. In Yoga, perhaps the Sushumna, is the same as the Djed.
So the human body has it's axis.

Consider that every idea/object/planet/person, has a central axis which when the rest of the thing/system is aligned with this central channel it is more balanced, stable, etc on the micro level.
So since the self is balance and complete in itself, it can more easily provide for it's own healthy needs(good STS), create abundance, and move onto STO, and align with larger things.

So lets look at the world as a whole, it has it's axis, and as Egyptian/Atlantis mythology talks about it is not always stable,and has wobbled in the past.

The Egyptian religion is very OCD about planetary Stabilty, alignments with the stars etc.

The next step up might be the axis of the Solar system, which would be the sun's axis extended through
the solar system.
From there we get the axis of the Galaxy, which has a center, it's heart. Then there are Island universes consisting of clusters of galaxies with an axis, then the universe, and Multiverses, etc.

I am getting tired so I will leave it to someone else to bring the whole birth canal of the universe into this
and talk about the Yoni so that this discussion is more gender balanced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoni

In theology we usually have a human figure to embody these cosmological concepts to bring it home to fit it into
a human life, and human relationships, and human behavior.
Someone often comes along and tries to forge these ideas back into a fear based control system
fixated on domination, survival, and control of property.
Often this takes a very powerful angry figure that knows what is good for us and another that wants to mislead us, kind of a good cop/bad cop team that keep us imprisoned.

JohnF

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he is also called the Deceiver, Johnf... for a reason. He deceives. like the clown in IT.

a painted smile and a horrible end.

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So we are describing an ego lying in order to dominate and own others?
Indeed that is the negative side of the trickster, adversarial ally.

The thing that causes me real concern about 'Jesus Christ' is the reference made to him in in the Bible as the (Morning Star)...:confused:



The Morning Star: Jesus or "Lucifer"?

In response to the question, "Is Jesus the 'Bright Morning Star', or is 'Lucifer'? I have always thought "Lucifer" was the devil, but now I am confused because I see the term also used of Christ?" by Dean VanDruff.


The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.

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2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.

Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?

Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit.
This should be understood as a sardonic title for the "anti-christ" or beast. He claims to be "christ", right? He claims to be Messiah, and has his moment under the sun, but comes to be brought low ultimately. Contrast the real Bright Morning Star: He lives humbly, does not boast, is not arrogant, is submissive to the Father... even unto death. Then the Father raises Him to the highest place; in the morning so to speak.

Mat 23:12 "For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted."
Jesus lives out the gospel: death first, resurrection second. Satan wants it all now, and will go down ultimately. Satan looks good at night, but goes down in flames in the morning. Jesus is in the tomb, but arises in the morning. Do you see the pattern? Who is your life most like? What are we encouraging in others, to follow Christ in the gospel, or to grab all you can now? The difference is as wide as Jesus and Satan.

In any case, "Lucifer" means "morning star", so it should not be used to describe Satan. Jesus is The Morning Star. Satan tries to look like Jesus and supplant Him sometime in the future, perhaps very near future, even claming to be Him. But let us understand the deception and that the true "Morning Star" told us this in advance through His Apostles and Prophets; and told us to "watch out".

2Th 2:3-5 (NAS) Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. Do you not remember that while I was still with you, I was telling you these things?
A few more verses on the Morning Star, our Jesus Christ:

Nu 24:17 (NIV) "I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star will come out of Jacob; a sceptre will rise out of Israel..."
Mt 2:2 (NIV) and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him."

Mt 2:7-10 (NIV) Then Herod called the Magi secretly and found out from them the exact time the star had appeared. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him." After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. When they saw the star, they were overjoyed.

Lu 1:76-79 (NIV) [Zechariah concerning John:] "And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High; for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him, to give his people the knowledge of salvation through the forgiveness of their sins, because of the tender mercy of our God, by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven to shine on those living in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the path of peace."

John 1:7-9 (NIV) He [John] came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

Isa 9:2 (NIV) The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned.

Mt 4:16 (NIV) "The people living in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of the shadow of death a light has dawned."

Isa 60:1-2 (NIV) "Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you."

John 8:12 (NIV) Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_morningstar.html[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Well this is truly the interesting part of all these things to me, and that is that the morning star is Venus.
Quetzalcoatl in the Mayan is the morning star. Hathor is the same Goddess as Venus.
All these figures can be seen as embodiments of the feminine or love principle, in patriarchial societies, they were men kings.
Now the Law of one, as well as the Hylozoic stories talk about a group of beings who graduated the 3d density
on that planet, then came to earth, and have been guiding us since then.
The Egyptian/Greek pantheon was inherited from the Atlantean pantheon, as far as I can see it is the same in all three.
These people were trying to move mankind ahead, and graduate to the next level, and there were factions in Atlantis that wanted to control and dominate.
These folks, according to the Hylozoics material, created the whole concept and theology of sin, and damnation.

And got the majority to banish these priests/priestesses, and the idea is that that is when the Demiurge itself went to the dark side, because the majority bought into the idea, again a neutral entity, used for dark purposes at certain times.
Along with this we can look at the white light (another aspect of Venus), and the fact that it was probably booby trapped, and became the means by which souls are recycled over and over, repeating the same mistakes instead of learning and moving upward again back to source. Perhaps Lucifer before the fall. the light can show the way, or it can lead one to darkness and forgetfulness indeed. We have entire threads on this, Truman Cash's being and excellent one, that reveals the hidden tricksters that implant beings for their own limited purposes.

Are any of us inherently evil, or good? Or do we all have the Christ principle, the Allness within us?
That has the potential to divide against itself and it's fellows?

JohnF

The morning star is non other then the rising sun/son...

Who rises above all in the heavens/sky; above mountains, clouds and stars...

The Son/Sun Exalted upon high is the Sun at noon...

Then the Sun/Son dies and the darkness rules; the Sun/Son Sets...

Darkness rules until the morning star once again rises in the East.

This is a daily cycle which is repeated as a yearly cycle (summer/winter)

Set would represent Saturn

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The morning star is non other then the rising sun/son...

Who rises above all in the heavens/sky; above mountains, clouds and stars...

The Son/Sun Exalted upon high is the Sun at noon...

Then the Sun/Son dies and the darkness rules; the Sun/Son Sets...

Darkness rules until the morning star once again rises in the East.

This is a daily cycle which is repeated as a yearly cycle (summer/winter)

Set would represent Saturn

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I've read in a few books that Set is represented by Sirius,
although I did wonder if the planets were also associated with the Egyptian gods.

Saturn was actually associated with Egyptian entity Heru the Bull of the Sky,
which fits closely with the Mithraic mythos of the slaying of the bull...

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For the Egyptians Saturn was known as "Heru, the Bull of the Sky" or simply as "Heru the Bull" (Parker 1978.719). The bull was seen as a symbol of royal strength, fortitude, stability, power and virility. Through this symbol stability, the established power of the kingdom, was embodied and maintained. In many respects these are all attributes which we, today, ascribe to Saturn.

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I think Saturn, to them, was the King's star, like Regulus is to the Europeans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

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Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky. With a visual apparent magnitude of −1.46, it is almost twice as bright as Canopus, the next brightest star. The name "Sirius" is derived from the Ancient Greek: Σείριος Seirios ("glowing" or "scorcher"). The star has the Bayer designation Alpha Canis Majoris (α CMa). What the naked eye perceives as a single star is actually a binary star system, consisting of a white main-sequence star of spectral type A1V, termed Sirius A, and a faint white dwarf companion of spectral type DA2, called Sirius B. The distance separating Sirius A from its companion varies between 8.2 and 31.5 AU.[18]

Sirius appears bright because of both its intrinsic luminosity and its proximity to Earth. At a distance of 2.6 parsecs (8.6 ly), as determined by the Hipparcos astrometry satellite,[5][19][20] the Sirius system is one of Earth's near neighbors; for Northern-hemisphere observers between 30 degrees and 73 degrees of latitude (including almost all of Europe and North America), it is the closest star (after the Sun) that can be seen with the naked eye. Sirius is gradually moving closer to the Solar System, so it will slightly increase in brightness over the next 60,000 years. After that time its distance will begin to recede, but it will continue to be the brightest star in the Earth's sky for the next 210,000 years.[21]

Sirius A is about twice as massive as the Sun and has an absolute visual magnitude of 1.42. It is 25 times more luminous than the Sun[7] but has a significantly lower luminosity than other bright stars such as Canopus or Rigel. The system is between 200 and 300 million years old.[7] It was originally composed of two bright bluish stars. The more massive of these, Sirius B, consumed its resources and became a red giant before shedding its outer layers and collapsing into its current state as a white dwarf around 120 million years ago.[7]

Sirius is also known colloquially as the "Dog Star", reflecting its prominence in its constellation, Canis Major (Greater Dog).[12] The heliacal rising of Sirius marked the flooding of the Nile in Ancient Egypt and the "dog days" of summer for the ancient Greeks, while to the Polynesians it marked winter and was an important star for navigation around the Pacific Ocean.

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http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/s...usgodstar.html

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Sirius, The God * Dog Star

The effect of Sirian energy and influences generated approximately 18 years ago, in 1993 / 1994 (the last cycle when Sirius A and B were closest), have created renewed interest in this most influential heavenly body. The history books and religions of the world have had much to say about the God * Dog star. This article reflects on our ancestors' beliefs and inspired insights into a great mystery ~ the mystery of the Dog Star and its influences on our little corner of the universe.

Sirius was an object of wonder and veneration to all ancient peoples throughout human history. In the ancient Vedas this star was known as the Chieftain's star; in other Hindu writings, it is referred to as Sukra, the Rain God, or Rain Star. The Dog Star is also described as "he who awakens the gods of the air, and summons them to their office of bringing the rain."

By the ancient Egyptians, Sirius was revered as the Nile Star, or Star of Isis. Its annual appearance just before dawn at the June 21 solstice, heralded the coming rise of the Nile, upon which Egyptian agriculture depended. This particular helical rising is referred to in many temple inscriptions, wherein the star is known as the Divine Sepat, identified as the soul of Isis.

For example, in the temple of Isis-Hathor at Dedendrah, Egypt, appears the inscription, "Her majesty Isis shines into the temple on New Year's Day, and she mingles her light with that of her father on the horizon." The Arabic word Al Shi'ra resembles the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian names suggesting a common origin in Sanskrit, in which the name Surya, the Sun God, simply means the "shining one."

For up to 35 days before and 35 days after our sun conjuncts the star Sirius ~ close to July 4 ~ it is hidden by the sun’s glare. The ancient Egyptians refused to bury their dead during the 70 days Sirius was hidden from view because it was believed Sirius was the doorway to the afterlife, and the doorway was thought to be closed during this yearly period.

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July 4th is important in the Sirius cycle

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/3551131_f520.jpg

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Sirius, known in ancient Egypt as Sopdet (Greek: Σῶθις = Sothis), is recorded in the earliest astronomical records. During the era of the Middle Kingdom, Egyptians based their calendar on the heliacal rising of Sirius, namely the day it becomes visible just before sunrise after moving far enough away from the glare of the Sun. This occurred just before the annual flooding of the Nile and the summer solstice,[22] after a 70-day absence from the skies.[23] The hieroglyph for Sothis features a star and a triangle. Sothis was identified with the great goddess Isis, who formed a part of a triad with her husband Osiris and their son Horus, while the 70-day period symbolised the passing of Isis and Osiris through the duat (Egyptian underworld).[23]

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I think my case becomes quite a big stronger now that I've found a July 4th reference while researching Set/Sirius :P

That the Masons knew about these things..

Check it out:

http://www.souledout.org/nightsky/fo...rthofjuly.html

Fourth of July

http://www.souledout.org/nightsky/fo...reworks4in.gif

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Holiday and Holy Day!
The Fourth of July Begins ...
Meditation ... Sunrise to Noon
The Sun Sets ...
After the Fireworks ...
Midnight Delights ~ Look Up!


Holiday and Holy Day!

The Fourth of July is linked to the brightest star in the heavens, Sirius. Every year on July 4 from our Earth's position, our Sun is in conjunction with Sirius. Esoterically this star is our Spiritual Sun and is associated with liberation. According to ancient teachings, the concept of freedom resides in human consciousness because of the influence of this star system.

In that this Principle of Freedom is closely associated with the consciousness on Sirius, it governs the expanding initiations we reach as humans in our evolution to membership in the Spiritual Kingdom. This incredible principle aligns us with spirit instead of form, and invokes unity as freedom from duality, freedom from life centered in the lower three worlds of physical incarnation. From: The Principle of Freedom and Liberation

Astrologically, a conjunction is the strongest aspect celestial bodies can have. Our Sun exactly conjoins Sirius in the sign of Cancer at 14 degrees, which occurs around July 4–7. America's Independence Day is strongly linked to the conjunction of Sirius and our Sun!

Note: Interestingly enough Canada Day, July 1, marks Canada's independence from England. Bastille Day, the French Independence Day, is July 14. And the transfer of sovereignty in Iraq occurred with a surprise handover (2 days early) on June 28, 2004.

Independence/National Days

BTW: Another fascinating note is that the Dalai Lama, His Holiness Tenzin Gyatso, was born July 6, 1935 and George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, was born July 6, 1946. Both men in their own unique way have been dedicated to increasing freedom in our world.

Annually on or near the Fourth of July the Earth and Sun are at their furthest distance from each other. This event plus the Sirius/Sun conjunction creates a significant spiritual alignment.

After the close of the Three Major Spiritual Festivals, in July, the earth’s orbit places our planet the furthest it gets from our physical sun. This astronomical event, known as earth at aphelion, occurs annually around July 3–7. The physical sun, though furthest from the earth, is now closest to, in conjunction with Sirius, our Spiritual Sun, while the planetary Hierarchy is in close alignment with the earth, responding to our invocative appeal during the recent Spiritual Festivals.

At this time a powerful relationship is set up on the galactic plane between our physical Sun and our spiritual Sun and between the Hierarchy and the earth. Energies from Sirius can now flow freely through our sun, the solar system and the Hierarchy to our earth, evoking a response in humanity and stimulating evolution. The Hierarchy steps down the potent incoming energies to assist humanity in their assimilation. From: The Galactic Planes

Dog Days
Sirius disappears in the Sun's embrace.

Aphelion Day
During the first week of July
Earth Is Farthest from the Sun.

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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...age1121289/pg1

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeAk4tjqD4

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Interesting synchronisity. As David Wilcock is now releasing new article about the Luciferian way of thinking.

My point of view, as long as we live in dualism/polarity we NEED both sides.
Only when we start ascending beyond dualism we are ready to release the vested emotion in one pole over the other.

All paths lead to the ONE. The more excitement the more drama.

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Luciferian philosophy is not Satanism and is not Christianity (roots in Zoroastrianism). It does encompass core, foundational elements of both which then shed actual "light" if you will.

Wilcock's continuous display of ignorance in this regard would be attributed to his youthful enthusiasm along with his love for the spotlight but he is terribly misleading.

Mithras is a Persian sun god.

As a side note: I find it interesting that the Elves in Tolkien's story; reference to Gandalf as Mithrandir...

It would serve the well to view animal references such as the bull to be astrological in nature; the bull representing Taurus.

In the time of the Egyptian's the sun rose into Taurus during the vernal equinoxes.

Baphomet is a Templar creation that represents the unseen force often refered to as aether.

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Posted by 13th Warrior

Mithras is a Persian sun god.

As a side note: I find it interesting that the Elves in Tolkien's story; reference to Gandalf as Mithrandir...

It would serve the well to view animal references such as the bull to be astrological in nature; the bull representing Taurus.

In the time of the Egyptian's the sun rose into Taurus during the vernal equinoxes.

Baphomet is a Templar creation that represents the unseen force often refered to as aether.

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Sources please :)

Lots of people come in here and just "tell me like it is" withOUT sources.

"The Secret Teachings of All Ages"

Manly Palmer Hall

Wikipedia has a TON (not all of it but some of it) of esoteric/historical/mythical/religious articles.

I love those more than probably any other set of articles on their site.
It's harder for trolls and paid shills to mess those up than ones about science and conspiracy.

The only truth people will leave alone is religion.
The rest it seems like they try to destroy ASAP.

It's so weird/backward!!!

Anyhow thank you re: Mithras, I knew he was a Persian Sun God but in light of the boat routes etc. in the past,
these religions got a lot of mileage and were well known/spread over wide areas quickly.

There is a sacred bull in many mythologies, from Persia to Minoa to Egypt! and farther. :)

There is usually someone associated with darkness/chaos, like Apep and Set. Some have counterparts, some not.
Like Marduk and Tiamat, etc. Humanity striving against nature and chaos.

In the founding days, the Pangaea days :)

Way back when, as our grandpas would say.

p.s. any thoughts on the Twins (Dioscuri) and Cernunnos/Pan?
They were also pretty well known-far and wide.
waaaaay back when, lol :)

Off the top of my head; the twins would be Gemini.

Cernunnos is the horned man/forest god of the Celts (Druid).

If you study this stuff with this in mind; that these teaching are based upon mans observation of nature/cycles as the primary way of understanding the creator (God).

"To know/understand God is to study his/her creation"

Also, note the axiom "as above so below" - man on Earth is represented by the "great man" in the heavens (12 signs of the zodiac)

On-line copy:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/index.htm

Get comfy and put on your reading glasses there's some 750 pages to read...

Found some really interesting stuff from Wikipedia today.

I googled Nubian Gods because of some funny comment on "Orange is the New Black", when Tasty talks about wishing she could time travel and pick up a Nubian boyfriend from the past. It made me think a bit and wonder if the Nubians had any connection to ancient Set worship or were carrying some earlier tradition related to the worship of Set.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...px-Set.svg.png

This isn't the first thing I found, but it's a pop culture reference now that most of you will immediately recognize.

While I was trying to determine a date when Set worship first became a defined religion, I stumbled across a character in Wikipedia called "King Scorpion".
He apparently carried a mace bearing the first and earlier known depiction of what we earlier referred to as the "Set Animal", which is what I believe to be kind of a primitive Blackface depiction of a foreign race (to the south!) by the earlier Egyptians.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...korpion_II.png

The Scorpion King was a real person, however, and he was one of the first known champions of Set... except in the film, the Scorpion King is a follower of Anubis, right? @@
Most people would notice a similarity between the words "Nubia" and "Anubis". That's all some historians have in many situations -- fragments of names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Scorpion

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The only pictorial evidence of his existence is the so-called Scorpion Macehead, which was found in the Main deposit by archeologists James E. Quibell and Frederick W. Green in a temple at Nekhen (Hierakonpolis) during the dig season of 1897–98.[8] It is currently on display at the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford. The stratigraphy of this macehead was lost due to the methods of its excavators, but its style seems to date it to the very end of the Predynastic Period.[9]

The Scorpion Macehead depicts a single, large figure wearing the White Crown of Upper Egypt. He holds a hoe, which has been interpreted as a ritual either involving the pharaoh ceremonially cutting the first furrow in the fields, or opening the dikes to flood them. The use and placement of the iconography is similar to the depiction of the pharaoh Narmer on the obverse side of the Narmer Palette. The king is preceded by servants, the first in row seems to throw seeds from a basket into the freshly hacked ground. A second servant (his depiction is partially damaged) wears a huge bundle of grain sheafs, which strengthens the interpretation of a seed sowing ceremony, possibly connected to the Sed festival or a founding ceremony. Maybe Scorpion II was the founder of Nekhen or Buto, which would explain why the macehead was found in Hierakonpolis. Above the servants a row of standard bearers precedes the king. They carry the same standards as seen on the Narmer palette. Below the royal servants a road and a landscape with peoples and houses is preserved.[10][11]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sed_festival

The Sed festival (ḥb-sd, conventional pronunciation /sɛd/; also known as Heb Sed or Feast of the Tail) was an ancient Egyptian ceremony that celebrated the continued rule of a pharaoh. The name is taken from the name of an Egyptian wolf god, one of whose names was Wepwawet or Sed.[1]

The less-formal feast name, the Feast of the Tail, is derived from the name of the animal's tail that typically was attached to the back of the pharaoh's garment in the early periods of Egyptian history. This tail might have been the vestige of a previous ceremonial robe made out of a complete animal skin.[2]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqada

Naqada is a town on the west bank of the Nile in the Egyptian governorate of Qena. It was known in Ancient Egypt as Nbwt and in classical antiquity as Ombos /ˈɒmˌbɒs/. Its name derives from ancient Egyptian nbw, meaning gold, on account of the proximity of gold mines in the Eastern Desert.

Naqada comprises some villages such as Tukh, Khatara, Danfiq and Zawayda. It stands near the site of a necropolis from the prehistoric, pre-dynastic period around 4400–3000 BC. Naqada has given its name to the widespread Naqada culture that existed at the time, here, and at other sites including el Badari, Gerzeh and Nekhen (Hierakonopolis). The large quantity of remains from Naqada have enabled the dating of the entire culture, throughout Egypt and environs.
Sickle made of flint, Egypt, Naqada period, end of the fourth millennium BC, Dagon Museum, Haifa

The town was the centre of the cult of Set, and large tombs were built there around c. 3500 BC.[1]

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Dedun of Nubia

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedun

Dedun (or Dedwen) was a Nubian god worshipped during ancient times in that part of Africa and attested as early as 2400 BC. There is much uncertainty about his original nature, especially since he was depicted as a lion, a role which usually was assigned to the son of another deity. Nothing is known of the earlier Nubian mythology from which this deity arose, however. The earliest known information in Egyptian writings about Dedun indicates that he already had become a god of incense by the time of the writings. Since at this historical point, incense was an extremely expensive luxury commodity and Nubia was the source of much of it, he was quite an important deity. The wealth that the trade in incense delivered to Nubia led to his being identified by them as the god of prosperity, and of wealth in particular.

He is said to have been associated with a fire that threatened to destroy the other deities, however, leading many Nubiologists to speculate that there may have been a great fire at a shared complex of temples to different deities, that started in a temple of Dedun, although there are no candidate events known for this.

Although mentioned in the pyramid texts of Ancient Egypt as being a Nubian deity,[1] there is no evidence that Dedun was worshipped by the Egyptians, nor that he was worshipped in any location north of Swenet (contemporary Aswan), which was considered the most southerly city of Ancient Egypt. Nevertheless, in the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, during the Egyptian rule over Kush, Dedun was said by the Egyptians to be the protector of deceased Nubian rulers and their god of incense, thereby associated with funerary rites.

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Super interesting stuff right? lol :)

p.s. Nubians sold incense and Set (at least Dedwen!) became their god of commerce. the commerce soon likely threatened Egypt's wealth, and the Egyptians put them down like dogs, relegated the status of "outsider/foreigner" to blacks and jews, and everything changed.

it's also interesting to note that during the exodus of the jews from egypt, they followed God in the form of both a cloud (by day) and a pillar of fire (by night), which incidentally is what incense does.

so you tell me, who did the jewish people follow out of egypt? it's creepy cool and mysterious.

(also some of my tower dreams involved smoke presumably from incense and it was not a good dream. it was scary!)



p.p.s. also the lion on King Scorpion's belt, could be a reference to the Nubian Dedwen lion or Set animal. So if in Nubia Set was a Lion, did that influence Israel's adoption of the Lion as its symbol of deliverance?

the Lion of the Tribe of Judah... :cool:

http://nation.foxnews.com/sites/nati...GodWeTrust.jpg

makes a LOT MORE SENSE NOW :twitch:

http://www.lifeatwalsh.com/wp-conten...rt-257x300.png